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I'm so freaking sick of people saying that Christians and Muslims are equally violent. Not all Muslims are violent and not all Christians are the epitome of peace....

But I am getting emails from friends with family and/or missionaries in Egypt and it is BAD for Christians in Egypt right now, worse than usual. They can't get out. As if the bombing of churches wasn't enough, now they are fearing for their lives with the Muslim uprising.

I don't care if this is a "movement of the people" if what the people want is to harm the minority!!!

EDIT TO ADD:

Please pray for peace and protection.

EDIT TO ADD UPDATE 2/9/2011

Received an update today:

Eye-Witness Account from Egypt

Dear Friends,

Egypt is finding its way towards more freedom, but please don't believe what the international media is saying! There is a plot to topple the president, and Egyptians do not want that. I have been on the streets with many hundreds of thousands, probably even millions, who want stability, dialogue, and change with Mubarak until the elections in September. There are forces taking advantage of the situation and twisting facts and figures to portray to the international community a distorted image to topple the government. The vast majority of people in the streets in peaceful demonstrations (I speak as an eyewitness because I took to the streets myself) are carrying banners saying things like:

- yes to stability, yes to Mubarak

- give change a chance

- we are sorry Mr. president

- we accept dialogue, we trust you

- no to El-Baradei, no to the muslim brotherhood (many like this one)

- we are the Egyptians, where is Al-Jazeera, let them come and see

- no to corruption, no to vandalism

- we got what we asked the president for, so why are people still in Tahrir? Who are they? What do they want? etc., etc., etc.

We met with people who were in the original protest in Tahrir square who decided to join us saying: we got what we asked for, and now we accept Mubarak's changes and proposals. I left the street with my wife around 4:15 pm, and the numbers in the neighbourhood of Mohandessin where the crowds were gathered had swelled to easily over a million. As we drove home we saw the same slogans on banners all over the city, on cars, on walls, on shop windows. We learned that similar demonstrations are taking place ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, IN MANY DIFFERENT CITIES. THIS IS THE CRY OF THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT THAT IS BEING TOTALLY IGNORED BY THE INTERNATIONAL NEWS MEDIA. Is this on purpose??!!! I am perplexed!!!

I am wondering: How come CNN, the BBC, and others are reporting ONLY the anti-government protests as the voice of the people? This is not JUSTICE, this is not the TRUTH. There have been reports that these people are being paid by the government. NOT TRUE! I was there with many, many others. I SAW THE STREETS. Now to the situation in Tahrir square. Only a few people (hundreds?) are still there from the original protesters. They have been slowly replaced by other HIGHLY ORGANIZED GROUPS. They all have the same model of cell phones. They all have the same blankets (eye witnesses). THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT.

Some witnesses claim that they don't look Egyptians, and don't sound Egyptians (different accent, different dialect). THIS IS A BIG ORGANIZED COUP TO TRY TO CONVINCE THE WORLD THROUGH THE MEDIA THAT EGYPT WANTS MUBARAK TO GO, AND THE MEDIA IS PART OF THE DECEPTION. People in Tahrir square are escalating the situation on purpose to topple President Mubarak FOR THEIR OWN HIDDEN AGENDAS. This is TYPICAL OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERS, AND EVERYBODY IN THE STREETS OF CAIRO KNOWS THIS. We heard people on the streets saying that the plot to take over the country is now clear. THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS.

The escalation of violence in Tahrir square is because of this. Egyptians who love Egypt, the millions that took to the streets yesterday, want this to end. They fully understand that president Mubarak is between a rock and a hard place, that he cannot quench the unrest in Tahrir through the army, so the people want to go to Tahrir to disperse the crowds there by themselves. People in Tahrir are vastly outnumbered. If Egyptians go the Tahrir square to take control of the situation, more chaos will erupt, giving a chance to the international media to blame the President even more.

Don't believe an opportunist like Mohammed El-Baradei who is deceiving the international community into putting pressure on president Mubarak to leave immediately so they can fulfill their own agendas. Franklin Roosevelt said, "Nothing happens by accident in politics. If it happened, somebody made it happen." And this is NOT what Egyptians want! I am an Egyptian. My wife and I were on the streets on Tuesday and Wednesday in support of the current regime, and we saw millions on the streets. If Egypt falls, then neighbouring countries are going to fall one after the other. Someone is behind this!

Please help us uncover the deception and spread the truth. Please share with everybody.

XXXXXXX



Dear Intercessors,

We have been following the events carefully as they unfold in Egypt and across the Middle East. As usual, things aren't always as they seem in political circumstances. Below you'll find an email that I received from a witness on the ground in Egypt. This is a grave situation. Leaders from Egypt have been calling and beseeching us for intercession for their nation. From their perspective, the Christians are in grave danger if Mubarak leaves, as they feel he has kept the radical extremists at bay.

Here are some prayer points:

1. Pray that God will reveal every secret plot the Muslim Brotherhood has in Egypt.

2. Pray that every scheme that is Al Quaeda backed will be exposed in all levels of Egyptian culture, including the police.

3. Pray for protection of Christians across the Middle East

4. Pray for a smooth transition to a secular government.

5. Pray that the military of Egypt will not stand with pro-Muslim Brotherhood factions.

6. Pray that factions will not blow up the oil pipeline and that the Suez Canal will stay open for international commerce.

7. Pray that this Islamist revolution will not be successful and that they will not be able to establish an Islamic Caliphate.

8. Pray for protection for Israel from the terrorists that would sneak across the border into Gaza while the borders are unguarded.

9. Pray for comfort and peace for those who have been caught up in the midst of their nations being destabilized.

10. Pray for a movement of unified fasting and prayer to sweep across the believers in Jesus and powerfully impact the Middle East.

11. Pray for an Isaiah 19 highway of holiness to be established.

12. Pray for a Great Awakening to take place, with thousands of souls swept into the Kingdom of God.

Standing in the gap!

XXXXXXX

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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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SHut up idiot.

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Way to go, China.
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Your head is in your ass.
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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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Fuckinig religous tards.No shit,the christian crusade in the middle east does have its ramifications.
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
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The Christian hate is so intense people have lost their common sense.

5 stars to counter the one star asshole.
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The Rapture will usher in your prophecy.
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Way to go, China.
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You are presently singing that tune because China owns yer ass, son.
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Fuckinig religous tards.No shit,the christian crusade in the middle east does have its ramifications.
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So you only support minority rights if the minority aren't Christian?
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Way to go, China.
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You are presently singing that tune because China owns yer ass, son.
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China does not own me, my Creator does. And I am a woman.
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637


I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
 Quoting: Riker



The Christian hate is so intense people have lost their common sense.

5 stars to counter the one star asshole.
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Thank you Turtle.
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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637

Fuckinig religous tards.No shit,the christian crusade in the middle east does have its ramifications.
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Not as much as idiots like yourself with no grasp of history.
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637

Fuckinig religous tards.No shit,the christian crusade in the middle east does have its ramifications.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249222

The Crusades were retaliation for the Muslim conquest of the previously Christian middle east, and Islam is still pissed centuries later.
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The Muslims are killing the Christians in Egypt.
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For those who pray, please pray for the safety of those in Egypt and throughout the world - no matter the religion.


But right now, I am most worried for the Christians and missionaries in the Middle East.

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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
 Quoting: Riker



like those many threads from christians bashing down atheists/agnostics ? give me a fucking break,you christians dont care about other peoples believes aswell.
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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
 Quoting: Riker



Your kind pull religion into everything because you are too stupid to think outside its boundaries. It ends up poisoning everything. This happens on both sides and it is not exclusive to either.

People like you do more harm than good. I could give a fuck what religion the people of Egypt choose to follow. Whether minority or majority.
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I don't think they are harming the Coptic Christians churches.
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Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
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This would be all over the news if it were to be true.

I only saw a brief statement on Fox.

Therefore it's BS!

Easy math...

People are always dramatizing things and act as if they are in a terrible situation. Every minority does.
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637

Fuckinig religous tards.No shit,the christian crusade in the middle east does have its ramifications.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249222

The Crusades were retaliation for the Muslim conquest of the previously Christian middle east, and Islam is still pissed centuries later.
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yep.
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For those who pray, please pray for the safety of those in Egypt and throughout the world - no matter the religion.


But right now, I am most worried for the Christians and missionaries in the Middle East.
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Because you religious zealots are all about picking sides and twisting circumstance until you can find something to cry about.
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Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
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This would be all over the news if it were to be true.

I only saw a brief statement on Fox.

Therefore it's BS!

Easy math...

People are always dramatizing things and act as if they are in a terrible situation. Every minority does.
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Muslim + rape + Christian About 2,740,000 results (0.15 seconds)

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shut up you repulsive bastards arnt gona take over anything , god comes and wipes your arses out its all in the bible , now go back to eating your fucking cat you shocking people

throw babies in the gutter
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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
 Quoting: Riker

[link to www.crusades-encyclopedia.com]
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For those who pray, please pray for the safety of those in Egypt and throughout the world - no matter the religion.


But right now, I am most worried for the Christians and missionaries in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Riker




Because you religious zealots are all about picking sides and twisting circumstance until you can find something to cry about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637


I never said I was a religious zealot. Isn't it interesting how you were so eager to emotionally post a response that you aren't thinking clearly?

I am posting to ask for prayer for protection of those in the Middle East.... and in return being accused of twisting circumstances.
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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637

Fuckinig religous tards.No shit,the christian crusade in the middle east does have its ramifications.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249222


That was hundreds of years ago. Are you really making the argument that these people are justified in exacting revenge on peaceful people who had nothing to do with the killing of their attackers' ancestors in a mostly defensive war?

Would Americans or Europeans, then, be justified in attacking our Muslim populations over the Ottoman invasion of Europe from the 1400s?

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The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
 Quoting: Riker

[link to www.crusades-encyclopedia.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404735


I'm not even talking about the Crusades.

I'm talking about THIS WEEK
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I don't think they are harming the Coptic Christians churches.
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That's the problem, you don't think.

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christians and muslims will unite in the end , it is writtain ... im glad
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637


I'm talking about respecting the lives and beliefs of others regardless of your own.

Do you think that Muslims are respecting the lives and beliefs of Christians when they kill and rape them?
 Quoting: Riker



Your kind pull religion into everything because you are too stupid to think outside its boundaries. It ends up poisoning everything. This happens on both sides and it is not exclusive to either.

People like you do more harm than good. I could give a fuck what religion the people of Egypt choose to follow. Whether minority or majority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246637


So you don't care if people are oppressed, raped, killed, etc?

you're pretty heartless then.
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