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Comet Elinin Will Cause Pole Shift March 15th -Is THIS What The A.J Show Caller Was Talking About?

 
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i also saw this and i understood him to say "two up to three degrees in shift of the earths axis"...... but there is additional information
 Quoting: Frankenstein

If that's what he said, then he's wrong. Direct observation has already established that the axis is right where it should be to within about an arcsecond.
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Here is the actual newscast ... He said '3 inches' off of it's access. My bad -- I heard inches and remembered degrees. Thanks, astronut! :-)

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Personally, I'm more worried about the degrading of the magentosphere just in time for the solar max. That's doomy enough for me.

Any shills, or experts want to clear that up for me?
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah


Again, I am the expert. I am star fleet ground crew and my organization is a partnership with those on high. Mods here have made a mess of my profile etc, so google as suggested in my signature file.


The magnetosphere will go down as part of the magnetic reversal temporarily. It is not bad that it is degrading anyway, as it thus lets in the new energies that remodel this plane. it is not necessary at all in fact. It is a prison fence that keeps lower life spirit forms ON the planet, and also the heliosphere is a prison fence for the solar system, same idea. it will come down too in time as the ascension proceeds


It is the firmament that came down during some galactic war that is protective to the planet, regards the radiation. It is being rebuilt and fleet is using some of that shit in the chemtrails to help the process, drawing it into the very high atmosphere to hold the water vapor. If they were NOT using some of that shit in the chemtrails, we would always be in a visible layer of dust. The taking down of the firmament, caused those 40 days of rain and our oceans got bigger. Putting it back up will uncover some land also.

It is also not the ozone that we need either, that is the result of the industrial age. the firmament will protect us. Solar max is NOT here yet, because star fleet has not allowed it. The sun as it responds and must release to the energies coming in, is "vented" to the back side not to earth. Actually it is responding, in a sense the increase is vented so it does not hit us, except as we need protons. If the protons are falling low we are allowed some coronal holes and CME's.

God is giving the last available time in this regard to the people of this planet to come back into the light. it cannot go much longer. They have sone a few short periods of stasis of a day or so to cleanse here some and work on cleansing of pollutants out of site at night too.


There is absolutely are marvelous plan so there is minimal suffering as the earth must go thru this, and the thugs will not release the plan, they keep up the fear No comet is going to cause a FLIP in march. If that is even possible it will be deterred. A flip is NOT what we need. Too drastic! The forces from Heaven are here, have been heavily since 1954, but a few craft were sent before then to prevent the 18 degree impending axis shift at the time. An axis shift caused a new equator, and is pretty drastic. Man has been thus "saved" in that regard to be here NOW. They wanted this internet up, it IS the gift of Christ Michael to this world.
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There are 4 types of "pole shift". An actual AXIS Shift, which produces a new equator, the axis is relocated. A magnetic pole reversal, after which the sun comes up in the west, a roll over, which is an actual FLIP, and now I can't remember the 4th this morning. the magnetic north always wobbles, and more so in these times, which does confuse compasses I am told.
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look out for the AXIS shift.

wink

UK on the Equator?

ohyeah

(now all you have to do is survive the mile high tsunami!)

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Isn't this the one that's only the size of a small car? If so, what's the big fucking deal, unless it hits somewhere on your block!

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No you retard, this one is big enough to bring with it a debris cloud that will cause havoc.
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it must have been a large enough diff for needed corrections at tampa airport...
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The magnetic poles and the axis of rotation of the Earth (aka geographical poles) are different. The small shift was in the geographical axis. The magnetic poles are moving all the time, that's why they need to correct the references in airports and maps from time to time if needed.
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You really need do do your research before you state such Stupid claims!
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next... explain how the axis of the earth shifted up to 3 degrees last year? Oh, you can't?
 Quoting: Frankenstein

It didn't. I corrected you on this fact yesterday, you ignored it. Please learn the difference between a milliarcsecond and a degree.
Thread: There is no physical "pole shift." (Update: There is still no physical "pole shift.")
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OK so I know that Michio Kaku is supposedly a shill... but didn't he say 3 degrees in that one news/tv interview?
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I doubt it, but frankly it doesn't matter to me because I know for a fact it didn't shift by any detectable amount, let alone 3 degrees (which would have put the NCP out of the field of view entirely several times over). The correct amount is about 2-3 milliarcseconds, which is less than a millionth of a degree.
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You're a liar astro...
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look out for the AXIS shift.

wink

UK on the Equator?

ohyeah

(now all you have to do is survive the mile high tsunami!)

lol
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Thread: So... since the March 15 2011 pole shift was confirmed by the feds... (Page 2)
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It didn't. I corrected you on this fact yesterday, you ignored it. Please learn the difference between a milliarcsecond and a degree.
Thread: There is no physical "pole shift." (Update: There is still no physical "pole shift.")
 Quoting: Astronut



OK so I know that Michio Kaku is supposedly a shill... but didn't he say 3 degrees in that one news/tv interview?
 Quoting: tandym

I doubt it, but frankly it doesn't matter to me because I know for a fact it didn't shift by any detectable amount, let alone 3 degrees (which would have put the NCP out of the field of view entirely several times over). The correct amount is about 2-3 milliarcseconds, which is less than a millionth of a degree.
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You're a liar astro...
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Wow, when all else fails, just accuse the other side of lying. Well, I'm not lying and I have the evidence to back it up.
Thread: There is no physical "pole shift." (Update: There is still no physical "pole shift.")
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...furthmore

The shills would have us focus on david and then interject falsehoods from various phantom/false sources to confuse the readers; if david is thought a hoax then whatever the woman said must be false also. We may never prove if the woman's message was false or truth.... use discretion. However, Her message fits in or rhymes with a chorus of related informational data points that together creates a body of circumstantial evidence that is becoming more and more compelling... We take this into account based on the preponderance of evidence out there not based on a single source of evidence. And frankly, I go further and state based on my reading and understanding, regardless of what the woman said, the evidence is already overwhelming 1). something external is headed our way that will cause sever solar, geophysical and weather related disasters 2). gov knows and has known for years 3). gov is expending considerable resources to hide what they know from the public 4). the gov has been preparing itself to survive these events 5). the public is on their own.

Now to you shills, haters, and nay sayers, i don't give two flying fucks if you agree with me or not... I DONT FUCKING CARE. .. wisdom listens when knowledge speaks and i have had my ear to the ground longer than some of you have been alive..i know... "old guy"... perhaps to some of you. To those who get it, why are we trying to convince people?... its a waist of time. If someone hasn't come to the realization by now considering all the available info, they are not going to get it. Some people are open to truth and some people regardless of the evidence, never get it... they're not able to get it, don't want to get it, or they're gov zombies protecting TPTB.
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You sound like me, brother. Been at it, too, for a long time and an 'old' guy, too (55). I finally gave up trying to convince anyone to prepare or at least be aware. But at this stage of the game? FUCK 'EM. I don't have time, nor am I inclined to waste my breath on people that, like you say, don't want to know. They've had plenty of time and the info has been trickling out for years now. Sometimes I even think that this is all part of 'the plan' to cull the numbers. And what better way to get rid of the non-thinkers than to release information in such a way that only those that are somewhat developed spiritually and intellectually, 'get it'.

No one can really say they haven't been told. In reality, the government HAS released the information. Some have been able to 'hear' it, and others can't or won't.
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...It won't even be anywhere near Earth mid-March.

Its closest approach is in October.
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This Comet 200 PN9 looks like the one that is on top of us around March 15. I imagine everyone has seen the thread on this:



The combination of both of these things seems problematic.
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Excellent! Thank you for this.

... and for the honest truth seekers among us read the following. It's not mine but i like it.

"Disinformation Tactics: The Methods Used To Keep You In The Dark"

[link to dprogram.net]

"Internet trolls, also known as “paid posters” or “paid bloggers,” are increasingly being employed by private corporations as well, often for marketing purposes. In fact, it is a rapidly growing industry.

Trolls use a wide variety of strategies, some of which are unique to the internet, here are just a few:


1) Make outrageous comments designed to distract or frustrate: An Alinsky tactic used to make people emotional, although less effective because of the impersonal nature of the web.

2) Pose as a supporter of the truth, then make comments that discredit the movement: We have seen this even on our own forums — trolls pose as supporters of the Liberty Movement, then post long, incoherent diatribes so as to appear either racist or insane.

The key to this tactic is to make references to common Liberty Movement arguments while at the same time babbling nonsense, so as to make those otherwise valid arguments seem ludicrous by association.

In extreme cases, these “Trojan Horse Trolls” have been known to make posts which incite violence — a technique obviously intended to solidify the false assertions of the notorious MIAC report and other ADL/SPLC publications which purport that constitutionalists should be feared as potential domestic terrorists.

3) Dominate Discussions: Trolls often interject themselves into productive web discussions in order to throw them off course and frustrate the people involved.

4) Prewritten Responses: Many trolls are supplied with a list or database with pre-planned talking points designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments. 9/11 “debunker” trolls are notorious for this.

5) False Association: This works hand in hand with item #2, by invoking the stereotypes established by the “Trojan Horse Troll.”

For example: calling those against the Federal Reserve “conspiracy theorists” or “lunatics”. Deliberately associating anti-globalist movements with big foot or alien enthusiasts, because of the inherent negative connotations. Using false associations to provoke biases and dissuade people from examining the evidence objectively.

6) False Moderation: Pretending to be the “voice of reason” in an argument with obvious and defined sides in an attempt to move people away from what is clearly true into a “grey area” where the truth becomes “relative.”

7) Straw Man Arguments: A very common technique. The troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if he does not, and then attacks that point of view. Or, the troll will put words in the mouth of his opposition, and then rebut those specific words. For example: “9/11 truthers say that no planes hit the WTC towers, and that it was all just computer animation. What are they, crazy?”
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 Quoting: Frankenstein
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I just watched some of her other stuff. She's got some closer doom predicted for February between the 20th - 23rd. Nothing specific, but just 'something bad'.
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I don't think she knows what she is talking about. She was the one that may have called AJ show with this false info. or a woman who heard her youtube crap and panicked.


There have been plenty of other comets that have been in aliment, and passed closer to the earth, than Elinin and it didn't cause a "pole shift".

Why does this woman think this comet will be any different?
Oh yeah, cause some alien/fallen angel told her this in a vision. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1121571


... and how the fuck would you know? Did you hear her on the AJ show? Did you listen to the information she presented? or are you making statements based on not one shred of evidence? you sound like a shill.

next... explain how the axis of the earth shifted up to 3 degrees last year? Oh, you can't? Better do your research before you open your pie hole asshat

present the facts to prove she doesn't know what she's talking about before you discredit her otherwise you are a shill and a liar. Dont like it? then go to hell...I dont give a shit
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It's obvious that you do give a shit otherwise you wouldn't have gone into full scale rant. Why don't you present some evidence to prove that it's true. Making huge claims as this require proof. It's not down to people to disprove it. Give us some proof to back up this ladies claims.

Asshat
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I just watched some of her other stuff. She's got some closer doom predicted for February between the 20th - 23rd. Nothing specific, but just 'something bad'.
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Yeah, I follow Timewave Zero too.
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Personally, I'm more worried about the degrading of the magentosphere just in time for the solar max. That's doomy enough for me.

Any shills, or experts want to clear that up for me?
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Astronaut? Someone? Bueller?
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Excellent! Thank you for this.

... and for the honest truth seekers among us read the following. It's not mine but i like it.

"Disinformation Tactics: The Methods Used To Keep You In The Dark"

[link to dprogram.net]

"Internet trolls, also known as “paid posters” or “paid bloggers,” are increasingly being employed by private corporations as well, often for marketing purposes. In fact, it is a rapidly growing industry.

Trolls use a wide variety of strategies, some of which are unique to the internet, here are just a few:


1) Make outrageous comments designed to distract or frustrate: An Alinsky tactic used to make people emotional, although less effective because of the impersonal nature of the web.

2) Pose as a supporter of the truth, then make comments that discredit the movement: We have seen this even on our own forums — trolls pose as supporters of the Liberty Movement, then post long, incoherent diatribes so as to appear either racist or insane.

The key to this tactic is to make references to common Liberty Movement arguments while at the same time babbling nonsense, so as to make those otherwise valid arguments seem ludicrous by association.

In extreme cases, these “Trojan Horse Trolls” have been known to make posts which incite violence — a technique obviously intended to solidify the false assertions of the notorious MIAC report and other ADL/SPLC publications which purport that constitutionalists should be feared as potential domestic terrorists.

3) Dominate Discussions: Trolls often interject themselves into productive web discussions in order to throw them off course and frustrate the people involved.

4) Prewritten Responses: Many trolls are supplied with a list or database with pre-planned talking points designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments. 9/11 “debunker” trolls are notorious for this.

5) False Association: This works hand in hand with item #2, by invoking the stereotypes established by the “Trojan Horse Troll.”

For example: calling those against the Federal Reserve “conspiracy theorists” or “lunatics”. Deliberately associating anti-globalist movements with big foot or alien enthusiasts, because of the inherent negative connotations. Using false associations to provoke biases and dissuade people from examining the evidence objectively.

6) False Moderation: Pretending to be the “voice of reason” in an argument with obvious and defined sides in an attempt to move people away from what is clearly true into a “grey area” where the truth becomes “relative.”

7) Straw Man Arguments: A very common technique. The troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if he does not, and then attacks that point of view. Or, the troll will put words in the mouth of his opposition, and then rebut those specific words. For example: “9/11 truthers say that no planes hit the WTC towers, and that it was all just computer animation. What are they, crazy?”
Quoting: OsirisDarkstone
 Quoting: Frankenstein

 Quoting: Base_Disclosure


Ah, the old piece of shit about anyone that disagrees must be a paid shill. The crackpots greatest card or so they think. Give us some proof and we'll seriously consider the consequences of this, but people will not jump just because some unknown lady says so. Why not write something of your own instead of just a blind, comment-less quote.

Intelligent discussion is warranted for such a serious subject don't you think?
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My position on pole shift is, that while intriguing, if it happens it's largely irrelevant.

Because we'll all be fucking DEAD.

Unless we've got six months of food, a big basement, and live 2000 feet above sea level away from fault zones and volcanoes, we're toast.
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I just watched some of her other stuff. She's got some closer doom predicted for February between the 20th - 23rd. Nothing specific, but just 'something bad'.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


Yeah, I follow Timewave Zero too.
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah



Is that what it is? Where do I find this Timewave Zero information?
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I just watched some of her other stuff. She's got some closer doom predicted for February between the 20th - 23rd. Nothing specific, but just 'something bad'.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


Yeah, I follow Timewave Zero too.
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah



Is that what it is? Where do I find this Timewave Zero information?
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


I can't say for sure that's where's she's getting her dates. But the book on Timewave Zero is The Invisible Landscape by Terence and Dennis McKenna, beyon that...google is your friend. Or perhaps the search function here on GLP.
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The one big problem with her theory is, that the comet would have to have the mass and magnetic field of a rather large planet in order to create that sort of affect.
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The one big problem with her theory is, that the comet would have to have the mass and magnetic field of a rather large planet in order to create that sort of affect.
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yea the mass isnt great enough IMO as well but it could be the electricity involed.
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In the movie Deep Impact the discoverer was named Leo and the comet was referred to as ELLE or ELE.
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The one big problem with her theory is, that the comet would have to have the mass and magnetic field of a rather large planet in order to create that sort of affect.
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How big is Comet Elinin?
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The one big problem with her theory is, that the comet would have to have the mass and magnetic field of a rather large planet in order to create that sort of affect.
 Quoting: Khalen


How big is Comet Elinin?
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a mile wide i think

nothing Bruce Willis can't handle..
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I like the way this lady speaks...cool, matter of factly,friendly, even joyfull...about a possible earthshattering event in 5 weeks time...
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why not? this place is already all but shattered, can't get much worse before it has to turn around and go back the other way.

cyclicality demands it.

the rise and fall of mankind

the rise and fall of the earth, sentient being that she is

the fall and rise of the worthy

the fall and rise of the just

the rise and fall of the elitest occultists

the rise and fall of Rome

she's intelligent enough to understand that all things have purpose, great and small

and that change is not only inevitable but desireable

no matter what

yep, she's all business that one

good for her
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i also saw this and i understood him to say "two up to three degrees in shift of the earths axis"...... but there is additional information
 Quoting: Frankenstein

If that's what he said, then he's wrong. Direct observation has already established that the axis is right where it should be to within about an arcsecond.
 Quoting: Astronut


Hey Astronut, will this fly-by of 2000 NP9 cause any issues? It looks like it's damn close on or around March 15.

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

Everyone's talking about Elenin but this one looks a LOT closer. Tell us what you think, please. Thanks.
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...

It didn't. I corrected you on this fact yesterday, you ignored it. Please learn the difference between a milliarcsecond and a degree.
Thread: There is no physical "pole shift." (Update: There is still no physical "pole shift.")
 Quoting: Astronut



OK so I know that Michio Kaku is supposedly a shill... but didn't he say 3 degrees in that one news/tv interview?
 Quoting: tandym

I doubt it, but frankly it doesn't matter to me because I know for a fact it didn't shift by any detectable amount, let alone 3 degrees (which would have put the NCP out of the field of view entirely several times over). The correct amount is about 2-3 milliarcseconds, which is less than a millionth of a degree.
 Quoting: Astronut



You're a liar astro...
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Whoa!...that's WAY outa line there, bro. I agree with your attitude toward those that refuse to wake up and see what's happening around them, but Astronut has always been on the level. You might disagree with him, but he know his shit pretty well and is no liar.
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...furthmore

The shills would have us focus on david and then interject falsehoods from various phantom/false sources to confuse the readers; if david is thought a hoax then whatever the woman said must be false also. We may never prove if the woman's message was false or truth.... use discretion. However, Her message fits in or rhymes with a chorus of related informational data points that together creates a body of circumstantial evidence that is becoming more and more compelling... We take this into account based on the preponderance of evidence out there not based on a single source of evidence. And frankly, I go further and state based on my reading and understanding, regardless of what the woman said, the evidence is already overwhelming 1). something external is headed our way that will cause sever solar, geophysical and weather related disasters 2). gov knows and has known for years 3). gov is expending considerable resources to hide what they know from the public 4). the gov has been preparing itself to survive these events 5). the public is on their own.

Now to you shills, haters, and nay sayers, i don't give two flying fucks if you agree with me or not... I DONT FUCKING CARE. .. wisdom listens when knowledge speaks and i have had my ear to the ground longer than some of you have been alive..i know... "old guy"... perhaps to some of you. To those who get it, why are we trying to convince people?... its a waist of time. If someone hasn't come to the realization by now considering all the available info, they are not going to get it. Some people are open to truth and some people regardless of the evidence, never get it... they're not able to get it, don't want to get it, or they're gov zombies protecting TPTB.
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Re: Comet Elinin Will Cause Pole Shift March 15th -Is THIS What The A.J Show Caller Was Talking About?
I just watched some of her other stuff. She's got some closer doom predicted for February between the 20th - 23rd. Nothing specific, but just 'something bad'.
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Yeah, I follow Timewave Zero too.
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Is that what it is? Where do I find this Timewave Zero information?
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