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WHAT TO DO IF A NUCLEAR DISASTER IS IMMINENT!

 
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WHAT TO DO IF A NUCLEAR DISASTER IS IMMINENT!
With all the rumors floating around the internet about an " American Hiroshima" I thought it might be good to post this. I just read this in an e-mail from "Watchman Prophets".

Personally I hope this is just that a rumor and more psyop from our friends at Terror Unlimited and won´t happen... but just in case:

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Your top priority right now, though, is preparing for your own immediate family survival!
WHAT TO DO IF A NUCLEAR DISASTER IS IMMINENT!
This guide is for families preparing for imminent terrorist or strategic nuclear attacks
with expected severe destruction and widespread radioactive fallout downwind.
IF ONLY A ‘Dirty Bomb’ Attack (Not the vastly more devastating nuclear weapon blasts discussed below.) - You can
expect localized and downwind contamination from the explosion and dispersed radioactive materials. If you are near
enough to see or hear any local bomb blast, assume that it includes radiological or chemical agents. You should move
away from the blast area as quickly as possible. If the wind is blowing toward you from the direction of the blast, travel
in a direction that keeps the wind to your left or right as you move away from the blast area. If possible cover your face
with a dust mask or cloth to avoid inhaling potentially radioactive dust. Upon reaching a safe location, remove your outer
clothing outside and shower as soon as possible. Refer to local news sources for additional instructions about sheltering
or evacuation. The government is better prepared to direct and assist the public in a ´dirty bomb´ incident, unlike an
actual nuclear weapon attack discussed below.
In a national crisis of imminent nuclear weapon attacks, read all the way through this guide first,
THEN TAKE EFFECTIVE PROTECTIVE ACTION WITH CONFIDENCE... FAST!
#1 - STAY OR GO?
You must decide FIRST if you need to prepare where you are, or attempt evacuation. The nature of the threat, your
prior preparations, and your confidence in your sources of information should direct your decision. If you know already you
will be preparing to stay at your own home or, at least, the immediate local area, go now to #2 below.
If you are considering evacuation, your decision requires a very high confidence that it is worth the risk. You do not want
to get stuck between your current location and your hoped for destination, as there will probably be no easy getting back.
If you fail to get to your destination, you may be exposed without shelter, in a dangerous situation with little effective law
enforcement, perhaps among panicked hordes of refugees. Whatever supplies you have may be limited then to what you
can carry on foot. IF you are in a big city or near a military target, AND you have relatives or friends in the country that you
know are awaiting you, AND the roads between you and them are clear, AND the authorities are not yet restricting traffic,
AND you have the means and fuel, evacuation may be a viable option for a limited time. DO NOT attempt evacuation if all
of the above is not clearly known, or if the situation is deteriorating too quickly to make the complete trip. You do not want
to get stuck and/or become a refugee being herded along with panicked masses. If evacuation is truly a viable option,
do not wait - GO NOW! Do so with as many of the supplies listed on the last page as possible. Better to be two days too
early in arriving than two hours too late and getting snagged mid-way, potentially exposing your family to a worse fate than
having stayed where you were. Because of the very real danger of getting caught in an evacuation stampede that stalls,
almost all families will be better off making the best of it wherever they currently are.
#2 - WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FIRST
Because time is of the essence, you need to first delegate and assign to different adult family members specific tasks
so they can all be accomplished at the same time. Your first priorities to assure your family survival are Shelter, Water, and
Food/Supplies. While some are working on the water storage and shelter at home, others need to be acquiring, as much
as possible, the food and supplies.
#3 - FOOD/SUPPLIES
Because much of the food and supplies listed on the last page of this guide may quickly become unavailable, quantities
restricted, and/or the streets and stores may become un-safe soon, you need to assign someone NOW to immediately
go to the stores with that list! Get cash from the bank and ATM´s first, but try and use credit cards at the stores, if at all
possible, to preserve your cash.
#4 - WATER
With one or more adults now heading to the stores with the list on the last page, those remaining need to begin storing
water IMMEDIATELY! Lack of clean water will devastate your family much more quickly and more severely than any lack
of food. Without water for both drinking and continued good sanitary practices in food preparation and for bathroom excursions
(which will inevitably be much less sanitary than normal), debilitating sickness could rampage through your household
with little hope of prompt medical attention. That is a highly likely but, avoidable, disaster, ONLY IF you have enough
water.
Every possible container needs to be filled with water RIGHT NOW! It will be very hard to have stored too much water.
When the electricity/pumps go down or everybody in your community is doing the same thing, thus dropping the water pressure,
that´s it, what you´ve got is all you might be getting for a very long time. Empty pop bottles (1-3 liter) are ideal for water
storage, also filling up the bathtub and washing machine. (Remember, later you´ll have some in your hot water tank.) If you
have any kiddie pools or old water beds, pull them out and fill them up, too. (Water from a water bed should be used only
for bathing or cleaning, not for drinking as it may contain traces of algicide and/or fungicides.) Anything and everything that´ll
hold water needs to be filled up quickly RIGHT NOW!!
One of the shopping items listed on the last page is new garbage cans and liner bags which you´ll also use for storing water.
If you can´t get any more new cans, you could clean out an existing garbage can and scrub it throughout with bleach, then
put in a new garbage bag liner and fill it with water. (Use two liners if they are very thin/flimsy.) Choose well where you fill
up garbage cans with water because they won´t easily be moved once full and many of them together could be too heavy
for some upper floor locations. Ideally, they need to be very near where your shelter will be constructed and can actually
add to its shielding properties, as you´ll see below. BE ASSURED, YOU CANNOT STORE AND HAVE TOO MUCH
WATER! Do not hesitate, fill up every possible container, RIGHT NOW!
#5 - SHELTER
The principles of radiation protection are simple - with many options and resources families can use to prepare or improvise
a very effective shelter. You must throw off the self-defeating myths of nuclear un-survivability that may needlessly seal
the fate of less informed families.
Radioactive fallout is the particulate matter (dust) produced by a nuclear explosion and carried high up into the air by the
mushroom cloud. It drifts on the wind and most of it settles back to earth downwind of the explosion. The heaviest, most
dangerous, and most noticeable fallout, will ´fall out´ first close to ground zero. It may begin arriving minutes after an explosion.
While the smaller and lighter dust-like particles will typically be arriving hours later, as they drift much farther downwind,
often for hundreds of miles. As it settles, whether you can see it or not, fallout will accumulate and blow around everywhere
just like dust or light snow does on the ground and roofs. Wind and rain can concentrate the fallout into localized
´hot spots´ of much more intense radiation with no visible indication of its presence.
This radioactive fallout ‘dust’ is dangerous because it is emitting penetrating radiation energy (similar to x-ray’s). This radiation
(not the fallout dust) can go right through walls, roofs and protective clothing. Even if you manage not to inhale or
ingest the dust, and keep it off your skin, hair, and clothes, and even if none gets inside your house, the radiation penetrating
your home is still extremely dangerous, and can injure or kill you inside.
Radioactive fallout from a nuclear explosion, though very dangerous initially, loses its intensity quickly because it is giving
off so much energy. For example, fallout emitting gamma ray radiation at a rate of 500 R/hr (fatal with one hour of exposure)
shortly after an explosion, weakens to only 1/10th as strong 7 hours later. Three days later, it´s only 1/100th as strong,
or as deadly, as it was initially.
That is really very good news, because our families can readily survive it IF we get them into a proper shelter to
safely wait it out as it becomes less dangerous with every passing hour.
What stops radiation, and thus shields your family, is simply putting mass between them and the radiation source. Like
police body armor stopping bullets, mass stops (absorbs) radiation. The thicker the mass, the more radiation it stops. Also,
the denser (heavier) the mass used, the more effective it is with every inch more you add to your fallout shelter. The thickness
in inches needed to cut the radiation down to only 1/10th of its initial intensity for different common materials is: Steel
3.3”, concrete 11”, earth 16”, water 24”, wood 38”, etc. The thickness required to stop 99% of the radiation is: 5” of steel,
16” of solid brick or hollow concrete blocks filled with mortar or sand, 2 feet of packed earth or 3 feet if loose, 3 feet of water.
You may not have enough steel available, but anything you do have will have mass and can be used to add to your shielding
- it just takes more thickness of lighter wood, for example, than heavier earth, to absorb and stop the same amount of
radiation. Increasing the distance between your family and the radiation outside also reduces the radiation intensity.
The goals of your family fallout shelter are:
• To maximize the distance away from the fallout ‘dusting’ outside on the ground and roof
• To place sufficient mass between your family and the fallout to absorb the deadly radiation
• To make the shelter tolerable to stay in while the radiation subsides with every passing hour
While a fallout shelter can be built anywhere, you should see what your best options are at home or nearby. Some structures
already provide significant shielding or partial shielding that can be enhanced for adequate protection. If you do not
have a basement available, you can still use the techniques shown below in any above ground structure, but you´ll
need to use more mass to achieve the same level of shielding. You may consider using other solid structures nearby,
especially those with below ground spaces, such as commercial buildings, schools, churches, below ground parking
garages, large and long culverts, tunnels, etc.. Some of these may require permissions and/or the acquiring of additional
materials to minimize any fallout drifting or blowing into them, if open ended. Buildings with a half-dozen or more floors,
where there is not a concern of blast damage, may provide good radiation protection in the center of the middle floors. This
is because of both the distance and the shielding the multiple floors provide from the fallout on the ground and roof.
Bottom Line: choose a structure nearby with both the greatest mass and distance already in place between the outside,
where the fallout would settle, and the shelter inside.
If you have a basement in your home, or at a nearby relatives´ or friends´ house that you can use, your best option is probably
to fortify and use it, unless you have ready access to a better/deeper structure nearby.
For an expedient last-minute basement shelter, push a heavy table that you can get under into the corner that has the soil
highest on the outside. The ground level outside ideally needs to be above the top of the inside shelter. If no heavy table
is available, you can take internal doors off their hinges and lay them on supports to create your ‘table’. Then pile any available
mass on and around it such as books, wood, cordwood, bricks, sandbags,
heavy furniture, full file cabinets, full water containers, your food
stocks, and boxes and pillow cases full of anything heavy, like earth.
Everything you could pile up and around it has mass that will help absorb
and stop more radiation from penetrating inside - the heavier the better.
However, be sure to reinforce your table and supports so you do not overload
it and risk collapse.
Leave a small crawl-through entrance and more mass there that can be
easily pulled in after you to seal it up. Have at least two gaps or 4-6” square
air spaces, one high at one end and one low at the other. Use more if
crowded and/or hotter climate. A small piece of cardboard can help fan
fresh air in if the natural rising warmer air convection current needs an
assist moving the air along. This incoming air won´t need to be filtered if the
basement has been reasonably sealed up, however any windows or other
openings will require some solid mass coverage to assure they stay sealed
and to provide additional shielding protection for the basement. More
details on this in the next (#6) section.
IN THE OPEN HOUSE WITHOUT BASEMENT
NO PROTECTION SLIGHT PROTECTION
HOUSE WITH BASEMENT HOUSE WITH SHELTER
FAIR PROTECTION BEST PROTECTION
With more time, materials, and carpentry or masonry skills, you could even construct
a more formal fallout shelter, such as the lean-to shown to the right, but you
should pile up much more mass than what little is shown here.
An effective fallout shelter constructed in a basement may reduce your radiation
exposure 100-200 fold. Thus, if the initial radiation intensity outside was 500 R/hr
(fatal in one hour), the basement shelter occupants might only experience 5 R/hr
or even less, which is survivable, as the radiation intensity will be decreasing with
every passing hour.
Adding mass on the floor above your chosen basement corner, and outside
against the walls opposite your shelter, can dramatically increase your shielding
protection. Every inch thicker adds up to more effective life-saving radiation
shielding.
As cramped as that crawl space fallout shelter might seem, the vital shielding provided
by simply moving some mass into place could be the difference between
exposure to a lethal dose of radiation and the survival of your family.
The majority of people requiring any sheltering at all will be many miles
downwind, and they will not need to stay sheltered for weeks on end. In fact,
most people will only need to stay sheltered full-time for a few days before
they can start coming out briefly to attend to quick essential chores. Later,
they can begin spending ever more time out of the shelter daily, only coming
back in to sleep. As miserable as it might seem now, you and your family
can easily endure that, especially compared to the alternative.
It´s really not so difficult to build an effective family fallout shelter,
not to get it done... RIGHT NOW!
#6 - ESSENTIAL DETAILS
If you’ve accomplished the above; securing your supplies, stored water, and built your family fallout shelter,
CONGRATULATIONS! You have now succeeded in improving the odds of survival for your family 100-fold, or more! Now,
you need to expand your knowledge and fine-tune the tactics that will make the most of your family survival strategy.
... more at link
[email protected]. This guide will be continually ‘fine-tuned’ so, before distributing it, download it fresh from
[link to www.ki4u.com] Last Update: 5/2/2005

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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Steps to take in the event of a nuclear disaster:

1. Finish your drink.

2. Pay your tab.

3. Put your head firmly between your legs.

4. Kiss your butt goodbye!!!
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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50 year old news...

sigh
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~ roserose HIGH DOSES OF VITAMIN C {20,000 mgs. daily} KELP {protects and nourishes the Thyroid which is very vulnerable to damage from radioactivity} and SIBERIAN GINSENG {Siberian Ginseng has special properties which detoxify radioactivity in particular} and FENNEL SEED { protects body from radiation poisoning} <<<------------- THESE ARE THE ITEMS WHICH ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST FOR IMMUNE SUPPORT in the event of aforementioned, but Heavens help us, we affirm and visualize that these negative scenarios are TRANSMUTED and are harmlessly dissipated by Our COLLECTIVE SPIRITUAL LIGHT ~ roserose~grouphug~roserose
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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When I was in college I had a professor who stated that nuclear weapons were like fire crackers to 8 year old boys. That sooner or later someone would set one off. Lets hope its later or better yet lets hope he was wrong.
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DUCK! and COVER!
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you beat me to it...LOL

DUCK! and COVER!
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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rice and beans require lots of water!

try this site [link to www.josephprep.com]

blessing...we will need them!
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Its been imminent for 50 years.

But hey I´ve been busy....
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Why not keep a fairly large amount of cash at home? This advice to get to an ATM is stupid. It should read: Keep a fairly large amount of cash on hand so that in times of emergency you will not be one of the stupid idiots standing in line at ATM´s.
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Eh you don´t want to be clinging to this hellhole once the winter sets in. I can mean that in many different ways, it doesn´t matter how bad it actually is - but I doubt a world battered by serious nuclear exchange is one I want to inhabit.
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"When I was in college I had a professor whom stated "


PLEASE!!! I had a professor WHO stated....
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NOW that we´ve heard from the english teacher contigent.
People dont realize just how bad a nuclear incident, even a minor one could be.
HERES a few things you missed on your list.
BREATH any outside air AT ALL and shoot yourself in the head, better than dying from rad posioning.
Be prepared to kill people trying to kill YOU for your supplies, since you´ll probably be the only one in the neighborhood with any.
Think "night of the living dead" except that the zombies will have their senses and either be starving or dying from rads
LEARN the triage rules, so if your injuries are past a certain point you dont have to waste your time going to a med center, as during the worst the triage will be up to 75%(see above about shooting yourself in the head)
Get ready to fight the govt to the death(they´ll win) or go to a relocation camp, all of your precious supplies confiscated to give to people with power and money.
Also be prepared to give up every freedom, convience, comfort that makes life livable, but dont worry, like most you wont be around long,if you´re lucky you´ll be at ground zero
spockbeer2
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This is easy advice, which if you stick to will allow you to escape the worst of it.
Drag a matress under your house stairs, ,a bucket, another bucket full of tap water, and any food in your kitchen (although this isn´t nessescary). You´ll have to do this fucking quickly to avoid being radiated and for your water or food being radiated. Once there stay under stairs for 10 days, dont leave for no reason, shit and piss in one of the buckets and drink from the other. After 10 days you can move about, the air should be free of radiation particles from the fallout.

Thats the worst of it over and you´ll more than likely survive from that point on. Get to a radio, see what the advice is and where the nearest aid camp is, and where fallout is weak. Head in that direction with supplies and your basically fine, probably still increased your chances of cancer but you wont die in the immediate or mid term.
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Dumbed down for americans version of what to do when your city has been nuked.

1) duck
2) cover
3) tune to cnn
4) if your town was nuked and you´re in your home there´s no need for a step 4.. you´re doomed
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make sure and follow step 3! very important!
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3. Put your head firmly between your legs.

4. Kiss your butt goodbye!!!

I concur.
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BAM BCEM nu3ga!
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3407, damn good, basic elementary and do-able. None of those long long lists of ´necessities´ just practical and anyone can. headbang
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Show on the history channel tonight about canabalism,might want to to catch that one, might give you some idea of what the aftermath might me like
WITH a three day supply of food thats fragil as hell wont take long for the food to run outbeer2
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You´re morbid Bundy, just plain morbid. bleh.
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This is from Shane Connolly, he can be found at

www.timebomb2000.com

which is a good site for preparedness.
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Bundy is pretty much right on this topic. IMHO.
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Any recipes out there bundy?muaha
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I remember after 9-11 there were threats of chemical and biological attacks on America. The sale of duct tape and plastic went through the roof. Look for unusual selling of these same items preceding an attack.
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Or the short selling of stocks, like the airline stocks just before 9-11.
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Bumping for 06 and a scarier world than 05!
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Gosh Bear...I have never seen a thread where all the posts were from the same poster. :) Let me help you out here.

Shane is a very reputable person and his website is legit. He advice is sound.

You might want to give some serious consideration to what he has to say.

This is his business and he studies all the details. I think it would be prudent and wise to pay some attention to this....especially about the water.
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bump
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Bumping for 06 and a scarier world than 05!
 Quoting: Bear


Schizos should take there meds
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Shelter





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