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Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!

 
Anonymous Coward
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
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federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


That's actually how it is supposed to by anyway. Where do ya think the Federal Gov. gets much of their money?...the people of the states.
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02/02/2011 07:27 PM
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That's actually how it is supposed to by anyway. Where do ya think the Federal Gov. gets much of their money?
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China?
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02/02/2011 07:33 PM
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No I'm cutting big government out of a seceding state.


But really such a law is unconstitutional.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


WHat you're doing is running your mouth without knowing what you're talking about.

9th Amendment gives the States the right to reserve any right for itself it wants - including nullifying federal statutes that are inherently unconstitutional
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Some jurists have asserted that the Ninth Amendment is relevant to interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. Justice Arthur Goldberg (joined by Chief Justice Earl Warren and Justice William Brennan) expressed this view in a concurring opinion in the case of Griswold v. Connecticut (1965):

The Framers did not intend that the first eight amendments be construed to exhaust the basic and fundamental rights.... I do not mean to imply that the .... Ninth Amendment constitutes an independent source of rights protected from infringement by either the States or the Federal Government....While the Ninth Amendment - and indeed the entire Bill of Rights - originally concerned restrictions upon federal power, the subsequently enacted Fourteenth Amendment prohibits the States as well from abridging fundamental personal liberties. And, the Ninth Amendment, in indicating that not all such liberties are specifically mentioned in the first eight amendments, is surely relevant in showing the existence of other fundamental personal rights, now protected from state, as well as federal, infringement. In sum, the Ninth Amendment simply lends strong support to the view that the "liberty" protected by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments from infringement by the Federal Government or the States is not restricted to rights specifically mentioned in the first eight amendments. Cf. United Public Workers v. Mitchell, 330 U.S. 75, 94-95.
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Nikki_LaVey

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02/02/2011 07:34 PM
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Most of the toughest talking states are quietly living off the federal government's teet.
Arizona is a welfare state, getting more than it gives.
Same with Mississippi Alaska Louisiana West Virginia Alabama Virginia etc etc


If ANYONE has a reason to secede, it is the states that give more to the federal government than they get.
New Jersey Nevada Connecticut New Hampshire ILLINOIS Delaware CALIFORNIA NEW YORK

Why should New Jersey have to give money to Alaska year after year?
Why should Connecticut have to subsidize the people of Mississippi?
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Good point there.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

I agree. The rest of us will see how much better off they are and want to do the same.
Great idea!
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That's actually how it is supposed to by anyway. Where do ya think the Federal Gov. gets much of their money?
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China?
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02/02/2011 07:35 PM
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the US is to be divided into 10 regions, then merged with Canada and Mexico to form the NAU
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if youre a mexican and youre on here, QUIT stealing wifi! you thieves! hahahahah :D
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time to secede is when fed gov can no longer borrow money.

they will be unable to pay soldiers to enforce their tyranny.

at time the states can use militias and drive a stake through the heart of the federal monster.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Arizona would prosper..
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
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LMFAO... yeah right! Isn't it time for your siesta????
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02/02/2011 07:40 PM
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Arizona will become the richest and happiest country in North America.
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02/02/2011 07:41 PM
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
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rofl O.K. homie you bring your claws my team & I will bring our AKs & ARs.........scared o youhiding
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Arizona would prosper..
 Quoting: Nailer45


Possible
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A state with balls. Im a Texan and i envy them,for their courage. Lets stand together with our sister state. Fuk Mccain
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Arizona would prosper..
 Quoting: Nailer45


Possible
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Glad you think so
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So where is the best place to live on this world right now?
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Antarctica. Save thousands on cooling costs!!!!!
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not much firewood laying around..
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02/02/2011 07:45 PM
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my US girlfriend who lives in Arizona said that they are building trains track in the city the city train ?? anyways think of the freedom of transportation in the Phoenix and Arizona regions

no more oil cartels no more worries clean transportation

GOD BLESS ARIZONA
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait.
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02/02/2011 07:46 PM
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Ahhh, Where is all that teabagger patriotism?? Does that only come to the surface when we declare war on another country?
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I love Arizona. Fuck those bean pickers up.
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Hot damn!

Anybody know any good realtors in Arizona?
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226582

rofllmao
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02/02/2011 07:48 PM
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every agency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226582


It's amazing how some people always bring up my medical history no matter the subject.
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Nikki_LaVey

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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226582

rofllmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1197295



After all these years here it is a tad boring.
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02/02/2011 07:49 PM
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every agency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226582


It's amazing how some people always bring up my medical history no matter the subject.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


I'm pissed and thought it to be witty.
Sorry.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Arizona would prosper..
 Quoting: Nailer45


Possible
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Glad you think so
 Quoting: CarGuy1122


Arizona would improve quite a bit..

get rid of all federal Aid to arizona , that means the illegal immigrants can't get no more welfare and food stamps so they will leave Arizona..
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


What makes you think they can't survive without the US government. I think the states can operate fine without federal assistance. Especially when they say to their citizens, that they no longer have to shovel out federal income tax, that all taxes will now go to the republic of arizona,
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Hot damn!

Anybody know any good realtors in Arizona?
 Quoting: Resister


Save the real estate agent commission and just move into one of the thousands of empty homes around Phoenix Arizona.
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052

You guys can't even secure your own country, what makes you think you can take Arizona ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198592


Well, you can't secure your own border the proof is that many of my cousins live there, I just wonder when Federal help doesn't go to AZ anymore, you will be crying for a re-union, racist bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052


My question is- if Arizona seceded and Mexicans found they could acctually overun it- wouldn't it just be more of the same as in Mexico- and everyone would be running farther north?
It's not like Mexico is overcrouded and you need more space, like Arizona. More like your political situation is so screwed up you want to run away. So WHAT THE HELL DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE TO YOU IF ARIZONA WAS PART OF THAT MESS????????????????
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Arizona would prosper..
 Quoting: Nailer45


Possible
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Glad you think so
 Quoting: CarGuy1122


Arizona would improve quite a bit..

get rid of all federal Aid to arizona , that means the illegal immigrants can't get no more welfare and food stamps so they will leave Arizona..
 Quoting: Nailer45



Or they will turn on whitie and start really running amok, not to mention and increase of drug cartel action.
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