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GUN THREAD... your last hold to freedom....Answers to questions you have been afraid to ask

 
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You know what a good gun trainer will teach you? How not to shoot someone. 99.9% of the time, a gun fired straight up into the sky will prevent an attack from anyone.
 Quoting: Gabriel

You're responsible for every bullet that leaves your gun. Where's that bullet fired into the sky going to land?
 Quoting: Evil Twin

you do know that the actual bullet is the tip of the shell and is no bigger than a pea. If it falls back on your head you will wonder if bird just pooped on you.
 Quoting: Gabriel

No serious firearms instructor will ever counsel you to fire into the air. In fact, they will tell you that if you have time to fire a warning shot at all, you're probably not legally justified to shoot at all.
 Quoting: Evil Twin

Holy shit Gabriel you are fucking dumb I am sorry, I should have realized that when you recommended a 9mm.

If a bullet comes back down from the sky you will think a bird pooped on you? You need to go back to high school and take basic physics.

By the way Evil Twin. The .45 ACP is technically obsolete. .460 Rowland all the way. Just need to get people to adopt.
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I saw a nice gun at the pawn shop called a Bryco, or something like that. I'm going to buy it next week.
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Find your state on the list here and click it...

[link to www.armslist.com]

Buy from a private party (which is legal in most states) and the government will not know that you own it. It is generally cheaper to buy from a private party + you can avoid the round ups that the government will eventually do, starting with the people who will resist the most = gun owners.
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A lot of 20ga actually kick harder than 12ga due to them usually being built lighter and not able to soak up the recoil as well.
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Okay i'll start. My recommended Hand Gun would be a 9mm for several reasons. The most important reason is the availability of the Ammo if all hell broke lose in the world.
 Quoting: Gabriel


Pope John Paul at 60+ years old took 4 - 9mm bullets and lived.

I recommend .40 cal = hydrostatic shock.
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You know what a good gun trainer will teach you? How not to shoot someone. 99.9% of the time, a gun fired straight up into the sky will prevent an attack from anyone.
 Quoting: Gabriel


NEVER fire a gun in to the sky!!! That bullet will eventually drop and could kill an innocent person.

Always fire in to the ground if you see the need to fire off a few rounds to scare someone...
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OP, I am interested in purchasing my first gun, a pistol. I'm leaning towards a .40 cal Glock. I wanted to get the GEN 4 glock. It was a S&W. I get confused about that, it could be a Glock, but a Smith & Wesson glock? Although Glock is also a manufacturer? Sorry, I'm a noob.

Anyway...what do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258175

Smith & Wesson, and Glock are competing manufactures. If anyone knows differently, please post.

.40 Cal and 9mm are very similar. It comes down to ammo availability for me. .40 cal has a slightly bigger kick. Pick a gun that feels comfortable in your hand and then try it out in the firing range to see it you like it. Be sure to take a lesson please.
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That things KICKS!
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My recommendation for a shotgun is a 20 gauge. The reason for this is it can be handled well by the women and if necessary, your younger family members.... a lot less kick than a 12 gauge.
 Quoting: Gabriel



DISAGREE!

Buy a 12 gauge and attach a good recoil pad. If you want to STOP an intruder and your life depends on it...always use a 12 gauge with "00" buck shot!!! If you want less kick, buy the low recoil shells in addition to a good recoil pad.
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OP, I am interested in purchasing my first gun, a pistol. I'm leaning towards a .40 cal Glock. I wanted to get the GEN 4 glock. It was a S&W. I get confused about that, it could be a Glock, but a Smith & Wesson glock? Although Glock is also a manufacturer? Sorry, I'm a noob.

Anyway...what do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258175

Smith & Wesson, and Glock are competing manufactures. If anyone knows differently, please post.

.40 Cal and 9mm are very similar. It comes down to ammo availability for me. .40 cal has a slightly bigger kick. Pick a gun that feels comfortable in your hand and then try it out in the firing range to see it you like it. Be sure to take a lesson please.
 Quoting: Gabriel


The S&W on a Glock (or any other manufacture) means that it uses .40 caliber S&W ammo.

Smith & Wesson designed that particular ammo...therefore, all .40 cal ammo is called .40 cal S&W ammo due to US Patents that S&W owns on the .40 cal ammo.

I have 2 Springfield Armory .40 cal S&W handguns.
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will what ever u need look here great ammo prices... [link to palmettostatearmory.com]
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You're responsible for every bullet that leaves your gun. Where's that bullet fired into the sky going to land?
 Quoting: Evil Twin

you do know that the actual bullet is the tip of the shell and is no bigger than a pea. If it falls back on your head you will wonder if bird just pooped on you.
 Quoting: Gabriel

No serious firearms instructor will ever counsel you to fire into the air. In fact, they will tell you that if you have time to fire a warning shot at all, you're probably not legally justified to shoot at all.
 Quoting: Evil Twin

Holy shit Gabriel you are fucking dumb I am sorry, I should have realized that when you recommended a 9mm.

If a bullet comes back down from the sky you will think a bird pooped on you? You need to go back to high school and take basic physics.

By the way Evil Twin. The .45 ACP is technically obsolete. .460 Rowland all the way. Just need to get people to adopt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 931632

I was being sarcastic. Have you ever heard of someone getting hurt from a bullet falling from he sky? I haven't but i don't get out much lol. I recommended a 9mm for first time buyers. Would you want someone who never trained or shot a gun to go out for the first time and buy a .460 Rowland??? Anyway, thanks for the imput.
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A lot of 20ga actually kick harder than 12ga due to them usually being built lighter and not able to soak up the recoil as well.
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Now this is the type of info i wanted when i started this thread. I didn't know this and thanks for the post.
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I'm a gun freak and I'll give you some advice. 1911, it's an all metal gun that, if you get a A-1, is a .45 cal. The ammo is most common there is. You can't go wrong with a revolver either.
.45, because shooting twice is silly!

1911forum dot com

Check that site out, you can get lost in it with gun info.
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My recommendation for a shotgun is a 20 gauge. The reason for this is it can be handled well by the women and if necessary, your younger family members.... a lot less kick than a 12 gauge.
 Quoting: Gabriel



DISAGREE!

Buy a 12 gauge and attach a good recoil pad. If you want to STOP an intruder and your life depends on it...always use a 12 gauge with "00" buck shot!!! If you want less kick, buy the low recoil shells in addition to a good recoil pad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250848

Great post thank you. I am learning a lot here myself. I am primarily a handgun guy and only have the one 20 gauge, maybe time to upgrade.
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OP, I am interested in purchasing my first gun, a pistol. I'm leaning towards a .40 cal Glock. I wanted to get the GEN 4 glock. It was a S&W. I get confused about that, it could be a Glock, but a Smith & Wesson glock? Although Glock is also a manufacturer? Sorry, I'm a noob.

Anyway...what do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258175

Smith & Wesson, and Glock are competing manufactures. If anyone knows differently, please post.

.40 Cal and 9mm are very similar. It comes down to ammo availability for me. .40 cal has a slightly bigger kick. Pick a gun that feels comfortable in your hand and then try it out in the firing range to see it you like it. Be sure to take a lesson please.
 Quoting: Gabriel


The S&W on a Glock (or any other manufacture) means that it uses .40 caliber S&W ammo.

Smith & Wesson designed that particular ammo...therefore, all .40 cal ammo is called .40 cal S&W ammo due to US Patents that S&W owns on the .40 cal ammo.

I have 2 Springfield Armory .40 cal S&W handguns.
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awesome post again.. thanks for that info.
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
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You're responsible for every bullet that leaves your gun. Where's that bullet fired into the sky going to land?
 Quoting: Evil Twin

you do know that the actual bullet is the tip of the shell and is no bigger than a pea. If it falls back on your head you will wonder if bird just pooped on you.
 Quoting: Gabriel

No serious firearms instructor will ever counsel you to fire into the air. In fact, they will tell you that if you have time to fire a warning shot at all, you're probably not legally justified to shoot at all.
 Quoting: Evil Twin

Holy shit Gabriel you are fucking dumb I am sorry, I should have realized that when you recommended a 9mm.

If a bullet comes back down from the sky you will think a bird pooped on you? You need to go back to high school and take basic physics.

By the way Evil Twin. The .45 ACP is technically obsolete. .460 Rowland all the way. Just need to get people to adopt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 931632

Go ahead and pimp your .460 rowland to the masses.I will stick with my .45
I have a glock 21,my 1911,my HK usc .45 carbine,& tommy gun.I will keep my .45
As far as shooting in the sky,i will feel like a bird pooped on you.That is the most retarded thing i have ever heard.You need to go take a basic hunters safety course.

The person who was looking at the BRYCO, RUN RUN RUN RUN do not buy it.No brycos,jennings,lorcins,ravens.You would be better off with a high point.
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Someone said .45 is obsolete...the only thing obsolete is their knowledge of fire arms.
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All Guns should be banned! All of them. The feds should take as many as they can from the general Populace and make it a felony carrying decades of Jail-time if caught with one.


The constitution is out of date concerning this matter.....

The American Population is no longer smart enough, responsible enough, and also is lacking good character. They cant be trusted anymore.

You ever just look around you? At the people who are American Citizens?? You want "these people" to have the right to own a fucking GUN??????????????????

yeah, I know, mr big tough guy , you are packing too....thats what keep people from attacking you....

..................................right.
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753

The best assault rifle ever made and the bullets are easy to get. You can trudge that thing through the mud, freeze it, soak it, and it'll still do the job. I don't have a AK but I do have an AR-15 and I love the .223 ammo!
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753

The best assault rifle ever made and the bullets are easy to get. You can trudge that thing through the mud, freeze it, soak it, and it'll still do the job. I don't have a AK but I do have an AR-15 and I love the .223 ammo!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194147


Hell yeah. I thought about getting an AR-15, but I can pick up an AK for 1/2 to 1/3 the price.
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OP, I am interested in purchasing my first gun, a pistol. I'm leaning towards a .40 cal Glock. I wanted to get the GEN 4 glock. It was a S&W. I get confused about that, it could be a Glock, but a Smith & Wesson glock? Although Glock is also a manufacturer? Sorry, I'm a noob.

Anyway...what do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258175

Smith & Wesson, and Glock are competing manufactures. If anyone knows differently, please post.

.40 Cal and 9mm are very similar. It comes down to ammo availability for me. .40 cal has a slightly bigger kick. Pick a gun that feels comfortable in your hand and then try it out in the firing range to see it you like it. Be sure to take a lesson please.
 Quoting: Gabriel


See that's what I was confused about, I know they are different manufacturers...I saw it in a magazine, maybe I just read it wrong?

I went to a shooting range and shot a .40 and some other ones, along with an assault rifle, AR 15 I believe. I did like the .40 and my friend said it has better stopping power than a 9mm. The Gen 4 has a slightly slimmer grip apparently so that would fit me perfect I think.

If I want to get a Gun legally in my State I have to take a class, so yeah lessons for sure.
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753

The best assault rifle ever made and the bullets are easy to get. You can trudge that thing through the mud, freeze it, soak it, and it'll still do the job. I don't have a AK but I do have an AR-15 and I love the .223 ammo!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194147


Hell yeah. I thought about getting an AR-15, but I can pick up an AK for 1/2 to 1/3 the price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753

You can build a AR-15 now for 500 all day long.

The AK though is and will always be the best and most reliable assault weapon ever developed.Pretty dam good for a gun made in 1947.
I have the Saiga 12,.223,308 and 7.62x39 (all p grips on them) they are real russian recievers.
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You know what a good gun trainer will teach you? How not to shoot someone. 99.9% of the time, a gun fired straight up into the sky will prevent an attack from anyone.
 Quoting: Gabriel

You're responsible for every bullet that leaves your gun. Where's that bullet fired into the sky going to land?
 Quoting: Evil Twin


+10000000000000000000
That is actually something a new gun owner should be taught, DON'T SHOOT INTO THE SKY... people have died that way. instead if you are just trying to scare someone shoot into an inanimate object that shouldn't ricochet. Or... a limb... you know, whatever lol I kid about that last bit....
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753


TOTALLY AGREE!

Also...buy a Draco AK-47 - it is the legal pistol version of the AK-47. Nothing beats a pistol with a 40 round magazine :--))
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All Guns should be banned! All of them. The feds should take as many as they can from the general Populace and make it a felony carrying decades of Jail-time if caught with one.


The constitution is out of date concerning this matter.....

The American Population is no longer smart enough, responsible enough, and also is lacking good character. They cant be trusted anymore.

You ever just look around you? At the people who are American Citizens?? You want "these people" to have the right to own a fucking GUN??????????????????

yeah, I know, mr big tough guy , you are packing too....thats what keep people from attacking you....

..................................right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1085031

Move to Canada you libtard!
The only reason you have the ability to post your opinions is because of people like us. People that will pick up their guns, pack their bags, and leave their family to protect ignorant people like you. With the hope that someday your gene pool will be diverse enough to produce an intelligent offspring.
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OP, I am interested in purchasing my first gun, a pistol. I'm leaning towards a .40 cal Glock. I wanted to get the GEN 4 glock. It was a S&W. I get confused about that, it could be a Glock, but a Smith & Wesson glock? Although Glock is also a manufacturer? Sorry, I'm a noob.

Anyway...what do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258175

Smith & Wesson, and Glock are competing manufactures. If anyone knows differently, please post.

.40 Cal and 9mm are very similar. It comes down to ammo availability for me. .40 cal has a slightly bigger kick. Pick a gun that feels comfortable in your hand and then try it out in the firing range to see it you like it. Be sure to take a lesson please.
 Quoting: Gabriel


The S&W on a Glock (or any other manufacture) means that it uses .40 caliber S&W ammo.

Smith & Wesson designed that particular ammo...therefore, all .40 cal ammo is called .40 cal S&W ammo due to US Patents that S&W owns on the .40 cal ammo.

I have 2 Springfield Armory .40 cal S&W handguns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250848


AAhhhhh....OK, ok. I get it now, lol! Thanks.
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753

The best assault rifle ever made and the bullets are easy to get. You can trudge that thing through the mud, freeze it, soak it, and it'll still do the job. I don't have a AK but I do have an AR-15 and I love the .223 ammo!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194147


Hell yeah. I thought about getting an AR-15, but I can pick up an AK for 1/2 to 1/3 the price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753

You can build a AR-15 now for 500 all day long.

The AK though is and will always be the best and most reliable assault weapon ever developed.Pretty dam good for a gun made in 1947.
I have the Saiga 12,.223,308 and 7.62x39 (all p grips on them) they are real russian recievers.
 Quoting: Fubar 980749


We must be brothers as we own the exact same rifles in AK variant :--))
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Just for the record, everyone should buy an AK47. Cheap gun, cheap ammo, highly reliable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042753


TOTALLY AGREE!

Also...buy a Draco AK-47 - it is the legal pistol version of the AK-47. Nothing beats a pistol with a 40 round magazine :--))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250848

I have a Krink pistol.They are cool for the fun factor but i would rather have a full stocked AK any day.
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All Guns should be banned! All of them. The feds should take as many as they can from the general Populace and make it a felony carrying decades of Jail-time if caught with one.


The constitution is out of date concerning this matter.....

The American Population is no longer smart enough, responsible enough, and also is lacking good character. They cant be trusted anymore.

You ever just look around you? At the people who are American Citizens?? You want "these people" to have the right to own a fucking GUN??????????????????

yeah, I know, mr big tough guy , you are packing too....thats what keep people from attacking you....

..................................right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1085031

Move to Canada you libtard!
The only reason you have the ability to post your opinions is because of people like us. People that will pick up their guns, pack their bags, and leave their family to protect ignorant people like you. With the hope that someday your gene pool will be diverse enough to produce an intelligent offspring.
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