real egyptians were white , new proof , blacks have stolen our heritage | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4044508 11/01/2011 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Think about it this way, all great ancient civilizations have been built by supposed gods who brought knowledge from somewhere else. Sometimes they would teach the natives how to build the civilizations and then go back to where they came from, leaving the natives with the instructions and precepts to keep it functioning (case of mesoamerica), while some others stayed and ruled the civilizations until they either pass away and their lineages became dilluted by interbreeding with the natives, bringing the demise of the civilization. Sub-saharan negroid Africa never had enough advanced civilizations to be able to claim a civilizing pattern. In fact the mere fact that they cling so badly to Ancient Egypt, which any initiate in the mysteries knows was the refuge for Atlantean survivors, indicate their argument for their own civilizing factor is just ludicrous. If they could show me at least a dozen "ancient Egypts" in sub-saharan Africa, I'd may consider it, but nothing of the sort? Not even one little civilization that resembles it? I guess those suppossed negroes who built Egypt must have been EXCEPTIONAL. Nah, life just doesn't work that way. The dogon tribe. Their herioglyphs are parallell to that of the Ancient Egyptians. The heiroglyphs describe the workings of the universe. I dont see any white atlanteans there old fellow. Give me PHYSICAL EVIDENCE from the PAST that the ancient egyptians were white, not some biased studies where you havent the slightest clue where they came from. The dogon tribe has knowledge of outer space which no one knows really where they got from, and I don't want to delve on far out theories, but let's agree they didn't got it by themselves either. Other than that those people didn't build ANYTHING of such magnitude as the AE's, so fallacious argument there bro. And stop asking me for evidence about whites in ancient egypt, many people in this thread already have shown enough evidence for you to keep asking for it. Reality hits you hard bro. no, we do not agree on that. There is no evidence the Dogons received any assistance. A white man failed to translate the heiroglyphs correctly (the rosetta stone) and led almost all egyptologists astray. Many articles regarding the HERIOGLYPHS are completely FALSE because of ONE MAN. Same goes for the race of these people. Initiates traveled far and wide to egypt, which explains the mummies, but look at the artifacts, it will show who FOUNDED it. The evidence is right in front of you despite your pompous words. and there are plenty of black mummies, your bias blinds you. [url] [link to www.archaeology.org] and if yall want to talk about the curse of ham, let's talk about it. What does this curse entail exactly? Actually that is a lie. There has NEVER been a black mummy found in the ROYAL tombs of Egypt. The only black mummy that has ever been found in the valley of the kings, was a Nubian prince that was an Egyptian slave. Why don't you post us some pictures of BLACK ROYAL mummies. You'll quickly find that none of the black mummies were found in the royal Egyptian tombs. Again the facts trip you up. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4044508 11/01/2011 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no human being could remain "white skinned" in the climate of Egypt! Ah yes... the old "weather changes your race" crowd. Quaint, but it just doesn't work that way. It's true. I'm from South Africa and have a nice tan. My ancestors had been in Africa for over 300 years. I am still however a Caucasian with blue eyes. Sunlight cannot change your race. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2767028 11/01/2011 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no human being could remain "white skinned" in the climate of Egypt! Ah yes... the old "weather changes your race" crowd. Quaint, but it just doesn't work that way. Um...it's called Continental drift. You should look it up. We learned about that in 10th grade. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 4208151 11/01/2011 05:27 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doubt many races have been through Egypt, but Egypt was named after Egyptus who was the wife of Ham, she was reportedly a black woman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4411203 Reportedly meaning myth. Look at the genetic evidence, for those are the facts. As I said before you don't even need to look towards DNA; the mere fact that there hasn't been any negroid cultures who undoubtedly erected great civilizations such as AE already brings a strong argument on the implausibility that negroids could all of the suddent have come up with such grand, mysterious civilization out of the blue. In fact, Ancient Sumer, Babylon and Egypt, just couldn't have been the result of the natural evolution of the races that inhabited those areas. They simply possessed a knowledge that logic tells us required to have been of a much more ancient provenience. And they were: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Manu-Koelbren on 11/01/2011 05:27 AM "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 957156 11/01/2011 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no human being could remain "white skinned" in the climate of Egypt! Ah yes... the old "weather changes your race" crowd. Quaint, but it just doesn't work that way. It's true. I'm from South Africa and have a nice tan. My ancestors had been in Africa for over 300 years. I am still however a Caucasian with blue eyes. Sunlight cannot change your race. I know. I have friends in Florida. They have yet to change into Negroes. Still waiting, though. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 957156 11/01/2011 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no human being could remain "white skinned" in the climate of Egypt! Ah yes... the old "weather changes your race" crowd. Quaint, but it just doesn't work that way. Um...it's called Continental drift. You should look it up. We learned about that in 10th grade. What you learned, and what is reality is 2 different things. Climate will not change a persons race. |
| Ha Moshiach User ID: 1500923 11/01/2011 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 4208151 11/01/2011 05:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. Quoting: Ha Moshiach 1500923 ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. They weren't necessarily blonde and blue eyed, most caucasian peoples in the world are in fact not of those traits. [link to pilgrimshandicrafts.com] compare [link to www.fitsnews.com] Last Edited by Manu-Koelbren on 11/01/2011 05:46 AM "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1500923 11/01/2011 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. Quoting: Ha Moshiach 1500923 ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. They weren't necessarily blonde and blue eyed, most caucasian peoples in the world are in fact not of those traits. [link to pilgrimshandicrafts.com] Soooooooooooooo you're saying what? |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 4208151 11/01/2011 05:46 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. Quoting: Ha Moshiach 1500923 ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. They weren't necessarily blonde and blue eyed, most caucasian peoples in the world are in fact not of those traits. [link to pilgrimshandicrafts.com] Soooooooooooooo you're saying what? I edited my post. Check it out. "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Ha Moshiach User ID: 1500923 11/01/2011 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. Quoting: Ha Moshiach 1500923 ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. They weren't necessarily blonde and blue eyed, most caucasian peoples in the world are in fact not of those traits. [link to pilgrimshandicrafts.com] Soooooooooooooo you're saying what? Oh you wanted me to look at the ppl BEHIND her or BESIDE her. That's not even her Egyptian name- AUSET is. Can I get an original plz...not one color coded! |
| Ha Moshiach User ID: 1500923 11/01/2011 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. Quoting: Ha Moshiach 1500923 ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. They weren't necessarily blonde and blue eyed, most caucasian peoples in the world are in fact not of those traits. [link to pilgrimshandicrafts.com] Soooooooooooooo you're saying what? Oh you wanted me to look at the ppl BEHIND her or BESIDE her. That's not even her Egyptian name- AUSET is. Can I get an original plz...not one color coded! May I also add, ALL THE GODS OF ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS WERE OF COLOR. Every single ONE! In fact, most of the names were meant to mean BLACK. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2767028 11/01/2011 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it all goes down to Homo Erectus ancestry and Homo Neanderthalensis ancestry and the big cluster fuck called "race" in the middle. Clearly if we're going to argue about race then we have more important things to worry about. We all came from one or a combination of both. This is something none of us can deny. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 4208151 11/01/2011 05:59 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites RAN Africa--- DUH. I mean, blonde blue eyed men ARE EGYPTIANS, I mean AFRICANS even back to the ancient days. Quoting: Ha Moshiach 1500923 ONCE AGAIN: WHITE=AFRICAN That's the jest of this thread. Even though the Nubians just south are black as coal. Just look at the SPHINX for crying out loud, see those are thin lips, and the noses that were blown off, that's because they were pointy, not broad and negroid. I'm amazed but not surprised, that you would believe such lies. In fact, arguing this ignorance is no longer worth my time and the last time I will. It's a final tactic to get those who are rebuilding the Obelisk/Pyramid from focusing. Don't fall in the trap. They weren't necessarily blonde and blue eyed, most caucasian peoples in the world are in fact not of those traits. [link to pilgrimshandicrafts.com] Soooooooooooooo you're saying what? Oh you wanted me to look at the ppl BEHIND her or BESIDE her. That's not even her Egyptian name- AUSET is. Can I get an original plz...not one color coded! dude, forget about color, those facial features are just not negroid and wouldn't be in a million years. Just accept it bro, you're ancestors were nice people who knew how to live in harmony with nature. They just didnt happen to be civilization builders, there's nothing wrong with that. Being a civilization builder doesn't make you better, ironically that's what you were taught by our peoples and now you can't deprogram yourselves. One of the peoples I hold in greater esteem were the Hopis and other peaceful native tribes. I love their wisdom and their lifestyles. They didnt have complex writting and they didnt build huge structures. Just understand that all those structures, hieroglyphs, mythologies and technology came from the ante-diluvian world. The Vedas tells us there were civilizations in this world 4 million years ago! The primitives from Africa couldn't have quantum leaped such heights to come up with such technology out of the blue, you comprehend this? it just doesnt work that way and it never has! "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 957156 11/01/2011 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just understand that all those structures, hieroglyphs, mythologies and technology came from the ante-diluvian world. The Vedas tells us there were civilizations in this world 4 million years ago! The primitives from Africa couldn't have quantum leaped such heights to come up with such technology out of the blue, you comprehend this? it just doesnt work that way and it never has! The Afro-centric club is a "feel good" club. Facts never enter into the discussion. Facts are bad in their world. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4411203 11/01/2011 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doubt many races have been through Egypt, but Egypt was named after Egyptus who was the wife of Ham, she was reportedly a black woman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4411203 Reportedly meaning myth. Look at the genetic evidence, for those are the facts. Im not saying there have never been white people in Egypt, look at Cleopatra she was Greek her name was Ptolomy, Im saying tht name Egypt comes from Ham's wife who was a black woman a descendant of Cain. |
| mael User ID: 4017953 11/01/2011 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is well documented that the Nubians only ruled Egypt during the last years of the Empire. This was also the reason why the Egyptian empire declined. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4044508 Whites build and create the civilisations. They can create and maintain them. Asians can maintain them but they are not able to create them. * They are able to create civilisation to a degree. Blacks can neither create nor maintain civilisation. * Give the White race a hammer and he will create a glorious empire. Give the Asians a hammer and they'll make another million hammers. Give a hammer to the Blacks and they'll destroy everything. Last Edited by mael on 11/01/2011 06:12 AM |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 4208151 11/01/2011 06:09 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doubt many races have been through Egypt, but Egypt was named after Egyptus who was the wife of Ham, she was reportedly a black woman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4411203 Reportedly meaning myth. Look at the genetic evidence, for those are the facts. Im not saying there have never been white people in Egypt, look at Cleopatra she was Greek her name was Ptolomy, Im saying tht name Egypt comes from Ham's wife who was a black woman a descendant of Cain. How you know she was black? "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 4208151 11/01/2011 06:12 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is well documented that the Nubians only ruled Egypt during the last years of the Empire. This was also the reason why the Egyptian empire declined. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4044508 Whites build and create the civilisations. They can create and maintain them. Asians can maintain them but they are not able to create them. * They are able to create civilisation to a degree. Blacks can neither create nor maintain civilisation. * Give the White race a hammer and he will create a glorious empire. Give an Asian a hammer and he'll make another million hammers. Give a hammer to a Black and he'll destroy everything. If you are an asian individual I applaud you for your sincerity. Anyways, not all white people have been able to create and maintain civilizations at all times. Back in the days it was the mediterraneans who started western civilization while the nordics were living as barbarians for the most part. The it was the nordics who gave a quantum leap in technology to allow us our current modern civilization while mediterraneans became lazy and complacent. Yet none of these peoples could have created anything wasn't it for the recollection, although sometimes vague, of the chronicles of their ancient predecessors, the Atlanteans, and the secret societies keeping their wisdom safeguarded. "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4413555 11/01/2011 06:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Aryans come from North west India, which is now north Pakistan. That is where the Sanskrit language developed and the chariot riding people spread across the world. Quoting: FreedomStands The Egyptians claimed to come from South India, a land called Punt. so aryans evolved from abominable snowmen? |
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| Tha Truth User ID: 7758081 12/26/2011 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to be one of the funniest posts I have ever read in my life. People are using the story of ham like it is actually a verified story LMAO. The first thing you would have to do is prove that events in the bible even took place which you won't smh so lets stop with that crap Ok lets deal with this hair issue, the hair changed color due to oxidising. Here are 2 links easily showing this using science smh. This first link easily shows the hair index that they showed & proved of the egyptian mummies [link to stewartsynopsis.com] This link shows the reason for hair changing due to oxidising [link to www.archaeology.org] Ok so we can stop with that pathetic argument. Second the kemetians told you themselves what they were. They depicted themselves in the tomb of Ramses III no different then what you see of the Nubians so what are we even talking about at this point seriously? [link to www.manuampim.com] Also notice they had a word for white people which was called Tamahu. It means created white man, if they were white show me where they refer to themselves as Tamahu???? Furthermore look at how they dressed, lets use some common sense here. White people die from the sun, they didn't depict themselves in clothes from head to toe so how could some white people even create the sphinx or the pyramids hahahaha. On top of that you have pyramids in Nubia that are older then in Egypt, as well as having some in Ethiopia. Show me in europe where they are producing pyramids like that in Africa? First you would have to show knowledge of math being used in Europe which you can't. But you can see math being used in Africa in southern Africa as far back as 35,000 years ago with the Lebombo bone. The ishango bone is evidence of math being used as far back as 25,000 years ago. Show me evidence of this in europe please. To add if you research it the god of Egypt come from the south, you see Ausar & Auset in Ethiopia!!!!! Yall need to stop with these lame duck arguments cause they hold no weight & it just makes white people look pathetic and sad hahahaha. Oh and if you did proper research you would know that the land of punt is in Somalia not India. Even tho the first people of India were ethiopians whom referred to themselves as Dravidians [link to www.cwo.com] Here is a good article showing archeological evidence dealing with Kemet as well [link to www.africanamericanculturalcenterpalmcoast.org] Tha Truth |
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| DonHeau Gruntled but partially turbed. User ID: 1359307 12/26/2011 07:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to be one of the funniest posts I have ever read in my life. People are using the story of ham like it is actually a verified story LMAO. The first thing you would have to do is prove that events in the bible even took place which you won't smh so lets stop with that crap Quoting: Tha Truth Ok lets deal with this hair issue, the hair changed color due to oxidising. Here are 2 links easily showing this using science smh. This first link easily shows the hair index that they showed & proved of the egyptian mummies [link to stewartsynopsis.com] This link shows the reason for hair changing due to oxidising [link to www.archaeology.org] Ok so we can stop with that pathetic argument. Second the kemetians told you themselves what they were. They depicted themselves in the tomb of Ramses III no different then what you see of the Nubians so what are we even talking about at this point seriously? [link to www.manuampim.com] Also notice they had a word for white people which was called Tamahu. It means created white man, if they were white show me where they refer to themselves as Tamahu???? Furthermore look at how they dressed, lets use some common sense here. White people die from the sun, they didn't depict themselves in clothes from head to toe so how could some white people even create the sphinx or the pyramids hahahaha. On top of that you have pyramids in Nubia that are older then in Egypt, as well as having some in Ethiopia. Show me in europe where they are producing pyramids like that in Africa? First you would have to show knowledge of math being used in Europe which you can't. But you can see math being used in Africa in southern Africa as far back as 35,000 years ago with the Lebombo bone. The ishango bone is evidence of math being used as far back as 25,000 years ago. Show me evidence of this in europe please. To add if you research it the god of Egypt come from the south, you see Ausar & Auset in Ethiopia!!!!! Yall need to stop with these lame duck arguments cause they hold no weight & it just makes white people look pathetic and sad hahahaha. Oh and if you did proper research you would know that the land of punt is in Somalia not India. Even tho the first people of India were ethiopians whom referred to themselves as Dravidians [link to www.cwo.com] Here is a good article showing archeological evidence dealing with Kemet as well [link to www.africanamericanculturalcenterpalmcoast.org] Didn't they do some DNA that showed Tut as R1B...? Whatever would you say if that proves to be true? It may be that this specific dynastic line in particular, was 'Nordic'. We opened doors by thinking. |
| KnightsTemplar.TV User ID: 1280429 12/26/2011 07:29 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My ancestors come from Egypt and I have blonde hair and blue eyes. Just had my DNA verifying this scientific fact. The mummies along with DNA make the fact that many or all the royal and priestly class were of white skin, blonde, brown or red hair and blue eyes, green or brown. My gut says most all were blue eyes and blonde or red hair. Last Edited by Gnostic Warrior on 12/26/2011 07:30 PM Regards, Moe [link to GnosticWarrior.com] THERE IS A WAR FOR YOUR SOUL! [link to www.LoanSafe.org] FIGHTING BIG BANKS! |
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| Tha Truth User ID: 7758081 12/26/2011 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well here is your problem with the DNA argument, earlier people were saying the out of Africa theory was blown out of the water....Well DNA is based off of out of Africa theory so which way are we gonna have it???? I suggest people research mitochondrial eve. On top of that R1b is also common in so called "sub-saharan" africa [link to en.wikipedia.org] Tha Truth |
| Tha Truth User ID: 7758081 12/26/2011 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did he just say my gut feeling? Hahahahahahaha, dude I posted information showing why the hair turned yellow and red, it was due to the oxidation from the chemicals used during the burial of the mummies. Nice try tho, gonna have to find another way to try and steal African cultures Tha Truth |