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The Dead Ones had Become Alive...and had Created a Dream

 
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In Columbia, there was an aboriginal tribe... deep in the Amazon jungle... called the Kogi.
They had no language... and "spoke" only telepathically... to each other.
In truth, they made little sounds, but these sounds... were not logically
arranged... into any pattern... such as an alphabet.

They were just sounds, but these sounds...
came from the heart... not the mind... and
created images... inside your head, and you
could "see" what the other person... was
communicating.

Ellis said... that they were able to "travel" out of body clearly... and knew everything... that was happening around the world, though they had never
physically left... their homeland. They had never even tried... to communicate.. with the outside world, except to a very fortunate few.

The Kogi... do not see us... as "sleeping" as many of the Hindu and Oriental religions perceive us. The Kogi... see us as "dead".
We are not alive, but only shadows... of the energy we could be.
We do not have enough... life force energy and consciousness... to
be classified by them as real people.

And the Kogi believed... with the use of their psychic abilities, they
could see the future clearly. And what they saw... was similar to
what many other tribes... around the world saw, a world... that was
about to be destroyed... by the misuse of consciousness.

So sometime ago... they traveled over the whole world... in their light bodies... searching for anyone... who is alive. And in the whole world,
they could only find one other tribe... who were Mayan... that lived far in the jungles... of Guatemala. They were so happy... to find someone
else... who was alive.

But the Kogi belief, their prophesy, was that with the coming... of the Eclipse... on August 11th, of 1999... all the world... would stop and
only the Kogi and this one other Mayan tribe... would survive to inhabit the Earth. This is why they were so happy... to find someone else...
other than themselves... who understood.

Then when the eclipse... slowly revealed its face... on the 11th of August,
it became apparent to the Kogi... that something had happened... since
the time... they had searched... the world for life.

Something that they could not understand... for the "great change" had happened, and we, the "dead" ones... were still here. We should have
dissolved back... into the Dream. Not that they wanted us to, that was
not their nature. It simply should have happened.

So the Kogi... set out to find out... why the "dead ones" were still on
Earth, and as they searched... the living vibrating records... of this Reality,
they found... exactly where and why... it had happened.


Some of the "dead ones", had become alive, and had created a dream... with enough life force... to "save the world" as we know it.
In our terms, some of us... had created a "parallel world", where life could continue to grow, a world... where the "dead" could become alive.
The Kogi... were so specific... to locate... exactly who these people were... that were creating this change... that had altered the world's
destiny.
[link to www.strayreality.com]
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Oh, I was expecting your big boobie lady again.tounge
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In Columbia, there was an aboriginal tribe... deep in the Amazon jungle... called the Kogi.
They had no language... and "spoke" only telepathically... to each other.
In truth, they made little sounds, but these sounds... were not logically
arranged... into any pattern... such as an alphabet.

They were just sounds, but these sounds...
came from the heart... not the mind... and
created images... inside your head, and you
could "see" what the other person... was
communicating.

Ellis said... that they were able to "travel" out of body clearly... and knew everything... that was happening around the world, though they had never
physically left... their homeland. They had never even tried... to communicate.. with the outside world, except to a very fortunate few.

The Kogi... do not see us... as "sleeping" as many of the Hindu and Oriental religions perceive us. The Kogi... see us as "dead".
We are not alive, but only shadows... of the energy we could be.
We do not have enough... life force energy and consciousness... to
be classified by them as real people.

And the Kogi believed... with the use of their psychic abilities, they
could see the future clearly. And what they saw... was similar to
what many other tribes... around the world saw, a world... that was
about to be destroyed... by the misuse of consciousness.

So sometime ago... they traveled over the whole world... in their light bodies... searching for anyone... who is alive. And in the whole world,
they could only find one other tribe... who were Mayan... that lived far in the jungles... of Guatemala. They were so happy... to find someone
else... who was alive.

But the Kogi belief, their prophesy, was that with the coming... of the Eclipse... on August 11th, of 1999... all the world... would stop and
only the Kogi and this one other Mayan tribe... would survive to inhabit the Earth. This is why they were so happy... to find someone else...
other than themselves... who understood.

Then when the eclipse... slowly revealed its face... on the 11th of August,
it became apparent to the Kogi... that something had happened... since
the time... they had searched... the world for life.

Something that they could not understand... for the "great change" had happened, and we, the "dead" ones... were still here. We should have
dissolved back... into the Dream. Not that they wanted us to, that was
not their nature. It simply should have happened.

So the Kogi... set out to find out... why the "dead ones" were still on
Earth, and as they searched... the living vibrating records... of this Reality,
they found... exactly where and why... it had happened.


Some of the "dead ones", had become alive, and had created a dream... with enough life force... to "save the world" as we know it.
In our terms, some of us... had created a "parallel world", where life could continue to grow, a world... where the "dead" could become alive.
The Kogi... were so specific... to locate... exactly who these people were... that were creating this change... that had altered the world's
destiny.
[link to www.strayreality.com]
 Quoting: SickScent

thumbs
~you are love
~the key...it's almost time.

!poke the bulge!

~here is my hand...it can be closed like a fist...or open to hold...yet it is still my hand.
~Today is cancelled...due to lack of interest.
~Without order nothing exists. Without chaos nothing evolves.

ac 618285:
~"without both order and chaos, the illusion would not be able to continue.
one day in the far away future, order will submit to chaos and the entire illusion will vanish."
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People will start to realize their own creative potential....

Very soon.

hf
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Oh, I was expecting your big boobie lady again.tounge
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:moe:
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People will start to realize their own creative potential....

Very soon.

hf
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Yes, I agree!
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I just want to say you are all quite welcome. I did it all for you. hf
Comforting the disturbed and disturbing the comfortable.

"So long as it harms no other, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"
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I just want to say you are all quite welcome. I did it all for you. hf
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5a
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:moe:
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"Hey, this fish looks like Moe!"
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:moe:
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"Hey, this fish looks like Moe!"
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scratching
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we are making our future, do what you may I have recently discovered that some realms as we sleep are ours. You can take advantage of them our you can create a beautiful world for all to enjoy or you can stick to our materialism, take and steal from your own kingdom,
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we are making our future, do what you may I have recently discovered that some realms as we sleep are ours. You can take advantage of them our you can create a beautiful world for all to enjoy or you can stick to our materialism, take and steal from your own kingdom,
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Ain't free will grand
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Huh?

Can you tell me where that stuff originally came from please?

It's like nothing I've ever read before about the Kogi.

Ta
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Huh?

Can you tell me where that stuff originally came from please?

It's like nothing I've ever read before about the Kogi.

Ta
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Follow the link at the original post. Interested to hear what you have to say. I do not know much (if anything) about the Kogi except some very brief reading on them.
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...

Some of the "dead ones", had become alive, and had created a dream... with enough life force... to "save the world" as we know it.
In our terms, some of us... had created a "parallel world", where life could continue to grow, a world... where the "dead" could become alive.
The Kogi... were so specific... to locate... exactly who these people were... that were creating this change... that had altered the world's
destiny. [link to www.strayreality.com]
 Quoting: SickScent


Makes me wonder why they weren't busy being cocreative or maintaining balance on a wider scale. But then I understand the laissez faire attitude.

Interesting that they adhered to a calendar, but then again, they could've been duped by their so-called mayan brothers.
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Some of the "dead ones", had become alive, and had created a dream... with enough life force... to "save the world" as we know it.
In our terms, some of us... had created a "parallel world", where life could continue to grow, a world... where the "dead" could become alive.
The Kogi... were so specific... to locate... exactly who these people were... that were creating this change... that had altered the world's
destiny. [link to www.strayreality.com]
 Quoting: SickScent


Makes me wonder why they weren't busy being cocreative or maintaining balance on a wider scale. But then I understand the laissez faire attitude.

Interesting that they adhered to a calendar, but then again, they could've been duped by their so-called mayan brothers.
 Quoting: just a dude


From what I got out of it, it seemed that they had thought that the 'dead' ones could not be 'saved'. Maybe something like the dead ones were absent from any type of 'balancing' they could try and achieve...imagine the entire world population thought to being that way...IMO, you would make damn sure nothing would intrude upon your own light...ie, solitude.
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Huh?

Can you tell me where that stuff originally came from please?

It's like nothing I've ever read before about the Kogi.

Ta
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Follow the link at the original post. Interested to hear what you have to say. I do not know much (if anything) about the Kogi except some very brief reading on them.
 Quoting: SickScent

Hi. Yeah, I followed the link, and the rest of the article there regarding the Kogi was pretty good, but that 'Ellis' stuff in your original post still kinda grates on me though. I chased it around the internet for half an hour and still can't find out where it originally came from or what the back story is to it.

Having said that, the Kogi are just about my favourite people on the planet. I first heard of them back in the 80's when I was starting my archaeological career and they stayed with me ever since (The BBC docu is well worth a watch if you can find it).

I always used their society as a benchmark as to how complicated/simple/wonderful humans could be. The gourd-and-stick coca thing was my first introduction into cognitive/symbolic studies - something I've taken much further in latter years - and I thank them for that :D

In short, I think mankind does itself a great disservice if it fails to take heed of what the Kogi say. We are 'Little Brother' - and we act like it.

I've got a reading list next door (in a box), gimme a week or so and I'll dig it out for you if you'd like.

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so how did someone get this information from people who cannot speak or communicate to anyone but themselves?
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Good question.
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I remember seeing a documentary about these people many years ago. Their concerns about what was happening to the environment up in the mountains were so great, that they sent a fellow down into civilization in order to learn the languages necessary to communicate them. This eventually led to the documentary being made about them.

Their ideas about spirituality are worth a close look. I reformatted it to get rid of that annoying breathless spacing that was used.

"Ereira translates... The Kogi concept of Aluna, a spirit world, which imitates everything material. According to the Kogi, Aluna is intelligence. It is concentrated thought and memory. It is spiritual energy, It makes possible such human aspects as growth, birth and sexuality. Aluna created nine worlds, and each world was given a single daughter. The first eight worlds were infertile, but the ninth was capable of conceiving children."
As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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I remember seeing a documentary about these people many years ago. Their concerns about what was happening to the environment up in the mountains were so great, that they sent a fellow down into civilization in order to learn the languages necessary to communicate them. This eventually led to the documentary being made about them.

Their ideas about spirituality are worth a close look. I reformatted it to get rid of that annoying breathless spacing that was used.

"Ereira translates... The Kogi concept of Aluna, a spirit world, which imitates everything material. According to the Kogi, Aluna is intelligence. It is concentrated thought and memory. It is spiritual energy, It makes possible such human aspects as growth, birth and sexuality. Aluna created nine worlds, and each world was given a single daughter. The first eight worlds were infertile, but the ninth was capable of conceiving children."
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I guess now we are entering in the ninth world starting March 9th we can conceive -- co-create consciously and in grace
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I remember seeing a documentary about these people many years ago. Their concerns about what was happening to the environment up in the mountains were so great, that they sent a fellow down into civilization in order to learn the languages necessary to communicate them. This eventually led to the documentary being made about them.

Their ideas about spirituality are worth a close look. I reformatted it to get rid of that annoying breathless spacing that was used.

"Ereira translates... The Kogi concept of Aluna, a spirit world, which imitates everything material. According to the Kogi, Aluna is intelligence. It is concentrated thought and memory. It is spiritual energy, It makes possible such human aspects as growth, birth and sexuality. Aluna created nine worlds, and each world was given a single daughter. The first eight worlds were infertile, but the ninth was capable of conceiving children."
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TO BE RELEASED AT THE END OF 2011

[link to www.alunathemovie.com]
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I remember seeing a documentary about these people many years ago. Their concerns about what was happening to the environment up in the mountains were so great, that they sent a fellow down into civilization in order to learn the languages necessary to communicate them. This eventually led to the documentary being made about them.

Their ideas about spirituality are worth a close look. I reformatted it to get rid of that annoying breathless spacing that was used.

"Ereira translates... The Kogi concept of Aluna, a spirit world, which imitates everything material. According to the Kogi, Aluna is intelligence. It is concentrated thought and memory. It is spiritual energy, It makes possible such human aspects as growth, birth and sexuality. Aluna created nine worlds, and each world was given a single daughter. The first eight worlds were infertile, but the ninth was capable of conceiving children."
 Quoting: Khalen



TO BE RELEASED AT THE END OF 2011

[link to www.alunathemovie.com]
 Quoting: aether


I remember seeing a documentary about these people many years ago. Their concerns about what was happening to the environment up in the mountains were so great, that they sent a fellow down into civilization in order to learn the languages necessary to communicate them. This eventually led to the documentary being made about them.

Their ideas about spirituality are worth a close look. I reformatted it to get rid of that annoying breathless spacing that was used.

"Ereira translates... The Kogi concept of Aluna, a spirit world, which imitates everything material. According to the Kogi, Aluna is intelligence. It is concentrated thought and memory. It is spiritual energy, It makes possible such human aspects as growth, birth and sexuality. Aluna created nine worlds, and each world was given a single daughter. The first eight worlds were infertile, but the ninth was capable of conceiving children."
 Quoting: Khalen



TO BE RELEASED AT THE END OF 2011

[link to www.alunathemovie.com]
 Quoting: aether

Ooops, am I time sliding again?
pilot









Nah, just that there is a previous older documentary.

"In 1990, the Kogi decided... they must speak out... to the rest
of the world. They had survived... by keeping themselves isolated...
but they decided that it was time to send a message to the
Younger Brother.



They could see... that something was wrong... with their mountain,
with the heart... of the world. The snows... had stopped falling and
the rivers... were not so full. If their mountain... was ill, then the whole
world... was in trouble.



A few years ago... the Kogi Tribe,
approached the BBC and Alan Ereira,
asking them... to pass on... the tribe's
concerns... about the fate... of the world.





In response... to the tribe's request, the BBC... produced a
documentary... called "From the Heart of the World", and
Ereira... wrote a companion book... called "The Elder Brothers"."
As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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Thanks SickScent, another interesting post.

The Australian Aborigines have legends and cave painting of beings they call the Wandjina. These beings have no mouths, and spoke with their minds. They are often referred to as creator gods, and are said to have descended from the stars.

Paintings of these beings occur mainly in the Kimberlies Region of north Western Australia. The paintings are retouched, to show reverence.

The main legend around them, is that if 'God's Laws' are broken, they will return and drown all the people, as they are said to have done once before. I have also read that they have to do with judgement, and that you can stand before a painting and ask for forgiveness.

At the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Sydney, a big Wandjina image was a small part of the ceremony, and therefore the Wandjina's face was beamed out to the rest of the world in 1997.

I have looked for some links for you, but haven't found a site with as much information about them as I have previously read. I will link in what I did find. They are so sacred to the Aborigines, that they don't talk to the white man much about them.

Apparently they mentioned in the Chariots of the Gods book and documentary, as being proof of extra-terrestrial beings having visited Earth. However, the book I read by an Aboriginal elder said that the halos around their heads, which were mistaken for space helmets, actually represent the lightening, thunder and clouds which they bring with them.

It is interesting what the Kogi said, and found in August 1999. When I first started receiving messages in 1991 that the world would end, unless we could change, I was compelled to try to convince people to open their hearts and change, and start caring for the planet.

The internet made a lot of channelled information more widely available, and connected a lot of like minded people. Maybe that had something to do with the surprising result that was achieved.

In 1999, an Inuit elder/shaman came to Australia with the intention of cleansing our sacred sites/energy points, to assist with the change of energies. The last ceremony, held at Uluru, was in the week after the 1999 eclipse.

[link to www.google.com.au]

[link to www.godchecker.com]

[link to www.theage.com.au]

[link to www.enotes.com]
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Another excellent post Sickscent. Everything is coming together just as it should. hf
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Another excellent post Sickscent. Everything is coming together just as it should. hf
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Agree...
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...

Some of the "dead ones", had become alive, and had created a dream... with enough life force... to "save the world" as we know it.
In our terms, some of us... had created a "parallel world", where life could continue to grow, a world... where the "dead" could become alive.
The Kogi... were so specific... to locate... exactly who these people were... that were creating this change... that had altered the world's
destiny. [link to www.strayreality.com]
 Quoting: SickScent


Makes me wonder why they weren't busy being cocreative or maintaining balance on a wider scale. But then I understand the laissez faire attitude.

Interesting that they adhered to a calendar, but then again, they could've been duped by their so-called mayan brothers.
 Quoting: just a dude


From what I got out of it, it seemed that they had thought that the 'dead' ones could not be 'saved'. Maybe something like the dead ones were absent from any type of 'balancing' they could try and achieve...imagine the entire world population thought to being that way...IMO, you would make damn sure nothing would intrude upon your own light...ie, solitude.
 Quoting: SickScent




who's to say they haven't been working on realms which to us have remained unseen/imperceptible/incredible
it would make more sense that such a society would rather than wouldn't imo
and i suspect they would largely remain elusive so as not to disturb their own harmony -wouldn't you?
- and that harmony iself would be vital to the work they do/have been doing
which they wouldn't have any need to broadcast
and doing so may be counter productive to their intent




thanks ss
very nice find

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