Hey Hey, A G2 Class Geomagnetic Storm

I'm happy to answer questions, But if you start going on about the simulation I will most likely ignore your query.

Just letting you know now.

Also, not in the best mood - stupid comments from AC's will most likely be met with hostility.

Last Edited by OTOC on 02/04/2011 05:29 PM

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Space Weather Message Code: ALTK04
Serial Number: 1493
Issue Time: 2011 Feb 04 2054 UTC

Space Weather Message Code: SUMSUD
Serial Number: 110
Issue Time: 2011 Feb 04 0548 UTC

SUMMARY: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse
Observed: 2011 Feb 04 0236 UTC
Deviation: 8 nT
Station: Boulder


ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 4
Threshold Reached: 2011 Feb 04 2053 UTC
Synoptic Period: 1800-2100 UTC
Station: Boulder
Active Warning: Yes


Space Weather Message Code: WARK05
Serial Number: 675
Issue Time: 2011 Feb 04 1916 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 5 expected
Valid From: 2011 Feb 04 1930 UTC
Valid To: 2011 Feb 05 0030 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

They haven't updated it yet.

A KP=6 storm is a G2 storm and the Space Weather Prediction Center (Swpc.noaa) Take their readings for that from the boulder magnetometer.

Which is this one: [link to www.n3kl.org]

And also why [link to spaceweather.com] have it up now.

Last Edited by OTOC on 02/04/2011 05:04 PM

Cool was disappointed in the CME the other day, weak weak weak.

Proton density -9999



Last Edited by Imageneyes on 02/04/2011 05:04 PM

This sun capture has me scratching my head...what is that huge cloud around the bottom edge? And that plasma-looking thing at about 7 o'clock?

[link to www.spacew.com]

Look at the Status column.

Status(S): 0 = nominal data, 1 to 8 = bad data record, 9 = no data

And the two examples:
2011 02 04 2200 55596 79200 1 8.3 556.4 5.63e+05

2011 02 04 2201 55596 79260 9 -9999.9 -9999.9 -1.00e+05

Top one has relatively good data which only a 1 in the status column.

Bottom one has no data, hence the 9. And it's shows the -9999.9 to easily tell which it is, because the solar wind can actually have a density of 0.

A lot of reasons why that happens, not going to go into them.

there is never a zero density, it's just beyond measurable limits. saying it is zero is like saying the sun stops are there is no wind. the air is ALWAYS moving, even if we can't feel it or measure it

Do want to point out that that image is from 2004, and is no longer updating.

But the bits sticking out are prominences/filaments) (please see my sig).

Ok thanks for that.

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Yes although that is true and that we can't have absolutely no wind hitting us... well under normal circumstances...

The instrumentation on that spacecraft can send back readings of zero because it cannot measure it...

And guess what jackass, I was talking about the instrumentation readings, or did you not quite follow the fucking context?



Last Edited by OTOC on 02/04/2011 05:16 PM

you know NOTHING

and so the sun is alive.
a good news if we think about it...

Is that so, Well thanks to you I now know that I know nothing.

So does that stop me from now knowing nothing now that I know it?

Because If i know that I know nothing, then I know something, but by knowing it it makes it false, so then do I really know it and not just believe it?

You tell me oh great and powerful one.

By great and powerful one, I mean lowly troll.

Last Edited by OTOC on 02/04/2011 05:27 PM

Yeah, great comment there, love your supporting research to your claims.

Last Edited by OTOC on 02/04/2011 05:29 PM

I've been meaning to ask you this for a while OTOC, just how much do fluctuations in the magnetosphere or solar wind intesity affect things at ground level? Is there a link between say, flares & earthquakes etc?

Also (& kind of connected to above question), the recent news about the interstellar gas cloud that the heliosphere is entering..... will this compress the heliosphere & if so what effects might be observed. This has to directly affect the Sun somehow, doesn't it??

Sorry for heavy questions :)

Thanks op.

To make it more doomy. and NEO will pass close enough to slice through the Clarke Belt (where our satellites live)

A small (4-5 meter) asteroid discovered earlier today by R. A. Kowalski of the Catalina Sky Survey will pass by Earth on Feb. 4th around 19:40UT at a distance of 11855 km. 2011 CQ1 will not hit Earth, but it will pass well inside the Clarke Belt of geosynchronous satellites

[link to remanzacco.blogspot.com]

2011 CQ1 will be visible for a few hours. It would be really interesting to follow-up this object in the next few hours, during its very close approach when it will reach the magnitude 14!

HAY OTOC!!! is that naked eye visible? Would like to see the thing blowing sats out of the pacific skies at sunset!

Easy questions lol.

1st one, no-one really knows.

But from my (outdated) solar storm thread:

-------Solar Storms and Earthquakes-------

Some have theorized that the magnetic fluctuations of geomagnetic storms can have an influence of the frequency and magnitude of earthquakes by causing minor magnetic/physical vibrations to go deep underground, all the way to the producer of the magnetic field.

The worry is that the geomagnetic storms can set off large earthquakes.

Now you may find other theories elsewhere, but here is mine.

Now if it can set off earthquakes, A basic assumption would be that due to it be tiny fluctuations/vibrations etc, that they will only set off an earthquake just before its time.

The way I see it this will actually lower the magnitude of the earthquakes, due to them having less time to build up energy.

This also assumes that the frequency of earthquakes will only have a minor rise when a solar max is in effect in comparison to a solar min, since the time that the earthquake could be set off may only be a day, a week, a month. Hardly anything in the long run.

But with my assumptions, I come to the conclusion that the highest magnitude earthquakes are more likely to appear on a deep solar minimum, as they have the peace and quiet and constant stability to grow and grow in energy ready to be released.

Yes there is more to the theory but I don't want to clog up the guide too much, the basic point of my theory is that although we may experience a slight rise in the frequency of earthquakes (mainly small) that we should be grateful that they were set off before they had time to grow even bigger, and hence solar max's and general solar storms actually keep the magnitude and overall damage from earthquakes down.

Beyond that there's no real data to suggest one way or the other.

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2nd question, Liekly will compress the heliosphere, and the effects will solely rely on how much it becomes compressed, logically we shouldn't notice anything different unless the heliosheath gets close to us, where the interplanetary magnetic field density will increase and geomagnetic storms will be very intense.

And with a lot of compression, I mean a lot, one would assume that the poles of the sun will expand, think of them like magnetic dipoles here on earth, where under a lot of stress, the aururos drop down in latitude.

Then one would assume the sunspot and active region intensity on the sun will increase.

But since it hasn't happened in living memory, we just don't know.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Auroras looking nice so far.

Oh the fucking doom!!!

A 4-5 meter in diameter asteriod passing by earth at a mere 11855 kilometers.

Oh wait, It already passed us, for shame.

And did it hit something?

Ahhh OTOC a character after my own type, more so than he thinks. It's not just the AC's!!!!!!!

People's moran bones.

Did Bz tip South? ( normally it's aligned North)

S'OK answered my own question
Bz: 10 nT south

On front page of spaceweather. [link to spaceweather.com] Now, if it goes to Kp7 and the cloud clears I might get a glimpse of an aurora! (Fife Scotland)

Your type?!!?!

What mental?

No thanks there, There is no starfleet and no starship venus and you're completely delusional.

Aside from that, you do tend to know what your on about when it comes to solar storms.

And again I must re-iterate, it's not starfleet, it's the TR3F stellar transport crafts up there from the konglorians.. moslty, they have other's there, it's the pyramid shaped ships, the general ships TR3D's, TR3E's, TR3G's and of course the attack/war ships TR3A's and the TR3X's.

there is a few other races around and a lot of ships, but they are mostly the konglorians according to a study done late last year.