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HOW TO ENTER HEAVEN/PARADISE/NIRVANA/KINGDOM OF GOD/THE LIGHT/SOURCE?

 
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Like the other poster said-
Love God
Love your neighbor as yourself


God wants to be loved, not worshiped.
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What is the difference?
 Quoting: FreedomStands

God is my Father, truly. I ask Him for help, guidance, etc. That is the best I can explain it, I love God. Yes I get on my knees in prayer but only because I can't sit on His lap.
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The 10 Commandments - God's Revelation in the Old Testament

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.
TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.
SIX: 'You shall not murder.
SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.
EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

2 commandment given by Jezus. The second one, in blue, if you want to be perfect.
Matt 19
[17] And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments."
[18] He said to him, "Which?" And Jesus said, "You shall not kill, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness,
[19] Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
[20] The young man said to him, "All these I have observed; what do I still lack?"
[21] Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
[22] When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful; for he had great possessions.

Some say Jezus is God, look at the green line.
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Thank you! I'll add some or all of those!

Can you provide any more lists?
 Quoting: FreedomStands

You are welcome.
As far as i know this is the list of commandments. The other post show's info about what is from God and not and how to recognize it. Like this in Jas.3:
[14] But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth.
[15] This wisdom is not such as comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, devilish.
[16] For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.
[17] But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, without uncertainty or insincerity.
[18] And the harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
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The list now includes:

1. Worshiping only God
2. Respecting all people
3. Being humble
4. Being honest
5. Living a moral life
6. Being generous with time and money
7. Practicing what you preach; not being a hypocrite
8. Rejecting self-righteousness
9. Forfeiting grudges
10. Forgiving others

11. Show love rather than hate
12. Wish everyone love, light, good health, and all the best
13. Don't hurt another, yourself, or anything intentionally ever in any way
14. Treat what is present with love and care
15. Love unconditionally, and ask for nothing in return
16. Refrain from judging and defining things
17. Love God
18. Love your neighbor

19. Take no other Gods besides the One God
20. Don't give God an image or form
21. Don't believe in a God with an image or form
22. Avoid saying crude things about God
23. Avoid saying things which make God seem less powerful
24. Keep every day sanctified by right conduct
25. Be respectful and kind of your elders
26. Treat everyone as your elder
27. Avoid killing things

28. Don't betray people, remain loyal
29. Keep your promises if you can
30. Don't steal things, wait for permission from the owner
31. Don't lie about people or say bad things about them
32. Be content with what is yours
33. Don't be self righteous about your goodness
34. Give to the poor, help in charity and aid
35. Share whatever is excess for you, and give out freely
36. Do what pleases your heart and makes you feel good about yourself and others.

37. Ask God for help, guidance, and whatever else
38. Avoid bitter jealousy
39. Avoid deeply inconsiderate ambitions
40. Don't boast and avoid personal arrogance
41. Avoid violence and violent, hurtful practices
42. Be open to reason and reasoning
43. Don't assume you know everything or anything for certain
44. Be peaceful and promote peacefulness in every way
45. Ask forgiveness from God for your errors and mistakes

46. Teaches what one believes is most beneficial
47. Maintains these ethics as best as possible
48. Try to be aware of the needs of others
49. Try to see things from the perspective of others
50. Try to avoid unintentional harm or likely harm

51. Learn from your experiences and adapt to new information
52. Place yourself and all down a path you find beneficial
53. Never tell anyone to do anything destructive or harmful
54. Be courageous in keeping to right and beneficial conduct
55. Be beneficient, give rewards and gifts to others freely

56. Cherish and appreciate all you can and everything
57. Release conflicts, judgment, and things to God
58. Pay attention to yourself and your conduct, stay good
59. Do not persecute, oppress, or harass anyone
60. Do not pursue anyone with ill intentions towards harm

61. Understand your weaknesses and limitations
62. Study the scriptures and religious knowledge carefully
63. Pray to God and seek God's gentle inspiration
64. Never be too sure of yourself, tread carefully
65. Be compassionate to all those in trouble in any way

66. Seek prosperity and benefit for all
67. Do not get caught up in what you can't help, but always try your best
68. Do not be too materialistic or get caught up in it
69. Seek satisfaction in God and right conduct

70. Be honorable, equitable, and fair in all dealings
71. Have convinctions towards good things, and God
72. Respond to goodness and evil with only goodness
73. Maintain a character strong in right conduct and good intentions and beliefs that are beneficial and peaceful

74. Acknowledge the efforts of all good people including Jesus and anyone who has done good
75. Admit to your mistakes and change your conduct for the better
76. Accept all good things that come to you with gratitude to God and anyone who is kind and provides
77. Devote yourself to promoting goodness in yourself and others

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I'd like to thank everyone who has helped out and posted here so far! Thank you so much for all your assistance!

If you do not believe in heaven, paradise, the kingdom of God, God, or anything else religious, you can still submit a list of the qualities you find best and most excellent.

I'd truly appreciate it!

Thanks again!
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Would anyone else like to help? I'd really appreciate it.
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I'm sure there are standards and qualities you believe pertain to excellence in a person! Please list all such qualities and behaviors!
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Anyone? I'd really appreciate the help.
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Hey OP.

You should read the description of Heaven and what you do once you get there. Sounds like a real drag.
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I mainly used the word "heaven" as a way to attract both theistic and atheistic visitors to this thread.

This thread isn't really about heaven so much as what you consider the qualities of an excellent person and creating a list of those actions and qualities so that I can add them to the central list.

After we add the list, we can begin to remove repeated entries to simplify the list and make it more concise.

Most people have some standards of what they consider good, excellent, and ethical behavior. That is what the question is asking for.

If you can provide a list of what you think are the best qualities and those which you most approve of honestly, that would be really wonderful and helpful.
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Of course, I understand the point of the thread and didn't meant to derail it but man, Heaven sounds like a drag in the Bible. I'm not entirely sure why anyone would want to spend an eternity waiting for the turn to wash gods feet. :(
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Of course, I understand the point of the thread and didn't meant to derail it but man, Heaven sounds like a drag in the Bible. I'm not entirely sure why anyone would want to spend an eternity waiting for the turn to wash gods feet.
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Is that what it says? I might not know too much about that. You can list the things it says about what happens in heaven here if you want.

What I really wanted to know was what qualities you personally find most excellent. It would be great if you could list such behaviors and qualities in the form of a list so I can add it to my central list.
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"Ye must be born again". These were the words of Jesus Christ when asked the same question. But what is meant by this statement?


Being born again is to be transformed spiritually so that you spirit is quickened and made alive unto God by the New Birth. Your desires change, no longer do you desire to hate others, but you find that your heart has been changed to love your enemies. You are then able to forgive others who offend you. Being born again changes your heart so that you desire to follow God's instructions rather than to rebel and to sin. Being born again changes your sin nature to the nature of God's righteousness. And that is what is required to go to heaven, not all these endless rules of do and don't, but a changed heart that can only be done as a work of repentance to the believer, and one of transformation on the part of God.
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"Ye must be born again". These were the words of Jesus Christ when asked the same question. But what is meant by this statement?


Being born again is to be transformed spiritually so that you spirit is quickened and made alive unto God by the New Birth. Your desires change, no longer do you desire to hate others, but you find that your heart has been changed to love your enemies. You are then able to forgive others who offend you. Being born again changes your heart so that you desire to follow God's instructions rather than to rebel and to sin. Being born again changes your sin nature to the nature of God's righteousness. And that is what is required to go to heaven, not all these endless rules of do and don't, but a changed heart that can only be done as a work of repentance to the believer, and one of transformation on the part of God.
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Can you create a list for me that includes being born and what comes after?

How does one become born again?

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Would anyone else like to list the qualities you find best and most excellent? This is despite your belief or disbelief in God or an afterlife.
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All you have to do is believe that Jesus was the Son Of God, that he died for your sins and rose again. Thats it. Thats all.Repenting of your sins would help you on judgement day but the ONLY requirement is to believe in the things above.

John 3:16
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All you have to do is believe that Jesus was the Son Of God, that he died for your sins and rose again. Thats it. Thats all.Repenting of your sins would help you on judgement day but the ONLY requirement is to believe in the things above.

John 3:16
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Ok.

What are the qualities of an excellent person?
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All you have to do is believe that Jesus was the Son Of God, that he died for your sins and rose again. Thats it. Thats all.Repenting of your sins would help you on judgement day but the ONLY requirement is to believe in the things above.

John 3:16
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I added the repentence thing at least! Thanks!

So what qualities do you think are most excellent in a person?
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there are two server to chose in the now - 2003 or 2008

btw..is this 2005
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What do you mean?
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Please feel free to list the qualities you think are best.
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"Ye must be born again". These were the words of Jesus Christ when asked the same question. But what is meant by this statement?


Being born again is to be transformed spiritually so that you spirit is quickened and made alive unto God by the New Birth. Your desires change, no longer do you desire to hate others, but you find that your heart has been changed to love your enemies. You are then able to forgive others who offend you. Being born again changes your heart so that you desire to follow God's instructions rather than to rebel and to sin. Being born again changes your sin nature to the nature of God's righteousness. And that is what is required to go to heaven, not all these endless rules of do and don't, but a changed heart that can only be done as a work of repentance to the believer, and one of transformation on the part of God.
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Can you create a list for me that includes being born and what comes after?

How does one become born again?
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Being born again is a spiritual re-birth...it is the same as bein born, except it is a spiritual birth. This is primarily a work of God in the life of those who are "believers". So here is how it happens:


1. The Holy Spirit convicts the person of sin. They realize that they cannot please God, that they cannot do anything but sin, and that they feel trapped by their sin nature. They are frustrated because no matter how hard they try, they continue to fail God. This is what Jesus Christ meant by "come unto me all ye that labor, and are heavy ladden, and I will give you rest." But the new birth begins with being convicted about sin, the sin nature.


2. The person repents of their sin, and by faith accepts the life of Jesus Christ to change their heart's desires. This is what many Christians mean by "accepting Jesus Christ into your heat." He doesn't actually come into your physical heart, but He does change your desires, so that you are capable to live a holy and a righteous life. This is the only way into heaven.


3. The spirit is made alive, by the work of the Holy Spirit. Until then, the spirit within man is dead. it is like a phone that is not connected; it is dead and cannot communicate, but when the spirit is made alive in Christ, it is like the line of communication is "hooked up" and you can then "hear the Lord's voice". You can't actually hear the Lord's voice with your ears, but it is a perception deep within your conscience. The phone line is now hooked up, and you can communicate with the living God. Until then, your spirit is dead, and no communication can occur. NONE! You cannot perceive God's existance, you cannot perceive anything in the spirit, for your spirit is dead!



4. The person begins to mature spiritually. Like a new birth, all things are new, it is like you have a new life but like a baby, you need nourishment. The new Christian receives nourishment by the word of God, and by spending time alone with the Lord through prayer. Now that the "line is hooked up" now you can properly receive instructions from the Lord, you can now follow Him through your life, it now has meaning and purpose, but you also need to mature. There are many threats along the way that can hinder your spiritual growth or stop it altogether.


5. Righteousness comes through the New Birth. What you could not do before, now comes naturally, this is because your heart has new desires, you no longer enjoy sin, but now you find that the desire to do it is gone, and now you are free to live a life that pleases God, and that brings eternal life through Jesus Christ. All attempts to live a righteous life without the new birth will fail. Trying to live right through the power of the fallen nature will only bring frustration because it is your nature to sin, and to commit sin, but when changed, it is a new life; that life needs to be developed to fully mature into the full stature of Jesus Christ. To receive supernatural power, to do miracles and to heal through your spirit and not your "flesh". Only this can lead to eternal life.
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That is beautiful! I love how you organized that too! Thank you so much!

Are there any other related lists you could make?
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Perhaps what a spiritually mature person looks like and the qualities they have?
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We are human we will sin. That's the way it is. No amount of good works will get you into heaven. You should follow the golden rule and the ten commandments but we sooner or later are going to screw up.

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven and all you need for that is to give your soul to him and you are saved. He will forgive any sin except one. That is blasphemy. That one He's dead set against. Oh well He's God so He decides what he'll put up with now won't He?
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Also, can you tell me what the people prior to Christ (even though he has always existed) seemed like and were aware of when they went through this process?
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We are human we will sin. That's the way it is. No amount of good works will get you into heaven. You should follow the golden rule and the ten commandments but we sooner or later are going to screw up.

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven and all you need for that is to give your soul to him and you are saved. He will forgive any sin except one. That is blasphemy. That one He's dead set against. Oh well He's God so He decides what he'll put up with now won't He?
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Can you tell me what blasphemy is in detail and what all the things that would be blasphemy are?

Also, what is the golden rule?

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Does anyone have a list of qualities they find most excellent in a person?
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Does anyone have a list of qualities they find most excellent in a person?
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They stand up for what they know is right all the time

is the most important quality i think...

because without that you can not stand up for the other qualities ... you'll never want to fight for them ...
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Does anyone have a list of qualities they find most excellent in a person?
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They stand up for what they know is right all the time

is the most important quality i think...

because without that you can not stand up for the other qualities ... you'll never want to fight for them ...
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Ok. I'll add that, thanks. Could you list more?
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Re: HOW TO ENTER HEAVEN/PARADISE/NIRVANA/KINGDOM OF GOD/THE LIGHT/SOURCE?
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46. Teaches what one believes is most beneficial.
47. Maintains these ethics as best as possible.
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46. Teaches what one believes is most beneficial.
47. Maintains these ethics as best as possible.
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That works ... Good choice of word using "teaches' .... we all must be teachers and students at the same time ...

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