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~~~WTF is THIS!?!?!?!!?!?! -- Illuminati related??? ~~~

 
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Thank you very much brother, those are both fascinating.


I gather from what you've been kind enough to share with me that you adhere to the belief that The Father, or Yahweh, or Adonai is but one of many creator God's, one of the many Elohim?

Do you also believe that these beings are imperfect as in the various Demiurge scenarios, or do you believe that these are the highest form of life, that these would have the attributes which the common man would associate with an all powerful, all knowing, omniscient being?

Do you believe that there is one of these Elohim that is far above the rest, a ruler of sorts? If so, is this the Father or Yahweh of the Torah?

Please forgive me for all of these questions, but I find your perspective fascinating and am encountering things which I have not discovered through my own research or through speaking with others who have been initiated into the mysteries through various societies.


If you are so inclined, can you please explain the relationship to Adam and Heylel? I am also a bit confused because I think you mentioned Heylel and Lucifer as two different beings.


As well, if you do not believe that Heylel fell and became satan, can you explain to me what your belief on satan is? His origins? His function?

Again I apologize I have so many questions, but what is it to live in this existence and not to question? It is part of what makes us who we are.


Thank you again brother Edward, you have been most kind in sharing these things with me.



much love,


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melchizedek, Hello ! Thanks for writing so promptly. I wanted to clarify that when I say Lucifer or Haylel. I mean the same person, Haylel Lucifer, and that something did go wrong in Eden at the Tree of Gnosis.

About Satan, Satan in my research is actually feminine. Most tentively in close relation to the Sophia Pistis or Gods Wife........ WHOAAA, Everyone, Please dont crucify me over this, I can explain more

In Rosh Algol. Medusa Constellation. The Full name is Rosh Algol Satan. and she is female.

In Qabalah the Right Pillar, or Feminine Right Brain is Severity, Left Pillar, Male Left Brain is Mercy..

Immortality is the Equilibrium or both, The Divine Hermaphrodite.

Lucifer is often seen as a Divine Hermaphrodite. Many Gnostics call Lucifer, Lucy for his feminine side.

It gets really confusing, but Ill explain more on the Demi urge Iaodaboath, and Yahweh in a later letter tonight or in the Morn..

-Edward.
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Brother Edward, just take your time explaining and if needed you do not have to explain through allegory, although I imagine that this is the way you were taught so naturally this is how it may come back to you when teaching.


Perhaps you mentioned it earlier and I missed it, but I am still very curious as to how Heylel became Adam and what you believe happened in the Garden of Eden. More specifically, the process involved. What do you believe caused Heylel's fall and what was God's role in it - as in the Elohim, Yahweh, or Demiurge?

I am very so much looking forward to you explaining these and their relationship to everything, actually I think this is what I am most excited about reading from you - the will and level of control and divinity you ascribe to these faces of God.

Also, when you yourself use the term "God" who are you speaking of?

I can tell that this is about to get complicated, but that's also when it gets good - when every dot is connected and every line drawn. I assume that you are as well, but I am a student of Sacred Geometry and have done many studies into this. Symbols are one thing that I most enjoy.



Other than the questions I asked above, I think I am on track with understanding where you are coming from - although I would much enjoy if you could elaborate on your view of satan, her role and her origin as well as what happened to Heylel after the fall if he did not become the adversary, though I can perhaps correctly infer that you mean Heylel fell to become man, to become Adam.

Of course throughout this entire thing I am dreadfully curious as to what you believe God's role was in all of this, be it the plural Elohim, the ultimate God of Yahweh, or the Demiurge, but I fear redundancy may be getting the better of me through my curiosity. I will wait patiently to hear from you again.


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That 9th gate link just keeps me thinking. Why would they put all this time and energy in this 'joke-like' project??
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That 9th gate link just keeps me thinking. Why would they put all this time and energy in this 'joke-like' project??
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Just found another project that was done by this same ArtAnts Reclamebureau Assen, and it shows the all seeying eye freakin' everywhere!

Link: [link to www.okay.nl]

Weird.......
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That 9th gate link just keeps me thinking. Why would they put all this time and energy in this 'joke-like' project??
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Just found another project that was done by this same ArtAnts Reclamebureau Assen, and it shows the all seeying eye freakin' everywhere!

Link: [link to www.okay.nl]

Weird.......
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Found out a bit more about this ArtAnts Reclamebureau Assen company, by contacting one of my old friends who moved to St. Maarten a couple of years back. He told me That they are tied to the Masonic Lodge on St. Maarten, go check this out:

[link to www.unionlodge266.com]

Check the design company link (Octagos)

If you click on it you go to this website:

[link to www.octagos.com]

And that website says:

ArtAnts

So this is proof of the fact that we have found a masonic link now!!!

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So a friend just sent me a couple links to some strange illuminati type crap.

anyone ever see this before?

click on a few of the states on this link.
[link to www.pccts.com]

here is the main site. click on the image links.
[link to www.pccts.com]

wtf
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really freaky info how did you find this?
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It also is linked to the NSA!!!!!!!!!!
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I also found that a bit strange
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So a friend just sent me a couple links to some strange illuminati type crap.

anyone ever see this before?

click on a few of the states on this link.
[link to www.pccts.com]

here is the main site. click on the image links.
[link to www.pccts.com]

wtf
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really freaky info how did you find this?
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This website (PCCTS.com) was first posted a couple of months back...

All the others named here in this topic are connected to it!

And all these websites were build by this ArtAnts Reclamebureau Assen Company.....
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It also is linked to the NSA!!!!!!!!!!
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I also found that a bit strange
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There is NO link to the NSA, somebody said that before, but he was messing these websites up with that itanimulli.com website that was set up by a kid and forwarded to the NSA website. That kid by the way, was smart and now works for DARPA...

But that whole freakin thing was going around on the web like 2 years back in time!
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It also is linked to the NSA!!!!!!!!!!
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I also found that a bit strange
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There is NO link to the NSA, somebody said that before, but he was messing these websites up with that itanimulli.com website that was set up by a kid and forwarded to the NSA website. That kid by the way, was smart and now works for DARPA...

But that whole freakin thing was going around on the web like 2 years back in time!
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Sigh....
Yes, domain redirection is easy, I know how to do it myself to anywhere !

He did a URL redirection and I thought he was a older dude. anyways...he did it as a joke.

Heres more on all you can do with a URL Redirect


Manipulating search engines (wiki)

Some years ago, redirect techniques were used to fool search engines. For example, one page could show popular search terms to search engines but redirect the visitors to a different target page. There are also cases where redirects have been used to "steal" the page rank of one popular page and use it for a different page, usually involving the 302 HTTP status code of "moved temporarily."[2][3]

Search engine providers noticed the problem and took appropriate actions[citation needed]. Usually, sites that employ such techniques to manipulate search engines are punished automatically by reducing their ranking or by excluding them from the search index.

As a result, today, such manipulations usually result in less rather than more site exposure.
[edit] Satire and criticism

In the same way that a Google bomb can be used for satire and political criticism, a domain name that conveys one meaning can be redirected to any other web page, sometimes with malicious intent. The website shadyurl.com offers a satirical service that will create an apparently "suspicious and frightening" redirection URL for even benign webpages. For example, an input of en.wikipedia.org generates 5z8.info/hookers_e4u5_inject_worm.
[edit] Manipulating visitors

URL redirection is sometimes used as a part of phishing attacks that confuse visitors about which web site they are visiting[citation needed]. Because modern browsers always show the real URL in the address bar, the threat is lessened. However, redirects can also take you to sites that will otherwise attempt to attack in other ways. For example, a redirect might take a user to a site that would attempt to trick them into downloading antivirus software and ironically installing a trojan of some sort instead.
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Don't forget the satanic ritual abuse & sacrifice which has been connected to the elites via groups like bohemian grove and I am certain other secret ones which we are not even yet aware of. The truth will come out and it will be brutal.

"IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THEY WOULD STRING US UP FROM THE LAMP POSTS." GEORGE H.W. BUSH

“if the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts.”
-George H.W. Bush
How can these elitists say this kind of stuff and get away with it?

I guess confessions to treason just aren’t what they used to be.

I think Hoover said it best:

“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”

-J. Edgar Hoover, ex-FBI director on the New World Order conspiracy

More and more people are starting to believe it exists. Now we just need sturdy lamp posts and a bunch of rope.
[link to wikiprotest.com]




Bush also said this during his interview with CBC news canada.

These criminals get a way with everything... NOT FOR LONG!
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

Thread: The real facts about your leaders / The Fascist NWO agenda
Thread: NATO funded neo-Nazi's during Yugoslav Civil War/breakup of Yugoslavia
Thread: NATO symbol is the Swastika/National Socialist Empire
Thread: the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru
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figure out the login! ;)
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there was a thread with these two links, both, on glp the other day and the guy that posted it gave the password in the thread I believe
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figure out the login! ;)
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there was a thread with these two links, both, on glp the other day and the guy that posted it gave the password in the thread I believe
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The password is "namuh" which is human backwards. It probably also means something in one ancient tongue or another knowing how these people work, probably Egyptian. Take care.


on edit: I apologize, I assumed you guys were still talking about the first website mentioned. Namuh is the password for the "member only" section of that one. For this one, I have no idea. Sorry!



much love,



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back to the 9th gate movie where there was a reference to St. Maarten...

Found a weird song of a band (Intwine) that is connected to these ArtAnts Reclamebureau as well!!

Part of the songtext

Seems like Jezus took a trip to the fucking Antilles

WTF?!! Isn't St. Maarten part of the Antilles?

The name of the song is Perfect by the band Intwine...



WTF!!??

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That 9th gate link just keeps me thinking. Why would they put all this time and energy in this 'joke-like' project??
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Perhaps it is no joke...
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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That 9th gate link just keeps me thinking. Why would they put all this time and energy in this 'joke-like' project??
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Just found another project that was done by this same ArtAnts Reclamebureau Assen, and it shows the all seeying eye freakin' everywhere!

Link: [link to www.okay.nl]

Weird.......
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Have you given any thought at all to the fanciful notion that this 'all seeing eye' might perhaps be the 'single eye of justice?' I am only a romantic, though... I see odd things everywhere, really.
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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figure out the login! ;)
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there was a thread with these two links, both, on glp the other day and the guy that posted it gave the password in the thread I believe
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The password is "namuh" which is human backwards. It probably also means something in one ancient tongue or another knowing how these people work, probably Egyptian. Take care.


on edit: I apologize, I assumed you guys were still talking about the first website mentioned. Namuh is the password for the "member only" section of that one. For this one, I have no idea. Sorry!



much love,



melchizedek
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Naamah... it is a woman's name, but it is Hebrew. I believe that it means 'pleasant' or 'lovely,' if memory serves. It may not...
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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Brother Edward, I would be pleased to explain to you who I really am through personal messaging, or maybe even in public if I feel so inclined by God (still disappointed that you will not respect my wish to not capitalize my name, perhaps petty I know, it's just a personal thing) but know that I am not under melchizedek, it is who I am.


If I gather correctly, and please forgive me if I misunderstand - now that we are passed pleasantries and the cards are out on the table, it will be easier to only learn and be learned from which has been my intention all along - do you mean that after Heylel's fall he did not become satan but became Adam?

I would very much so be thankful and pleased if you could go more in depth into this with me. I find your particular creed to be quite interesting. It's not that this is all very new to me, it's the way you come across with it I think.

I have heard before that Adam was Lucifer/Prometheus but none have been able to explain how it was a punishment to be kicked out of Heaven just go go into Eden which was before it became corrupted the closest thing to Heaven this side of it. I find this especially curious relating to the eagle which pecks out Prometheus' liver each day. Eden seems like a reward in comparison does it not?

Some say that the serpent was sent there by The Father, was a part of him, and that satan is actually a part of The Father - regressing back to the Demiurge concept - some say that all of the negative aspects of the Universe have just been thrown off on Heylel and that he is not truly satan.

As I said, I would much appreciate your clarification on these few issues and any further discussion I would be greatly thankful for as well.


much love brother Edward,



melchizedek
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melchizedek, sorry about that ! Small letter "m". Done !
Ill compose my thoughts a little and see what I can do in answering.

You seen sincere with "wanting " to understand about Heylel

Ill be back.

-Ordo
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Well brother Edward, do not take this the wrong way but I believe that I already do know about him, I am merely curious as to your perspective. I am always looking to learn, always looking to understand how other people can come to a conclusion which they support whole-heartedly as you do.


The versions that I am used to seem different than what you believe, it seems that in your version Heylel may have been vindicated of doing any wrong, as if it was following God's command to fall and become satan and not his pride and free will which led him to become the chief rebel angel, the great deceiver.

Thank you for agreeing to take the time to discuss this with me! I greatly appreciate it!





much love,


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mel,

I wrote this just now

HALLELUJAH !!!!!! Are We Actually Singing to Lucifer???... HELEL ???? Isaiah 14:12
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In Isaiah we are introduced to Lucifer known as Daystar Son of dawn. In Hebrew is name is (Helel Ben-Shachar) . We will look at the meanings of Helel, also spelled as Heylel. Haylel. Meaning "Praise or Boast"

Helel is also hallel which means "Praise in Song. hallelujah is actually a two-word phrase. hallelu, is masculine form of the Hebrew verb hallal. followed by Jah. "hallelujah"also means a joyous praise in song, to boast in God. It could also refer to someone who acts madly or foolishly (wiki)


So we do have Helel, Hallel means Praise, Mad, Foolish. followed by Jah, which means, Hallelujah ! But lets get back to Lucifer....

Isaiah 14:12

When the Lord has given you rest from your pain and turmoil and the hard service with which you were made to serve, you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: How the oppressor has ceased! How his insolence has ceased! …

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! KJV.

How you are fallen from heaven, O Day star, son of Dawn! (Helel Ben-Shachar)

How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit on the mount of congregation on the heights of Zaphon; I will ascend to the tops of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to Sheoul to the depths of the Pit. Those who see you will stare at you, and ponder over you: "Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, who made the world like a desert and overthrew its cities, who would not let his prisoners go home?

Compiled by Frank W. Nelte

Halal" is used 165 times in the Old Testament and it is translated as follows in the KJV:

117 times = Praise

14 times = Glory

10 times = Boast

8 times = Mad

3 times = Shine(d)

3 times = Foolish

2 times = Fools

2 times = Commended

2 times = Rage

1 time = Celebrate

1 time = Give

1 time = Marriage

1 time = Renowned
"This should make clear that the translators felt they should attach over a dozen different meanings to this word "Halal." The meanings are both, good and bad; both, positive and negative"

Comment by Edward: Whether its the name of Proud, Mad, Lucifer, Or Praise and Celebrate Jah
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Refer yourself to 'The Thunder, Perfect Mind.' Is this not the voice of that which is both good and bad, positive and negative, dark and light? Thunder, number 9; Truth, number 9; Woman, number 9. All things reconciled in 'Love,' my friend... this is the promise. For this, we praise Him who first loved us...
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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figure out the login! ;)
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there was a thread with these two links, both, on glp the other day and the guy that posted it gave the password in the thread I believe
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The password is "namuh" which is human backwards. It probably also means something in one ancient tongue or another knowing how these people work, probably Egyptian. Take care.


on edit: I apologize, I assumed you guys were still talking about the first website mentioned. Namuh is the password for the "member only" section of that one. For this one, I have no idea. Sorry!



much love,



melchizedek
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Naamah... it is a woman's name, but it is Hebrew. I believe that it means 'pleasant' or 'lovely,' if memory serves. It may not...
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I just realized why I thought it looked familiar - it is also an anagram for "Nahum" which is one of the books from the Old Testament.

I know they love spelling things backwards and anagrams as well.

It is a very doom filled and very short prophetic book promising all kinds of death and destruction.

The phrase backwards meaning human and the reference to a book of the Bible about destructive prophecy combined could mean the destruction and doom of humanity.


The last two verses from the book of Nahum are these:

"O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. Your people are scattered on the mountains with no one to gather them.

Nothing can heal your wound; your injury is fatal. Everyone who hears the news about you claps his hands at your fall, for who has not felt your endless cruelty?"


Maybe something, maybe nothing. Just thinking out loud.



much love,


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there was a thread with these two links, both, on glp the other day and the guy that posted it gave the password in the thread I believe
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The password is "namuh" which is human backwards. It probably also means something in one ancient tongue or another knowing how these people work, probably Egyptian. Take care.


on edit: I apologize, I assumed you guys were still talking about the first website mentioned. Namuh is the password for the "member only" section of that one. For this one, I have no idea. Sorry!



much love,



melchizedek
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Naamah... it is a woman's name, but it is Hebrew. I believe that it means 'pleasant' or 'lovely,' if memory serves. It may not...
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I just realized why I thought it looked familiar - it is also an anagram for "Nahum" which is one of the books from the Old Testament.

I know they love spelling things backwards and anagrams as well.

It is a very doom filled and very short prophetic book promising all kinds of death and destruction.

The phrase backwards meaning human and the reference to a book of the Bible about destructive prophecy combined could mean the destruction and doom of humanity.


The last two verses from the book of Nahum are these:

"O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. Your people are scattered on the mountains with no one to gather them.

Nothing can heal your wound; your injury is fatal. Everyone who hears the news about you claps his hands at your fall, for who has not felt your endless cruelty?"


Maybe something, maybe nothing. Just thinking out loud.



much love,


melchizedek
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Personally, I find that the words of the prophet Michah are much more relevant to this time, and much under-rated... they might be re-read to advantage, his message seems timely.
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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The password is "namuh" which is human backwards. It probably also means something in one ancient tongue or another knowing how these people work, probably Egyptian. Take care.


on edit: I apologize, I assumed you guys were still talking about the first website mentioned. Namuh is the password for the "member only" section of that one. For this one, I have no idea. Sorry!



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Naamah... it is a woman's name, but it is Hebrew. I believe that it means 'pleasant' or 'lovely,' if memory serves. It may not...
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I just realized why I thought it looked familiar - it is also an anagram for "Nahum" which is one of the books from the Old Testament.

I know they love spelling things backwards and anagrams as well.

It is a very doom filled and very short prophetic book promising all kinds of death and destruction.

The phrase backwards meaning human and the reference to a book of the Bible about destructive prophecy combined could mean the destruction and doom of humanity.


The last two verses from the book of Nahum are these:

"O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. Your people are scattered on the mountains with no one to gather them.

Nothing can heal your wound; your injury is fatal. Everyone who hears the news about you claps his hands at your fall, for who has not felt your endless cruelty?"


Maybe something, maybe nothing. Just thinking out loud.



much love,


melchizedek
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Personally, I find that the words of the prophet Michah are much more relevant to this time, and much under-rated... they might be re-read to advantage, his message seems timely.
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I agree sister, I was merely referencing Nahum in relation to what we were speaking of in that the password namuh was an anagram for the title of this book.


Do you believe in Christ sister?



much love,


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Naamah... it is a woman's name, but it is Hebrew. I believe that it means 'pleasant' or 'lovely,' if memory serves. It may not...
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I just realized why I thought it looked familiar - it is also an anagram for "Nahum" which is one of the books from the Old Testament.

I know they love spelling things backwards and anagrams as well.

It is a very doom filled and very short prophetic book promising all kinds of death and destruction.

The phrase backwards meaning human and the reference to a book of the Bible about destructive prophecy combined could mean the destruction and doom of humanity.


The last two verses from the book of Nahum are these:

"O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. Your people are scattered on the mountains with no one to gather them.

Nothing can heal your wound; your injury is fatal. Everyone who hears the news about you claps his hands at your fall, for who has not felt your endless cruelty?"


Maybe something, maybe nothing. Just thinking out loud.



much love,


melchizedek
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Personally, I find that the words of the prophet Michah are much more relevant to this time, and much under-rated... they might be re-read to advantage, his message seems timely.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I agree sister, I was merely referencing Nahum in relation to what we were speaking of in that the password namuh was an anagram for the title of this book.


Do you believe in Christ sister?



much love,


melchizedek
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Oh, very much... the concept of 'the Christ,' however, seems to have been muddled quite a bit, and my own feeling is that the story (as it is) was mostly fabricated in order to hide a deeper, and yet simpler, truth... that, and to protect (perhaps) a seed that was yet in germination, in order that it not be killed too soon, so to speak... All things in their good time, at His good pleasure. That is what I know best.
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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I just realized why I thought it looked familiar - it is also an anagram for "Nahum" which is one of the books from the Old Testament.

I know they love spelling things backwards and anagrams as well.

It is a very doom filled and very short prophetic book promising all kinds of death and destruction.

The phrase backwards meaning human and the reference to a book of the Bible about destructive prophecy combined could mean the destruction and doom of humanity.


The last two verses from the book of Nahum are these:

"O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. Your people are scattered on the mountains with no one to gather them.

Nothing can heal your wound; your injury is fatal. Everyone who hears the news about you claps his hands at your fall, for who has not felt your endless cruelty?"


Maybe something, maybe nothing. Just thinking out loud.



much love,


melchizedek
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Personally, I find that the words of the prophet Michah are much more relevant to this time, and much under-rated... they might be re-read to advantage, his message seems timely.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I agree sister, I was merely referencing Nahum in relation to what we were speaking of in that the password namuh was an anagram for the title of this book.


Do you believe in Christ sister?



much love,


melchizedek
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Oh, very much... the concept of 'the Christ,' however, seems to have been muddled quite a bit, and my own feeling is that the story (as it is) was mostly fabricated in order to hide a deeper, and yet simpler, truth... that, and to protect (perhaps) a seed that was yet in germination, in order that it not be killed too soon, so to speak... All things in their good time, at His good pleasure. That is what I know best.
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I don't mean to press you, but would you mind sharing part of what you believe Christ to be? After having such good conversation with brother Edward I have become very curious as to what others believe regarding alternative theories on Christ.

I don't know if you have read these discourses between him and I but if you have than you may already have an understanding of the basics of my beliefs.

Would you be kind enough to share some of yours sister?


much love,


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Personally, I find that the words of the prophet Michah are much more relevant to this time, and much under-rated... they might be re-read to advantage, his message seems timely.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I agree sister, I was merely referencing Nahum in relation to what we were speaking of in that the password namuh was an anagram for the title of this book.


Do you believe in Christ sister?



much love,


melchizedek
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Oh, very much... the concept of 'the Christ,' however, seems to have been muddled quite a bit, and my own feeling is that the story (as it is) was mostly fabricated in order to hide a deeper, and yet simpler, truth... that, and to protect (perhaps) a seed that was yet in germination, in order that it not be killed too soon, so to speak... All things in their good time, at His good pleasure. That is what I know best.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I don't mean to press you, but would you mind sharing part of what you believe Christ to be? After having such good conversation with brother Edward I have become very curious as to what others believe regarding alternative theories on Christ.

I don't know if you have read these discourses between him and I but if you have than you may already have an understanding of the basics of my beliefs.

Would you be kind enough to share some of yours sister?


much love,


melchizedek
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Well, briefly, then (as I may not have much time), the 'Christ' seems to mean the 'annointed' one, doesn't it? Jesus' name was not Jesus Christ, we know, but possibly Jesus the 'Christ,' or 'annointed.' Agreed possibly, so far, yes? But now, 'annointed' to do what? Those who are annointed have a special mission, typically,- 'annointed with the spirit to preach' being one quick example.

Now, Jesus was possibly 'Christed' to accomplish a special mission, but was it the whole mission...? To avoid pride, I would think that we would 'split it up,' so that no one man might glory in such a thing, but the glory yet go only to 'God,' whose plan it is to begin with. So, now there may have to be another 'Christ,'- another one 'annointed' to carry out the second half of the process, which some have likened to an alchemical process, which does not really beg the point, I think.

We cannot limit 'God' nor his plans nor his thoughts to one time or place or person... He is so much bigger than that, as is the world, as is heaven. We can have no idea, really, but the glimpses that we get are fairly mind-bending, don't you think?
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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I agree sister, I was merely referencing Nahum in relation to what we were speaking of in that the password namuh was an anagram for the title of this book.


Do you believe in Christ sister?



much love,


melchizedek
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Oh, very much... the concept of 'the Christ,' however, seems to have been muddled quite a bit, and my own feeling is that the story (as it is) was mostly fabricated in order to hide a deeper, and yet simpler, truth... that, and to protect (perhaps) a seed that was yet in germination, in order that it not be killed too soon, so to speak... All things in their good time, at His good pleasure. That is what I know best.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I don't mean to press you, but would you mind sharing part of what you believe Christ to be? After having such good conversation with brother Edward I have become very curious as to what others believe regarding alternative theories on Christ.

I don't know if you have read these discourses between him and I but if you have than you may already have an understanding of the basics of my beliefs.

Would you be kind enough to share some of yours sister?


much love,


melchizedek
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Well, briefly, then (as I may not have much time), the 'Christ' seems to mean the 'annointed' one, doesn't it? Jesus' name was not Jesus Christ, we know, but possibly Jesus the 'Christ,' or 'annointed.' Agreed possibly, so far, yes? But now, 'annointed' to do what? Those who are annointed have a special mission, typically,- 'annointed with the spirit to preach' being one quick example.

Now, Jesus was possibly 'Christed' to accomplish a special mission, but was it the whole mission...? To avoid pride, I would think that we would 'split it up,' so that no one man might glory in such a thing, but the glory yet go only to 'God,' whose plan it is to begin with. So, now there may have to be another 'Christ,'- another one 'annointed' to carry out the second half of the process, which some have likened to an alchemical process, which does not really beg the point, I think.

We cannot limit 'God' nor his plans nor his thoughts to one time or place or person... He is so much bigger than that, as is the world, as is heaven. We can have no idea, really, but the glimpses that we get are fairly mind-bending, don't you think?
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I appreciate your willingness to share. I believe whole-heartedly that Christ is God who became man, thus pride was not an issue because a perfect God composed entirely of love would not be subject to pride. He still existed in Heaven when He was as well here on earth as the Messiah in that He has been segmented into a Trinity in order to provide room inside of existence for evil without being evil Himself, as everything exists within God.

I agree that God is mind-bending to the extent of imagining a pure and perfect infinite and immortal being so far above any other form of life that is is simply impossible to fully wrap your mind around. To contemplate infinity and perfection is truly something worth thinking about.

I believe that the man known in English as Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, embodied that perfection and infinity yet in the vessel of a man, which is mind bending as well but the thought of it only fills me with love.

To me that's what it is all about, that's what God is, and that is how we should all relate to each other.


much love to you sister,



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Oh, very much... the concept of 'the Christ,' however, seems to have been muddled quite a bit, and my own feeling is that the story (as it is) was mostly fabricated in order to hide a deeper, and yet simpler, truth... that, and to protect (perhaps) a seed that was yet in germination, in order that it not be killed too soon, so to speak... All things in their good time, at His good pleasure. That is what I know best.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I don't mean to press you, but would you mind sharing part of what you believe Christ to be? After having such good conversation with brother Edward I have become very curious as to what others believe regarding alternative theories on Christ.

I don't know if you have read these discourses between him and I but if you have than you may already have an understanding of the basics of my beliefs.

Would you be kind enough to share some of yours sister?


much love,


melchizedek
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Well, briefly, then (as I may not have much time), the 'Christ' seems to mean the 'annointed' one, doesn't it? Jesus' name was not Jesus Christ, we know, but possibly Jesus the 'Christ,' or 'annointed.' Agreed possibly, so far, yes? But now, 'annointed' to do what? Those who are annointed have a special mission, typically,- 'annointed with the spirit to preach' being one quick example.

Now, Jesus was possibly 'Christed' to accomplish a special mission, but was it the whole mission...? To avoid pride, I would think that we would 'split it up,' so that no one man might glory in such a thing, but the glory yet go only to 'God,' whose plan it is to begin with. So, now there may have to be another 'Christ,'- another one 'annointed' to carry out the second half of the process, which some have likened to an alchemical process, which does not really beg the point, I think.

We cannot limit 'God' nor his plans nor his thoughts to one time or place or person... He is so much bigger than that, as is the world, as is heaven. We can have no idea, really, but the glimpses that we get are fairly mind-bending, don't you think?
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I appreciate your willingness to share. I believe whole-heartedly that Christ is God who became man, thus pride was not an issue because a perfect God composed entirely of love would not be subject to pride. He still existed in Heaven when He was as well here on earth as the Messiah in that He has been segmented into a Trinity in order to provide room inside of existence for evil without being evil Himself, as everything exists within God.

I agree that God is mind-bending to the extent of imagining a pure and perfect infinite and immortal being so far above any other form of life that is is simply impossible to fully wrap your mind around. To contemplate infinity and perfection is truly something worth thinking about.

I believe that the man known in English as Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, embodied that perfection and infinity yet in the vessel of a man, which is mind bending as well but the thought of it only fills me with love.

To me that's what it is all about, that's what God is, and that is how we should all relate to each other.


much love to you sister,



melchizedek
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Many have shared this faith of yours over the years, and many will cling to it... May it serve you well, brother, both here and hereafter.
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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I don't mean to press you, but would you mind sharing part of what you believe Christ to be? After having such good conversation with brother Edward I have become very curious as to what others believe regarding alternative theories on Christ.

I don't know if you have read these discourses between him and I but if you have than you may already have an understanding of the basics of my beliefs.

Would you be kind enough to share some of yours sister?


much love,


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Well, briefly, then (as I may not have much time), the 'Christ' seems to mean the 'annointed' one, doesn't it? Jesus' name was not Jesus Christ, we know, but possibly Jesus the 'Christ,' or 'annointed.' Agreed possibly, so far, yes? But now, 'annointed' to do what? Those who are annointed have a special mission, typically,- 'annointed with the spirit to preach' being one quick example.

Now, Jesus was possibly 'Christed' to accomplish a special mission, but was it the whole mission...? To avoid pride, I would think that we would 'split it up,' so that no one man might glory in such a thing, but the glory yet go only to 'God,' whose plan it is to begin with. So, now there may have to be another 'Christ,'- another one 'annointed' to carry out the second half of the process, which some have likened to an alchemical process, which does not really beg the point, I think.

We cannot limit 'God' nor his plans nor his thoughts to one time or place or person... He is so much bigger than that, as is the world, as is heaven. We can have no idea, really, but the glimpses that we get are fairly mind-bending, don't you think?
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine




I appreciate your willingness to share. I believe whole-heartedly that Christ is God who became man, thus pride was not an issue because a perfect God composed entirely of love would not be subject to pride. He still existed in Heaven when He was as well here on earth as the Messiah in that He has been segmented into a Trinity in order to provide room inside of existence for evil without being evil Himself, as everything exists within God.

I agree that God is mind-bending to the extent of imagining a pure and perfect infinite and immortal being so far above any other form of life that is is simply impossible to fully wrap your mind around. To contemplate infinity and perfection is truly something worth thinking about.

I believe that the man known in English as Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, embodied that perfection and infinity yet in the vessel of a man, which is mind bending as well but the thought of it only fills me with love.

To me that's what it is all about, that's what God is, and that is how we should all relate to each other.


much love to you sister,



melchizedek
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Many have shared this faith of yours over the years, and many will cling to it... May it serve you well, brother, both here and hereafter.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine



I only cling to it sister because I have entertained almost every other theory, and this is the only one that encompasses absolutely everything from alien abduction to world leaders engaging in satanic ritual abuse to every experience I have ever had and any experience anyone has ever shared with me.

The most important telling factor is the love, above all else. Entertaining no other theory or belief brings me to feel such love for not nearly just myself, or just for God, but for everyone.


much love,


melchizedek

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