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Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan

 
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Lebanon's March 14 Coalition have called for sit-ins against Hizbollah and the new prime-minister, Mikati
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
IDF Head of the Intelligence Corps, “Hezbollah won’t take over Lebanon”

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yeah, and what will you do if it does...? kill 1000 more civilians and then run like cowards (remember 2006)?

crazy bird
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244161


Interesting historical perspective, and if Israel's enemies share that perspective than that is good news for Israel.

Israel does not want to occupy Lebanon, they want peace on their northern border.
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Army tanks movinng into East Beirut's christian areas
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The christians will be needing those tanks if tshtf....
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
False reports that Israel has not reacted to the situation in Lebanon

Israel's Shalom says Iran taking Lebanon 'hostage'

Israeli vice-prime minister Silvan Shalom said on Wednesday that Lebanon was being taken "hostage" by Iran and Hezbollah, after the Shiite group's preferred candidate was named as Lebanese premier-designate.

"The international community must do everything to stop Hezbollah and Iran from taking Lebanon hostage," Shalom told Israeli public radio.

"Hezbollah is not simply a terrorist organisation, it's a terrorist organisation controlled by the Iranian state," he said.


AFP

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You hit it on the head guys, I think you called this the other day..I guess Israeli DID hear the message in the speech. Kudos.. bump
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Iranian takeover of Lebanon likely, say Israelis

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False reports that Israel has not reacted to the situation in Lebanon

Israel's Shalom says Iran taking Lebanon 'hostage'

Israeli vice-prime minister Silvan Shalom said on Wednesday that Lebanon was being taken "hostage" by Iran and Hezbollah, after the Shiite group's preferred candidate was named as Lebanese premier-designate.

"The international community must do everything to stop Hezbollah and Iran from taking Lebanon hostage," Shalom told Israeli public radio.

"Hezbollah is not simply a terrorist organisation, it's a terrorist organisation controlled by the Iranian state," he said.


AFP

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244129

You hit it on the head guys, I think you called this the other day..I guess Israeli DID hear the message in the speech. Kudos.. bump
 Quoting: sIcKaNdTwIsTeD

CLEAR message from Israel

Will they act unilaterally is the question ?
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Lebanon's Sunnis protest against new PM

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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Naharnet: The body of an unknown man in his thirties was found in an abandoned building in Dora
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
False reports that Israel has not reacted to the situation in Lebanon

Israel's Shalom says Iran taking Lebanon 'hostage'

Israeli vice-prime minister Silvan Shalom said on Wednesday that Lebanon was being taken "hostage" by Iran and Hezbollah, after the Shiite group's preferred candidate was named as Lebanese premier-designate.

"The international community must do everything to stop Hezbollah and Iran from taking Lebanon hostage," Shalom told Israeli public radio.

"Hezbollah is not simply a terrorist organisation, it's a terrorist organisation controlled by the Iranian state," he said.


AFP

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244129

You hit it on the head guys, I think you called this the other day..I guess Israeli DID hear the message in the speech. Kudos.. bump
 Quoting: sIcKaNdTwIsTeD



Goofy Thum
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Albalad: a judge of the International Tribunal: the absence of genuine government in Lebanon complicate matters
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Here is a link for the Hrvatska poster regarding 2006 Lebanon war casualties:

[link to www.camera.org]

Then again, trying to reason with a Croat, who lives in an ethnically pure country since their cleansing, a country 97% white catholic, well, I will leave that to the historians.
He that lives upon hope will die fasting, -Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
False reports that Israel has not reacted to the situation in Lebanon

Israel's Shalom says Iran taking Lebanon 'hostage'

Israeli vice-prime minister Silvan Shalom said on Wednesday that Lebanon was being taken "hostage" by Iran and Hezbollah, after the Shiite group's preferred candidate was named as Lebanese premier-designate.

"The international community must do everything to stop Hezbollah and Iran from taking Lebanon hostage
," Shalom told Israeli public radio.

"Hezbollah is not simply a terrorist organisation, it's a terrorist organisation controlled by the Iranian state," he said.

AFP

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244129

You hit it on the head guys, I think you called this the other day..I guess Israeli DID hear the message in the speech. Kudos.. bump
 Quoting: sIcKaNdTwIsTeD

CLEAR message from Israel

Will they act unilaterally is the question ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244129


nor right away, i'd guess. this is the same sort of language the israeli government has been using around iran to avoid unilateral action while looking like it's doing something. eventually if nobody else steps up, thoughm, they'll have to (as in politically have to) take action
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Albalad: a judge of the International Tribunal: the absence of genuine government in Lebanon complicate matters
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indeed
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
5a

Janey, can you check when you talk to your sources and see if there has been any major movement of Hizzie irregulars in order to enforce the current situation. Directional movement would be interesting as well. Thanks.
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Think we're witnessing the calm before the storm.

Mr Shit is due to meet Mr Fan in the very near future.
 Quoting: BadMoonRising


Nah. I would say, we are at the point where a regional conflict is unlikely at this time. Remember, Hez JUST formed the government, why would they immediately suicide their gains?

I personally think the end-game will now be a funnel of arms through Syria/Iran. Condemnation by the US/Israel and the UN in the near future, but an actual conflict would be months away, possibly longer.

Think strategically, it is not in Hezbollah's interest to start lobbing rockets into Northern Israel, only to have the IDF come in and steamroll their government.
 Quoting: Marketslave


your analysis seems sound to me: but with all that's happening in the Arab world who knows what might happen?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Anything is possible as unforeseen events can snowball rapidly. Chess is a game played slowly and methodically.

Israel is going to be slowly backed into a corner by Iran and its allies. Egypt could soon be a wildcard. US dominance is waning with massive cutbacks in the federal budget. (DoD cuts will be deep) If you listened to the State of the Union (boring as it was), it was all about domestic policy, very little was focused on international conflict, other than brief touches on Iran and North Korea.

This is Iran's time to shine IMO. Western powers have shown their weakness, and they know how to exploit it.

Time will tell.
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Egypt markets crash due to countrywide protests
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ok latest that I have is that Mitaki is serious that he may give up the role of PM if he is not able to form the unity cabinet he wants with support of Mar 14. Apparently, he doesn't want to be seen as a Hezbollah stooge and only took the role in the hope of unity. He believed there would be civil war without a unity govt.

Things are not turning out his way, especially with the meeting with Hariri. It also seems Hezbollah are leaning on him more than he expected.

At this time no final decision has been made by him but he is already very unhappy and is not seeing his idea of a unity government for all working out.

I can confirm significant military movements on the ground, including tanks as mentioned earlier, although the streets are largely quiet with a few silent protests.

I can answer the UN conundrum from last night and why embassies are asking people to leave now when things seem quieter. Both this and the military deployments we are now seeing are preparation should Mikati suddenly quit today or tomorrow. I am told that this was mentioned in diplomatic back channels yesterday so governments could prepare.

My source is saying the chances of Motaki going are 50-50 and if he goes there will be further unrest
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Think we're witnessing the calm before the storm.

Mr Shit is due to meet Mr Fan in the very near future.
 Quoting: BadMoonRising


Nah. I would say, we are at the point where a regional conflict is unlikely at this time. Remember, Hez JUST formed the government, why would they immediately suicide their gains?

I personally think the end-game will now be a funnel of arms through Syria/Iran. Condemnation by the US/Israel and the UN in the near future, but an actual conflict would be months away, possibly longer.

Think strategically, it is not in Hezbollah's interest to start lobbing rockets into Northern Israel, only to have the IDF come in and steamroll their government.
 Quoting: Marketslave


your analysis seems sound to me: but with all that's happening in the Arab world who knows what might happen?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Anything is possible as unforeseen events can snowball rapidly. Chess is a game played slowly and methodically.

Israel is going to be slowly backed into a corner by Iran and its allies. Egypt could soon be a wildcard. US dominance is waning with massive cutbacks in the federal budget. (DoD cuts will be deep) If you listened to the State of the Union (boring as it was), it was all about domestic policy, very little was focused on international conflict, other than brief touches on Iran and North Korea.

This is Iran's time to shine IMO. Western powers have shown their weakness, and they know how to exploit it.

Time will tell.
 Quoting: Marketslave


both nasrallah and the iranians have shown themselves to be excellent chess players
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Egypt markets crash due to countrywide protests
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European markets are not impressed; all UP over 1 percent
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Egypt markets crash due to countrywide protests
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Correction, Egyptian markets have been in a decline since the beginning of January. Today the market was stopped due to a 10% decline, however the markets did not crash as a result of the protests, the headline is a bit misleading.
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Janey are you there???
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sorry yes was on the phone
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Can’t send you private Msg
So here it comes!!

Thanks for the nice photo.
Understand that the accident was an incredible shift in your life. Don’t know when this happened? but what I understand, you have continued to work and be active, which of course must be an incredible gift.
It is hard to understand these altered conditions in once life. I'm used to being active, with gym visits and time on the golf course. When you run into something as hard as you do, you have to learn to enjoy other things in life. As to be a valued member of GLP and a great working partner in your line of work. Giant thank!! For sending me the picture and allowed me to get a small glimpse of who you are. Want to see who I am?? Just go to YouTube and search for kent6608. There I have done a lot of crazy weird videos from cold Sweden.

Much Love

Kent
hf
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thank you, the good news is that I am still fully active too. I have a multigym at home and jog most mornings before work. I still play sports etc so it has not really affected my lifestyle.

Thank you for your kind words, it means so much as everyone here is so kind to me!
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
ok latest that I have is that Mitaki is serious that he may give up the role of PM if he is not able to form the unity cabinet he wants with support of Mar 14. Apparently, he doesn't want to be seen as a Hezbollah stooge and only took the role in the hope of unity. He believed there would be civil war without a unity govt.

Things are not turning out his way, especially with the meeting with Hariri. It also seems Hezbollah are leaning on him more than he expected.

At this time no final decision has been made by him but he is already very unhappy and is not seeing his idea of a unity government for all working out.

I can confirm significant military movements on the ground, including tanks as mentioned earlier, although the streets are largely quiet with a few silent protests.

I can answer the UN conundrum from last night and why embassies are asking people to leave now when things seem quieter. Both this and the military deployments we are now seeing are preparation should Mikati suddenly quit today or tomorrow. I am told that this was mentioned in diplomatic back channels yesterday so governments could prepare.

My source is saying the chances of Motaki going are 50-50 and if he goes there will be further unrest
 Quoting: Janey

good morning Janey. Heard any rumors about who would be the second choice, if he passes?
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Egypt markets crash due to countrywide protests
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Correction, Egyptian markets have been in a decline since the beginning of January. Today the market was stopped due to a 10% decline, however the markets did not crash as a result of the protests, the headline is a bit misleading.
 Quoting: Marketslave


agareed -- confusion as to cause/effect, but the steepness of the market drop today is (imo) a result of the protests
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
ok latest that I have is that Mitaki is serious that he may give up the role of PM if he is not able to form the unity cabinet he wants with support of Mar 14. Apparently, he doesn't want to be seen as a Hezbollah stooge and only took the role in the hope of unity. He believed there would be civil war without a unity govt.

Things are not turning out his way, especially with the meeting with Hariri. It also seems Hezbollah are leaning on him more than he expected.

At this time no final decision has been made by him but he is already very unhappy and is not seeing his idea of a unity government for all working out.

I can confirm significant military movements on the ground, including tanks as mentioned earlier, although the streets are largely quiet with a few silent protests.

I can answer the UN conundrum from last night and why embassies are asking people to leave now when things seem quieter. Both this and the military deployments we are now seeing are preparation should Mikati suddenly quit today or tomorrow. I am told that this was mentioned in diplomatic back channels yesterday so governments could prepare.

My source is saying the chances of Motaki going are 50-50 and if he goes there will be further unrest
 Quoting: Janey


So if Mitaki fails (and he will) to form a unity government, will we see a HOT coup d'etat by Hezbollah, instead of the "democratic" way they are trying now?
The only real solution to all problems is unconditional love
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Here is a link for the Hrvatska poster regarding 2006 Lebanon war casualties:

[link to www.camera.org]

Then again, trying to reason with a Croat, who lives in an ethnically pure country since their cleansing, a country 97% white catholic, well, I will leave that to the historians.
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yeah, tell that to this child

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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
March 14 to start a 'tent city' protest
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Janey are you there???
 Quoting: Limpan


sorry yes was on the phone
 Quoting: Janey


Can’t send you private Msg
So here it comes!!

Thanks for the nice photo.
Understand that the accident was an incredible shift in your life. Don’t know when this happened? but what I understand, you have continued to work and be active, which of course must be an incredible gift.
It is hard to understand these altered conditions in once life. I'm used to being active, with gym visits and time on the golf course. When you run into something as hard as you do, you have to learn to enjoy other things in life. As to be a valued member of GLP and a great working partner in your line of work. Giant thank!! For sending me the picture and allowed me to get a small glimpse of who you are. Want to see who I am?? Just go to YouTube and search for kent6608. There I have done a lot of crazy weird videos from cold Sweden.

Much Love

Kent
hf
 Quoting: Limpan


thank you, the good news is that I am still fully active too. I have a multigym at home and jog most mornings before work. I still play sports etc so it has not really affected my lifestyle.

Thank you for your kind words, it means so much as everyone here is so kind to me!
 Quoting: Janey

Great for you!!!
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Here is a link for the Hrvatska poster regarding 2006 Lebanon war casualties:

[link to www.camera.org]

Then again, trying to reason with a Croat, who lives in an ethnically pure country since their cleansing, a country 97% white catholic, well, I will leave that to the historians.
 Quoting: Weatherman


yeah, tell that to this child

[link to www.truthdig.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244161


btw, we have a big muslim community in croatia and we live wuth peace with them, unlike you nazi retards from amerikka

bushhitler
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Re: Lebanon Update Thread - Wed 26 Jan
Here is a link for the Hrvatska poster regarding 2006 Lebanon war casualties:

[link to www.camera.org]

Then again, trying to reason with a Croat, who lives in an ethnically pure country since their cleansing, a country 97% white catholic, well, I will leave that to the historians.
 Quoting: Weatherman


yeah, tell that to this child

[link to www.truthdig.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244161


btw, we have a big muslim community in croatia and we live wuth peace with them, unlike you nazi retards from amerikka

bushhitler
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GUYS! If you want to discus Croatia, please open e new thread.
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Egypt markets crash due to countrywide protests
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244129


Correction, Egyptian markets have been in a decline since the beginning of January. Today the market was stopped due to a 10% decline, however the markets did not crash as a result of the protests, the headline is a bit misleading.
 Quoting: Marketslave


agareed -- confusion as to cause/effect, but the steepness of the market drop today is (imo) a result of the protests
 Quoting: Swinburnian


No doubt, it has accelerated the process. What better way to pull the plug on your holdings when massive demonstrations are happening in the background? ;)

Always follow the money.

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