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Why do people hate Jesus so much?

 
ZTE

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Did Matthew exist in Hebrew?
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Most likely. Especially if Paul couldn't even speak Greek.
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Did Matthew exist in Hebrew?
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Most likely. Especially if Paul couldn't even speak Greek.
 Quoting: ZTE



most likely..?

please show some source material to back up this claim
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most likely..?

please show some source material to back up this claim
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Acts 21

37 As the soldiers were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?”
Do you speak Greek?” he replied. 38 “Aren’t you the Egyptian who started a revolt and led four thousand terrorists out into the wilderness some time ago?”

39 Paul answered, “I am a Hebrew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people.”

40 After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic


So let me get this straight....

Paul, the one who said to obey all authority, just refused a direct order from a Roman Commander. He just proclaimed he was from Tarsus, yet refused to speak Greek.

If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek.
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most likely..?

please show some source material to back up this claim
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Acts 21

37 As the soldiers were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?”
Do you speak Greek?” he replied. 38 “Aren’t you the Egyptian who started a revolt and led four thousand terrorists out into the wilderness some time ago?”

39 Paul answered, “I am a Hebrew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people.”

40 After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic


So let me get this straight....

Paul, the one who said to obey all authority, just refused a direct order from a Roman Commander. He just proclaimed he was from Tarsus, yet refused to speak Greek.

If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek.
 Quoting: ZTE


Christians assert that Matthew was written in Hebrew, and then translated into Greek. This conjecture is based on the Church leader Papias, who said the apostle Matthew, preached to the Hebrews:


Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could. Papias (Eusebius, H.E. 3.39.16)


Yet, the Hebrew version of the Matthew does not exist today. The ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’ from which the Greek Matthew was allegedly translated, exists only in fragments preserved by the Church Fathers. There is no evidence to prove the Greek Matthew (in the New Testament) is the translation of this ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’.

Amazingly, the first Church writer to mention the Gospel was Hegesippus (died 180 CE) by name. The oldest copies of Matthew are fragmentary; the complete MSS is the Codex Sinaiticus dating from the 4th century.


The ‘Gospel of Hebrews’ omits the genealogy of Jesus, and it does not record the birth.

So if Matthew is the translation of the ‘Gospel of Hebrews’, where did Matthew derive his genealogy? He must have plagiarized the genealogy from the Jewish scriptures; needless to say, it was the source for Matthew and Luke’s genealogy. The Old Testament serves the Midrashic tradition called Haggadah, which is the retelling of stories in a new light. Hence, the similarities between Jesus and Moses to fulfill Deuteronomy 18:18 have been fabricated.
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek.

prove it
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Christians assert that Matthew was written in Hebrew, and then translated into Greek. This conjecture is based on the Church leader Papias, who said the apostle Matthew, preached to the Hebrews:


Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could. Papias (Eusebius, H.E. 3.39.16)


Yet, the Hebrew version of the Matthew does not exist today. The ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’ from which the Greek Matthew was allegedly translated, exists only in fragments preserved by the Church Fathers. There is no evidence to prove the Greek Matthew (in the New Testament) is the translation of this ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’.

Amazingly, the first Church writer to mention the Gospel was Hegesippus (died 180 CE) by name. The oldest copies of Matthew are fragmentary; the complete MSS is the Codex Sinaiticus dating from the 4th century.


The ‘Gospel of Hebrews’ omits the genealogy of Jesus, and it does not record the birth.

So if Matthew is the translation of the ‘Gospel of Hebrews’, where did Matthew derive his genealogy? He must have plagiarized the genealogy from the Jewish scriptures; needless to say, it was the source for Matthew and Luke’s genealogy. The Old Testament serves the Midrashic tradition called Haggadah, which is the retelling of stories in a new light. Hence, the similarities between Jesus and Moses to fulfill Deuteronomy 18:18 have been fabricated.
 Quoting: Z-djinn


Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up. The records weren't destroyed yet and we know there was a census within the past 33 years.
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
You are wrong, just as many people, if not more, respect what he stands for.
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek.

prove it
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The alleged writers couldn't even speak Greek. Kind of hard to write in a language you can't speak.
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

The Greatest Lie is the one never told, but assumed.

History isn't a measure of our successes, but the compilation of our mistakes.
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up.

speculation and conjecture
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek.

prove it
 Quoting: Z-djinn


The alleged writers couldn't even speak Greek. Kind of hard to write in a language you can't speak.
 Quoting: ZTE


your making my point for me...

lol
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up.

speculation and conjecture
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so is saying that he didn't.
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02/05/2011 05:14 PM
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Only teaching the false teachers,nothing more.....



Last Edited by Fabian on 02/05/2011 05:15 PM
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up.

speculation and conjecture
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so is saying that he didn't.
 Quoting: Riker

hi


Shalom Riker!

Long time no talk! Shoot me an email, I would love for you to pop into our chatroom and hang out sometime!


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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up.

speculation and conjecture
 Quoting: Z-djinn


so is saying that he didn't.
 Quoting: Riker

hi


Shalom Riker!

Long time no talk! Shoot me an email, I would love for you to pop into our chatroom and hang out sometime!


Deb
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Hello Deb! :-) I will... I have to get a mic lol
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Because he is a red herring , to throw us off the true path to salvation
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02/07/2011 05:32 PM
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
because religion kill to many people


that why
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
Nobody hates Jesus.
It is his fan club that is so easy to hate.
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Re: Why do people hate Jesus so much?
I hate Cheesus, not Jesus.


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