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Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!

 
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
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federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

DO you think they care??
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Arizona gets $1.19 from the Federal Govt for every $1.00 its citizens pay in federal income tax.
So they could lose that .19 cents difference if the Feds decide to withold it.
Feds have threatened and cut money to states over seatbelt and drunk driving laws and the states ALL folded.
Even Texas balanced their budget on Federal Stimulus Funds last year.

States that GET more than they GIVE
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Nikki you always open your mouth and let garbage spill out. Everyone is tired of it. I know its a free to speak forum but geez. Arizona has the right to do what they want. The feds have stopped Arizona from closing the border and it has cost them dearly.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

DO you think they care??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 723651


Arizona has caved before, they will again.
They didn't want to pass a holiday for Martin Luther King, but they did.
They caved.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I suppose that's what would happen if they seceded. No use for those Fed offices.
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The US has turned into a bunch of stupid fat slobs that do what there masters say. sheep
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Everybody but you right?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Thats right Nikki, I'm not fat, highly educated, defiant and unfortunately fell through the cracks and am still unemployed, but I'm ready for the revolution. 5a
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If you are "highly educated" ho is it you let yourself fall through the cracks?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Niki doesn't sound like she wants independence...she wants states to suck up the federal aid and remain dependent. It would be wonderful if states didn't allow their socialist government to make them succomb to dependence on federal aid.

People who work pay taxes...people who don't work get paid from those taxes. Simple. Cut off federal aid and people WILL go back to work, or they'll move somewhere where they can get it...like California, where I live!
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>Well, you can't secure your own border the proof is that many of my cousins live there, I just wonder when Federal help doesn't go to AZ anymore, you will be crying for a re-union, racist bastards.

the first time a terrorist attacker if found to have come across the border your cousins, and all of your illegal bretheren, will be put into camps, or forced back across.

you should worry about your own country's issues rather than be a welfare burden to your neighbor nations..

TJ
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Fuck the fascist commies in D.C. Keep your own taxes AZ.

Mexcraments come try and take it.


Release the Kraken. <<<<<<<<<<
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02/02/2011 07:13 PM
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Nikki you always open your mouth and let garbage spill out. Everyone is tired of it. I know its a free to speak forum but geez. Arizona has the right to do what they want. The feds have stopped Arizona from closing the border and it has cost them dearly.
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Oh I'm fine with them seceding
How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

BS. Tribal governments do what they want and 99% of tribal members are completely dependent upon federal aid. For the rest of AZ, particularly the cities, there'd be a big party if fed aid got cut off because our population of darkies would disappear overnight, which would do a lot for the quality of life there. Maybe we'd better just call federal aid what it really is: ripping off the tax-payers.
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THIS
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Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)

Members of the state Legislature, including Arizona's de facto governor, Senate President Russell Pearce, have introduced a bill that essentially would have Arizona secede from the union without having to do so officially.



Really.


It's called SB1433, (See it here.) It creates a 12-member committee within the legislature that could "vote by simple majority to nullify in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government…"

[link to www.azcentral.com]
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Sounds reasonable to me. thumbs


liberty
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

They would prosper without the feds.
People would be moving there in droves.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I suppose that's what would happen if they seceded. No use for those Fed offices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250513



Yep you don't need Social Security. Medicaid and the Veterans Administration!
How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all
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while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs.......

within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined.

i would then move back to the states.
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federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

DO you think they care??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 723651


Arizona has caved before, they will again.
They didn't want to pass a holiday for Martin Luther King, but they did.
They caved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244415

They had to.
The federal government uses extortion to force their will.
Which is better than Lincoln's method, but still evil and unconstitutional.
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The US has turned into a bunch of stupid fat slobs that do what there masters say. sheep
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I don't blame them since the government has chosen to side with foreign nationals over its own citizens.
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Arizona gets $1.19 from the Federal Govt for every $1.00 its citizens pay in federal income tax.
So they could lose that .19 cents difference if the Feds decide to withold it.
Feds have threatened and cut money to states over seatbelt and drunk driving laws and the states ALL folded.
Even Texas balanced their budget on Federal Stimulus Funds last year.

States that GET more than they GIVE
[link to img268.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244415


So you're trying to say that Democrats are st00pid?
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while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs.......

within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined.

i would then move back to the states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929

Watch out Nikki might move to Arizona if that happens. She wants to be where all the power is. She bitches now but wait and see.
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02/02/2011 07:20 PM
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So where is the best place to live on this world right now?
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while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs.......

within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined.

i would then move back to the states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929


Wouldn't you move to Arizona????
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So where is the best place to live on this world right now?
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Antarctica. Save thousands on cooling costs!!!!!
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while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs.......

within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined.

i would then move back to the states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929

Watch out Nikki might move to Arizona if that happens. She wants to be where all the power is. She bitches now but wait and see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 947370

Or just watch what ya say, because she might shoot ya with that big gun of hers.... (wink wink)
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cool
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Arizona gets $1.19 from the Federal Govt for every $1.00 its citizens pay in federal income tax.
So they could lose that .19 cents difference if the Feds decide to withold it.
Feds have threatened and cut money to states over seatbelt and drunk driving laws and the states ALL folded.
Even Texas balanced their budget on Federal Stimulus Funds last year.

States that GET more than they GIVE
[link to img268.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244415

That is old data. I know MI is no longer a payer, don't know about the rest.
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
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We Texans will stand with our Arizona brothers and sisters, so bring in own mexican!
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I want to go live with these people...

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No I'm cutting big government out of a seceding state.


But really such a law is unconstitutional.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


WHat you're doing is running your mouth without knowing what you're talking about.

9th Amendment gives the States the right to reserve any right for itself it wants - including nullifying federal statutes that are inherently unconstitutional

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while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs.......

within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined.

i would then move back to the states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929

Watch out Nikki might move to Arizona if that happens. She wants to be where all the power is. She bitches now but wait and see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 947370


No place for my sailboat in AZ
How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
Most of the toughest talking states are quietly living off the federal government's teet.
Arizona is a welfare state, getting more than it gives.
Same with Mississippi Alaska Louisiana West Virginia Alabama Virginia etc etc


If ANYONE has a reason to secede, it is the states that give more to the federal government than they get.
New Jersey Nevada Connecticut New Hampshire ILLINOIS Delaware CALIFORNIA NEW YORK

Why should New Jersey have to give money to Alaska year after year?
Why should Connecticut have to subsidize the people of Mississippi?

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