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Water now boils at 176 degrees! Doom!

 
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I was making dinner and thought of this thread. I was making peas so figured what the hey. I have a Hamilton Beach thermometer. It started boiling at about 195 degrees. Then I moved the thermometer over to the part the was boiling and it went up to about 203 degrees. I'd have to do it again, but it is weird to watch it happen. I am 680 feet elevation in Ohio.
 Quoting: Mother Mary


The thermometer will have to touch the bottom of the pot, but to get a true reading of the boiling point, a body of water should be heated in an oven so as to be 100% accurate...and the thermometer must be completely submerged for the duration...
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT

I remember that set of laboratory experiments from Physics 11 at WVU.

Frustrating. You'd be surprised the things that can cause inaccurate measurements. Placement of the thermometer. Geometry of the heat source/insulating material. Type of thermometer. Sample quality.
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


Exactly.
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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No, if you are taking this seriously, which I haven't so far you must use an oven...if you heat from the bottom only on a stove you will have fluctuating temperatures.
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT


Makes sense. That would insure the uniformity of the thermometer's and the water's temperature throughout their shared environment. Problem is we don't have ovens so we can view such an event.
 Quoting: George B



gasp



How can you have no oven? Are you a cave person?
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT

Not one inwhich I can read the thermometer and see the water boil. . . and I doubt that you do either.


Sure I do. I have oven safe glass cookware and an oven with a glass window in the door and a light inside...I use it all the time to control what I cook without having to open the door...

If you can great, try it . . . I can't read the temperature gage and see the bubbles when they first appear.
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I love such threads, I really do.
 Quoting: 9ii


Damn dude, need some lube?
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

Boil some water. It now boils at 176 degrees.

Major doom.

Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


I'm going to try this as well. If this is true, then it does mean that the atmospheric pressure has reduced, because of the weakening of the magnetic field.
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No, if you are taking this seriously, which I haven't so far you must use an oven...if you heat from the bottom only on a stove you will have fluctuating temperatures.
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT


Makes sense. That would insure the uniformity of the thermometer's and the water's temperature throughout their shared environment. Problem is we don't have ovens so we can view such an event.
 Quoting: George B



gasp



How can you have no oven? Are you a cave person?
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT

Not one inwhich I can read the thermometer and see the water boil. . . and I doubt that you do either.
 Quoting: George B


Sure I do. I have oven safe glass cookware and an oven with a glass window in the door and a light inside...I use it all the time to control what I cook without having to open the door...

If you can great, try it . . . I can't read the temperature gage and see the bubbles when they first appear.


You realize that the "self clean" setting on the stove is only to help break up the stuff right? You still need to scrub down the thing to really clean it...
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

Boil some water. It now boils at 176 degrees.

Major doom.

Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


I'm going to try this as well. If this is true, then it does mean that the atmospheric pressure has reduced, because of the weakening of the magnetic field.
 Quoting: Watchman5992


You didn't read my soda straw theory did you?
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

:Brieffromnativea:
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The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

Boil some water. It now boils at 176 degrees.

Major doom.

Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


I'm going to try this as well. If this is true, then it does mean that the atmospheric pressure has reduced, because of the weakening of the magnetic field.
 Quoting: Watchman5992

Atmospheric pressure is a product of the relative weight of the atmosphere at a given altitude . . . don't think the magnetic field has any direct effect.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

Boil some water. It now boils at 176 degrees.

Major doom.

Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


I'm going to try this as well. If this is true, then it does mean that the atmospheric pressure has reduced, because of the weakening of the magnetic field.
 Quoting: Watchman5992


You didn't read my soda straw theory did you?
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT


Last Edited by George B on 01/25/2011 07:16 PM
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

Boil some water. It now boils at 176 degrees.

Major doom.

Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


I'm going to try this as well. If this is true, then it does mean that the atmospheric pressure has reduced, because of the weakening of the magnetic field.
 Quoting: Watchman5992


You didn't read my soda straw theory did you?
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT

 Quoting: George B


Yes.

But think about the soda straw...How does it work?
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

:Brieffromnativea:
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Ouch! Are you making fun of my house cleaning?
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ohyeah


Now stop editing your shit! LOL
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

:Brieffromnativea:
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I used this thermometer [link to www.amazon.com]

The water boiled at 176.

Then I thought why waste the water? I should boil an egg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


That is just a *picture* of a thermometer.

To measure temperature you need a real one. 1rof1


But seriously........

Did you have it calibrated?

Did you measure the exact same thing last year with the same thermometer and record the results?

How many times did you repeat the experiment?
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Sorry, I responded to the wrong post . . . attempted to make it make sense but failed.
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The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


I'm going to try this as well. If this is true, then it does mean that the atmospheric pressure has reduced, because of the weakening of the magnetic field.
 Quoting: Watchman5992


Why don't you just use a barometer dumbass.
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I know...but for a soda straw to work getting the liquid to the mouth, the person removes atmospheric pressure from the inside of the tube and relies on the pressure to push the liquid up the straw...

I don't suck on anything, so have you experienced having to suck harder than usual to get the liquid in your mouth? Due to the theorized lack of atmospheric pressure?

Last Edited by BRIEF AND TO THE POINT on 01/25/2011 07:27 PM
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

:Brieffromnativea:
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I used this thermometer [link to www.amazon.com]

The water boiled at 176.

Then I thought why waste the water? I should boil an egg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


That is just a *picture* of a thermometer.

To measure temperature you need a real one. 1rof1


But seriously........

Did you have it calibrated?

Did you measure the exact same thing last year with the same thermometer and record the results?

How many times did you repeat the experiment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214987

Crap no wonder the Chinese are winning! We can't even make thermometers that have accuracy and precision within 8%.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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OP WATER WILL ALWAYS BOIL AT 100 DEGREE
THE PROBLEM IS UR TERMOMETER
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well out of curiosity, I went to this website and entered my barometer reading of 30.2 and altitude of about 5600 feet. and it said it would boil at 212.465. I then boiled some water and used my candy thermometer, just an orginary glass one, and it said 213. close enough considering.
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You actually boiled water to prove you're not a boiltard?
amazing lmao
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No I actually boiled water to test what OP started the thread over plus other discussions. I found out my water boiled at the predicted temperature today under the current pressure in Denver Co, and it all worked out. I posted the link of the site I used to compute what it would be expected to boil considering the current atmospheric temperature, and it came out really close to that predicted, so I considered there was no doom.

When you quote my post you did not include the website I found. [link to www.csgnetwork.com]
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I know...but for a soda straw to work getting the liquid to the mouth, the person removes atmospheric pressure from the inside of the tube and relies on the pressure to push the liquid up the straw...

I don't suck on anything, so have you experienced having to suck harder than usual to get the liquid in your mouth? Due to the theorized lack of atmospheric pressure?

Why ask me . . . I don't think the pressure has changed . . . I just think we are having a great time seeing various examples of inadequate scientific experiments being done by the average citizen . . . this is great fun!

Last Edited by George B on 01/25/2011 07:33 PM
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well I think it turned out to be an interesting thread minus of course topics like boiling a cat. Started a nice discussion about effects of atmospheric pressure and other topics. I can say from experience since I am an expert candy maker, that stuff that has sugar in it, (ie used in making candy) does tend to boil considerably sooner than water. As to salt etc, I really don't know on that, but a mixture of sugar, with milk cream and the like definitely has a boiling point less than water. I observed this often.
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I used this thermometer [link to www.amazon.com]

The water boiled at 176.

Then I thought why waste the water? I should boil an egg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


That is just a *picture* of a thermometer.

To measure temperature you need a real one. 1rof1


But seriously........

Did you have it calibrated?

Did you measure the exact same thing last year with the same thermometer and record the results?

How many times did you repeat the experiment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214987

Crap no wonder the Chinese are winning! We can't even make thermometers that have accuracy and precision within 8%.
 Quoting: George B


The thermometers were probably made in China ... I don't think the equipment is the problem sadly.....

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I used this thermometer [link to www.amazon.com]

The water boiled at 176.

Then I thought why waste the water? I should boil an egg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


That is just a *picture* of a thermometer.

To measure temperature you need a real one. 1rof1


But seriously........

Did you have it calibrated?

Did you measure the exact same thing last year with the same thermometer and record the results?

How many times did you repeat the experiment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214987

Crap no wonder the Chinese are winning! We can't even make thermometers that have accuracy and precision within 8%.
 Quoting: George B


The thermometers were probably made in China ... I don't think the equipment is the problem sadly..... Yes but paid good money for poor quality!
 Quoting: AliceInTheRabbitHole

Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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That is just a *picture* of a thermometer.

To measure temperature you need a real one. 1rof1


But seriously........

Did you have it calibrated?

Did you measure the exact same thing last year with the same thermometer and record the results?

How many times did you repeat the experiment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214987

Crap no wonder the Chinese are winning! We can't even make thermometers that have accuracy and precision within 8%.
 Quoting: George B


The thermometers were probably made in China ... I don't think the equipment is the problem sadly..... Yes but paid good money for poor quality!
 Quoting: AliceInTheRabbitHole

 Quoting: George B


George.. you just changed my quote.....that's a bad thing George..
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Looks like someone missed the Op's point !!!! The point is the boiling point of water and not boiling an egg you Tard!!!

Oh yea....back to the point....I just boiled water in a kettle and checked the boiling point with a thermocouple. Almost exactly 100 C (212 F).... at 800 Ft above sea level.



The earth atmospheric pressure has dropped by %6. It is caused by a decreasing magnetosphere.

Boil some water. It now boils at 176 degrees.

Major doom.

Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064613


Boiling itself is not what cooks the egg, it's the heat...you can raise the boiling point by adding salt...also every pound of pressure added increases the boiling point by three degrees...
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT
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broccoliDid you get an ~EGGS~ACT~ temperature reading?broccoli
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I was making dinner and thought of this thread. I was making peas so figured what the hey. I have a Hamilton Beach thermometer. It started boiling at about 195 degrees. Then I moved the thermometer over to the part the was boiling and it went up to about 203 degrees. I'd have to do it again, but it is weird to watch it happen. I am 680 feet elevation in Ohio.
 Quoting: Mother Mary


The thermometer will have to touch the bottom of the pot, but to get a true reading of the boiling point, a body of water should be heated in an oven so as to be 100% accurate...and the thermometer must be completely submerged for the duration...
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT


Thank you! I also have digital thermometer made for the oven. Which one to use? Figure maybe tomorrow I could be a boiltard for the day just to see if anything happens. Fun experiment anyways.
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Just boiled an egg to test it out.

Tasty but quick.
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bsflag it takes LONGER to boil an egg at a lower temperature, OBVIOUSLY.
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Crap no wonder the Chinese are winning! We can't even make thermometers that have accuracy and precision within 8%.
 Quoting: George B


The thermometers were probably made in China ... I don't think the equipment is the problem sadly..... Yes but paid good money for poor quality!
 Quoting: AliceInTheRabbitHole

 Quoting: George B


George.. you just changed my quote.....that's a bad thing George..
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Sorry, the IPad which I was using didn't allow me to scroll to the end of your quote . . . I thought I was there but obviously I was not . . . I am now using a PC. IPad must be made in China as well.
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