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I am about to be a father. How do I avoid my child from having to take vaccines. This is serious. Please help

 
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OP, both of my kids were born in california. I refused all vaccines and signed waivers for schools. You have to show you know your rights and stand firm and there won't be any problems. Both of my kids today are teens and perfectly healthy. They never had to take antibiotics either and never had any issues except a few quick flus that lasted at most a day.
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Just don't do it OP. When the doctor asks if your child is current on all vaccinations say "yes" and ignore them.

I didn't vaccinate my daughter and once had to take her to the emergency room for an injury. The doctor asked me if she was current on her vaccinations and I said "no" I don't vaccinate. He preceded to tell me that he didn't want his child in school with my un-vaccinated child. I looked at him and said "if your kid is vaccinated what do you have to worry about?" He turned red and left the room..
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That is chilling coming from a doctor. Either the vaccines ARE USELESS or doctors really believe the necessity without the logic of why? When he realized his lack of logic, red-face and retreat. Are all doctors that push this stuff THAT HEAVY into the party line of medical school and BIG-PHARMA?
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Had an older retired doc tell us that doctors today are very stubborn and unreasonable because of medical school. They have been trained this way and they have a lot of trouble thinking outside the box.
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Look up exemptions in your state. Most states at least, have religious exemptions. Keep them out of daycare.
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Most daycares won't accept unvaccinated kids.

I got my kids tetanus shots so my mom wouldn't freak out.
That was about it.
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that is one shot i would get them but they don't need it until they are much older.
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You know, you are going to get alot of support from the people who frequent this forum in your stance to refuse vaccinations. I also understand your wanting to protect your children from what you fear might be either unwanted risks, or that something subversive is actually being done.

I am all for fighting the system, seeking truth, and underanding the big control scheme we live under. However, I have to say that when it comes to vaccines, you should get them. The health risk of NOT getting vacccines far outweighs the chance that a negative side effect will occur, assuming that is your fear. If instead, it is a fear that something subversive is being done under the cover of vaccines, I'm afraid that is paranoia, and you shouldn't put your child at risk due to your paranoia.

Bottom line, there is a better chance that your child we become ill or die due to not getting vaccines, than there is something bad will happen if they do. Are you really ready to live with that? Are you that sure of your facts?
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Before birth and during, just tell them you are a Jehovah's Witness and it’s against your religion. Just to back yourself up, do a little studying on Jehovah’s Witnesses and their religious beliefs on vaccinations.
Most hospitals know this religion and also know it’s pointless to argue with these people because they’re stubborn and work in groups, too much of a hassle for one could result in a hospital full of people should they give you too much trouble, it’s not worth it to them for the fight.
So in essence you’re calling their bluff, they’ll give in and you’ll win.

For school just print and fill out an HRS Form 681, which is a “Religious Exemption From Immunizations” form. Have it signed by your local HRS county public health unit director, his administrator or authorized designee.
Show it to anyone who asks for proof of vaccinations.

Also don’t do circumcision.
Watch a few videos and you’ll see why.
No helpless baby or adult deserves that kind of treatment.
They don’t use anything to numb; heartless.
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You don't have to be a member of any religion to use the religion exemption.

And it is not against the Jehovah's Witness religion to vaccinate their children. It is up to the individual just like other religions. You must be thinking of Christian Scientist who don't do anything medical.
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You can't if you want to send them to public school. In fact, some colleges require it. The military requires it. It's pretty much impossible.

having said that, I have 7 kids and 15 grand kids all of whom have been vaccinated with no problems. BUT ... I understand your chagrin.
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You can't if you want to send them to public school. In fact, some colleges require it. The military requires it. It's pretty much impossible.

having said that, I have 7 kids and 15 grand kids all of whom have been vaccinated with no problems. BUT ... I understand your chagrin.
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They can go to public school. He just needs to sign a religious exemption and they can go.

And by the time the child is ready to go to college or the military they can make up their own mind as to what to do.

At least he can wait a few years before vaccinating if he wants to. It is just not a good thing to shoot up a newborn with mercury and aluminum etc.
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I also am one who did not like to get my children vaacinated but had no choice. It was either that or home schooling with no option for daycare.

Thank God they do not require the flu vaacination because my son had an allergic reaction to the H1N1 mist. But of coarse the ER treated it as an allergic reaction and then told me that it was not a reaction.

Weirdest thing....I sat there during the reaction and watched his eyes turn green (almost a neon green). Then about 2 weeks later I found a shark DNA was used in that vaacination....and that shark had neon green eyes!!!!! NO JOKE....I am telling the truth!

OP...I understand how you feel, but it is forced. The flu is not and I will NEVER get it for my children or myself again...whether it is the regular flu vac or the H1N1
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if you live in California, there is a waver to opt out of vaccines legally
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Op, if you have a son, don't circumcise him, that will damage him mentally for life in ways you'll never fully comprehend. You got more than just the vaccines to worry about. Just saying.
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California - [link to www.gval.com] (California Health and Safety Code Section 120365). This is the "personal beliefs" exemption in California law.

The exemption is fairly easy to exercise. Each student in California is required to submit a "California School Immunization Record" to be admitted to school (California Health and Safety Code Section 12-375).

On the reverse of the form is the following statement: "I hereby request exemption of the child, named in the front, from the immunization requirements for school/child care center entry because these immunizations are contrary to my beliefs. I understand that in case of an outbreak of any of these diseases, the child may be temporarily excluded from school for his/her protection." To exercise the exemption, you simply sign the immunization record under this statement.

There is another exemption which is available, although it is more difficult to exercise because a medical opinion is necessary. If immunization is "contraindicated", that is, considered to be potentially harmful to the child for medical reasons, an exemption is granted upon the filing with of "a written statement by a licensed physician to the effect that the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances that contraindicate immunization..." (California Health and Safety Code Section 120370).

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say it is aganist your religon
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You know, you are going to get alot of support from the people who frequent this forum in your stance to refuse vaccinations. I also understand your wanting to protect your children from what you fear might be either unwanted risks, or that something subversive is actually being done.

I am all for fighting the system, seeking truth, and underanding the big control scheme we live under. However, I have to say that when it comes to vaccines, you should get them. The health risk of NOT getting vacccines far outweighs the chance that a negative side effect will occur, assuming that is your fear. If instead, it is a fear that something subversive is being done under the cover of vaccines, I'm afraid that is paranoia, and you shouldn't put your child at risk due to your paranoia.

Bottom line, there is a better chance that your child we become ill or die due to not getting vaccines, than there is something bad will happen if they do. Are you really ready to live with that? Are you that sure of your facts?
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This is not true, there has been lots of studies done on this, children are no less susceptible to getting a illness with a vaccine than without, in fact children who DO NOT get vaccines are much healthier with less chronic illness..

[link to childhealthsafety.wordpress.com]
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Go to www.homefirst.com

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein is an expert regarding this. He's not only a doctor but a lawyer as well

most states allow for religious beliefs as a reason for vaccinating children. And thank god we still have freedom of religion in this country, even though I'm agnostic
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[link to articles.mercola.com]
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OP, both of my kids were born in california. I refused all vaccines and signed waivers for schools. You have to show you know your rights and stand firm and there won't be any problems. Both of my kids today are teens and perfectly healthy. They never had to take antibiotics either and never had any issues except a few quick flus that lasted at most a day.
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In addition OP, if you are are an expecting father, if at all possible make sure your wife breast feeds for at least the first year and avoid formula cause its synthetic garbage. This is very important to allow the newborn to develop a strong immune system,

Don't listen to naysayers cause they are either ignorant, have an agenda or are full of fears.
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Bottom line, there is a better chance that your child we become ill or die due to not getting vaccines, than there is something bad will happen if they do. Are you really ready to live with that? Are you that sure of your facts?
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if his child becomes autistic after getting vaccinated-
is he ready to live with that ?
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LOL I HOPE YOUR CHILD GETS SMALLPOX, POLO, SARS, AND EVERY OTHER DISEASES I AM IMMUNE TO BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE NOT INBRED FUCKING HICKS LIKE YOU.
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LOL I HOPE YOUR CHILD GETS SMALLPOX, POLO, SARS, AND EVERY OTHER DISEASES I AM IMMUNE TO BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE NOT INBRED FUCKING HICKS LIKE YOU.
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proof of brain-damage
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LOL I HOPE YOUR CHILD GETS SMALLPOX, POLO, SARS, AND EVERY OTHER DISEASES I AM IMMUNE TO BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE NOT INBRED FUCKING HICKS LIKE YOU.
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proof of brain-damage
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Brain damage? I think this guy has brain damage. You shouldn't be a father and i hope your child gets taken away from you, or dies slowly from a diseases if you dont get them vaccinated
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OP with all of our children we told them no shots except for the vitamins. They got the vitamin K shot and there was one other but I don't remember which one now. Our kids are teenagers now and have not had any problems. My parents gave me one round of shots when I was born and then I never got any other ones. That was more than 40 years ago now. I attended public schools and have traveled all over the world and have never had a problem. When asked in the past about shots I just said too bad.

Our kids attend public schools and again we tell the school too bad, no shots for our kids.

There is no legal requirement yet to get the shots.


I need the best information I can get on how to get out of letting these sick monsters put needles in my child. What do I do ? . Please help. God bless.
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My first child had a severe reaction to her first dpt shot 26 yrs ago. The dr. suggested that any future children not get the vaccine, and of course she never got another. When we had to put them in school I had to get the hospital record with a written document from my dr. (we had moved out of state) and fill out an exemption form for my daughter, when my other kids were old enough I just had to fill out the exemption form and put refer to first child documentation. Never had any issues with them getting into college, I dont even think they asked for immunization records.
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LOL I HOPE YOUR CHILD GETS SMALLPOX, POLO, SARS, AND EVERY OTHER DISEASES I AM IMMUNE TO BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE NOT INBRED FUCKING HICKS LIKE YOU.
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proof of brain-damage
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Brain damage? I think this guy has brain damage. You shouldn't be a father and i hope your child gets taken away from you, or dies slowly from a diseases if you dont get them vaccinated
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Yes you are brain damaged, you are proving it with every post. Case closed. Wishing harm on people - and in your case an innocent child - for exercising caution and research before allowing poison to be injected in their bodies is pretty much something only a psychopathic person would be capable of. Or perhaps you are projecting? I get the feeling you are resentful because you failed to exercise due caution before being injected and therefore lashing out at others who are.
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LOL I HOPE YOUR CHILD GETS SMALLPOX, POLO, SARS, AND EVERY OTHER DISEASES I AM IMMUNE TO BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE NOT INBRED FUCKING HICKS LIKE YOU.
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proof of brain-damage
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Brain damage? I think this guy has brain damage. You shouldn't be a father and i hope your child gets taken away from you, or dies slowly from a diseases if you dont get them vaccinated
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What the fuck?

P.G. asked for help, not for people to rip them for standing up for what they believe in.

It's not our damn fault if you take everything shoved at you at face value. Infact, it's quite the opposite. You don't think to give things scrutiny.

And screw you for wishing ill on a child. You exemplify what is wrong with this world. The little children of the world are the last bit of hope we have. They are innocent. I'm trying like as hard as I can in order to stop from unleashing all hell on your heartless ass. Screw each and every one of you that would wish ill upon his child. Thats so fucking sick...I can't comprehend how anybody would do such a thing.


P.G. the best I can tell ya is what many posters have mentioned. Religious exemption is probably going to be your best bet. Follow that up with stating you or your wife are allergic to eggs. Eggs are used to grow some vaccines. But, if your child is born at a hospital you attend...they may take the low road and snoop into your medical records. HIPPA laws should protect against such, so if this happens...get in touch with your lawyer very quickly. As a matter of fact, you may want to call a few in the morning to see if they'd back you up on standing your ground with regards to not having your child vaccinated. Then go to the National Vaccine Information Center and print off every document that supports your right to your decision.

You're going to want to present a real solid and organized argument. Keeping the "lawyer card" in your back pocket will also make them a bit more likely to try to push it...if for no other reason than the very fact that you could potentially hit them where it hurts the most....in the pocket book.

Make them aware before the child is born and they can wisk him or her off out of your sight that your child *will not* be getting vaccinated. Some are given right after they are born. I wish you the very best. Present a solid and unified mind-set with your other half, and you guys should prevail.
I'm just a figment of your imagination ;-)
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LOL I HOPE YOUR CHILD GETS SMALLPOX, POLO, SARS, AND EVERY OTHER DISEASES I AM IMMUNE TO BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE NOT INBRED FUCKING HICKS LIKE YOU.
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proof of brain-damage
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Brain damage? I think this guy has brain damage. You shouldn't be a father and i hope your child gets taken away from you, or dies slowly from a diseases if you dont get them vaccinated
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Wishing for the theft of a child or the death of a child? That is sick.
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Say it like you mean it!!! Don't say no I don't think I'm going to get their vaccines today, say NO I DON'T VACCINATE! Dn't leave no room for them to wiggle their way into your decision! God bless.
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good luck with your goal of no vaccines. please be sure to look here for very good information about natural health, and you might also find people in this organization you can network with regarding going without shots:

www.westonaprice.org

circumsision should also be avoided IMO
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I need the best information I can get on how to get out of letting these sick monsters put needles in my child. What do I do ? . Please help. God bless.
 Quoting: Pineal Gland



I just say no, I don't vaccinate my kids. For school, I needed a religious exemption form, but for the doctors, I just refuse it.
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Don't be a dumbfuck

Learn to evaluate risk

Get your child vaccinated

Great jumping monkey fucks you people are dumb
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Sorry to hear, hope your child lucks out
otherwise let him/her "Rest in Peace".
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