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Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?

 
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Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Why? And what is the doctrine of Lucifer anyway?
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Why don't you ask a FREEMASON??? OR, read the writings of Albert Pike: he tells a lot about what they believe and why (Pike was a high-level Mason).
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Why don't you ask a FREEMASON???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258041


That's what I do. I am asking Freemasons what the doctrine of Lucifer is and why they believe in it.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Lucifer doesn't exist, the doctrine is just the opposite of Christianity in a way, you save yourself rather than hoping someone will do it for you, you take responsibility for your actions and not blame negative impulses on the devil.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Meh....Lucifer, Schmucifer ...
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Here's a good introductory glimpse into the true nature of Lucifer and his works (I am not a crazy bible-thumper, I am a student of Spiritual Science):

[link to fakeapoc.tripod.com]
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Here's a good introductory glimpse into the true nature of Lucifer and his works (I am not a crazy bible-thumper, I am a student of Spiritual Science):

[link to fakeapoc.tripod.com]
 Quoting: Faravahar


Interesting! But Enki and Ea are not mentioned. Freemasons love Enki/Ea.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Secrets wrapped in secrets inside of secrets. Masons are the biggest dupes on the planet.

Masons are basically a spying arm of the British Bankster Cabal. For free. Secrets is the basic appeal to human nature.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Masons have the best conspiracies attached to them! If it wasn't for them, this site would suck.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Here's a good introductory glimpse into the true nature of Lucifer and his works (I am not a crazy bible-thumper, I am a student of Spiritual Science):

[link to fakeapoc.tripod.com]
 Quoting: Faravahar


Interesting! But Enki and Ea are not mentioned. Freemasons love Enki/Ea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 993513


I don't know much about those entities, but I do know that most Freemasons are complete idiots. The majority of them don't know shit about occultism, they just love the ego-power involved in being a part of one of these "elite" black magic clubs.

It like talking to a special ops agent in the military about the happenings of the NWO. He thinks he's "in on it", but he's really just a dumb pawn.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
the dectrine of Lucifer... why?

Italian
[edit] Noun

deca f (plural deche)

decade
(obsolete) A 10,000 lire banknote
[link to en.wiktionary.org]
cifers are numbers
lu-yi or ludji -- crazy and more crazy

[ [link to en.wiktionary.org] ][/tube]
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You're giving the Netherlands a bad name...
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
I believe it is Luciferianism. I believe it is dark, it is a bloodline dating back maybe prior to egyptians. Based on Venus. Maybe this bloodline once occupied Venus...I don't know. It is the dark cabal, the dark illuminati...which by the way is an oxymoron.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
They believe Lucifer was misunderstood and is actually the liberator of man who was imprisoned on planet earth by god with no technology. This relates to the storey of Adam and Eve where Eve was offered an apple by that old snake (Lucifer) that was forbidden by God because it gave knowledge to man and therefore technology. This is what the Apple Logo represents and Macs with a chunk missing. They believe God was unforgiving and created man for his pleasure and Lucifer was the good guy who turned against this cruel God. I don't believe this it's just what I have read.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
You're giving the Netherlands a bad name...
 Quoting: Faravahar

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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Here's a good introductory glimpse into the true nature of Lucifer and his works (I am not a crazy bible-thumper, I am a student of Spiritual Science):

[link to fakeapoc.tripod.com]
 Quoting: Faravahar


Interesting! But Enki and Ea are not mentioned. Freemasons love Enki/Ea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 993513


I don't know much about those entities, but I do know that most Freemasons are complete idiots. The majority of them don't know shit about occultism, they just love the ego-power involved in being a part of one of these "elite" black magic clubs.

It like talking to a special ops agent in the military about the happenings of the NWO. He thinks he's "in on it", but he's really just a dumb pawn.
 Quoting: Faravahar


Not like us, we're "free"! I'm glad you're on our team.
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Freemasons are just the dumb helpers for imposing the Chabad-Lucifer Noahide Laws on humanity (including Freemasons of course).
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Why? And what is the doctrine of Lucifer anyway?
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Read some more,and we talk further about your lovely thread..

Last Edited by Fabian on 02/07/2011 07:43 PM
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But powerless to use this blessing for love themselves..
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Lucifer doesn't exist, the doctrine is just the opposite of Christianity in a way, you save yourself rather than hoping someone will do it for you, you take responsibility for your actions and not blame negative impulses on the devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221221



Ding, ding, ding....


and oh how wonderful you will feel when you have finally reached the goal and it was all because of what you did and not what someone did for you.

also its good for us that you have learned to manage yourselves because we are tired of being called evil for correcting mistakes.


give a man a fish
he eats for a day
teach a man to fish
he eats for a lifetime

this is a summary of this worlds purpose...
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Here's a good introductory glimpse into the true nature of Lucifer and his works (I am not a crazy bible-thumper, I am a student of Spiritual Science):

[link to fakeapoc.tripod.com]
 Quoting: Faravahar


Interesting! But Enki and Ea are not mentioned. Freemasons love Enki/Ea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 993513


I don't know much about those entities, but I do know that most Freemasons are complete idiots. The majority of them don't know shit about occultism, they just love the ego-power involved in being a part of one of these "elite" black magic clubs.

It like talking to a special ops agent in the military about the happenings of the NWO. He thinks he's "in on it", but he's really just a dumb pawn.
 Quoting: Faravahar


Not like us, we're "free"! I'm glad you're on our team.
 Quoting: Dead Sunlight


All men posess free will. If you want to sit around and stick sharpies up your ass because someone has more money and guns than you, that's your choice.

It is our responsibility as human beings to do all that we can on behalf of what we perceive to be the greatest possible good.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
The name lucifer means enlightened or enlightenment. lucifer before being cast down was "enlightened" soon we adopted satan as his new name.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Age of Aquarius, Luciferian NWO, Olam HaBah.

Chabad-Lucifer Noahide Laws for humanity.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
I wonder what the "Agentur" is. It's a German word.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Lucifer doesn't exist, the doctrine is just the opposite of Christianity in a way, you save yourself rather than hoping someone will do it for you, you take responsibility for your actions and not blame negative impulses on the devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221221



Ding, ding, ding....


and oh how wonderful you will feel when you have finally reached the goal and it was all because of what you did and not what someone did for you.

also its good for us that you have learned to manage yourselves because we are tired of being called evil for correcting mistakes.


give a man a fish
he eats for a day
teach a man to fish
he eats for a lifetime

this is a summary of this worlds purpose...
 Quoting: theODDISEE


The former poster here is greatly mistaken in several respects.
1. Lucifer DOES exist as a very real spiritual entity.
2. The "doctrine" you describe is actually closer to what Jesus taught than anything correctly attributed to Lucifer.

The latter poster elaborates on the rather Christian themes introduced in the former post, but also seems to wrongly attribute these themes to Lucifer.

Such are the works of one so adept in the ways of deception.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
as to do with the Ouiji board and contacting the fallen angels - luciferianism. The Templars claimed to be Catholic but were secret luciferians. Today as Jesuits they run the Vatican, and as Freemasonry they run everything else.

Look at Manly Hall's Secret teachings book. Has the rtual to conjure up spirits right in it. There's a whole chapter about it.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
Lucifer doesn't exist, the doctrine is just the opposite of Christianity in a way, you save yourself rather than hoping someone will do it for you, you take responsibility for your actions and not blame negative impulses on the devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221221



Ding, ding, ding....


and oh how wonderful you will feel when you have finally reached the goal and it was all because of what you did and not what someone did for you.

also its good for us that you have learned to manage yourselves because we are tired of being called evil for correcting mistakes.


give a man a fish
he eats for a day
teach a man to fish
he eats for a lifetime

this is a summary of this worlds purpose...
 Quoting: theODDISEE

at di einde the ego posseses
only 3 are there 'man' alive
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
I wonder what the "Agentur" is. It's a German word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 993513


In the "original Russian" Protocols of the Elders of Lucifer of 1903, the German word "Agentur" is also used.

Does this mean the real Protocols of the Elders of Lucifer were written in German?
The Illuminati were founded in Bavaria, and Albert Pike also wrote about the "Agentur" of the Illuminati.
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Re: Freemasons believe in the doctrine of Lucifer... why?
the rest went to feed 'em
oh the humanities ..the egos are not there for them ..didnt have a chance to develope -- it had to be a timeloope





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