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A discussion of the Watchers, Original Hybrids: Giants, Nephilim-- Alien technology-- Appearance of God

 
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wrong again...

what does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
 Quoting: Salt & Light


not....

conception precedes creation....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


prove this point with something other than gnostic texts
 Quoting: Salt & Light


take the subject of religion out of the discussion of 'conception v creation' all together....

parents conceive children, then the children create themselves....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


wrong in every way possible.

God weaves us together in the mother's womb. Children in no way create themselves.
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wrong again...

what does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
 Quoting: Salt & Light


not....

conception precedes creation....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


prove this point with something other than gnostic texts
 Quoting: Salt & Light


take the subject of religion out of the discussion of 'conception v creation' all together....

parents conceive children, then the children create themselves....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Ok...I give up. Nice try S&L. These deceivers are relentless.
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Isn't it interesting - from the website you are quoting as your reliable source of knowledge
[link to atkinslightquest.com] :


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that is not the only source....

besides....why are you so obsessed with proper nouns ??
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..Don't know why you and others are trying so hard to derail an interesting thread. Please take your topic(s) of discussion to another thread.
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The OP was politely asked if her understanding of Jesus was appropriate.





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not....

conception precedes creation....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


prove this point with something other than gnostic texts
 Quoting: Salt & Light


take the subject of religion out of the discussion of 'conception v creation' all together....

parents conceive children, then the children create themselves....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Ok...I give up. Nice try S&L. These deceivers are relentless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


i hear you. annoying and frustrating. but, it is not them, it is the deceiver within them who hates this thread and wants to send it down.
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the validity of both
religion and science, experiential religion, open-minded recognition of many sources of
truth,

 Quoting: me777


sounds like a very considerate person....

many sources of truth is the what the God of Genesis wants....said so directly....
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not....

conception precedes creation....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


prove this point with something other than gnostic texts
 Quoting: Salt & Light


take the subject of religion out of the discussion of 'conception v creation' all together....

parents conceive children, then the children create themselves....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Ok...I give up. Nice try S&L. These deceivers are relentless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


just exactly how is that deception ??
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..Don't know why you and others are trying so hard to derail an interesting thread. Please take your topic(s) of discussion to another thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553



The OP was politely asked if her understanding of Jesus was appropriate.

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LOL! Comprehension Fail.
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the validity of both
religion and science, experiential religion, open-minded recognition of many sources of
truth,

 Quoting: me777


sounds like a very considerate person....

many sources of truth is the what the God of Genesis wants....said so directly....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


wrong again seven ways from sunday...

there can only be ONE truth.

Jesus is the way, truth and life.... period.

you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.
there cannot be more than one final truth.
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prove this point with something other than gnostic texts
 Quoting: Salt & Light


take the subject of religion out of the discussion of 'conception v creation' all together....

parents conceive children, then the children create themselves....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Ok...I give up. Nice try S&L. These deceivers are relentless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


i hear you. annoying and frustrating. but, it is not them, it is the deceiver within them who hates this thread and wants to send it down.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


huh ??

only pure evil seeks to cut tongues....
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the validity of both
religion and science, experiential religion, open-minded recognition of many sources of
truth,

 Quoting: me777


sounds like a very considerate person....

many sources of truth is the what the God of Genesis wants....said so directly....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


wrong again seven ways from sunday...

there can only be ONE truth.

Jesus is the way, truth and life.... period.

you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.
there cannot be more than one final truth.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


sorry....God....Jesus' boss....said directly that human language is to be confused....because God does not want 'one single way'....

Genesis 11:7
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you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.

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huh ??

please....

that statement alone insults basic human intelligence....
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it is the deceiver within them
 Quoting: Salt & Light



That is quite an accusation.

Can you back it up with any falsehood posted on your thread?





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the validity of both
religion and science, experiential religion, open-minded recognition of many sources of
truth,

 Quoting: me777


sounds like a very considerate person....

many sources of truth is the what the God of Genesis wants....said so directly....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


wrong again seven ways from sunday...

there can only be ONE truth.

Jesus is the way, truth and life.... period.

you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.
there cannot be more than one final truth.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


sorry....God....Jesus' boss....said directly that human language is to be confused....because God does not want 'one single way'....

Genesis 11:7

 Quoting: Sugarelf


well... that ladies and gentlemen...takes the cake.

wrong again in 1000 ways.

your ignorance on this subject is incredible.

God is Jesus' boss, people.... you heard it here first. LOLOL

human language was confused to prevent taking focus off of God, not to show that there are many ways TO God.

go read a little, you might learn a thing or two, my dear.
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it is the deceiver within them
 Quoting: Salt & Light



That is quite an accusation.

Can you back it up with any falsehood posted on your thread?





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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


i am sorry, but you are out of here. you were warned.
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you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.

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huh ??

please....

that statement alone insults basic human intelligence....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Fortunately I'm not all that concerned with "basic human intelligence".

Higher intelligence has told us there's only one way.

Take it or leave it.

Apparently you've made that choice.
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nor are the answers only for a select group.


next...
 Quoting: Salt & Light


<snip>
Do you disagree that this is most likely a 'select' group?...

44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him






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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


<snip>
 Quoting: Salt & Light



Op- Did you understand the question regarding the 'select' group?





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human language was confused to prevent taking focus off of God, not to show that there are many ways TO God.

go read a little, you might learn a thing or two, my dear.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


ok....show EXACTLY where that is the reason why....

that is NOT what Genesis 11 states whatsoever....

besides, Genesis 11 shows where God wants many ways....not many ways 'to God'....
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human language was confused to prevent taking focus off of God, not to show that there are many ways TO God.

go read a little, you might learn a thing or two, my dear.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


ok....show EXACTLY where that is the reason why....

that is NOT what Genesis 11 states whatsoever....

besides, Genesis 11 shows where God wants many ways....not many ways 'to God'....
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i don't even know where to begin helping your line of thinking.

anyone want to try to help this person?
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you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.

 Quoting: Salt & Light


huh ??

please....

that statement alone insults basic human intelligence....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Fortunately I'm not all that concerned with "basic human intelligence".

Higher intelligence has told us there's only one way.

Take it or leave it.

Apparently you've made that choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


wrong....wrong on so many levels....

there are always two....ALWAYS

what is the very first thing God does in the Bible ??

two....God made two things....
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human language was confused to prevent taking focus off of God, not to show that there are many ways TO God.

go read a little, you might learn a thing or two, my dear.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


ok....show EXACTLY where that is the reason why....

that is NOT what Genesis 11 states whatsoever....

besides, Genesis 11 shows where God wants many ways....not many ways 'to God'....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


i don't even know where to begin helping your line of thinking.

anyone want to try to help this person?
 Quoting: Salt & Light


help me ??

I am closer to God than you possibly imagine....

Matthew 6:9
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you cannot travel many roads and get to one destination.

 Quoting: Salt & Light


huh ??

please....

that statement alone insults basic human intelligence....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Fortunately I'm not all that concerned with "basic human intelligence".

Higher intelligence has told us there's only one way.

Take it or leave it.

Apparently you've made that choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


wrong....wrong on so many levels....

there are always two....ALWAYS

what is the very first thing God does in the Bible ??

two....God made two things....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Well, technically I guess there are two ways. The Law (Torah) lived perfectly or Christ. Since Christ is the only person EVER to achieve the former, I suggest you put your trust in the latter.
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huh ??

please....

that statement alone insults basic human intelligence....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Fortunately I'm not all that concerned with "basic human intelligence".

Higher intelligence has told us there's only one way.

Take it or leave it.

Apparently you've made that choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


wrong....wrong on so many levels....

there are always two....ALWAYS

what is the very first thing God does in the Bible ??

two....God made two things....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Well, technically I guess there are two ways. The Law (Torah) lived perfectly or Christ. Since Christ is the only person EVER to achieve the former, I suggest you put your trust in the latter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


i trust in all....everything....

i am way beyond 'choices'....
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BACK to the subject at hand...

I am not certain what to make of the titles "giants" and "nephillim".... how are they different?

I think they are the same... so why call them one thing "giants" and at other places call them "Nephillim"???

Are they two different groups?/beings?
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Fortunately I'm not all that concerned with "basic human intelligence".

Higher intelligence has told us there's only one way.

Take it or leave it.

Apparently you've made that choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


wrong....wrong on so many levels....

there are always two....ALWAYS

what is the very first thing God does in the Bible ??

two....God made two things....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Well, technically I guess there are two ways. The Law (Torah) lived perfectly or Christ. Since Christ is the only person EVER to achieve the former, I suggest you put your trust in the latter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553


i trust in all....everything....

i am way beyond 'choices'....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


good for you dear.

Yes...back to the thread topic. Please.
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BACK to the subject at hand...

I am not certain what to make of the titles "giants" and "nephillim".... how are they different?

I think they are the same... so why call them one thing "giants" and at other places call them "Nephillim"???

Are they two different groups?/beings?
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i think there are two different groups. two results, both hybrids, both from fallen ones. actually there is a third, can't remember the name right now, something like Elioud.
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i trust in all....everything....

i am way beyond 'choices'....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


hope that plan works out for you.
my advice.... that plan is fail
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BACK to the subject at hand...

I am not certain what to make of the titles "giants" and "nephillim".... how are they different?

I think they are the same... so why call them one thing "giants" and at other places call them "Nephillim"???

Are they two different groups?/beings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1240865


i think there are two different groups. two results, both hybrids, both from fallen ones. actually there is a third, can't remember the name right now, something like Elioud.
 Quoting: Salt & Light

From the OP:

(7) The Greek texts vary considerably from the Ethiopic text here. One Greek manuscript adds to this section, "And they [the women] bore to them [the Watchers] three races–first, the great giants. The giants brought forth [some say "slew"] the Naphelim, and the Naphelim brought forth [or "slew"] the Elioud. And they existed, increasing in power according to their greatness." See the account in the Book of Jubilees.
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 Quoting: Salt & Light



i do not reject the OT apocryphals because the reason they were removed had to do with the prophecy and detailed description of Jesus.

i guess that makes me unique.

the essence and usage of the books does not oppose the word of God.

the NT apocs are in strong opposition and the credibility of the author's are in serious question.


OP, can you provide a reference for the above highlighted quote? That would be very helpful in my personal study. Thank you.


there are many good books on the subject, one that comes to mind is titled: Fallen Angels and the Origin of Evil, by Elizabeth Clare Prophet. Another: The Forgotten Books of Eden, Rutherford H. Platt, Jr. These two I have read last year... secular books but good info. There are many many on the subject, and a simple google search should satisfy.


Todah, Salt & Light.
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thank you....

i always gloss over the footnotes...
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