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Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!

 
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When the call went out that Mexico was attacking Texas, the word went out by horseback messenger. AMERICANS came in droves from the surrounding states(territories). We are only taught about the Alamo. I'm from Arkansas, Texas is the front line. Don't think that lots of us won't come to the aid of Texas or any other state from threats "foreign or domestic". GBA, also bless states rights.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


What makes you think they can't survive without the US government. I think the states can operate fine without federal assistance. Especially when they say to their citizens, that they no longer have to shovel out federal income tax, that all taxes will now go to the republic of arizona,
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I never said they couldn't!

Please read my posts before you say something this stupid!
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


you should move to china or venezeula, you obviously hate America you commie beyotch.
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Possible
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Glad you think so
 Quoting: CarGuy1122


Arizona would improve quite a bit..

get rid of all federal Aid to arizona , that means the illegal immigrants can't get no more welfare and food stamps so they will leave Arizona..
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Or they will turn on whitie and start really running amok, not to mention and increase of drug cartel action.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

OH PLEASE... Do you have any idea what kind of firepower is in this state just waiting for them druglords to start some REAL shit? NO I dont think you do
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Fuck off you trangender commie.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey




Like the Libtard that he/she is... Nikki just loves Big Government.
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No I'm cutting big government out of a seceding state.


But really such a law is unconstitutional.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

How do you figure Nikki? The federal government over reaching its mandate has violated its agreement. A violation in the agreements of many states make just this kind of legislation legal.

Oh and any state can decide to secede whenever they want.
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If they really want to secede, then they should instruct all the citizens of the republic of arizona to no longer pay federal income tax, are they willing to go that far, if not, they are wasting news time. Come back when you are serious about what the state wants. This is bull shit news, no balls behind it.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


you should move to china or venezeula, you obviously hate America you commie beyotch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166065


WTF are you talking about?

If anything I am talking about not taking socialist money or services!
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Arizona's economy would probably soar and the health and well being of Arizona's citizens would be much improved.
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Glad you think so
 Quoting: CarGuy1122


Arizona would improve quite a bit..

get rid of all federal Aid to arizona , that means the illegal immigrants can't get no more welfare and food stamps so they will leave Arizona..
 Quoting: Nailer45



Or they will turn on whitie and start really running amok, not to mention and increase of drug cartel action.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

OH PLEASE... Do you have any idea what kind of firepower is in this state just waiting for them druglords to start some REAL shit? NO I dont think you do
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Sure I do and those lil brown fuckers are smaller so the can hide better chuckle
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Just for survival all the states might have to do this at some point in time. That is unless they want to go over the cliff of the dollar and mountains of debt tied to DC.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Fuck off you trangender commie.
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Make Me Bitch!
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



AZ will save money by seceding. All states pay more into the Fed/Gov than they get back.
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
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You guys can't even secure your own country, what makes you think you can take Arizona ?
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Well, you can't secure your own border the proof is that many of my cousins live there, I just wonder when Federal help doesn't go to AZ anymore, you will be crying for a re-union, racist bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052



its nothing about being racists

its about the law and eventually when the people are tired of bowing to the alter of the federal government you and your cousins will finally get it :)
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well if Jews took back Israel and it was Ok I wonder why Mexicans can not take back Arizona and Texas and CA
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
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Fuck off you trangender commie.
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Make Me Bitch!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Oi! Oi! There's no no need for that kind of language. You shouldn't call a person commie, regardless of his politcal affinities. Let's all have a glass of Scotch and calm down.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
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AZ will save money by seceding. All states pay more into the Fed/Gov than they get back.
 Quoting: Pocket Watch


No not in the case of AZ which gets $1.19 for every $1.00 it gives the feds.
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ROCKING!!!

rockon

They do this, I'll be moving.
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1st state to really secede and secure real gold and silver bullion for themselves ( with worthless us dollars beforehand ) to issue a currancy backed by bullion will become the most powerful state in north america practically overnight
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Are you a man dressed up like a woman?
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
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LOL re: signature ..Niki, just remember Dog spelled backwards is God, do what's your point? lol lub ya:)
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Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)

Members of the state Legislature, including Arizona's de facto governor, Senate President Russell Pearce, have introduced a bill that essentially would have Arizona secede from the union without having to do so officially.



Really.


It's called SB1433, (See it here.) It creates a 12-member committee within the legislature that could "vote by simple majority to nullify in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government…"

[link to www.azcentral.com]
 Quoting: Gates of Orion


"First of all, Mon-tiny, the people who introduced that bill know as well as you that any federal law or mandate they attempt to nullify would simply be ruled on by the Supreme Court. So why bother? Maybe they are just trying to get the attention"
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Are you a man dressed up like a woman?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253977



Is that part of the topic?
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This looks like something to follow. Very interesting. Thanks for the share.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



AZ will save money by seceding. All states pay more into the Fed/Gov than they get back.
 Quoting: Pocket Watch


No not in the case of AZ which gets $1.19 for every $1.00 it gives the feds.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Does that include all federal tax returns, where did you get you're information,
. Arizona can survive without the moneys going to the federal government, if they kept the money them self's
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Montana already has such a law: It is called the Federal Mandates Act.
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052

You guys can't even secure your own country, what makes you think you can take Arizona ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198592


Well, you can't secure your own border the proof is that many of my cousins live there, I just wonder when Federal help doesn't go to AZ anymore, you will be crying for a re-union, racist bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052

Federal help?

lol rofl

The Federal government is the only thing holding Arizon back from wiping out every coke headed drug lord camping out on the AZ side of the border right now. Good thing not all Mexicans are as dim witted as you.
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All conservatarded states are welfare queens sucking at the federal teat, subsidized by liberal states. Let them secede and follow their own "self-reliance" ideology. Can't secede fast enough, I say. No more food stamps for you.
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Conservative states are "welfare queens" funded by the Liberal states?!?

Don't you have that just a tad backwards there?
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.

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Yeah...it's called PROSPERITY. hi lol
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All conservatarded states are welfare queens sucking at the federal teat, subsidized by liberal states. Let them secede and follow their own "self-reliance" ideology. Can't secede fast enough, I say. No more food stamps for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221926

Conservative states are "welfare queens" funded by the Liberal states?!?

Don't you have that just a tad backwards there?
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


That is a fact!
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