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OPEN LETTER TO JOEL OSTEEN (Sign of the Times for Sure)

 
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Dear Joel Osteen,

You got a taste for the first time (it would seem) of what it is like to defend the truths of the Bible, not trying to be loved by or appealing to all people. I'm sure that was a shocker for you emotionally when you discovered the backlash of your comments pertaining to Elton John, but I hope this situation is just what you need to see what it means to defend and stand for the Bible. This is what it means to boldly speak the truth. You must pick sir who you will heed, God or people.

If you will heed people, you'll have to apologize for telling the truth about what God has to say about homosexuality and make up a lie for your statement that 'homosexuality is a sin'. If you'll heed God, you're going to have to do a 180 on your methods and start preaching the truth, unabashed and unaltered as it is laid out plainly in the Scriptures. This will upset even more people!

John 15:18-25
If the world hates you, know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you belonged to the world, the world would treat you with affection and would love you as its own. But because you are not of the world [no longer one with it], but I have chosen (selected) you out of the world, the world hates (detests) you. Remember that I told you, A servant is not greater than his master [is not superior to him]. If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word and obeyed My teachings, they will also keep and obey yours.

But they will do all this to you [inflict all this suffering on you] because of [your bearing] My name and on My account, for they do not know or understand the One Who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin [would be blameless]; but now they have no excuse for their sin. Whoever hates Me also hates My Father. If I had not done (accomplished) among them the works which no one else ever did, they would not be guilty of sin. But [the fact is] now they have both seen [these works] and have hated both Me and My Father.

But [this is so] that the word written in their Law might be fulfilled, They hated Me without a cause.

Romans 1:18-20
For God's [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative. For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.

For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification].

If you want to stand for the truth Mr. Osteen, you will have to deal and come to terms with the people who will inevitably hate you for it. Your enemy, Satan, is already playing damage control. He doesn't want to lose you as a feel good prosperity teacher. But the truth is, there is no hope of anything outside of Jesus Christ (John 3:3-21). No one is promised their next breath or the next day, a pay raise, a loan, a house, their health, or any good and extravagant thing (1 Kings 20:11, Luke 12:13-21, James 4:13-17).

You know what you are promised as a believer in Jesus Christ? Eternal life, along with persecution (Mark 10:28-30). Our Lord Jesus Christ did not come into this world to bring peace among men, He brought a sword that divides men (Matthew 10:34-40).

Peace will only be accomplished in our Lord and Saviors Second Coming, after the bloodiest and most costly war (in human life) man will ever know (Revelation 19:11-21). Remember people hated Jesus Christ, chiefly the religious leaders (Mark 14:1-2). How much more will they hate His servants and messengers (Matthew 10:25)? Here you agreed with God and said that homosexuality was a sin, and look how the people react to you!

Every apostle of Christ met a grizzly end for their efforts, save for the one that God spared for His purposes (John 21:20-25). Many of Christ's followers in those days shared such an end. Many of Christ's followers today in various parts of the world die for their faith in ways not much different then those believers of the past.

Each one received also the great reward of their suffering and faith in Jesus Christ. Things we can only wonder about. Their place in Heaven is wonderful, how many will be able to say the same about their faith like the faith of these who suffer for their testimony in Christ Jesus?

No doubt, very many from your congregation will have already fled and cursed you at the mention of this one truth regarding homosexuality you have stated. The only way salvation can be obtained is by God, though His son Jesus Christ and His way. There is no other way. This truth will turn away even more people then your truthful comment about homosexuality!

What will you say then Pastor Joel Osteen to this?
The angels are watching, the good and the bad (1 Peter 1:12, 1 Peter 5:8).
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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REPENT OR BURN IN HELL FOREVER!!!! God loves you.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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The JEW'S G-D is not merciful.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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REPENT OR BURN IN HELL FOREVER!!!! God loves you.
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No, you're right. Don't repent and sin all day and create inequity amongst your neighbors. God doesn't mind. jerkit
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973341

The JEW'S G-D is not merciful.
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Assuming your premise is even correct, that has nothing to do with my thread.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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his wife caused a ruckas on a plane and was kicked off she is a no class act and a pre madonna that is overly make up with bad hair

They do not represent anyone but their self interest.
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Why does a certain type of Christian live their life in judgment when the Lord said "Judge not"...

If I was God, that would sort of piss me off.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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^THIS^
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973341

REPENT OR BURN IN HELL FOREVER!!!! God loves you.
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No, you're right. Don't repent and sin all day and create inequity amongst your neighbors. God doesn't mind. jerkit
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GREAT COMEBACK, OP! chuckle

Thanks for posting this letter! I was unaware of any Osteen "boat rocking". Glad to see he has spoken some truth in the midst of all of his lies!

We'll see what he does next! The last line of the letter is classic..."the angels are watching, both the good and the bad." damned
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973341

The JEW'S G-D is not merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246575



Assuming your premise is even correct, that has nothing to do with my thread.
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There are many gods and afterall this is an Advanced Class.
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He is certainly not a fine example of a godly person, I agree. his softspoken manner is fake and disgusting. Just watched him for a bit on CNN this week.

However, regards the every going discussion on homosexuality, it is the sexual behaviors that are disgusting as are many sexual behaviors of the bisexuals, and heterosexuals. And I was one sexually abused as a child by MY mother. Sexual shit occurs all over the planet. God has no problem with LOVE between people,it is the despicable behaviors that abhor and sexual dominance in any relationship. A woman who marries a rich man for his care and provides disgusting sex to him for that care is a prostitute. I have observed loving gay relationships but few. Few good heterosexual ones, ditto.

Anal sex is against the laws of God and nature, because the rectum was not designed to handle sperm which is foreign tissue, nor the extra harmful activities of instruments used and the like. The biggest reason right now, for infertile women who destroy their husbands sperm IS anal sex, they build antibodies to it. Oral sex can produce chronic yeast infections in the gut, in either sex. Biggy cause now of leaky gut syndrome.
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What was he saying about Elton John?
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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Joel Olsteen is a motivational speaker posing as a man of God. He does not teach the Bible or Biblical Truths, he only gives "feel good" messages as he leads millions of people away from Jesus Christ.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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hf Bless you! I couldn't agree with you more.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973341

Joel Olsteen is a motivational speaker posing as a man of God. He does not teach the Bible or Biblical Truths, he only gives "feel good" messages as he leads millions of people away from Jesus Christ.
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Disagree folks. Osteen has his place in winning people to the Lord just as the 'burn in hell' guys that walk around Times Square with the sandwich boards on do. They scream that without Jesus you're going to hell and offend many people. Osteen's on the other end of that spectrum---nice, soft messages of hope. Many think the message is "too soft" but I think God uses him like he uses the hellfire and brimstone guys. I personally believe that Osteen's saved many from suicide and has done a wonderful work by showing people the LOVING, GOOD and KIND nature of God.

I applaud him for manning up on the homosexuality question.

The Christians who are bashing him as a "false teacher" are themselves out of order. Jesus has called us to "judge NO MAN." Who are WE to say who's a false/true teacher?! How very Pharisaical of us! Lord have mercy on those who bite and devour the brethran!
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Jud 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

God burned them once, He WILL do it again!
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Jud 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

God burned them once, He WILL do it again!
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No, sexual sin is a manifestation of what's happening in our hearts. God's word tells us our selfishness was at the root of what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah. Here's the reason Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed:

Ezekiel 16:49

"Now this was the iniquity of you sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, abundant food and comfortable security but didn't support the poor and the needy. They were haughty and did detastable things before Me, so I removed them when I saw this."
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Did Joel say this or did the LORD?
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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REPENT OR BURN IN HELL FOREVER!!!! God loves you.
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No, you're right. Don't repent and sin all day and create inequity amongst your neighbors. God doesn't mind. jerkit
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GREAT COMEBACK, OP! chuckle

Thanks for posting this letter! I was unaware of any Osteen "boat rocking". Glad to see he has spoken some truth in the midst of all of his lies!

We'll see what he does next! The last line of the letter is classic..."the angels are watching, both the good and the bad." damned
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Jud 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

God burned them once, He WILL do it again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246108


No, sexual sin is a manifestation of what's happening in our hearts. God's word tells us our selfishness was at the root of what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah. Here's the reason Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed:

Ezekiel 16:49

"Now this was the iniquity of you sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, abundant food and comfortable security but didn't support the poor and the needy. They were haughty and did detastable things before Me, so I removed them when I saw this."

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The love of money is the root of all evil in this world,

Lot of people would do anything for more money...
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
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I think of this man the same as I think of the rest of the TV religitard ripoffs.

I do not care for him, his wife or his ministry.

It's all about "buying" your way into heaven.

And we all know that ain't gonna happen.

TV religion is a lie and a ripoff.

Just sayn

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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973341

Joel Olsteen is a motivational speaker posing as a man of God. He does not teach the Bible or Biblical Truths, he only gives "feel good" messages as he leads millions of people away from Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1186745



Disagree folks. Osteen has his place in winning people to the Lord just as the 'burn in hell' guys that walk around Times Square with the sandwich boards on do. They scream that without Jesus you're going to hell and offend many people. Osteen's on the other end of that spectrum---nice, soft messages of hope. Many think the message is "too soft" but I think God uses him like he uses the hellfire and brimstone guys. I personally believe that Osteen's saved many from suicide and has done a wonderful work by showing people the LOVING, GOOD and KIND nature of God.

I applaud him for manning up on the homosexuality question.

The Christians who are bashing him as a "false teacher" are themselves out of order. Jesus has called us to "judge NO MAN." Who are WE to say who's a false/true teacher?! How very Pharisaical of us! Lord have mercy on those who bite and devour the brethran!
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You are telling me not to judge Joel Osteen. I'm not judging him. I'm discerning his message. Big difference between judging and discerning.

DISCERN spot: detect with the senses; "The fleeing convicts were picked out of the darkness by the watchful prison guards"; "I can't make out the faces in ...
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Nice try though.
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Here's another definition(s) for DISCERN:


1. To perceive with the eyes or intellect; detect.

2. To recognize or comprehend mentally.


That's not judging. Ty
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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He's a false teacher who tells weak Christians what they want to hear. The Bible even predicted people like him would lead many astray in the last days.

It's not too late for him to repent. God is merciful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973341

Joel Olsteen is a motivational speaker posing as a man of God. He does not teach the Bible or Biblical Truths, he only gives "feel good" messages as he leads millions of people away from Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1186745



Disagree folks. Osteen has his place in winning people to the Lord just as the 'burn in hell' guys that walk around Times Square with the sandwich boards on do. They scream that without Jesus you're going to hell and offend many people. Osteen's on the other end of that spectrum---nice, soft messages of hope. Many think the message is "too soft" but I think God uses him like he uses the hellfire and brimstone guys. I personally believe that Osteen's saved many from suicide and has done a wonderful work by showing people the LOVING, GOOD and KIND nature of God.

I applaud him for manning up on the homosexuality question.

The Christians who are bashing him as a "false teacher" are themselves out of order. Jesus has called us to "judge NO MAN." Who are WE to say who's a false/true teacher?! How very Pharisaical of us! Lord have mercy on those who bite and devour the brethran!
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The TV preachers are all in it for the $.
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joel is a world class dick as is his bitch of a wife
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ssages as he leads millions of people away from Jesus Christ.
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Disagree folks. Osteen has his place in winning people to the Lord just as the 'burn in hell' guys that walk around Times Square with the sandwich boards on do. They scream that without Jesus you're going to hell and offend many people. Osteen's on the other end of that spectrum---nice, soft messages of hope. Many think the message is "too soft" but I think God uses him like he uses the hellfire and brimstone guys. I personally believe that Osteen's saved many from suicide and has done a wonderful work by showing people the LOVING, GOOD and KIND nature of God.

I applaud him for manning up on the homosexuality question.

The Christians who are bashing him as a "false teacher" are themselves out of order. Jesus has called us to "judge NO MAN." Who are WE to say who's a false/true teacher?! How very Pharisaical of us! Lord have mercy on those who bite and devour the brethran!
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The burn in hell guys aren't working for the Lord either. Been around too many of them. There is no hell. people spreading all the false heaven and hell and god material, even if they "believe" are uneducated about God and thus spreading MAN'S tales. I see only nice soft manipulation with him. People do NOT need these types. GOD himself and the Hosts of Heaven have brought the word once again as promised before man's time is up on this planet at this time. This end of an evolutionary age of man. It goes ignored.

please try the Phoenix Journals, actually given by our Creator Son (GOD), under the name of Hatonn. He returned in 1954, he was that Christ. Also the Urantia Book, which goes into great detail on God and HEAVEN.

For everyday spiritual growth, also try A Course in Miracles, by "jesus christ" himself.
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What was he saying about Elton John?
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i think it's Sir Elton John
Take that Joel Osteen
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I watched the whole interview and even posted a thread giving a heads up that it woud air that night.

If you will be honest enough to know that some people are born gay then how can you say it's a sin?

shame on organized religion that puts blind acceptance of man tainted writings ahead of logic and common sense that screams "obvious" on a daily basis.

Pull your heads out people !!

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