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A discussion of the Watchers, Original Hybrids: Giants, Nephilim-- Alien technology-- Appearance of God

 
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from the Book of Enoch:

Note: the Watchers are NOT hybrids

Chapter 7

1It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

2And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

(3) An Aramaic text reads "Watchers" here (J.T. Milik, Aramaic Fragments of Qumran Cave 4 [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1976], p. 167).

3Then their leader Samyaza said to them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the performance of this enterprise;

4And that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime.

5But they answered him and said; We all swear;

6And bind ourselves by mutual execrations, that we will not change our intention, but execute our projected undertaking.

7Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual execrations. Their whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, (4) which is the top of mount Armon.

(4) Upon Ardis. Or, "in the days of Jared" (R.H. Charles, ed. and trans., The Book of Enoch [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1893], p. 63).

8That mountain therefore was called Armon, because they had sworn upon it, (5) and bound themselves by mutual execrations.

(5) Mt. Armon, or Mt. Hermon, derives its name from the Hebrew word herem, a curse (Charles, p. 63).

9These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them. (6)

(6) The Aramaic texts preserve an earlier list of names of these Watchers: Semihazah; Artqoph; Ramtel; Kokabel; Ramel; Danieal; Zeqiel; Baraqel; Asael; Hermoni; Matarel; Ananel; Stawel; Samsiel; Sahriel; Tummiel; Turiel; Yomiel; Yhaddiel (Milik, p. 151).

10Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and trees.

11And the women conceiving brought forth giants, (7)

(7) The Greek texts vary considerably from the Ethiopic text here. One Greek manuscript adds to this section, "And they [the women] bore to them [the Watchers] three races–first, the great giants. The giants brought forth [some say "slew"] the Naphelim, and the Naphelim brought forth [or "slew"] the Elioud. And they existed, increasing in power according to their greatness." See the account in the Book of Jubilees.


12Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;

13When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them;

14And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, (8) and to drink their blood.

(8) Their flesh one after another. Or, "one another’s flesh." R.H. Charles notes that this phrase may refer to the destruction of one class of giants by another (Charles, p. 65).

15Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.


Chapter 8

1Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered.

2Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways.

3Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots:

4Armers taught the solution of sorcery;

5Barkayal taught the observers of the stars, (9)

(9) Observers of the stars. Astrologers

6Akibeel taught signs;

7Tamiel taught astronomy;

8And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon,

9And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached to heaven.

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Chapter 9

1Then Michael and Gabriel, Raphael, Suryal, and Uriel, looked down from heaven, and saw the quantity of blood which was shed on earth, and all the iniquity which was done upon it, and said one to another, It is the voice of their cries;

2The earth deprived of her children has cried even to the gate of heaven.

3And now to you, O you holy one of heaven, the souls of men complain, saying, Obtain Justice for us with (10) the Most High. Then they said to their Lord, the King, You are Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings. The throne of your glory is for ever and ever, and for ever and ever is your name sanctified and glorified. You are blessed and glorified.

(10) Obtain justice for us with. Literally, "Bring judgment to us from." (Richard Laurence, ed. and trans., The Book of Enoch the Prophet [London: Kegan Paul, Trench & Co., 1883], p. 9).

4You have made all things; you possess power over all things; and all things are open and manifest before you. You behold all things, and nothing can be concealed from you.

5You have seen what Azazyel has done, how he has taught every species of iniquity upon earth, and has disclosed to the world all the secret things which are done in the heavens.

6Samyaza also has taught sorcery, to whom you have given authority over those who are associated with him. They have gone together to the daughters of men; have lain with them; have become polluted;

7And have discovered crimes (11) to them.

(11) Discovered crimes. Or, "revealed these sins" (Charles, p. 70).

8The women likewise have brought forth giants.
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interestingly enough there is NO chapter 11
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excerpt from Chap 14

9Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning impelled and pressed me forwards, while winds in the vision assisted my flight, accelerating my progress.

10They elevated me aloft to heaven. I proceeded, until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal. A vibrating flame (20) surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror.

(20) Vibrating flame. Literally, "a tongue of fire"

11Into this vibrating flame I entered;

12And drew nigh to a spacious habitation built also with stones of crystal. Its walls too, as well as pavement, were formed with stones of crystal, and crystal likewise was the ground. Its roof had the appearance of agitated stars and flashes of lightning; and among them were cherubim of fire in a stormy sky. (21) A flame burned around its walls; and its portal blazed with fire. When I entered into this dwelling, it was hot as fire and cold as ice. No trace of delight or of life was there. Terror overwhelmed me, and a fearful shaking seized me.

(21) In a stormy sky. Literally, "and their heaven was water" (Charles, p. 81).

13Violently agitated and trembling, I fell upon my face. In the vision I looked.

14And behold there was another habitation more spacious than the former, every entrance to which was open before me, erected in the midst of a vibrating flame.

15So greatly did it excel in all points, in glory, in magnificence, and in magnitude, that it is impossible to describe to you either the splendour or the extent of it.

16Its floor was on fire; above were lightnings and agitated stars, while its roof exhibited a blazing fire.

17Attentively I surveyed it, and saw that it contained an exalted throne;

18The appearance of which was like that of frost; while its circumference resembled the orb of the brilliant sun; and there was the voice of the cherubim.

19From underneath this mighty throne rivers of flaming fire issued.

20To look upon it was impossible.

21One great in glory sat upon it:

22Whose robe was brighter than the sun, and whiter than snow.

23No angel was capable of penetrating to view the face of Him, the Glorious and the Effulgent; nor could any mortal behold Him. A fire was flaming around Him.

24A fire also of great extent continued to rise up before Him; so that not one of those who surrounded Him was capable of approaching Him, among the myriads of myriads (22) who were before Him. To Him holy consultation was needless. Yet did not the sanctified, who were near Him, depart far from Him either by night or by day; nor were they removed from Him. I also was so far advanced, with a veil on my face, and trembling. Then the Lord with his own mouth called me, saying, Approach hither, Enoch, at my holy word.

(22) Myriads of myriads. Ten thousand times ten thousands (Knibb, p. 99).

25And He raised me up, making me draw near even to the entrance. My eye was directed to the ground.
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for the rest of these chapters, visit:
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You know pigs are a hybrid of man and wild boar don't you?
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You know pigs are a hybrid of man and wild boar don't you?
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are you serious?
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more detail on hybrids:

6But you from the beginning were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal, and not subject to death for ever.

7Therefore I made not wives for you, because, being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven.

8Now the giants, who have been born of spirit and of flesh, shall be called upon earth evil spirits, and on earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits shall proceed from their flesh, because they were created from above; from the holy Watchers was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits shall they be upon earth, and the spirits of the wicked shall they be called. The habitation of the spirits of heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial spirits, who are born on earth. (24)
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Chapter 20



1These are the names of the angels who watch.

2Uriel, one of the holy angels, who presides over clamor and terror.

3Raphael, one of the holy angels, who presides over the spirits of men.

4Raguel, one of the holy angels, who inflicts punishment on the world and the luminaries.

5Michael, one of the holy angels, who, presiding over human virtue, commands the nations.

6Sarakiel, one of the holy angels, who presides over the spirits of the children of men that transgress.

7Gabriel, one of the holy angels, who presides over Ikisat, (31) over paradise, and over the cherubim.

(31) Ikisat. The serpents (Charles, p. 92; Knibb, p. 107).
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"This is the first archon who took a great power from his mother. And he removed himself from her and moved away from the places in which he was born. He became strong and created for himself other aeons with a flame of luminous fire which (still) exists now. And he joined with his arrogance which is in him and begot authorities for himself. The name of the first one is Athoth, whom the generations call the reaper. The second one is Harmas, who is the eye of envy. The third one is Kalila-Oumbri. The fourth one is Yabel. The fifth one is Adonaiou, who is called Sabaoth. The sixth one is Cain, whom the generations of men call the sun. The seventh is Abel. The eighth is Abrisene. The ninth is Yobel. The tenth is Armoupieel. The eleventh is Melceir-Adonein. The twelfth is Belias, it is he who is over the depth of Hades. And he placed seven kings - each corresponding to the firmaments of heaven - over the seven heavens, and five over the depth of the abyss, that they may reign. And he shared his fire with them, but he did not send forth from the power of the light which he had taken from his mother, for he is ignorant darkness.

"And when the light had mixed with the darkness, it caused the darkness to shine. And when the darkness had mixed with the light, it darkened the light and it became neither light nor dark, but it became dim.

"Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come.

"And the archons created seven powers for themselves, and the powers created for themselves six angels for each one until they became 365 angels. And these are the bodies belonging with the names: the first is Athoth, a he has a sheep's face; the second is Eloaiou, he has a donkey's face; the third is Astaphaios, he has a hyena's face; the fourth is Yao, he has a serpent's face with seven heads; the fifth is Sabaoth, he has a dragon's face; the sixth is Adonin, he had a monkey's face; the seventh is Sabbede, he has a shining fire-face. This is the sevenness of the week.

"But Yaltabaoth had a multitude of faces, more than all of them, so that he could put a face before all of them, according to his desire, when he is in the midst of seraphs. He shared his fire with them; therefore he became lord over them. Because of the power of the glory he possessed of his mother's light, he called himself God. And he did not obey the place from which he came. And he united the seven powers in his thought with the authorities which were with him. And when he spoke it happened. And he named each power beginning with the highest: the first is goodness with the first (authority), Athoth; the second is foreknowledge with the second one, Eloaio; and the third is divinity with the third one, Astraphaio); the fourth is lordship with the fourth one, Yao; the fifth is kingdom with the fifth one, Sabaoth; the sixth is envy with the sixth one, Adonein; the seventh is understanding with the seventh one, Sabbateon. And these have a firmament corresponding to each aeon-heaven. They were given names according to the glory which belongs to heaven for the destruction of the powers. And in the names which were given to them by their Originator there was power. But the names which were given them according to the glory which belongs to heaven mean for them destruction and powerlessness. Thus they have two names.

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why did you include this gnostic text?

i do not subscribe to gnostic writings, personally...

please explain your reasoning.
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I wonder if more is being communicated here than surface knowledge. One of those "eyes to see" or "domain shift" things.
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why did you include this gnostic text?

i do not subscribe to gnostic writings, personally...

please explain your reasoning.
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Pleas explain why you accept Enoch and not The Apocryphon of John....




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why did you include this gnostic text?

i do not subscribe to gnostic writings, personally...

please explain your reasoning.
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Pleas explain why you accept Enoch and not The Apocryphon of John....




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through many years of study and analysis, i do not regard ANY of the New Testament apocryphals.
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through many years of study and analysis, i do not regard ANY of the New Testament apocryphals.
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I was about to post that it was a veritable GLP then with all the non-canonical NT stuff!

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You know pigs are a hybrid of man and wild boar don't you?
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are you serious?
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Well yes I am. Ever looked at a pigs eyes?

Know that they use pig organs in people?

Ever wonder why GOD in the old testiment wasn't into pork products?
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You know pigs are a hybrid of man and wild boar don't you?
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are you serious?
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Well yes I am. Ever looked at a pigs eyes?

Know that they use pig organs in people?

Ever wonder why GOD in the old testiment wasn't into pork products?
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whoa... i don't agree with you, but that's ok.

linky?
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Forgive me for the brashness. I'm not the only one to know this however and since you brought it up with your post I thought it should be reviewed.

Sorry don't know of a link but you could ask Steve Quayle or James Lloyd about it.

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Forgive me for the brashness. I'm not the only one to know this however and since you brought it up with your post I thought it should be reviewed.
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i am not dismissing your post, but the reasons for not eating pork had nothing to do with the fact that they are part human.

and how does this tie into the topic of this thread?

thanks.
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You know pigs are a hybrid of man and wild boar don't you?
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are you serious?
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Well yes I am. Ever looked at a pigs eyes?

Know that they use pig organs in people?

Ever wonder why GOD in the old testiment wasn't into pork products?
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GOD can't eat. GOD is pure energy, what does HE need a pig for? How idiotic.
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Please explain why you accept Enoch and not The Apocryphon of John....




through many years of study and analysis, i do not regard ANY of the New Testament apocryphals.
 Quoting: Salt & Light



With all those years- can you please explain what you disagree with regarding The Apocryphon of John?





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Forgive me for the brashness. I'm not the only one to know this however and since you brought it up with your post I thought it should be reviewed.
 Quoting: ashesand sackcloth


i am not dismissing your post, but the reasons for not eating pork had nothing to do with the fact that they are part human.

and how does this tie into the topic of this thread?

thanks.
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Hybrids and Nephilim. Think it's obvious.
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Please explain why you accept Enoch and not The Apocryphon of John....




through many years of study and analysis, i do not regard ANY of the New Testament apocryphals.
 Quoting: Salt & Light



With all those years- can you please explain what you disagree with regarding The Apocryphon of John?





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in a phrase... the entire book is entirely in opposition to God's word.
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Forgive me for the brashness. I'm not the only one to know this however and since you brought it up with your post I thought it should be reviewed.
 Quoting: ashesand sackcloth


i am not dismissing your post, but the reasons for not eating pork had nothing to do with the fact that they are part human.

and how does this tie into the topic of this thread?

thanks.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


Hybrids and Nephilim. Think it's obvious.
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thank you. the hybrids being discussed here are between fallen angels and humans.
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Forgive me for the brashness. I'm not the only one to know this however and since you brought it up with your post I thought it should be reviewed.
 Quoting: ashesand sackcloth


i am not dismissing your post, but the reasons for not eating pork had nothing to do with the fact that they are part human.

and how does this tie into the topic of this thread?

thanks.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


Hybrids and Nephilim. Think it's obvious.
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There's a lot of hybrids in New York right now
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Yes well I though it tied in nicely. Sorry you don't.
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Yes well I though it tied in nicely. Sorry you don't.
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i do not dismiss your posts, and appreciate them. thank you for participating
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"What does God need with a starship?"-James Tiberius Kirk.
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Please explain why you accept Enoch and not The Apocryphon of John....




through many years of study and analysis, i do not regard ANY of the New Testament apocryphals.
 Quoting: Salt & Light



With all those years- can you please explain what you disagree with regarding The Apocryphon of John?





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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



in a phrase... the entire book is entirely in opposition to God's word.
 Quoting: Salt & Light




Entirely?

do you have an example?




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Please explain why you accept Enoch and not The Apocryphon of John....




through many years of study and analysis, i do not regard ANY of the New Testament apocryphals.
 Quoting: Salt & Light



With all those years- can you please explain what you disagree with regarding The Apocryphon of John?


Who says that's not the true version of the story? The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he is the true God.


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in a phrase... the entire book is entirely in opposition to God's word.
 Quoting: Salt & Light




Entirely?

do you have an example?




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With all those years- can you please explain what you disagree with regarding The Apocryphon of John?


Who says that's not the true version of the story? The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he is the true God.


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



in a phrase... the entire book is entirely in opposition to God's word.
 Quoting: Salt & Light



Who says that's not the true version of the story? The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he is the true God.

sorry screwed up the post
Entirely?

do you have an example?




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