HERE IS WHY - CHEMAZOIDES ARE WRONG - ! ! ...

Here is why Hazzy is envious...

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Asian lady-boys are better "equipped" than he is!!!

I live in a small town with no air path above. When people hear an airplane they acctually look up.

Sometimes an airplane flies three laps around this town leaving streaks of persistent contrails...that happened three times this week already, last this morning.

These contrails spread out into clouds, and the sky becomes hazy...

If the composition off our atmosphere has changed, causing this to occur...then it is a cause for concern. The summer is short here and we need every bit of sunshine for our berries and fruits to ripen.

If this is done on purpose, it´s a cause for concern...

If they´re not doing anything...just flying in circles spending my taxmoney...it´s a cause for concern

give up man... they are there.. we see them . they are not normal.
whats with your agenda?
I mean I think the whole Jesus Christ thing is ajoke but you don´t see me baiting christians (well maybe lester occasionaly).
None of the points you have ever made on this subject has ever come moderately close to explaining what we are seeing out yet you continue the same argument over and over..... I tell you what when you have something new to add please post it but come on you keep on trotting out the same facts and its getting a little tiresome.
We get it REAL HAZZARD you think chemtrails are bullshit!

Has anybody ever denied persistant contrails?

hazzoid,

why are recent chemtrails observed at dawn break.. overnight spraying?? we/our airport have a curfew overnight got all commercial jets!!

and this is a recent phenomenon.

YOU ,DEBUNKER, HAS BEEN DEBUNKED!!!

>>why are recent chemtrails observed at dawn break.. overnight spraying?? we/our airport have a curfew overnight got all commercial jets!!<<

before you shout out you win , have you contacted the air authorities and asked them what planes are in the skies ? if they are charted comercial flights , private or military ?

i bet you havent

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The part referencing CHEMTRAILS is on Page 46


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Did you know that Dr. Edward Teller, the father of the H-Bomb told the elite that if they did not begin to slow down global warming, we could enter a new ice age within several decades or sooner?

Have you looked up into the sky and noticed very long and wide “contrails” for the last few years?

Well, they aren’t contrails, my friend, they are actually called CHEM-TRAILS (SHORT FOR CHEMICAL TRAILS), and if you watch them, they will spread out and soon form a haze high in the atmosphere, even though you may have had a perfectly clear blue sky!!

Did you know that the chem-trail mystery is closely associated with the effort to stop global warming by dispersing “reflectants” in the upper atmosphere?

Did you know that the military has piggy backed biological experiments on the American people using these “chem-trails? Insiders claim one of the code names for the project was “CLOVERLEAF”.

Deadly biological agents have been found in samples coming from the so-called “chem-trails”.

No official as yet will answer questions you might ask concerning these mysterious “vapor trails”. Even the media refuses to speak about it!!

These mysterious chem-trails are showing up all over the globe. Now you cannot spray over ANY NATION unless you get permission to do so. So the order coming down from the top of the elite IS A GLOBAL ORDER TO ALL THE NATIONS, and that should prove something to everyone.

The order is coming from the global super-government! So what is it all about? OFFICIAL DENIAL IS AGAIN THE ORDER OF THE DAY


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Total...."EYE OPENER"...

I don´t know what these abnormal contrails are but starting about 4 years ago maybe longer, I could see them here in N Texas at least 4 or 5 times a month in any type of weather. I haven´t seen them in over year. If there so normal where are they now? Before I saw them winter spring summer and fall, now not at all. Sorry folks but there not normal contrails , now I don´t think there a plot to kill us all. I think they are used for weather modification, now that doesn´t mean there harmless. It´s strange how they just stopped, but they maybe used with haarp and this area is not being targetted right now.

why do i not see these chemtrails ?

surely it is a world wide event if they plan to stop global cooling

where i am now is right near an airforce base , i see eurofighters zoom across the sky on a daily basis yet i have never in my life witnessed something that i find odd about the trails planes leave

Wonder what those "other" purposes are?




To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board,
and for other purposes.


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 3, 2005
Mrs. HUTCHISON introduced the following bill; which was read twice
and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and
Transportation


A BILL
To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board,
and for other purposes.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Weather Modification Research and
Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005´.

SEC. 2. PURPOSE.

It is the purpose of this Act to develop and implement a
comprehensive and coordinated national weather modification policy
and a national cooperative Federal and State program of weather
modification research and development.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) BOARD- The term `Board´ means the Weather Modification Advisory
and Research Board.

(2) EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR- The term `Executive Director´ means the
Executive Director of the Weather Modification Advisory and Research
Board.

(3) RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The term `research and development´
means theoretical analysis, exploration, experimentation, and the
extension of investigative findings and theories of scientific or
technical nature into practical application for experimental and
demonstration purposes, including the experimental production and
testing of models, devices, equipment, materials, and processes.

(4) WEATHER MODIFICATION- The term `weather modification´ means
changing or controlling, or attempting to change or control, by
artificial methods the natural development of atmospheric cloud
forms or precipitation forms which occur in the troposphere.

SEC. 4. WEATHER MODIFICATION ADVISORY AND RESEARCH BOARD ESTABLISHED.

(a) IN GENERAL- There is established in the Department of Commerce
the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board.

(b) MEMBERSHIP-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Board shall consist of 11 members appointed by
the Secretary of Commerce, of whom--

(A) at least 1 shall be a representative of the American
Meteorological Society;

(B) at least 1 shall be a representative of the American Society of
Civil Engineers;

(C) at least 1 shall be a representative of the National Academy of
Sciences;

(D) at least 1 shall be a representative of the National Center for
Atmospheric Research of the National Science Foundation;

(E) at least 2 shall be representatives of the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration of the Department of Commerce;

(F) at least 1 shall be a representative of institutions of higher
education or research institutes; and

(G) at least 1 shall be a representative of a State that is
currently supporting operational weather modification projects.

(2) TENURE- A member of the Board serves at the pleasure of the
Secretary of Commerce.

(3) VACANCIES- Any vacancy on the Board shall be filled in the same
manner as the original appointment.

(b) ADVISORY COMMITTEES- The Board may establish advisory committees
to advise the Board and to make recommendations to the Board
concerning legislation, policies, administration, research, and
other matters.

(c) INITIAL MEETING- Not later than 30 days after the date on which
all members of the Board have been appointed, the Board shall hold
its first meeting.

(d) MEETINGS- The Board shall meet at the call of the Chair.

(e) QUORUM- A majority of the members of the Board shall constitute
a quorum, but a lesser number of members may hold hearings.

(f) CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR- The Board shall select a Chair and Vice
Chair from among its members.

SEC. 5. DUTIES OF THE BOARD.

(a) PROMOTION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- In order to assist in
expanding the theoretical and practical knowledge of weather
modification, the Board shall promote and fund research and
development, studies, and investigations with respect to--

(1) improved forecast and decision-making technologies for weather
modification operations, including tailored computer workstations
and software and new observation systems with remote sensors; and

(2) assessments and evaluations of the efficacy of weather
modification, both purposeful (including cloud-seeding operations)
and inadvertent (including downwind effects and anthropogenic
effects).

(b) FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE- Unless the use of the money is restricted
or subject to any limitations provided by law, the Board shall use
amounts in the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund--

(1) to pay its expenses in the administration of this Act, and

(2) to provide for research and development with respect to weather
modifications by grants to, or contracts or cooperative
arrangements, with public or private agencies.

(c) REPORT- The Board shall submit to the Secretary biennially a
report on its findings and research results.

SEC. 6. POWERS OF THE BOARD.

(a) STUDIES, INVESTIGATIONS, AND HEARINGS- The Board may make any
studies or investigations, obtain any information, and hold any
hearings necessary or proper to administer or enforce this Act or
any rules or orders issued under this Act.

(b) PERSONNEL- The Board may employ, as provided for in
appropriations Acts, an Executive Director and other support staff
necessary to perform duties and functions under this Act.

(c) COOPERATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES- The Board may cooperate with
public or private agencies to promote the purposes of this Act.

(d) COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS- The Board may enter into cooperative
agreements with the head of any department or agency of the United
States, an appropriate official of any State or political
subdivision of a State, or an appropriate official of any private or
public agency or organization for conducting weather modification
activities or cloud-seeding operations.

(e) CONDUCT AND CONTRACTS FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The
Executive Director, with the approval of the Board, may conduct and
may contract for research and development activities relating to the
purposes of this section.

SEC. 7. COOPERATION WITH THE WEATHER MODIFICATION OPERATIONS AND
RESEARCH BOARD.

The heads of the departments and agencies of the United States and
the heads of any other public or private agencies and institutions
that receive research funds from the United States shall, to the
extent possible, give full support and cooperation to the Board and
to initiate independent research and development programs that
address weather modifications.

SEC. 8. FUNDING.

(a) IN GENERAL- There is established within the Treasury of the
United States the Weather Modification Research and Development
Fund, which shall consist of amounts appropriated pursuant to
subsection (b) or received by the Board under subsection (c).

(b) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There is authorized to be
appropriated to the Board for the purposes of carrying out the
provisions of this Act $10,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2005
through 2014. Any sums appropriated under this subsection shall
remain available, without fiscal year limitation, until expended.

(c) GIFTS- The Board may accept, use, and dispose of gifts or
donations of services or property.

SEC. 9. EFFECTIVE DATE.

This Act shall take effect on October 1, 2005.


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"before you shout out you win , have you contacted the air authorities and asked them what planes are in the skies ?"

Acid,
I live in a military fighter fly zone, these planes are supposed to fly at heights of 250ft and above while practicing.
There have been lots of occasions when they fly below this, just above the roofs of the houses here, many people have complained to the RAF and have even written to the local newspapers, the RAF may write back and apologise, yet still it happens.
If they ignore the requests of many local peoples complaints, what chance do we have of them telling us what may indeed be a secret?
By the way these military jets terrify our children as the scream above the roofs.

Prove me wrong,and I will never debunk ANYTHING ever again.


well let´s make sure this stays at the top. So everyone can see it.









(3) RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The term `research and development´
means theoretical analysis, exploration, experimentation, and the
extension of investigative findings and theories of scientific or
technical nature into practical application for experimental and
demonstration purposes, including the experimental production and
testing of models, devices, equipment, materials, and processes.

(4) WEATHER MODIFICATION- The term `weather modification´ means
changing or controlling, or attempting to change or control, by
artificial methods the natural development of atmospheric cloud
forms or precipitation forms which occur in the troposphere.

"I think they are used for weather modification, now that doesn´t mean there harmless."



I agree there is a legitimate concern about contrails and other products of jet fuel combustion.

1) the Earth-atmosphere radiation budget may change because of more high, thin, ice-crystal clouds and the increase in greenhouse gases, principally water vapor and carbon dioxide and,

2) oxides of nitrogen alter ozone concentrations in the troposphere and stratosphere.


I never disputed this,and never will.

RH what do you think this means?


(2) assessments and evaluations of the efficacy of weather
modification, both purposeful (including cloud-seeding operations)
and inadvertent _____(including downwind effects and ____anthropogenic
effects).

Hi Acid

I believe you, but that doesn´t mean others are not observing these lingering and sreading chemtrails overhead... They appear on some days and for undeterminable lengths of time then seems to just stop.

Only then to be repeated.. spraying seems to be occuring in a cyclical manner solely dependant on an objective we are not privy too.

The whole freaking thing is too bizarre...

Especially factoring in the heavy duty secrecy and debunking orders that continue to be adhered to in light and in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary...

Also given the fact chemtrails absolute existence have gone way far and beyond a shadow of a doubt for so many more others...including myself, then ever before.

You guys may well indeed not see them..
But that is as far as I am concerned becoming more and more unlikely with each passing day.. but still possible, I guess.

acid,
you ve been drinking acid?

Prove me wrong,and I will never debunk ANYTHING ever again.


You can debunk and pontificate all you want, Hazzard. Whatever turns you on. I don´t have to prove anything to you.

anthropogenic

adj : of or relating to the study of the origins and development of human beings [syn: anthropogenetic]

"You guys may well indeed not see them.."


If you mean the hundreds of links to pictures you have provided,YES we see them,but they are called condensation trails,aka,contrails.


It is not unusual for contrails to spread and merge so that they cover a good portion of the sky with a filmy veil of ice crystals.

Sometimes the moisture and ice nuclei injected into the air by the jet engines can support the formation of natural cirrus, even if contrails didnt form initially, provided that a gentle uplift causes enough cooling for clouds to form.

Real, I´m a habitual sky watcher. My grandmother raised me and use to send me outside "to watch the clouds" for her before I even started school. Now I did watch those clouds and I learned a lot, because she taught me what each kind of cloud meant and how to spot thunderheads and hail clouds. Then at 11 I got my first telescope with a solar filter so I was out there day and night. I as a young girl I always wanted to see a comet or fireball, so I watched the sky and believe me I never missed a contrail, because I was hoping for a comet. There are abnormal contrails now that there wasn´t a few years ago. Like I´ve said before I believe there for weather modification and is something added to jet fuel. Less likely but possable is that our atmosphere has been changed enough to cause this.

"You can debunk and pontificate all you want, Hazzard. Whatever turns you on. I don´t have to prove anything to you."



2211. is wrong!

The burdon of proof still lies with the crew that keep telling everyone that chemtrails are real.

Debunking chemazoides is somewhat of an overkill,I know,all they got is...

-I see them,look,there they are! !

My you do have delusions of grandeur....don´t you, Hazzard.

You are the one making the claim, Hazzard. No one here started the thread but YOU.

And while you are it...get your own samples and prove it.

"Less likely but possable is that our atmosphere has been changed enough to cause this."

Nerak ID 15815.



I contend that there is no visible or other physical evidence of high-altitude spraying, and so I do not believe in chemtrails.

The moniker might just as well be applied to contrails, however, for both the visible and invisible (chemical) components of jet exhaust are cause for at least some concern.

Nerak, that is my conclusion as well. I´ve noticed that these planes show up two days before an appraoching low pressure or cold front...I watch the weather charts and can predict when they´ll show up. And they do...

"You are the one making the claim, Hazzard. No one here started the thread but YOU."


2211.

Do you really think that the chemtrail debate started with this thread! !

Octo upper level lows bring in cold air aloft which is the keystone for all contrail formation. Do you see them in summer also with no assassocated low. I have many many times. Thats the main reason I know there not normal. Now I´m not saying that you can´t have seen them then also, but it´s a little harded to pin abnormal on them. Octo what area do you live in?

2211.

Do you really think that the chemtrail debate started with this thread! !

I am referring to THIS thread.
PROVE it, Hazzard. Prove that the samples gathered and analyzed by a Microbiologist are not valid. Until then....you have NOTHING to even disprove.

They added a few metals to jet fuel to help reduce radiation due to earths reduced magnetic field performance.

Nerak, I live on the west coast of Finland...I´ve always been interested in watching the skies, since this is the way weather has been predicted among farmers and fishermen over here for hundreds of years. I´m not saying persistent contrails show up two days before a cold front...the planes do. I can see the and hear them circling my town but today is cloudy, I can´t tell if they left trails...