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Mother Mary

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Glad you are okay. I believe that the Egyptian people are doing the right thing.
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Good to see Egypt back online... keep up the fight!
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This thread is not pinned, anyone understand it???
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This thread is not pinned, anyone understand it???
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Not always good to have a thread pinned. It really does attract trolls and shills. Some of the best threads on GLP have never been pinned and they have the best information.
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Glad to see you are ok Babsi.
Again, eyes on the sky,....

Keeping you in my thoughts, and a11 should work out,.... soon.
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Thanks for checking in with the GLP family! Seriously, glad to see you safe. hf
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02/06/2011 11:49 PM
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This a blog piece from a .org, FWIW.

Today started with two very important facts: 1) The Mass resignation of important Mubarak regime figures from their posts in the Ruling National Democratic Party, including his longtime crony Safwat ElSherif and his own son Gamal Mubarak ; 2) The number of people who called me asking what the next move for the Tahrir Protesters will be and were disappointed by the lack of a clear way forward to the movement. They feared the protests would lose momentum and this historic moment would slowly dwindle and die.

Now, I am not a leader of this movement, and god knows I would be loathe to name myself as a spokesperson for the 5 million individuals nationwide who have joined these protests. If anything, I am simply a promoter and a participant who is way too proud of the fact that this is a movement with no leaders or representatives. In many ways this has helped the cohesion and unity of those protests: people agreed on a set of demands that promote general democracy, accountability and freedom. Demands that promote self-governing and personal rights no matter what your ideological leanings may be. We thought that was enough, and now we are thinking it might not be after all.

If we are to assess the successes of the movement so far, there have been a few key victories, but not any truly major ones. Mubarak says he won’t run again, but he won’t step down. Mubarak will change the constitution but will use the same parliament that has election fraud indictment tarring over 85% of its members. Even with today’s news, what the NDP did so far has been more cosmetic than actual change. We shouldn’t be appeased by it. Mubarak is still President, Emergency law is still in effect, the parliament hasn’t been dissolved, new elections haven’t been called for and the constitution is still that flexible document that the ruling party can change whenever they see fit. Even though we appear to be winning, we are not by a long shot.

Now, regarding the way forward, so far we seem to have two options on the table : 1) For the Jan 25 protests to remain as is: anarchic yet goal-oriented; & 2) the Wisemen’s council , which is currently being promoted as the third option between the Government’s Stubbornness and the Protesters unyielding persistence . They are gaining traction amongst those who do need leaders to represent their views and negotiate with the government, and their proposal is worth considering. The problem with the Wisemen’s council as a third option is this: while it is respectable and contains prominent Egyptian leaders and businessmen, I am not sure what leverage they got on either side or if either side would accept it as a mediating force.

That being said, the status quo just won’t due. This lack of action and organization will be used against us (the protesters) in every way possible. The participants will start complaining about the lack of direction or movement leaders. The government will start complaining that the protesters haven’t offered a single person to represent them and negotiate with the government for them, and that the protesters don’t know what they want. Mind you, this is utter rubbish: It’s not that the protesters don’t know what they want (you can read about their demands everywhere), it’s that their demands are so nonnegotiable for them, that it makes no sense for them to engage in negotiations until a number of those demands get realized. Thus, Gridlock!

So here are my two cents: next time when you head to Tahrir, alongside blankets and food and medicine, please get some foldable tables, chairs, papers, pens, a laptop and a USB connection. Set up a bunch of tables and start registering the protesters. Get their names, ages, addresses & districts. Based on location, start organizing them into committees, and then have those committees elect leaders or representatives. Do the same in Alex, In Mansoura, in Suez, in every major Egyptian city in which the Protesters braved police suppression and came out in the thousands. Protect the Data with your life. Get encryption programs to ensure the security of the data. Use web-based tools like Google documents to input the data in, thus ensuring that even if your laptops get confiscated by State Security Goons, they won’t find anything on your harddrives. Have people outside of Egypt back-up your data daily on secure servers. Then, start building the structure.

You see, with such Proper citizen organization and segmentation, we’ll have the contact information and location of all the protesters that showed up, and that could be transformed into voting blocks in parliamentary districts: i.e. a foundation for an Egyptian Unity party. That Egyptian Unity Party will be an Umbrella party that promotes equality, democracy & accountability, without any ideological slants. It should be centrist, because we don’t want any boring Left vs. Right squabbling at that stage. Once you institute the structure, start educating the members on their rights and their obligations as citizens. Convince them to bring their friends and relatives into meeting. Establish voters’ critical mass , all under that party.

The Egyptian Unity Party, however, will not be a permanent structure, but rather a transitional entity with a clear and direct purpose: create the grassroots organization to take back the parliament and presidency in the next elections. Once sufficient votes and seats have been obtained, the party will amend the constitution to promote civil liberties, plurality, and truly democratic elections. Once that constitution is in place, the party can disband, and its elected members can start forming their own parties and collations, based on their personal beliefs and ideologies, or they can join any of the existing parties, and breathe some life into their decaying carcasses. We will end up with an actual political process and representative political parties that will actually discuss policy and have to represent those who voted for them so that they can get re-elected. Democracy in action. An old but brilliant concept. A way to ensure that no matter what, we will have a huge influence on who becomes the next Egyptian President come election day in September.

I am extremely hopeful we can do this. So far we have proved all the critics and the haters wrong. It’s time to do that again!
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02/06/2011 11:51 PM
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Second Coming is Here.
Jesus is Back.
He will feed the People Miraculously.


Tell the people of Egypt
to put out small tables in the Square,
and to place some of their food on it.
That food will feed many.

Tell everyone.

Use any means at your disposal


* * * * *


Unknown: We call on the brave of the brave. It is time to stand out and be counted. What thoughts come to mind if we should say to you, "Announce the Valentine Party"? Or if we told the scribe, "Tell the whole world that the Thames River will flood its banks in 10 days." Or if we say, "There will be an earthquake in Israel."

Use your own discernment. Do not begin small and increase. Instead, make a big splash. Send terror into the hearts of the dark. There is nothing they fear more than miracles and the faith of the people. We are with you. (end)

Let's together line up a line of attack, and then JUST DO IT.

through Helen Engel
5th February, 2011


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Old Trout

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02/06/2011 11:52 PM
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I'm glad you are OK. I have felt very proud of the Egyptians that have surrounded and protected everything from the security forces too. Humbling to watch and can only hope the same would happen here - if, god forbid, we ever rebelled.

The way the army handled it is just amazing. Hope our army would do the same.
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02/06/2011 11:57 PM
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Greetings and Salutations;

This is a message for the entire planet; the time has come for freedom to be returned to the people of earth. What you see in the middle east is bigger than anyone's religion or political leanings. That which transpires now wells up from the heart, from the gut. People need to be free from the constraints that have been on them for years now, being fodder for the power elite. Some seem to forget that america came about by revolution People fought to be free from the tyranny of britain. Black, white and red, fought in that war. In these modern times we tend to forget who all was involved to gain that freedom and as the saying goes, those who forget history tend to repeat it.

It's in the atmosphere and no amount of politicos had this planned. They cannot guide the 'Infinite' to a decided result or bend it to their will. The best any leader can do at this time is hang on for the ride. Each and every person living on this planet is going to have a gut check because change is present but will the sort of change that you can handle? Fear rises first, which often manifests as violence. People often say they want freedom, the trouble is they have become so accustomed to some overlord telling them what to do they are frightened of what absolute freedom means. Such a simple thing, treat others like you want to to be treated. Is that so hard? Apparently for some. That means a lack of control and for control freaks, that's a scary proposition.


I do not say this lightly. This call presents a most clear description about what is happening worldwide right now, and some of the key parts of history that has led us to this point. I do not personally know the name of the one providing this information, and I have not fact checked anything. But I feel that he is likely one of our “White Knights”.

This call is from an apparent insider whose understanding is shared in the call. It is one of the best descriptions of how the current world situation has developed that I have ever heard. And it’s only 112 minutes long.

As events are transpiring very rapidly, I felt that many of you would benefit from listening to this call.

It is a powerful history lesson, at the very least. If you want the real history, listen to this. I feel this is an excellent call. Only 2 people are talking. As I mentioned, I do not know who is “Contact 2″, but he has been there, and done that, and seen this. Again, I sense he is one of the “White Knights”, providing us the information we are needing at this time.


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02/07/2011 12:18 AM
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Thanks guys!

Seems I will have another sleepless night. Previous nights I was either kept awake from gun shots and/or glued to the tv and on the phone with my friends to check on them and to get updates.
 Quoting: Babsi


Yaaa your back and ok~! applause2
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YEAH!

Fuckin doom deprivation almost killed me!
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depervstion?? are you kidding me?
this was the closest thing to REAL doom we have had in a long time.
Thanks for bringing the site back up :)
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Hey girl, I was wondering how I'd EVER get in touch with you again. And all our work on the Sumerian Tablet would've been gone too. Didn't have much time lately to work on that, but still! Good to see you again ;)
 Quoting: Babsi

ahhhhh Babsi!! :D
i just took such a deep sigh of releif
i thought the same thing and have been sooo worried about you with all this and thinking "omfg, with everything going on over there.. babsi is going to try to get on glp and see nothing and no one :("
We will for sure get back to research when things calm down some ;)
Great to see you!
how are you hanging in there?
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This thread is not pinned, anyone understand it???
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muaha
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Thank you all for your kind words and some interesting input. I'm busy as I have to get back to work and still working through all the things that have mounted up in the internet outage and 2 weeks "forced vacation".
I'm hanging in there, tomorrow are more mass protests as Wael Ghonim was released. I hope he will be able to start some talks with the Opposition Groups so the youth can finally be represented. No idea right now what's happening, I have to take each day as it comes sort of speak;)

@NiNzrez - thanks for your nice post and I removed it as you requested. Sorry I just now saw it but did it right away! We'll be in touch hf
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Thanks guys!

Seems I will have another sleepless night. Previous nights I was either kept awake from gun shots and/or glued to the tv and on the phone with my friends to check on them and to get updates.
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Yaaa your back and ok~! applause2
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Thanks guys!

Seems I will have another sleepless night. Previous nights I was either kept awake from gun shots and/or glued to the tv and on the phone with my friends to check on them and to get updates.
 Quoting: Babsi


Yaaa your back and ok~! applause2
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yup - I'm still holding down the fort here.

How are you doing in the Down and Under? You guys have some serious bad weather and now wild fires to deal with. Hope you are safe! hf
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02/08/2011 11:56 AM
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Hi guys,
just a quick note that I'm ok, I haven't read any threads yet, needless to say I'm sure you can imagine I have many other priorities right now to take care of, not only online.

It was a very eventful couple of days for me, I don't even know where to begin, such a long story since we were cut off from internet.

So I guess I'll do it like this for now - you can ask me any questions you're interested in and I'll try to answer as best and soon as I can.

A quick personal message - I am extremely proud of the egyptian people that have stood up for their rights, refused to be intimidated by the Security Force, all the men that are protecting our properties and lives, staying out there every night. One can only be humbled by what they have done in the last days.

I am also behind the protesters to not give up, the military will not shoot, even if they tell you to go home. Mubarak is hanging by a thread and wants to try to hang on, if you allow it, he will try to regain power. Everybody agrees he will punish all those involved in the last days events, he will arrest, torture and even kill people, as well as any opposition leaders as we've seen. He'll be back to his old tricks. He must step down now!! All my egyptian GLP'ers out there, I hope you are fine, that neither you, your family, friends and properties got harmed in the last days from the Mafia.

Please only serious questions and be patient as I have many other things to take care of right now.

Peace!!!

PS: Thanks to all the people all over the world who have spoken out positively and supported the egyptian people.
 Quoting: Babsi

BABSI doesn't sound like an Egyptian name. How about "Ramses" or "Tutankhamun (you know, King Tut)".
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Hi guys,
just a quick note that I'm ok, I haven't read any threads yet, needless to say I'm sure you can imagine I have many other priorities right now to take care of, not only online.

It was a very eventful couple of days for me, I don't even know where to begin, such a long story since we were cut off from internet.

So I guess I'll do it like this for now - you can ask me any questions you're interested in and I'll try to answer as best and soon as I can.

A quick personal message - I am extremely proud of the egyptian people that have stood up for their rights, refused to be intimidated by the Security Force, all the men that are protecting our properties and lives, staying out there every night. One can only be humbled by what they have done in the last days.

I am also behind the protesters to not give up, the military will not shoot, even if they tell you to go home. Mubarak is hanging by a thread and wants to try to hang on, if you allow it, he will try to regain power. Everybody agrees he will punish all those involved in the last days events, he will arrest, torture and even kill people, as well as any opposition leaders as we've seen. He'll be back to his old tricks. He must step down now!! All my egyptian GLP'ers out there, I hope you are fine, that neither you, your family, friends and properties got harmed in the last days from the Mafia.

Please only serious questions and be patient as I have many other things to take care of right now.

Peace!!!

PS: Thanks to all the people all over the world who have spoken out positively and supported the egyptian people.
 Quoting: Babsi

BABSI doesn't sound like an Egyptian name. How about "Ramses" or "Tutankhamun (you know, King Tut)".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259316


LOL - no, I stick with my nickname, and I'm not egyptian, just living here. So I thought it was a bit cheesy to use something like Cleopatra or something. I'm female btw...ppl still think I'm a male egyptian with a odd name, chuckle
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LOL - no, I stick with my nickname, and I'm not egyptian, just living here. So I thought it was a bit cheesy to use something like Cleopatra or something. I'm female btw...ppl still think I'm a male egyptian with a odd name, chuckle
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Hi Babsi. Can you get Egypt to go with the New Jerusalem modern government system of Jesus? Spread the word around. Seems they need leadership.






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LOL - no, I stick with my nickname, and I'm not egyptian, just living here. So I thought it was a bit cheesy to use something like Cleopatra or something. I'm female btw...ppl still think I'm a male egyptian with a odd name, chuckle
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Hi Babsi. Can you get Egypt to go with the New Jerusalem modern government system of Jesus? Spread the word around. Seems they need leadership.






Fri Jan 11/25/10
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I think by Septomber 43th we will be all sorted out!

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Babsi.. is there a glp thread your posting on with whats going on in your country??
I have been stuck on Al Zazeera all day. I'm on the edge of my seat.
Hoping all this ends in a smooth transition
hf
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