Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1244415 Australia 02/02/2011 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they could lose that .19 cents difference if the Feds decide to withold it. Feds have threatened and cut money to states over seatbelt and drunk driving laws and the states ALL folded. Even Texas balanced their budget on Federal Stimulus Funds last year. States that GET more than they GIVE [link to img268.imageshack.us] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 947370 Puerto Rico 02/02/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyNikki you always open your mouth and let garbage spill out. Everyone is tired of it. I know its a free to speak forum but geez. Arizona has the right to do what they want. The feds have stopped Arizona from closing the border and it has cost them dearly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1244415 Australia 02/02/2011 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyfederalist scum They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways. If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it. DO you think they care?? Arizona has caved before, they will again. They didn't want to pass a holiday for Martin Luther King, but they did. They caved. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 995876 United States 02/02/2011 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The US has turned into a bunch of stupid fat slobs that do what there masters say. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1248270Everybody but you right? Thats right Nikki, I'm not fat, highly educated, defiant and unfortunately fell through the cracks and am still unemployed, but I'm ready for the revolution. If you are "highly educated" ho is it you let yourself fall through the cracks? Niki doesn't sound like she wants independence...she wants states to suck up the federal aid and remain dependent. It would be wonderful if states didn't allow their socialist government to make them succomb to dependence on federal aid. People who work pay taxes...people who don't work get paid from those taxes. Simple. Cut off federal aid and people WILL go back to work, or they'll move somewhere where they can get it...like California, where I live! |
speedfreek User ID: 1241616 United States 02/02/2011 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the first time a terrorist attacker if found to have come across the border your cousins, and all of your illegal bretheren, will be put into camps, or forced back across. you should worry about your own country's issues rather than be a welfare burden to your neighbor nations.. TJ |
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Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyNikki you always open your mouth and let garbage spill out. Everyone is tired of it. I know its a free to speak forum but geez. Arizona has the right to do what they want. The feds have stopped Arizona from closing the border and it has cost them dearly. Oh I'm fine with them seceding How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 02/02/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyfederalist scum They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways. If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it. BS. Tribal governments do what they want and 99% of tribal members are completely dependent upon federal aid. For the rest of AZ, particularly the cities, there'd be a big party if fed aid got cut off because our population of darkies would disappear overnight, which would do a lot for the quality of life there. Maybe we'd better just call federal aid what it really is: ripping off the tax-payers. THIS |
Burt Gummer User ID: 989406 United States 02/02/2011 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so) Quoting: Gates of OrionMembers of the state Legislature, including Arizona's de facto governor, Senate President Russell Pearce, have introduced a bill that essentially would have Arizona secede from the union without having to do so officially. Really. It's called SB1433, (See it here.) It creates a 12-member committee within the legislature that could "vote by simple majority to nullify in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government…" [link to www.azcentral.com] Sounds reasonable to me. |
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Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI suppose that's what would happen if they seceded. No use for those Fed offices. Yep you don't need Social Security. Medicaid and the Veterans Administration! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1253929 Colombia 02/02/2011 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs....... within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined. i would then move back to the states. |
Just Some Guy User ID: 1235825 United States 02/02/2011 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052269federalist scum They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways. If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it. DO you think they care?? Arizona has caved before, they will again. They didn't want to pass a holiday for Martin Luther King, but they did. They caved. They had to. The federal government uses extortion to force their will. Which is better than Lincoln's method, but still evil and unconstitutional. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1253373 Australia 02/02/2011 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arizona gets $1.19 from the Federal Govt for every $1.00 its citizens pay in federal income tax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244415So they could lose that .19 cents difference if the Feds decide to withold it. Feds have threatened and cut money to states over seatbelt and drunk driving laws and the states ALL folded. Even Texas balanced their budget on Federal Stimulus Funds last year. States that GET more than they GIVE [link to img268.imageshack.us] So you're trying to say that Democrats are st00pid? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 947370 Puerto Rico 02/02/2011 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined. i would then move back to the states. Watch out Nikki might move to Arizona if that happens. She wants to be where all the power is. She bitches now but wait and see. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1253373 Australia 02/02/2011 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined. i would then move back to the states. Wouldn't you move to Arizona???? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 947370 Puerto Rico 02/02/2011 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined. i would then move back to the states. Watch out Nikki might move to Arizona if that happens. She wants to be where all the power is. She bitches now but wait and see. Or just watch what ya say, because she might shoot ya with that big gun of hers.... (wink wink) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246000 United States 02/02/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arizona gets $1.19 from the Federal Govt for every $1.00 its citizens pay in federal income tax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244415So they could lose that .19 cents difference if the Feds decide to withold it. Feds have threatened and cut money to states over seatbelt and drunk driving laws and the states ALL folded. Even Texas balanced their budget on Federal Stimulus Funds last year. States that GET more than they GIVE [link to img268.imageshack.us] That is old data. I know MI is no longer a payer, don't know about the rest. |
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C74R1TY-44 User ID: 1178496 United States 02/02/2011 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No I'm cutting big government out of a seceding state. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyBut really such a law is unconstitutional. WHat you're doing is running your mouth without knowing what you're talking about. 9th Amendment gives the States the right to reserve any right for itself it wants - including nullifying federal statutes that are inherently unconstitutional Last Edited by C74R1TY-44 on 02/02/2011 07:25 PM The storm is closing in to begin again from the beginning. Never sitting through my waking life oblivious. The ignorance running rampant through the city is indicative of something worse; this picture isn't pretty. |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while they're at it, Arizona should create it's own currency and get these psycopathic Fed banksters from our backs....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253929within 5 years, Az would be more powerful than the other 49 states combined. i would then move back to the states. Watch out Nikki might move to Arizona if that happens. She wants to be where all the power is. She bitches now but wait and see. No place for my sailboat in AZ How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1244415 Australia 02/02/2011 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the toughest talking states are quietly living off the federal government's teet. Arizona is a welfare state, getting more than it gives. Same with Mississippi Alaska Louisiana West Virginia Alabama Virginia etc etc If ANYONE has a reason to secede, it is the states that give more to the federal government than they get. New Jersey Nevada Connecticut New Hampshire ILLINOIS Delaware CALIFORNIA NEW YORK Why should New Jersey have to give money to Alaska year after year? Why should Connecticut have to subsidize the people of Mississippi? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 317023 United States 02/02/2011 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyfederalist scum They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways. If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it. That's actually how it is supposed to by anyway. Where do ya think the Federal Gov. gets much of their money?...the people of the states. |