'Crop circle' draws crowd, officials refute UFO rumors in Indonesia

it makes me wonder. i saw this pattern in my 3rd eye last night.

also with the info that Indonesia is sinking

That is my favorite part about crop circles, there's no denying that they are there. How they are made me never be solved, but the fact they exist is not open for debate.

Ghey.

My point I was gettting at is that an extraterestrrial craft would most certianly leave behind trace elemental signatures which wouldd add credibility and be easy for researchers to find.

For example, many people speculate that if extraterrestrial craft exist, then they likley operate via anti-gravity, advanced elctrodynamics, subatomic nuclear, etc. With this being the case, any idiot with even basic detection equipment and observation skills could formuate that it was not the work of a truck load of drunken star wars geeks. See my point?

Guess I just don't think it is being caused by any of the above.
The alien explanation just don't cut it, why would they need to be so coy? Besides, the more I see about aliens on MSM, the less I am inclined to think there is much truth behind the hysteria
Guys with boards on their feet account for many, but the amateur ones are so easy to spot its not even funny. Even the well-planned ones done for corporate Logos and such have a whole different formation pattern from the " valid" crop circles.
I got a feeling this is one of those hyper dimensional episodes that we're not going to truly understand until the veil has come down and we can see the bigger picture.
Until then, I still think they're worthy of our study because they are showing us the underlying patterns that hold the whole illusion together.

Im interested in what you all think of the "alien face" crop circle that was left back in 2002, surely those of you interested in the topic will know what I am talking about.

[link to www.cropcircleresearch.com]

This seems quite complex for a human to do, overnight, in the dark. On top of that the circle appears as a 3D image, which would make this a vastly more difficult task to accomplish for a human. Although unlikely in my mind, I cannot dismiss that its certain a human did not make this.

There are also some other factors from other various crop circles I find to be quite interesting...

"One of the most astounding features of the crop circles is the extremely precise accuracy of the designs. This suggests that the circles conform to complex mathematical laws (Thomas 23). This evidence seems to make it impossible for these circle to have been tramped out in the dark. The crop circles sometimes have lines so thin that not even a child can walk through them without damaging the surrounding crop (Howe 44; Silva)."

Howe, Linda Moulton. Glimpses of Other Realities. Jaimson, Pennsylvania: LMH Productions, 1998.
Thomas, Andy. A complete Guide to the Crop Circle Mystery and why it is Not a Hoax. East Sussex: S.B. Publications, 1998.

If that's true, it would make it yet that more difficult for a human to make these. I'm not saying a human didn't make them, I'm also not saying I believe a human did. Crop circles have photo evidence spanning back to at least 1937, and even some of those I wouldn't consider easy to replicate. I'm also not trying to imply that I believe every crop circle to be man-made, there are just those few that stick out to me here and there.

It always leads me to the same two questions really.. the same ones I ask myself when I saw this post today of this most recent circle. Two questions I will refuse to ask anyone but my own mind, for my mind is the only one in which that question matters. For when it comes to matters that cannot be dis proven or proven, it is up to your own mind to make the final choice.

I could not agree more. I am all for rigirious study of any major scientific anomoly that mankind uncovers. I just try to ground my thinking on the rational side and I demmand that work be conducted using the scientific method of inquiry.

I do not berate the psuedoscince and frindge science folks because I think their heart is in the right place, their methodology is just flawed. Until they can get over the predisposition of using negative evidence and reling on the purley anecdotal and unproveable cliams, the whole of academia will continue to ignore them.

Dumbass eh, looks like someone is very gullible, I could make a video like this one very easy, it proves absolutely nothing, get some real proof of these being made and I will believe it shill. I do not necessarily believe it was created by et's nor do I disbelieve it was created by humans but not in the manner which they claim..Pure speculation but possibly helicopters with some type of laser or other technology, or satellite.

Well, I've read that higher levels of radiation have indeed been detected in many crop circles throughout the years...

[link to www.thestar.com]

[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]

Right on!

Lucy pringle (.com?) photographs crop circles in the UK - her site is loaded with great pics of them...you can see that the complexity of them and the degree of accuracy needed to create such a thing physically would take alot more than a bunch of beered-up students larking around during the short summer nights.

IMHO it IS possible for humans to create these - but it would take a lot lot longer to mark out aswell as execute than the few hours of night we get during the summertime. Even then, they would not be as 'perfect' in form as alot of them are.

Interesting it's in a rice field in Indonesia...this time of yr...hmmm!!

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look how happy they look to get a crop circle

Of course humans make some of these, but that does not immediately mean that they make them all!

Either case, to me crop circles (cc's) are the best "mind game" on Earth, simply because both the cc makers and their methods of making them are still mostly anonymous... :)

This, of course, encourages speculation since it messes up the mind of most people...

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Indonesia's space agency..... rofl

Absolutely neo, i believe 99% of them are genuine mysteries :-)

I heard one theory - it might have been on lucy pringles site - that each stalk is electrically 'shocked' causing it to bend over. I don't recall the sceince details but this theory concluded that the shock was coming FROM the earth instead of above.
My mind wondered on that thought... all the symbology in the circles...specifically sacred geometry...consciousness of terra ...communicating...reminding us who we are...lol :-)
Hollow

(sorry - my last post fucked up)

hollow earth theories came to the forefront of mymind when reading the electrical 'from earth' energy creating the circles too.

I love a good mystery!

Totally faked. The grass isn't even laying down all the way. It's been stomped down by boars and ropes. The sun comes out and it begins to rise again because the nodes have not been exploaded like in a real crop circle. It's a fake.

More smoke and mirrors.

It's been stomped down by boards and ropes.

Yeap, not only are most of them cc's "genuine" mysteries but, more importantly, they mess-up most people's mind program...and that is because most still cannot grasp the symbiotic relationship between man and machine... :)

..and, therefore, the true "nature" of man... :)

+1 (Neo)

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This site has a diagram of the crop circle.
[link to www.x-cosmos.it]

Look Coward, most forms of reality (code in execution), specially common reality (society) and group reality (religions, cults, etc), are indeed based on "smoke and mirrors"...not even mentioning virtual reality...

Well, a lot of people have done 'scientific' test on these sights, including soil sample, microscopic analysis of the expanded nodes (and replicated this effect using microwaves) and even have done mathematical studies of the patterns and sequence of appearances. Still mainstream ignores the phenomenon because it tags it as 'fringe.'

Well, the diagram looks much better than the actual cc in Indonesia, so I guess that virtual reality is a lot more "realistic"...

Well that is simply because "mainstream", aka common reality (society) is pretty much all based in smoke and mirrors...

In other words, not much different than most forms of group realities like religions, cults, gangs, etc, etc... :)

Either case, since most cc makers remain anonymous this phenomena must stay in the fringe almost by definition.

Which is precisely why I find them so intriguing.

Would love to walk inside a formation someday, unfortunately they are few and far between here in the States, despite the Mel Gibson travesty movie on the subject.

But since I have a theory they are connected to certain forms of terrestrial energy running through aquifers, I'd sure like to see if it makes me 'feel' any different -- many people say it does have a definite effect.
Which is why this circle in a rice paddy is double intersting, it was made in a liquid environment, very different forces at work in that medium...hmmm...