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ZTE User ID: 1075971 United States 02/05/2011 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most likely..? Quoting: Z-djinnplease show some source material to back up this claim Acts 21 37 As the soldiers were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied. 38 “Aren’t you the Egyptian who started a revolt and led four thousand terrorists out into the wilderness some time ago?” 39 Paul answered, “I am a Hebrew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people.” 40 After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic So let me get this straight.... Paul, the one who said to obey all authority, just refused a direct order from a Roman Commander. He just proclaimed he was from Tarsus, yet refused to speak Greek. If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/05/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most likely..? Quoting: Z-djinnplease show some source material to back up this claim Acts 21 37 As the soldiers were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied. 38 “Aren’t you the Egyptian who started a revolt and led four thousand terrorists out into the wilderness some time ago?” 39 Paul answered, “I am a Hebrew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people.” 40 After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic So let me get this straight.... Paul, the one who said to obey all authority, just refused a direct order from a Roman Commander. He just proclaimed he was from Tarsus, yet refused to speak Greek. If anything, the majority of the New Testament was written in Aramaic, not Greek. Christians assert that Matthew was written in Hebrew, and then translated into Greek. This conjecture is based on the Church leader Papias, who said the apostle Matthew, preached to the Hebrews: Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could. Papias (Eusebius, H.E. 3.39.16) Yet, the Hebrew version of the Matthew does not exist today. The ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’ from which the Greek Matthew was allegedly translated, exists only in fragments preserved by the Church Fathers. There is no evidence to prove the Greek Matthew (in the New Testament) is the translation of this ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’. Amazingly, the first Church writer to mention the Gospel was Hegesippus (died 180 CE) by name. The oldest copies of Matthew are fragmentary; the complete MSS is the Codex Sinaiticus dating from the 4th century. The ‘Gospel of Hebrews’ omits the genealogy of Jesus, and it does not record the birth. So if Matthew is the translation of the ‘Gospel of Hebrews’, where did Matthew derive his genealogy? He must have plagiarized the genealogy from the Jewish scriptures; needless to say, it was the source for Matthew and Luke’s genealogy. The Old Testament serves the Midrashic tradition called Haggadah, which is the retelling of stories in a new light. Hence, the similarities between Jesus and Moses to fulfill Deuteronomy 18:18 have been fabricated. |
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ZTE User ID: 1075971 United States 02/05/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians assert that Matthew was written in Hebrew, and then translated into Greek. This conjecture is based on the Church leader Papias, who said the apostle Matthew, preached to the Hebrews: Quoting: Z-djinnMatthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could. Papias (Eusebius, H.E. 3.39.16) Yet, the Hebrew version of the Matthew does not exist today. The ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’ from which the Greek Matthew was allegedly translated, exists only in fragments preserved by the Church Fathers. There is no evidence to prove the Greek Matthew (in the New Testament) is the translation of this ‘Gospel According to Hebrews’. Amazingly, the first Church writer to mention the Gospel was Hegesippus (died 180 CE) by name. The oldest copies of Matthew are fragmentary; the complete MSS is the Codex Sinaiticus dating from the 4th century. The ‘Gospel of Hebrews’ omits the genealogy of Jesus, and it does not record the birth. So if Matthew is the translation of the ‘Gospel of Hebrews’, where did Matthew derive his genealogy? He must have plagiarized the genealogy from the Jewish scriptures; needless to say, it was the source for Matthew and Luke’s genealogy. The Old Testament serves the Midrashic tradition called Haggadah, which is the retelling of stories in a new light. Hence, the similarities between Jesus and Moses to fulfill Deuteronomy 18:18 have been fabricated. Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up. The records weren't destroyed yet and we know there was a census within the past 33 years. |
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Riker (OP) User ID: 1181030 United States 02/05/2011 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up. Quoting: Z-djinnspeculation and conjecture so is saying that he didn't. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Fabian User ID: 886028 Netherlands 02/05/2011 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only teaching the false teachers,nothing more..... Last Edited by Fabian on 02/05/2011 05:15 PM :Fabnn: There are those among us who are blessed with the power to save what is loved by another, But powerless to use this blessing for love themselves.. |
PalmOfDeborah User ID: 1252137 United States 02/05/2011 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up. Quoting: Z-djinnspeculation and conjecture so is saying that he didn't. Shalom Riker! Long time no talk! Shoot me an email, I would love for you to pop into our chatroom and hang out sometime! Deb The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Riker (OP) User ID: 1181030 United States 02/07/2011 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or he could have gone to the temple and looked them up. Quoting: Z-djinnspeculation and conjecture so is saying that he didn't. Shalom Riker! Long time no talk! Shoot me an email, I would love for you to pop into our chatroom and hang out sometime! Deb Hello Deb! :-) I will... I have to get a mic lol You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
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