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Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!

 
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
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federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Feds are funded with state's and citizen's money.
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one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


you should move to china or venezeula, you obviously hate America you commie beyotch.
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Hold on now. Nikki has more balls(not anymore) than most people on here. She did what she thought was right for her. That's her right. She has been brainwashed to think that libs represent her position. Conservatives, in the past, (parents, friends, whomever) did not condone what she was or what she wanted to do. The media(liberal) has made all of us conservatives the enemy of people who have different wants. Not all of us are like that. We believe in right right of people to attain whatever success they want without the Gov. telling us what to do. Fuck the UN. Let people succeed or fail. We are the most giving country in the world, and we should be because we have grown up in a country that allows us that freedom.MORE GOVERNMENT, LESS FREEDOM. GBA
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

yes i would move to arizona
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



I like that idea.

Arizona would become rich, safe, and a net exporter with lots of real jobs.

You, OTOH, are still looking for your dick.
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federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Are you a man dressed up like a woman?
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Is that part of the topic?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


YEAH
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



AZ will save money by seceding. All states pay more into the Fed/Gov than they get back.
 Quoting: Pocket Watch


No not in the case of AZ which gets $1.19 for every $1.00 it gives the feds.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Does that include all federal tax returns, where did you get you're information,
. Arizona can survive without the moneys going to the federal government, if they kept the money them self's
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



AZ will save money by seceding. All states pay more into the Fed/Gov than they get back.
 Quoting: Pocket Watch


Yes they could, they could keep all of the income tax and corporate taxes.

Also, once the muni bond crisis really gets going states will need their sovereignty to legally default on obligations. If they remain lackeys for the feds, they will forced into settlements that will only burden their loads greater.

Best to just get out of the dollar now while they have functioning governments.
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All conservatarded states are welfare queens sucking at the federal teat, subsidized by liberal states. Let them secede and follow their own "self-reliance" ideology. Can't secede fast enough, I say. No more food stamps for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221926

Conservative states are "welfare queens" funded by the Liberal states?!?

Don't you have that just a tad backwards there?
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That is a fact!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



crock failsmile

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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
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They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Are you a man dressed up like a woman?
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Is that part of the topic?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


YEAH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226582



OK Mother Fucker I'm a Post Op Transsexual Do something about it!
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


What the F@@k are you talking about? Don't you think you are are citizen of the republic of the state you live in. Do you think, by saying you can not own land, unless you are a u.s citizen vs. state citizenship? What exactly does that mean?
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



We sure will. Solidarity anyone??
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Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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02/02/2011 08:14 PM
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We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do itmacgun
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You are a fool if you think that Arizona and the Americans living there will ever stand alone.
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That's the spirit! United we will ALWAYS stand.
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All conservatarded states are welfare queens sucking at the federal teat, subsidized by liberal states. Let them secede and follow their own "self-reliance" ideology. Can't secede fast enough, I say. No more food stamps for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221926

Conservative states are "welfare queens" funded by the Liberal states?!?

Don't you have that just a tad backwards there?
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


That is a fact!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



crock failsmile

putin
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Here you go Asshole!
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Does that mean they get to pick a new president????

5a
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253373



What about Legal Immigrants?
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253373

Only allow people to buy property if their country allows foreigners to purchase property. Mexico doesn't.
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This isn't about liberalism vs. conservatism.

AZ will save money by seceding. All states pay more into the Fed/Gov than they get back.
 Quoting: Pocket Watch


No not in the case of AZ which gets $1.19 for every $1.00 it gives the feds.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Does that include all federal tax returns, where did you get you're information,
. Arizona can survive without the moneys going to the federal government, if they kept the money them self's
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If you are caught in Mexico, illegally, you can be incarcerated or shot. And anyone that has helped you, can too. GBA
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253373



What about Legal Immigrants?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Im new here, and from what I have seen in the last year I have used this site, is that Nikki is open minded and says what she has to say, as all should, and nothing about her gender should hinder that right. We all have the right to do whatever makes them happy. She is a person. Leave her alone and stay on fuckin topic.
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253373



What about Legal Immigrants?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Kill them.
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Re: Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!!
one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253373



What about Legal Immigrants?
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Im new here, and from what I have seen in the last year I have used this site, is that Nikki is open minded and says what she has to say, as all should, and nothing about her gender should hinder that right. We all have the right to do whatever makes them happy. She is a person. Leave her alone and stay on fuckin topic.
 Quoting: CarGuy1122


Also I know you need no defending that just gets on my fucking nerves man. Ignorant ass arrogant people.
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NIKKI,
I have to apologize for one of my posts... dont remember what page its on. But It has nothing to do with this thread, you did what you felt was right for you & who the hell am I to say anything about it. It doesnt affect ME, so there ya go ...
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


help? Well now, that is the problem, isn't it? If Uncle Scam wants to take tax-dollars from the fine peeps of Arizona, and then give them a "Virtual Fence", then Uncle Scam don't get to have the last laugh.

Good job Arizona! There is at least one Texan willing to lay it on the line to help make a point to Uncle Scam and the Mexican Mafia.
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I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


federalist scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269


They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways.

If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


Haven't read to the end of the thread yet, but, yes, Nikki, it does work both ways INCLUDING Arizona citizens stopping payment of ALL income tax to the feds and kicking out the IRS.


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GFR!
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one law Arizona needs to pass is: You can not buy or own land in Arizona unless you are a US Citizen.

Actually that needs to be a federal law or a law in every state.
 Quoting: Nailer45


So you want to destroy foreign investment? You realise that then the USA would need to find some other way to pay for all those imports?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253373

Only allow people to buy property if their country allows foreigners to purchase property. Mexico doesn't.
 Quoting: Lotta Rock


Yes, they do. They, however, do not (officially) allow foreigners to purchase beachfront property. There are ways around that, though.


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Future news.

"Headline: U.S Federal Government increases foreign aid to Mexican militants after Arizona secedes."
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Are you a man dressed up like a woman?
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Is that part of the topic?
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YEAH
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OK Mother Fucker I'm a Post Op Transsexual Do something about it!
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Lol

Make arrangements and send him a picture.

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