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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1241948  United States01/31/2011 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if he was over his 9 gram quota on pseudoephedrine, then he did, in fact, break the law. That meth head SHOULD be arrested! Quoting: Lenny 1222542Just because the laws tells you something don't mean it's right, on the pure basis that you're a human being and can think for yourself. Just not when you're letting others cause you to make judgmental and therefore ignorant decisions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1092082 United States01/31/2011 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: weegieYep, I tried to buy some fiberglass resin Saturday at Home Depot. The self-checkout wouldn't scan it until I'd showed an ID to a clerk. If there were ANY clerks I wouldn't have been in a self-checkout since I HATE them. Since when is fiberglass a hazardous substance? What about all those danged boats then? I just walked out. Don't need a garden ornament that badly. I've bought that stuff for years with no hassle. Are hammers and nail guns also considered "dangerous"? More people get killed with them than fiberglass resin I would think. Regular police-state we have now. Thanks for the Meth Recipe...not planning to make any, but I'll know what 3 things are needed if I ever become a junkie. fiberglass resin is used by huffers Gas can be used by huffers.. You don't need a fucking ID for that now do you? But they dont get the same high off gas and gas they cant carry around with them so easy. Yeah, because gas cannot fit into a small glass baby food jar right? And how the fuck do you know if the highs are the same or not you God damned junkie?? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153822 United States01/31/2011 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153822fiberglass resin is used by huffers Gas can be used by huffers.. You don't need a fucking ID for that now do you? But they dont get the same high off gas and gas they cant carry around with them so easy. Yeah, because gas cannot fit into a small glass baby food jar right? And how the fuck do you know if the highs are the same or not you God damned junkie?? Cuz I would in the Law Enforcement field you assclown.. I know whats in and whats not.. so fuck off |
| jerum User ID: 1242271 United States01/31/2011 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I better not buy bacon and butter at the same time or the brown shirts will come and arrest me for a health care violation. Quoting: jerumYou don't getit thes are the thre things you need to make Meth! So if I buy nails to fix the porch, gun powder for my reloads, and a pipe and a couple of pipe caps for my plumbing job all in the same day (or worse, the same place) I am somehow guilty of manufacturing something illegal? No. Simply purchasing ingredients or supplies is not enough for an arrest... If ingredients or a few supplies is all you need for suspicion then I pity the next diabetic that buys a spoon for his soup when he picks up a new supply of needles! One the needles a diabetic uses aren't good to main line. Two there are limits on the amount of Black Powder you can buy at one time with out permits .... I use to buy 500 lbs at a time for my cannon and for friends with artillery. I had to have an ATF approved powder magiziane and a briefcase full of documents to do so. ? Last Edited by jerum on 01/31/2011 05:12 PM "Use no hurtful Deceit. Think innocently and justly; and, if you speak, speak accordingly"...Ben Franklin |
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| Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States01/31/2011 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyYou don't getit thes are the thre things you need to make Meth! So if I buy nails to fix the porch, gun powder for my reloads, and a pipe and a couple of pipe caps for my plumbing job all in the same day (or worse, the same place) I am somehow guilty of manufacturing something illegal? No. Simply purchasing ingredients or supplies is not enough for an arrest... If ingredients or a few supplies is all you need for suspicion then I pity the next diabetic that buys a spoon for his soup when he picks up a new supply of needles! One the needles a diabetic uses aren't good to main line. Two there are limits on the amount of Black Powder you can buy at one time with out permits .... I use to buy 500 lbs at a time for my cannon and for friends with artillery. I had to have an ATF approved powder magiziane and a briefcase full of documents to do so. If you are so into cannons, why did u cut yours off? What does that have to do with the topic? How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
| JackWagon User ID: 1237041 United States01/31/2011 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250953 You tard... He is a deal that was going to make Meth.. Get over yourself and know the whole store before you think Where's your proof of that? Exactly. Innocent until proven meth lab. heh JackWagon: ... could become as important of a disclosure tool as the Freedom of Information Act AND WikiLeaks. -Anonymous |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1241948 United States01/31/2011 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 947526 United States01/31/2011 05:07 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Oklahoma, they actually limit the sales by making people buy it at a pharmacy and keeping track. It's inconvenient, annoying as hell, makes you feel like a criminal when you just want to breath again, and I don't even know if it has eased our meth problem here or not. It's a silly law. My big idea: Legalize EVERYTHING and let people ruin their lives and kill themselves if they choose to. More air for the rest of us. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153822 United States01/31/2011 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1096472 United States01/31/2011 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OH, and FYI, it IS illegal to own pseudoephedrine if you have obtained more than 9 grams in a thirty day period Quoting: Lenny 1222542"The "Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005" provides for criminal penalties for non compliance and limits the maximum amount an individual can buy to 9 grams of pseudoephedrine per any 30 day period: This makes it unlawful for any person to knowingly or intentionally purchase at retail more than 9 grams during a 30 day period (of which no more than 7.5 grams can be imported by private or commercial carrier or the Postal Service). -- CME 2005" -Erowid.org Also the guy had previous convictions for burglary and 11 misdemeanors, according to court records. That stupid jackass. #1 - They would not have sold him more than 9 grams, so nothing illegal there. #2 - A burglary and 11 misdemeanors IS NOT the same as manufacturing a controlled substance, which is a felony. #3 - There is NO PROOF that he was going to make meth, and it is perfectly reasonable that he was having a cookout and picking up some allergy pills. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 453538 United States01/31/2011 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>>>>>My big idea: Legalize EVERYTHING and let people ruin their lives and kill themselves if they choose to. More air for the rest of us.<<<<<<< Until what? They attack someone on it using it. No, We Carry Guns Now! Get it through your head! |
| jerum User ID: 1242271 United States01/31/2011 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905186So if I buy nails to fix the porch, gun powder for my reloads, and a pipe and a couple of pipe caps for my plumbing job all in the same day (or worse, the same place) I am somehow guilty of manufacturing something illegal? No. Simply purchasing ingredients or supplies is not enough for an arrest... If ingredients or a few supplies is all you need for suspicion then I pity the next diabetic that buys a spoon for his soup when he picks up a new supply of needles! One the needles a diabetic uses aren't good to main line. Two there are limits on the amount of Black Powder you can buy at one time with out permits .... I use to buy 500 lbs at a time for my cannon and for friends with artillery. I had to have an ATF approved powder magiziane and a briefcase full of documents to do so. If you are so into cannons, why did u cut yours off? What does that have to do with the topic? nothing just being a dick, it happens from time to time. As far as getting it, I do. These were not the only things he bought, just part of his list. I don't want anyone to look at what I buy and try to pigeon hole me into some sort of illegal practice. Then send the police to do a search and possible seizure. He has been arrested on the purchase and nothing more. At least that is what the article states. my apologies for the knee jerk remark "Use no hurtful Deceit. Think innocently and justly; and, if you speak, speak accordingly"...Ben Franklin |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1247025 United States01/31/2011 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202782 United States01/31/2011 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be quite honest, we were NEVER "innocent until proven guilty". The charges against you stand until you prove otherwise. Thats why you get arrested and thrown in jail, then have to prove you won't flee, just to get a low bail. You are "guilty until proven innocent". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1098949 United States01/31/2011 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #1 - They would not have sold him more than 9 grams, so nothing illegal there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1096472#2 - A burglary and 11 misdemeanors IS NOT the same as manufacturing a controlled substance, which is a felony. #3 - There is NO PROOF that he was going to make meth, and it is perfectly reasonable that he was having a cookout and picking up some allergy pills. Naive ACLU Member of the Year award goes to this person. #1 - My wife worked in a pharmacy. They might sell you the amounts needed to make meth...if only to call the police and have them ready outside to prove your intent. #2 - A burglary IS a felony, FYI. #3 - ...is just stupid. Why don't you just pay this guy's bond, and let him move in with you and your kids if he's so innocent. Didn't think so. Wake up already. |
| Tantalus User ID: 967932 United States01/31/2011 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OH, and FYI, it IS illegal to own pseudoephedrine if you have obtained more than 9 grams in a thirty day period Quoting: Lenny 1222542"The "Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005" provides for criminal penalties for non compliance and limits the maximum amount an individual can buy to 9 grams of pseudoephedrine per any 30 day period: This makes it unlawful for any person to knowingly or intentionally purchase at retail more than 9 grams during a 30 day period (of which no more than 7.5 grams can be imported by private or commercial carrier or the Postal Service). -- CME 2005" -Erowid.org Also the guy had previous convictions for burglary and 11 misdemeanors, according to court records. That stupid jackass. #1 - They would not have sold him more than 9 grams, so nothing illegal there. #2 - A burglary and 11 misdemeanors IS NOT the same as manufacturing a controlled substance, which is a felony. #3 - There is NO PROOF that he was going to make meth, and it is perfectly reasonable that he was having a cookout and picking up some allergy pills. Indeed. Any person on this thread who doesnt see something wrong with this arrest situation is a damn fool, who is probably willing to give up freedom to feel safe. Please read my signature below, and understand, that there are no guarantees of any kind of safety when you are truly free. So, dont be a coward and take away freedoms for only previeved safety, because "precieved" does not mean guarantee. "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" --Benjamin Franlkin No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk? Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control ------------------------ Other Interesting Threads by Tantalus: Thread: Anunnaki, Nibiru, Brown Dwarfs, and Gravitational Time Dilation Thread: Amazing Connection!! The Great Pyramid was a Weapon. Valles Marineris the Result? Thread: The True Nature of the Simulation Thread: The Fractal Nature of Time and Matter, The Higgs Field and The Inter-Cosmic Macro-Fractal Electro-Chemical Brain. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1239986 United States01/31/2011 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I better not buy bacon and butter at the same time or the brown shirts will come and arrest me for a health care violation. Quoting: jerumYou don't getit thes are the thre things you need to make Meth! So if I buy nails to fix the porch, gun powder for my reloads, and a pipe and a couple of pipe caps for my plumbing job all in the same day (or worse, the same place) I am somehow guilty of manufacturing something illegal? No. Simply purchasing ingredients or supplies is not enough for an arrest... If ingredients or a few supplies is all you need for suspicion then I pity the next diabetic that buys a spoon for his soup when he picks up a new supply of needles! One the needles a diabetic uses aren't good to main line. Two there are limits on the amount of Black Powder you can buy at one time with out permits .... I use to buy 500 lbs at a time for my cannon and for friends with artillery. I had to have an ATF approved powder magiziane and a briefcase full of documents to do so. So you would turn in your fellow citizens for purchasing everyday items? I lost all respect for you Nikki. The last thing I figured was that you would turn into a fucking brownshirt. Especially since it doesn't go with your pumps. Oh well. |
| Lenny User ID: 1222542 United States01/31/2011 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if he was over his 9 gram quota on pseudoephedrine, then he did, in fact, break the law. That meth head SHOULD be arrested! Quoting: Lenny 1222542Just because the laws tells you something don't mean it's right, on the pure basis that you're a human being and can think for yourself. Just not when you're letting others cause you to make judgmental and therefore ignorant decisions. I'm merely making the point that pseudoephedrine is NOT legal after the 9 grams. I don't make the laws, I just try to understand them. And no, of course the law does NOT equal common sense. I'm a legal studies major and I know that probably better than you do. even though I'm for the legalization of ALL plants, meth is just plain evil. That shit is fucked six ways to Sunday, and I don't think ANYONE should be taking it for any reason! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222542 United States01/31/2011 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyYou don't getit thes are the thre things you need to make Meth! So if I buy nails to fix the porch, gun powder for my reloads, and a pipe and a couple of pipe caps for my plumbing job all in the same day (or worse, the same place) I am somehow guilty of manufacturing something illegal? No. Simply purchasing ingredients or supplies is not enough for an arrest... If ingredients or a few supplies is all you need for suspicion then I pity the next diabetic that buys a spoon for his soup when he picks up a new supply of needles! One the needles a diabetic uses aren't good to main line. Two there are limits on the amount of Black Powder you can buy at one time with out permits .... I use to buy 500 lbs at a time for my cannon and for friends with artillery. I had to have an ATF approved powder magiziane and a briefcase full of documents to do so. So you would turn in your fellow citizens for purchasing everyday items? I lost all respect for you Nikki. The last thing I figured was that you would turn into a fucking brownshirt. Especially since it doesn't go with your pumps. Oh well. You sound like a person whonever had to deal first-hand with the horrors of methamphetamines. Lucky you.. |
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| lol User ID: 1251044 United States01/31/2011 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is now a felony for people with allergies to go camping. This government is out of control. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250953You tard... He is a deal that was going to make Meth.. Get over yourself and know the whole store before you think Assumption is a thought crime. He has to make it first. Next they'll arrest someone for buying assault rifles and large amounts of ammo because the accused visited this site. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1241948 United States01/31/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm merely making the point that pseudoephedrine is NOT legal after the 9 grams. I don't make the laws, I just try to understand them. And no, of course the law does NOT equal common sense. I'm a legal studies major and I know that probably better than you do. even though I'm for the legalization of ALL plants, meth is just plain evil. That shit is fucked six ways to Sunday, and I don't think ANYONE should be taking it for any reason! Quoting: Lenny 1222542So what percentage of 9 grams do you think one box is? Understand what the laws are implying, that information is the real world. The laws are just arbitrary decisions by a small minority within it. Those people will only help themselves, even if you are getting hurt, they will still sell you things that can legally kill you. What they will not do, is allow you to gain an advantage. You will find this when you begin to think your own thoughts more often. What this should show you if that your studies didn't inform you of the world you would be ultimately interacting in. Have you ever taken meth? And. If it's here, then someone's going to try and do it. Whether you can handle it or not is up to how you develop your sense of awareness. Whether it's in response and reflection of society, or something deeper within. This will also help determine how you will fare in the coming events. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1239986 United States01/31/2011 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905186So if I buy nails to fix the porch, gun powder for my reloads, and a pipe and a couple of pipe caps for my plumbing job all in the same day (or worse, the same place) I am somehow guilty of manufacturing something illegal? No. Simply purchasing ingredients or supplies is not enough for an arrest... If ingredients or a few supplies is all you need for suspicion then I pity the next diabetic that buys a spoon for his soup when he picks up a new supply of needles! One the needles a diabetic uses aren't good to main line. Two there are limits on the amount of Black Powder you can buy at one time with out permits .... I use to buy 500 lbs at a time for my cannon and for friends with artillery. I had to have an ATF approved powder magiziane and a briefcase full of documents to do so. So you would turn in your fellow citizens for purchasing everyday items? I lost all respect for you Nikki. The last thing I figured was that you would turn into a fucking brownshirt. Especially since it doesn't go with your pumps. Oh well. You sound like a person whonever had to deal first-hand with the horrors of methamphetamines. Lucky you.. You have no idea what I've had to deal with, and it's not the point at all. |
| JimmyK User ID: 397865 United States01/31/2011 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings, I don't believe you can be arrested for what is on your shopping list let alone charged with a Felony. That list can however raise an issue of probable cause to pay the guy a visit. During that visit is likely to be where something came up that led to an arrest. Likely not a Member of Mensa nor qualified to become one as there would have been no reason for a guy to purchase the items together thereby raising suspicion. Did the article say it was the guys first time in the store? At any rate I understand the title but don't really see it as accurate. Regards JimmyK |
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