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Why do people hate Jesus so much?

 
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People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill

your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is..
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*pats on head* of course dear rofl


right and you must be a demon seer..?

gifted with x-ray demon vision to identify all the demons around you...

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Because Jesus' "followers" have either perverted his message or disregarded it all together. Hypocrites.
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To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty...

You don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them..

Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology.

It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble...
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
My philosophy is, it scares the demons that live in them, and believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1251312


Good point. They also want a God that lives down to their expectations and allows them absolute license, instead of One Who expects them to live up to His standards. Others just don't want any accountability. Remember these are the End Days- the love of many will wax cold and there will be scoffers. Don't share their hate back with them. Be kind, loving, and generous to them. Be blameless and upright. Make sure they've heard the Gospel and otherwise do not let their heathen ways infect you.

Peace, love, and blessing in the name of Yeshua Ha Mashiach
 Quoting: Z-djinn



People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill

your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is..
 Quoting: Riker


Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people?
 Quoting: ABC 1255776


Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs.


No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference.
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To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty...

You don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them..

Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology.

It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble...
 Quoting: Z-djinn


NO one said unbelievers are demons!
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Good point. They also want a God that lives down to their expectations and allows them absolute license, instead of One Who expects them to live up to His standards. Others just don't want any accountability. Remember these are the End Days- the love of many will wax cold and there will be scoffers. Don't share their hate back with them. Be kind, loving, and generous to them. Be blameless and upright. Make sure they've heard the Gospel and otherwise do not let their heathen ways infect you.

Peace, love, and blessing in the name of Yeshua Ha Mashiach
 Quoting: Z-djinn



People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill

your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is..
 Quoting: Riker


Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people?
 Quoting: ABC 1255776


Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs.
 Quoting: Riker


No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference.


Big difference in your world maybe, both are suppositions and only based in 'belief' not verifiable in any way shape or form...

Christians are so 'demon obsessed' one way or another it's pathologic IMO
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
LOL...how can you hate what you do not see?
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People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill

your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is..
 Quoting: Riker


Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people?
 Quoting: ABC 1255776


Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs.
 Quoting: Riker


No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference.
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Big difference in your world maybe, both are suppositions and only based in 'belief' not verifiable in any way shape or form...

Christians are so 'demon obsessed' one way or another it's pathologic IMO


LOL, yep, Satan is around every corner, and a demon exists in every unbeliever!!

Sad belief structure indeed!!


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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty...

You don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them..

Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology.

It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble...
 Quoting: Z-djinn


NO one said unbelievers are demons!
 Quoting: Riker


your an exception then, but you still have this demon thinking still going on inside you, thinking that people are influenced by them etc.

frankly it's delusional
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Its really us that they hate.
 Quoting: Uriel


Because they hate us, they say horrible things about him?
 Quoting: Riker


Absolutely. Most of it is about pushing our buttons. It's like the one AC who used to always go on about "chirsters" and their "dumpy non-existant God fugger".
The name "Elvis" has become a caricature: A real person has been reduced to the punch-line of a joke. . .how much more of a joke has "Jesus" become? I don't mean the actual Person, but whatever people associate with that name. It's like "Yo Momma" jokes - have the people who tell them really ever met your mom?
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Its really us that they hate.
 Quoting: Uriel


Because they hate us, they say horrible things about him?
 Quoting: Riker


Absolutely. Most of it is about pushing our buttons. It's like the one AC who used to always go on about "chirsters" and their "dumpy non-existant God fugger".
The name "Elvis" has become a caricature: A real person has been reduced to the punch-line of a joke. . .how much more of a joke has "Jesus" become? I don't mean the actual Person, but whatever people associate with that name. It's like "Yo Momma" jokes - have the people who tell them really ever met your mom?
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ya makes sense.
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People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill

your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is..
 Quoting: Riker


Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people?
 Quoting: ABC 1255776


Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs.
 Quoting: Riker


No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference.
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Big difference in your world maybe, both are suppositions and only based in 'belief' not verifiable in any way shape or form...

Christians are so 'demon obsessed' one way or another it's pathologic IMO


Big difference in THE world period.
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LOL...how can you hate what you do not see?
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People do that with all kinds of things.
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty...

You don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them..

Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology.

It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble...
 Quoting: Z-djinn


NO one said unbelievers are demons!
 Quoting: Riker


your an exception then, but you still have this demon thinking still going on inside you, thinking that people are influenced by them etc.

frankly it's delusional
 Quoting: Z-djinn


"demon thinking going on inside you"... and I'm delusional? lol

again, how is believing that there are supernatural creatures that may not have your best interest at heart in existence so much more delusional than any other idea that comes along the pike?
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To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty...

You don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them..

Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology.

It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble...
 Quoting: Z-djinn


NO one said unbelievers are demons!
 Quoting: Riker


your an exception then, but you still have this demon thinking still going on inside you, thinking that people are influenced by them etc.

frankly it's delusional
 Quoting: Z-djinn


"demon thinking going on inside you"... and I'm delusional? lol

again, how is believing that there are supernatural creatures that may not have your best interest at heart in existence so much more delusional than any other idea that comes along the pike?
 Quoting: Riker


Illogical
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Alright, Spock, work with me a little! lol
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Alright, Spock, work with me a little! lol
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Ok, illogical argument
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Alright, Spock, work with me a little! lol
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Ok, illogical argument
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Are you aware of the Cordyceps unilateralis?
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

The Greatest Lie is the one never told, but assumed.

History isn't a measure of our successes, but the compilation of our mistakes.
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Alright, Spock, work with me a little! lol
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Ok, illogical argument
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Are you aware of the Cordyceps unilateralis?
 Quoting: ZTE


just read about it, interesting...
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just read about it, interesting...
 Quoting: Z-djinn


When you finish reading, you will find that it is not so illogical to think of "invisible" creatures affecting animal behavior. It is within the realm of possibilities.
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

The Greatest Lie is the one never told, but assumed.

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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Serious question. I find it curious.
 Quoting: Riker


It's not jesus we have a problem with. It's his followers. How is that prayer again?

"Jesus, please keep me safe from your followers."

The messages found in the Gnostic texts pertaining to jesus are COMPLETELY different than what the "Church" forced down the throats of the people. Here's a sample:

Gnostic teachings (what Jesus actually taught)

do not believe in original sin.

do not believe that mankind is inherently evil.

do not believe in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. For the doctrine of blood atonement presents a God who demands the human sacrifice of an innocent man, and any God who demands murder to appease justice is unworthy of worship or adoration.

do not believe in hell or final judgment. For the doctrine of hell and eternal torment are immoral beliefs, and the doctrine of final judgment perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness.

And much, much more
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
just read about it, interesting...
 Quoting: Z-djinn


When you finish reading, you will find that it is not so illogical to think of "invisible" creatures affecting animal behavior. It is within the realm of possibilities.
 Quoting: ZTE


Oh sure I'll just read whatever ya want LOL

Look, you can make your own points

but if you think this is some proof of demons..

i'm sorry and laugh
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Serious question. I find it curious.
 Quoting: Riker


It's not jesus we have a problem with. It's his followers. How is that prayer again?

"Jesus, please keep me safe from your followers."

The messages found in the Gnostic texts pertaining to jesus are COMPLETELY different than what the "Church" forced down the throats of the people. Here's a sample:

Gnostic teachings (what Jesus actually taught)

do not believe in original sin.

do not believe that mankind is inherently evil.

do not believe in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. For the doctrine of blood atonement presents a God who demands the human sacrifice of an innocent man, and any God who demands murder to appease justice is unworthy of worship or adoration.

do not believe in hell or final judgment. For the doctrine of hell and eternal torment are immoral beliefs, and the doctrine of final judgment perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness.

And much, much more
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1255250


Oops, I forgot one. and it's a Doozer!!

do not believe in Jehovah. However, true Gnostics do accept that the biblical Jehovah is a demiurge, an evil monster who would present himself as God in order to confuse mankind with regard to what is truly right and wrong.
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
THE PEOPLE THAT "HATE" JESUS, ALSO DENY JESUS. THE PEOPLE THAT DENY JESUS ALSO DENY THE FATHER(GOD).

THEM PEOPLE LIKE TO FEEL LIKE GOD INSTEAD OF SUBMITTING TO ONE.

IT MAKES THEM FEEL BETTER TO FREELY THINK HOW THIS UNIVERSE CAME ABOUT.

THEY DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR LIFE SUBMITTING TO A GOD WHEN IN THEIR MIND THERES THAT CHANCE HE DOESN'T EXIST AND THEY'VE JUST WASTED THEIR WHOLE LIFE...

HOW IRONIC IS THAT?

;)

NOW TO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO HOLD TO A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT YET DENY HIS EXISTENCE, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DELUSIONAL JOURNEY TO NO WHERE.
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Oh sure I'll just read whatever ya want LOL

Look, you can make your own points

but if you think this is some proof of demons..

i'm sorry and laugh
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Proof? no.

Evidence? Maybe

My point is, our behavior isn't always our own. Don't assume that you are in control of the chemicals being released in your brain. Just because you can't see the cause of something, doesn't mean you are in control.

Toxoplasma gondii has infected roughly half the population of humans on the planet, and this parasite can affect thought and behavior of humans. This parasite is also linked to schizophrenia as well.

Of course, many of this gets much more interesting when you study triple-helix DNA more closely. The "DNA of the gods...."

Last Edited by Zedakah on 02/05/2011 12:14 AM
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

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Oh sure I'll just read whatever ya want LOL

Look, you can make your own points

but if you think this is some proof of demons..

i'm sorry and laugh
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Proof? no.

Evidence? Maybe

My point is, our behavior isn't always our own. Don't assume that you are in control of the chemicals being released in your brain. Just because you can't see the cause of something, doesn't mean you are in control.

Toxoplasma gondii has infected roughly half the population of humans on the planet, and this parasite can affect thought and behavior of humans. This parasite is also linked to schizophrenia as well.

Of course, many of this gets much more interesting when you study triple-helix DNA more closely. The "DNA of the gods...."
 Quoting: ZTE


That parasite is crazy creepy. I can't stand parasites. LOL
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Serious question. I find it curious.
 Quoting: Riker


It's not jesus we have a problem with. It's his followers. How is that prayer again?

"Jesus, please keep me safe from your followers."

The messages found in the Gnostic texts pertaining to jesus are COMPLETELY different than what the "Church" forced down the throats of the people. Here's a sample:

Gnostic teachings (what Jesus actually taught)

do not believe in original sin.

do not believe that mankind is inherently evil.

do not believe in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. For the doctrine of blood atonement presents a God who demands the human sacrifice of an innocent man, and any God who demands murder to appease justice is unworthy of worship or adoration.

do not believe in hell or final judgment. For the doctrine of hell and eternal torment are immoral beliefs, and the doctrine of final judgment perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness.

And much, much more
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1255250




Well gnostics are nothing more than a bunch of pagans pretending to be Christians.


Jesus believed in all of these things, John the Baptist said "Behold the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the whole world." That pretty much declares all you have said as a lie. It is a declaration of blood atomement, original sin, the whole kit and cabootle! No distortion here but the one you are presenting.
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Did Matthew exist in Hebrew?
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Hey Riker have you ever watched this video series? I found it interesting how it explores the similarities between the different religions. Also delves into Jesus / "Issa" buried in India.



[link to www.youtube.com]

It is a long series, all 11 parts but it is presented well.


Here is just another site to peruse if you want to explore the sociological/cultural context of the bible. [link to www.bidstrup.com]


Another interesting site, if you want.

Deism vs. Atheism and Christianity [link to www.deism.com]
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Serious question. I find it curious.
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I dont think its that people hate him.. People hate the bible pushers.. the people that are always throwing him in our faces.. Bible thumpers give religion a very bad name.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153822


The following prayer accurately expresses my position, which has been developed after decades of experience:

Jesus, please save me from your followers. Amen.



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