Here we go!! Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)!!!! | |
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Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No I'm cutting big government out of a seceding state. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyBut really such a law is unconstitutional. WHat you're doing is running your mouth without knowing what you're talking about. 9th Amendment gives the States the right to reserve any right for itself it wants - including nullifying federal statutes that are inherently unconstitutional Some jurists have asserted that the Ninth Amendment is relevant to interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. Justice Arthur Goldberg (joined by Chief Justice Earl Warren and Justice William Brennan) expressed this view in a concurring opinion in the case of Griswold v. Connecticut (1965): The Framers did not intend that the first eight amendments be construed to exhaust the basic and fundamental rights.... I do not mean to imply that the .... Ninth Amendment constitutes an independent source of rights protected from infringement by either the States or the Federal Government....While the Ninth Amendment - and indeed the entire Bill of Rights - originally concerned restrictions upon federal power, the subsequently enacted Fourteenth Amendment prohibits the States as well from abridging fundamental personal liberties. And, the Ninth Amendment, in indicating that not all such liberties are specifically mentioned in the first eight amendments, is surely relevant in showing the existence of other fundamental personal rights, now protected from state, as well as federal, infringement. In sum, the Ninth Amendment simply lends strong support to the view that the "liberty" protected by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments from infringement by the Federal Government or the States is not restricted to rights specifically mentioned in the first eight amendments. Cf. United Public Workers v. Mitchell, 330 U.S. 75, 94-95. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the toughest talking states are quietly living off the federal government's teet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244415Arizona is a welfare state, getting more than it gives. Same with Mississippi Alaska Louisiana West Virginia Alabama Virginia etc etc If ANYONE has a reason to secede, it is the states that give more to the federal government than they get. New Jersey Nevada Connecticut New Hampshire ILLINOIS Delaware CALIFORNIA NEW YORK Why should New Jersey have to give money to Alaska year after year? Why should Connecticut have to subsidize the people of Mississippi? Good point there. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
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Nailer45 User ID: 1253943 United States 02/02/2011 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyArizona would prosper.. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
DILKe User ID: 952810 United States 02/02/2011 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052LMFAO... yeah right! Isn't it time for your siesta???? Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1253954 New Zealand 02/02/2011 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my US girlfriend who lives in Arizona said that they are building trains track in the city the city train ?? anyways think of the freedom of transportation in the Phoenix and Arizona regions no more oil cartels no more worries clean transportation GOD BLESS ARIZONA |
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Resister User ID: 1131641 United States 02/02/2011 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hot damn! Anybody know any good realtors in Arizona? "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every agency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait. It's amazing how some people always bring up my medical history no matter the subject. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait. After all these years here it is a tad boring. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1226582 Luxembourg 02/02/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every agency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI say cut off every sexually distinctive genitalia and have Nikki...oh, wait. It's amazing how some people always bring up my medical history no matter the subject. I'm pissed and thought it to be witty. Sorry. |
Nailer45 User ID: 1253943 United States 02/02/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyArizona would prosper.. Possible Glad you think so Arizona would improve quite a bit.. get rid of all federal Aid to arizona , that means the illegal immigrants can't get no more welfare and food stamps so they will leave Arizona.. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1067508 United States 02/02/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say cut off all federal aid and have every angency leave Arizona. We will see what happens. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyfederalist scum They want to secede fine but you must realize it works both ways. If you want your own rules that is fine you just don't get help from the government to do it. What makes you think they can't survive without the US government. I think the states can operate fine without federal assistance. Especially when they say to their citizens, that they no longer have to shovel out federal income tax, that all taxes will now go to the republic of arizona, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1244415 Australia 02/02/2011 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hot damn! Quoting: ResisterAnybody know any good realtors in Arizona? Save the real estate agent commission and just move into one of the thousands of empty homes around Phoenix Arizona. [link to www.housingwire.com] |
Backitup User ID: 1197733 United States 02/02/2011 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We Mexicans are wating with our claws to get it back...Go ahead do it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247052You guys can't even secure your own country, what makes you think you can take Arizona ? Well, you can't secure your own border the proof is that many of my cousins live there, I just wonder when Federal help doesn't go to AZ anymore, you will be crying for a re-union, racist bastards. My question is- if Arizona seceded and Mexicans found they could acctually overun it- wouldn't it just be more of the same as in Mexico- and everyone would be running farther north? It's not like Mexico is overcrouded and you need more space, like Arizona. More like your political situation is so screwed up you want to run away. So WHAT THE HELL DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE TO YOU IF ARIZONA WAS PART OF THAT MESS???????????????? |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 02/02/2011 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nailer45Arizona would prosper.. Possible Glad you think so Arizona would improve quite a bit.. get rid of all federal Aid to arizona , that means the illegal immigrants can't get no more welfare and food stamps so they will leave Arizona.. Or they will turn on whitie and start really running amok, not to mention and increase of drug cartel action. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994491 United States 02/02/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the call went out that Mexico was attacking Texas, the word went out by horseback messenger. AMERICANS came in droves from the surrounding states(territories). We are only taught about the Alamo. I'm from Arkansas, Texas is the front line. Don't think that lots of us won't come to the aid of Texas or any other state from threats "foreign or domestic". GBA, also bless states rights. |