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BREAKING: Obama Healthcare Plan declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND VOID!

 
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I have great insurance.Maybe now the docs will fix me.They have been acting strange of late
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The law has ALWAYS been unconstitutional...

as is the Brady bill and Patriot Acts 1 & 2...


If guys need some moran like me to tell you what your rights are...



The unknowing are slaves to liars.


It is well settled that, quite apart from the guarantee of equal protection, if a law "impinges upon a fundamental right explicitly or implicitly secured by the Constitution [it] is presumptively unconstitutional." Harris v. McRae, 448 US 297, 312 (1980) quoting CITY OF MOBILE V. BOLDEN, 446 U. S. 55, 76 (1980)

"An unconstitutional act is not law." according to Norton v. Shelby County 118 USR 425 (1886).

and per Marbury v. Madison 5 US 137 (1803) we know the law is “null and void from it's enactment” !

and that: "No court is bound to uphold it and no one is bound to obey it" !

(If any statement, within any law, which is passed, is unconstitutional, the whole law is unconstitutional then you don't have any.)


It's the DA's duty to show the law is NOT unconstitutional.



hf
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If they cant force people to buy insurance than the whole bill is a disaster. By forcing the young to buy insurance thats how the rest of the bill was funded.

Bwahahahaha! Sorry Barry. You lose asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990655

Bwahahahaha! May your child be born with a debilitating pre existing condition where by you and you future family will truly be fucked. Cause the tea baggers will be forcing the government to cut down on services and this will eventually shut down county and state hospitals ( which are usually shit holes anyway) for lack of funding.Without the health insurance the companies won't give you, you either will have to pay up yourself or watch your family suffer. Best hope you idiots don't get what you ask for cause you all only look at the short run, and not how your thoughtless actions will screw yourself in the end.
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Now that this has been declared unconstitutional, and the members of congress that voted for this swore to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, are treason arrest warrants going to be issued for the members who voted in the affirmative?
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We can only hope.
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+1
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Dang...beat me to it! :)


Thread: BREAKING!!! FLORIDA JUDGE RULES OBAMACARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
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If they cant force people to buy insurance than the whole bill is a disaster. By forcing the young to buy insurance thats how the rest of the bill was funded.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990655


This had nothing to do with providing affordable health care, it had everything to do with providing a temporary cash flow for social security which has a $47 billion deficit right now. Benefits were intentionally delayed so the program could bring in a few more trillion and fund social security.
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The rest of the bill better stand, because I won't have health insurance apparently if it doesn't.
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so don't go to the doctor n heal yourself with proper nutrition and herbs
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Who're all the evangelical Christian loons who post so much on here? Don't you people work? You're the rightwing loon version of the leftie moonbats who post 24/7 on other sites. Seriously, WTF?

To non-Americans:

Trust me,most Americans aren't like the loons who post so much shit on this site.

Just saying.
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If they cant force people to buy insurance than the whole bill is a disaster. By forcing the young to buy insurance thats how the rest of the bill was funded.

Bwahahahaha! Sorry Barry. You lose asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990655

Bwahahahaha! May your child be born with a debilitating pre existing condition where by you and you future family will truly be fucked. Cause the tea baggers will be forcing the government to cut down on services and this will eventually shut down county and state hospitals ( which are usually shit holes anyway) for lack of funding.Without the health insurance the companies won't give you, you either will have to pay up yourself or watch your family suffer. Best hope you idiots don't get what you ask for cause you all only look at the short run, and not how your thoughtless actions will screw yourself in the end.
 Quoting: Dre 962950


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So what is the answer to people who are uninsurable or where insurance is just too expensive?

Should they just be left out to die because they can't afford treatment? Or just go bankrupt each time they get sick or have an accident?

Something really needs to be done. It is sickening that the US is the only country in the world that doesn't do anything to help the working poor and uninsurable.

They have socialized medicine for welfare people, illegals and the old people but they screw the middle class.

The only way for some people to get help is to just be so poor that everything is 'free'. And that sucks.
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The rest of the bill better stand, because I won't have health insurance apparently if it doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219917


so don't go to the doctor n heal yourself with proper nutrition and herbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112577


Yeah...herbs will cure a broken wrist or leukemia
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I think most States or even the Fed Gov takes care of children with problems and when they are born, it is adults here that this Country is talking about.

Yes, there are some adults also with problems, but again the health care system in most States will help out with that also, and cover it with insurance.

If you do not live in such a State, perhaps you can either check or change it.

Again, it is not necessarily the health care which is the problem here, it is the way it can be administrated.

That is the problem with this health care crap going on with this bill, not your emotional feelings about it.
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yawn
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what is your deal?
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The rest of the bill better stand, because I won't have health insurance apparently if it doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219917


so don't go to the doctor n heal yourself with proper nutrition and herbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112577


Well, what are they going to do if they amputate a body part? Just sew it back on themselves? Or they break something? Just set it or let it heal in its broken state? There are some things good nutrition/vitamins just won't take care of. That is what insurance is for. But many today just can't afford it. And some insurance has such high deductibles it just doesn't pay to have it. So bankruptcy is most people's answer and they can only do that every 7 or so years if that. Whole lives can be ruined by one major accident.
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The rest of the bill better stand, because I won't have health insurance apparently if it doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219917


so don't go to the doctor n heal yourself with proper nutrition and herbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112577


Yeah...herbs will cure a broken wrist or leukemia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1225440



that is what I was just saying. some people just don't think. obviously you are thinking.
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The rest of the bill better stand, because I won't have health insurance apparently if it doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219917


so don't go to the doctor n heal yourself with proper nutrition and herbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112577


Yeah...herbs will cure a broken wrist or leukemia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1225440


Vitamin D will keep doctors away. Actually, you'd be surprised how much vitamin D deficiency is costing us in medical expense. Just that vitamin alone is supposed to cost us 4 trillions of dollar over the next 10 years. 4 fucking trillion dollars from widespread vitamin D deficiency! Imagine how much that would save us if we all correct vitamin D deficiency. It's so cheap, it costs me 20 dollars for the year.

"Current research has implicated vitamin D deficiency as a major factor in the pathology of at least 17 varieties of cancer as well as heart disease, stroke, hypertension, autoimmune diseases, diabetes, depression, chronic pain, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, muscle weakness, muscle wasting, birth defects, periodontal disease, and more."

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

And fucking gov't cant get it right?!? Why depend on fed gov't when they can't get shit done right?
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The rest of the bill better stand, because I won't have health insurance apparently if it doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219917


so don't go to the doctor n heal yourself with proper nutrition and herbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112577


Well, what are they going to do if they amputate a body part? Just sew it back on themselves? Or they break something? Just set it or let it heal in its broken state? There are some things good nutrition/vitamins just won't take care of. That is what insurance is for. But many today just can't afford it. And some insurance has such high deductibles it just doesn't pay to have it. So bankruptcy is most people's answer and they can only do that every 7 or so years if that. Whole lives can be ruined by one major accident.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178936



Well, blame it on gov't for making insurance so expensive in the first place. Gov't is not the solution. Never is and never will be.
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All the Judge stated was that the government can't force you to buy health insurance. The rest of the healthcare bill still stands.
 Quoting: static void

NO!! The judge said you canNOT just take one part of it out the entire act must be considered void!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250882


Show me a quote where he said that.

Edit: I stand corrected. MSNBC article says he actually said that.
Still, it has to go to the Supreme Court for the whole bill to be stuck down.
 Quoting: static void


Wrong - any Federal Court (even Districts) may vacate a ruling by finding it unconstitutional. It may be appealed by the AG of the U.S. but at this time it is NULL and VOID - unless and until the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

The Supreme Court has the option to not accept the case - it is not a forgone conclusion it will be heard. I hope not.
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If, would, could, should.

Don't exist, and I know since I had a heart attack, and I thought the total sum of it all was outrageous to say the least, but then..............the State took care of it, for the most part. I thank them, but only up to a certain point.

If the food which is safe, was anything nututional, then most of this crap would not happen in the first place for a lot of it.

That is fact!
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Healthcare and health insurance is a big racket in America. We spend more on healthcare than anyone else in the advanced world. We get royally ripped off with drug prices that no one else in the world pays because their governments won't allow big pharmaceuticals to charge outrageous prices.

And on top of it all, our overall taxes are high. Whereas taxpayers in other countries actually get something for the taxes they pay, we get very little( unless of course if you're poor, then you get everything for free). Housing costs are high....healthcare costs are high....higher education costs are very high....taxes are high....wages are stagnant or declining....this shit is ridiculous.

But at least we have a gigantic military machine that polices the world and protects other nations who are perfectly capable of paying for their own defense. But why the fuck should they? The stupid Americans will protect them and spens their money to do it?!

This country is so fucked.
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Because I read it on GLP first, It's always safer to consider it WRONG information.
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The law has ALWAYS been unconstitutional...

as is the Brady bill and Patriot Acts 1 & 2...


If you guys need some moran like me to tell you what your rights are...

then you don't have any.


The unknowing are slaves to liars.


It is well settled that, quite apart from the guarantee of equal protection, if a law "impinges upon a fundamental right explicitly or implicitly secured by the Constitution [it] is presumptively unconstitutional." Harris v. McRae, 448 US 297, 312 (1980) quoting CITY OF MOBILE V. BOLDEN, 446 U. S. 55, 76 (1980)

"An unconstitutional act is not law." according to Norton v. Shelby County 118 USR 425 (1886).

and per Marbury v. Madison 5 US 137 (1803) we know the law is “null and void from it's enactment” !

and that: "No court is bound to uphold it and no one is bound to obey it" !

(If any statement, within any law, which is passed, is unconstitutional, the whole law is unconstitutional.)


It's the DA's duty to show the law is NOT unconstitutional.



hf
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Damn... even with the new preview button,

I still managed to screw that post up... lol (fixed it)
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The law has ALWAYS been unconstitutional...

as is the Brady bill and Patriot Acts 1 & 2...


If you guys need some moran like me to tell you what your rights are...

then you don't have any.


The unknowing are slaves to liars.


It is well settled that, quite apart from the guarantee of equal protection, if a law "impinges upon a fundamental right explicitly or implicitly secured by the Constitution [it] is presumptively unconstitutional." Harris v. McRae, 448 US 297, 312 (1980) quoting CITY OF MOBILE V. BOLDEN, 446 U. S. 55, 76 (1980)

"An unconstitutional act is not law." according to Norton v. Shelby County 118 USR 425 (1886).

and per Marbury v. Madison 5 US 137 (1803) we know the law is “null and void from it's enactment” !

and that: "No court is bound to uphold it and no one is bound to obey it" !

(If any statement, within any law, which is passed, is unconstitutional, the whole law is unconstitutional.)


It's the DA's duty to show the law is NOT unconstitutional.



hf
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Damn... even with the new preview button,

I still managed to screw that post up... lol (fixed it)
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yawn
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what is your deal?
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It means nothing until the SCOTUS rules.
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Hell yeah!
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yawn
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

what is your deal?
 Quoting: ºBIRDTARDº


It means nothing until the SCOTUS rules.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Only if you're a slave...


hf
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So what is the answer to people who are uninsurable or where insurance is just too expensive?

Should they just be left out to die because they can't afford treatment? Or just go bankrupt each time they get sick or have an accident?

Something really needs to be done. It is sickening that the US is the only country in the world that doesn't do anything to help the working poor and uninsurable.

They have socialized medicine for welfare people, illegals and the old people but they screw the middle class.

The only way for some people to get help is to just be so poor that everything is 'free'. And that sucks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178936


Yeah but forced insurance is not the fucking answer unless you are a insurance company.
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 Quoting: Future History


quote:
What an ill informed sheep you are.. They are talking about it on the fucking news right now.. The Judge said, if one part of the bill is unconstitutional, the entire bill is unconstitutional and is void!
_____________________________________________________________​_

I'm guessing this answers my question. If its ALL void that would take care of the 1099 crap.



But aren't you watching fox news?
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yawn
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

what is your deal?
 Quoting: ºBIRDTARDº


It means nothing until the SCOTUS rules.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Only if you're a slave...


hf
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Pfft..

What does that even mean?

The law wont fucking change without a scotus ruling regardless of what some dipshit on GLP says.
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