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Half of AZ to Have Rolling Blackouts Due to COLD Weather. Not Kidding

 
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I'm out in FAR NE Scottsdale - nearly to Bartlett Damn (it's about 2.4 miles north of us) in the Rio Verde area. Our lows last night were in the mid-twenties. Tonight they're expecting lows down to high teens. We even had a pretty good shot at snow last night, but didn't get enough to matter.

We have 3 Heat Pumps that, thank heaven, have emergency heating coils in their compressors and in their Air Handlers. When the compressors become inefficient at about 40 degrees and lower, the electric coils kick on and give the compressors a "boost" of heat to transfer into the house. However, although this works, the process is slow and the compressors and the coils must remain on for three times longer than they would normally run. The coils in the compressor also act to keep the compressors from icing up and stoping all together.

If one of the compressors should fail, we also have 50 AMP coils in the air handlers in the attic. If a compressor were to fail, we can turn off the outside compressor unit (or it shuts off automatically) and turn on those big coils in the air handlers. Those coils turned on by setting the T-Stats to "emergency heat" and the fan set to "on" vs to "auto" gives us an instant big electric furnace.

So yes, most of us are running between five and fifteen tons of AC most of the night to stay warm. To make it worse, our house has lots of 12' ceilings in most rooms. The entry hall is 18' tall. And the floors are mostly travertine marble over slab. (Colder than a well-diggers' ass most of the time!) Those things are helpful in summer in terms of keeping the house cooler. But now, they're combining to make it impossible to get the house above 70 degrees during the night. While not cold, it's not comfortable or "cozy" either.

SRP is turning the power off in our area. We got shut down for about 30 minutes this AM and expect more this evening when it's forecast to get seriously cold tonight.

We have two gas fired fireplaces with logs in them. They run on Propane (no natural gas out here) and use about 1 gal on propane per hour for both units running. But at least if I should need to, I can take off the glass screen and put a kettle or a sauce pan directly on the ceramic logs and the flame underneath them.
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Lived in Fountain Hills for 11 years, love Rio Verde and yes, get's coal miner cold in the desert. Stay warm my friend.
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Hmm. TX and AZ are considered "uppity" states by the administration; problem children.

Now TX will be taking a hand-out from Mexico. Yep. Mexico is going to help out Texas by sharing some electricity services. That's the report.

Fishy indeed.
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02/02/2011 11:27 PM
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To: AC 1251106

Do you like Prescott? I looked into it but online it looked like home prices were very high. True?
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I moved here from an island in Florida took awhile to get used to being a mile high. But I love it here, the people are awesome; for the most part the weather is great.
The home prices are high but we don't have a lot of crime. I am sure the gun laws has something to do with it. lol
I rented a small cabin for $500 a month. My electric bill was $25 last month. Overall it's less expensive then Florida.
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Also the prices you see the homes "listed" for are nowhere near what they sell for. Check out some areas just outside of Prescott (10-20min) like Chino Valley, Cottonwood, CampVerde....check water tables...lots of self sufficient folk there, Yavapai College, NAU not too far.Beautiful part of the country.
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Re: Half of AZ to Have Rolling Blackouts Due to COLD Weather. Not Kidding
I'm out in FAR NE Scottsdale - nearly to Bartlett Damn (it's about 2.4 miles north of us) in the Rio Verde area. Our lows last night were in the mid-twenties. Tonight they're expecting lows down to high teens. We even had a pretty good shot at snow last night, but didn't get enough to matter.

We have 3 Heat Pumps that, thank heaven, have emergency heating coils in their compressors and in their Air Handlers. When the compressors become inefficient at about 40 degrees and lower, the electric coils kick on and give the compressors a "boost" of heat to transfer into the house. However, although this works, the process is slow and the compressors and the coils must remain on for three times longer than they would normally run. The coils in the compressor also act to keep the compressors from icing up and stoping all together.

If one of the compressors should fail, we also have 50 AMP coils in the air handlers in the attic. If a compressor were to fail, we can turn off the outside compressor unit (or it shuts off automatically) and turn on those big coils in the air handlers. Those coils turned on by setting the T-Stats to "emergency heat" and the fan set to "on" vs to "auto" gives us an instant big electric furnace.

So yes, most of us are running between five and fifteen tons of AC most of the night to stay warm. To make it worse, our house has lots of 12' ceilings in most rooms. The entry hall is 18' tall. And the floors are mostly travertine marble over slab. (Colder than a well-diggers' ass most of the time!) Those things are helpful in summer in terms of keeping the house cooler. But now, they're combining to make it impossible to get the house above 70 degrees during the night. While not cold, it's not comfortable or "cozy" either.

SRP is turning the power off in our area. We got shut down for about 30 minutes this AM and expect more this evening when it's forecast to get seriously cold tonight.

We have two gas fired fireplaces with logs in them. They run on Propane (no natural gas out here) and use about 1 gal on propane per hour for both units running. But at least if I should need to, I can take off the glass screen and put a kettle or a sauce pan directly on the ceramic logs and the flame underneath them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 642285

Lived in Fountain Hills for 11 years, love Rio Verde and yes, get's coal miner cold in the desert. Stay warm my friend.
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You two stay warm. Funny converstation actually considering the rest of the country. Here in Paradise Valley, I am happy for my "vintage" wood burning Fireplace, circa 1973. For folks outside of AZ, due to air quality new construction no longer allows wood burning fireplaces. Go figure! Glad to know I have fellow Zonies here in GLP. That you, Jan;)?
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02/02/2011 11:46 PM
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Re: Half of AZ to Have Rolling Blackouts Due to COLD Weather. Not Kidding
Same in Austin TX. Think FEMA is testing its scenarios? cool2
 Quoting: True GRiT

Hmmmmm, good question.
 Quoting: It's hot here



D.H.S.

Arizona and Texas are bucking the fed regularly.

The reasons given don't make sense. They did know this is winter. LOL
It reminds me of Enron when they held back supplies and drove up prices. Any common denominators between the companies in Arizona and the one in Texas?
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I'm in Tempe and it's cooooold as hell! Winds been blowing non stop since yesterday.
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Poor countries have rolling blackouts. Get used to it.
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Ah yes, another brilliant comment from Germany.bushfing
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Re: Half of AZ to Have Rolling Blackouts Due to COLD Weather. Not Kidding
Amazing how they have electricity in Alaska with all that cold weather up there.
Amazing how that cold will slow down the electricity to a crawl.
It gets so cold that it goes off the bottom of the scale and back to hot.
The slow electricity makes you watch Good Morning America durring lunch. And The News at Noon slowly grinds out at about dinner time.
Its better to just wake up at noon and eat dinner, then at dinner time you can find out what is going to happen tommorrow morning from the slow electricity.
Crazy isn't it.
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Re: Half of AZ to Have Rolling Blackouts Due to COLD Weather. Not Kidding
Nothing going on in Sierra Vista, AZ and it's a nippy 13 degrees.

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