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-- Vial of VX Gas MISSING at Dugway. -- That Is The Cause Of The Lockdown

 
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wonder if this "cell" is related to the navy guy who stole thousands of microchips and other stuff from the navy?
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[link to www.congress.org]

FBI should be investigating, but maybe they don't really want the public to know that The Navy has this kind of stuff.
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wow. You should see what's inside the nose of a submarine. You can use the microphones to listen to somebody talk miles away through air. In water, thousands of miles. :)

We have neat toys :-)
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wonder if this "cell" is related to the navy guy who stole thousands of microchips and other stuff from the navy?
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Oh, and I haven't heard of that story before, good post, sorry I don't have any info about it :(
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also...style a la Aussie Bloke
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I thought that at first, but Aussie used a lot of caps, totally different syntax, but the thought process does seem like Aussie's
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OP:

You've mentioned Ft Detrick MD several times in your posts; I was just wondering if the missing agents came out of USAMRID or another area lab?

I first learned of USAMRID a couple of decades ago when reading Richard Preston's chilling nonfiction book, THE HOT ZONE: it's a true-life account of an Ebola outbreak at that facility.

One of the hero-Doctors in this book was from a little town here in Kansas not far from where I write this. I was so moved after reading what she and other researchers experienced that I looked up the phone number of her parents... called, and thanked them for having such a courageous daughter.

There is SO MUCH we average citizens will never know about the hideous mutated strains of viruses and bacterium our government labs have created to help keep us all "safe." And, I resent that fact very deeply.

It is only through people such as yourself we catch glimmers of what the whole ugly truth may be. Knowing the truth however, isn't always easy, is it?

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i got in touch with a real CT. he said that if jackwagon had uttered a word of what he saw he would have been toast.
it was either bullshit or disinfo. take your pick. the one thing we know for sure is that there was an incident. what exactly it was...who knows?
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i got in touch with a real CT. he said that if jackwagon had uttered a word of what he saw he would have been toast.
it was either bullshit or disinfo. take your pick. the one thing we know for sure is that there was an incident. what exactly it was...who knows?
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i almost signed up for the navy....
i was going in for CT....only reason i regret not going is not getting to go into that field. :(

but anyways...i thought it was strange too...(though i believe what jackwagon has said, thus far, pretty much) ...but before i even went in it was pretty well impressed into me how secretive CT is, as far as their info goes... like they keep a tight lid on them CTs...
i was basically told that its kinda frowned on for them to even socialize too much outside of CT because they could slip and release sensitive info...
my boyfriend's ex actually went to be a CT...and actually did it. she got kinda weird, referring to us as 'civilians' and she can't talk about ANYTHING, like ANYTHING, not even a fucking period dot on a paper...or else. it was kinda creepy, actually.

that said....
i believe that jackwagon has had a lot of solid info, so far. i'm try to always stay skeptical, no matter how much i feel like believing someone....

the rest remains to be seen.
just like his motive for dishing out all this 'secret' info...
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one more thing...
JACKWAGON, i think i misunderstood something you said earlier in the thread...

i thought you had said the motive for the 2 guys at dugway taking the VX was likely money, as in they planned to sell it for a lot of money....

then the story was (and still has been) that they are part of a homegrown terrorism cell??

so which is it, and did you ever say that they were going to sell it?
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bump
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wheeeeerrrrreeeee is jackwagon????
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Good Question ? we can pray for him ..
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wheeeeerrrrreeeee is jackwagon????
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I'm telling you - he's been picked up or else it's a hoax.
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Good Question ? we can pray for him ..
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OH...YOU MEAN MISSION COMPLETE?
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What do you mean by that? If i Have any Pull Id give the Guy a Medal or Promotion , if he does get reviewed for OPsec , then I will vouch for him , what he said is true , as far as i know , and though i cant explain why , there are some things I have to know.

Nazis posing as our guys running loose with WMD is one of those things ... why cant you vindictive freaks stop crucifying a outstanding US soldier

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i've been following from page 1. don't get me wrong, i believe that a lot, maybe most, possibly even ALL of what he says is true.

but if it is, i do not believe he is just blabbing on his own accord...i just don't. if this is all true and he is anyone close to who he says he is, he is saying what they want him to...maybe not everything...and maybe he's not allowed to say everything, but i definitely think he has to say CERTAIN things (like homegrowns are doing it)
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whats that about nazis posing as our guys???

did JACKWAGON say that?!
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yes and no , I said Nazis , he said ex military/police , but read between the lines , why aren't they still [constitutional ] military?

Why do they want WMD?

who do we KNow that wants to reduce the Population to cover a plethora of felonies ?
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yes and no , I said Nazis , he said ex military/police , but read between the lines , why aren't they still [constitutional ] military?

Why do they want WMD?

who do we KNow that wants to reduce the Population to cover a plethora of felonies ?
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they are IN the military..........he said.
i don't know, who do you know that wants to reduce the pop. to cover felonies???

anyways, can jackwagon answer my previous posts please??
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bush cheny , rumsfield ect..
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bush cheny , rumsfield ect..
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you're thinking too small, imo
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i got in touch with a real CT. he said that if jackwagon had uttered a word of what he saw he would have been toast.
it was either bullshit or disinfo. take your pick. the one thing we know for sure is that there was an incident. what exactly it was...who knows?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247582


oooooohhh a CT. Is he I or O level?
lol
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one more thing...
JACKWAGON, i think i misunderstood something you said earlier in the thread...

i thought you had said the motive for the 2 guys at dugway taking the VX was likely money, as in they planned to sell it for a lot of money....

then the story was (and still has been) that they are part of a homegrown terrorism cell??

so which is it, and did you ever say that they were going to sell it?
 Quoting: double_frick


I never said it was money motivated.
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I've been looking at the hitcounter of my blog, you know ip details of visitors and their locations, and 'three letter agency' is really interested in this Novichok/Dugway story, someone there is searching by those exact terms.

Now, for me, because I'm not convinced someone on the inside could evade RANDOM BASE SHAKEDOWNs for so long, I'm wondering whether this is all some INTERNET DIS-INFORMATION VIRUS test to see how easy it is to 'pull a War of the Worlds' on You The People, they're charting its spread. Anyone remember the 'cored out cow' deaths from years back? Now, it's dead birds. Wooooh, bogey man. Etc...

You're a gullible lot, for sure - well trained little conspiracy monkeys.

:)

I'm hoping JackWagon isn't 4real - cos this is some scary-ass reportin'.
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wheeeeerrrrreeeee is jackwagon????
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I'm telling you - he's been picked up or else it's a hoax.
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I have to SLEEP sometimes right?
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I've been looking at the hitcounter of my blog, you know ip details of visitors and their locations, and 'three letter agency' is really interested in this Novichok/Dugway story, someone there is searching by those exact terms.

Now, for me, because I'm not convinced someone on the inside could evade RANDOM BASE SHAKEDOWNs for so long, I'm wondering whether this is all some INTERNET DIS-INFORMATION VIRUS test to see how easy it is to 'pull a War of the Worlds' on You The People, they're charting its spread. Anyone remember the 'cored out cow' deaths from years back? Now, it's dead birds. Wooooh, bogey man. Etc...

You're a gullible lot, for sure - well trained little conspiracy monkeys.

:)

I'm hoping JackWagon isn't 4real - cos this is some scary-ass reportin'.
 Quoting: Free Planet


Will you message me the IP/IPS that are searching for that please in a message?
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Will you message me the IP/IPS that are searching for that please in a message?
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Nah, this was yesterday morning, on my crappy FREE counter that only stores the 'last 20 hits'.

:)

Sorry.
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bump because there are too many threads to keep track of.
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and do you know how long they were AWOL before their emails were found that led them to find the missing vx?
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Could you start a new thread with this new information?
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to the guy in 'Barnesville' who just replicated the Novichok/Dugway search term, let me say it was a memory inaccuracy on my part, the exact search term was "novichok nerve agent".





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