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### THE ELECTRIC COMET THEORY ### AN ENCOUNTER WITH A COMETARY TAIL.

 
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### THE ELECTRIC COMET THEORY ### AN ENCOUNTER WITH A COMETARY TAIL.
I'm going to be compiling information on Electric Comets here. Despite anyone's belief about comets, it's becoming quite obvious that they respond to electrodynamics and are not just giant icey snow balls being melted by the sun.

This will be the first post in a series of posts to educate you on the potential capabilities of electric comets.

ALL COMETS ARE ELECTRIC

Please watch the following video by Michael Goodspeed.

I have provided a transcript of his video as I feel that he puts it most eloquently.



Transcript by me.

Words by Michael Goodspeed

"


For generations astronomers have viewed comets as one of the most scientifically important phenomena in space. Comets are thought to be "Rosetta Stones" through which the early history of our solar system can be gleaned.

We've been told for many decades that comets are loose aggregates of ice and dirt that originated billions of years ago in an ancient "Oort cloud". A falsification of this model would signifiay an extraordinary jolt to the space sciences.

Without any official acknowledgement from instutional science, the standard model of comets has been falsified, and repeatedly so.

" It's a mystery to me how comets work at all. "
- Donald Brownlee, principal investigator of NASA's Stardust mission.

But a different view of comets has been far more successful at predicting comet discoveries. In this model, it is electricity that accounts for the comets behaviors that have so deeply puzzled mainstream astronomers.

As far back as the late 19th century, some astronomers and physicists speculated on the electrical nature of comets. In the early 20th century, the brilliant scientist Kristian Brikeland emulated cometary jets from a cathode in a vacuum tube.

In recent years, Wallace Thornhill, the leading proponent of the alternative cosmology called the Electric Universe, has elaborated the electric comet hypothesis -- inculding many advance predictions that have proved accurate.

In Thornhill's view, comets acquire a negative charge during their time at the farther reaches of the solar system, and experience electrical stresses usually when moving toward the more positively charged (region of the) sun.

In 2005, NASA Scientists planned to crash a copper projectile into the comet Tempel 1. 24 hours before the Impact event, Thornhill in collaboration with the website [link to www.thunderbolts.info] made the following predictions:

An electrical "flash" might precede the impact and explosion, and the explosion would be far more energetic than NASA anticipated.

The explosion would not eject the amount of water into the coma expected by astronomers. The surface would be dry.

A sculpted comet surface with sharply defined craters, valleys, mesas, and ridges (the precise opposite of what one expects of a " dirty snowball"): a rearrangement of the comet's jets due to charge distribution.

All of these predictions were confirmed, much to the astonishment of NASA and scientists around the world. The news service Wired.com asked NASA officials for comments on Thornhills predictions. NASA declined.

In comet science, it is not just a matter of a few anomalies or suprises occassionally upsetting the apple-cart. And as we will demonstrate as we continue, most of these facts on their own should be sufficient to falsify the standard model.

A perfect illustration of the crisis in comet science was recently provided by the extraordariny unanticipated "brightening" of Comet Holmes 17P.

In less than 24 hours, the comet flared up from a magnitutde of 17 to a magnitude of 2.5 - making it visible to the naked eye on Earth. Holme's coma expanded from 28,000 km until it was an incredible 7,000,000 km, making it "the largest object in the solar system."

This raises the question - unanswered by astronomers - of how a relatively miniscule comet nucleus can hold in place a highly spherical coma, up to millions of miles in diameter, against the force of the solar wind.

The astronomers who talked publicly about Holmes mostly expressed bafflement. But a majority of major science publications barely discussed the comet at all. Skyandtelescope.com called it "the weirdest new object to appear in the sky in memory."

From the Electric Universe perspective, a comet outburst is a sudden, discontinuous process of plasma discharge - a switch from "dark current" mode to "normal glow" mode. The most likely time to see a flare-up is during the passage of a sudden change in the solar wind.

In fact, this may be what happend with Comet Holmes. Two days before the comet's flare-up, on October 22 at 19:15, there was a large spike in the density of the solar wind.

The relationship between the electric Sun and electric comet was graphically illustrated when a coronal mass ejection (CME) greeted Comet Neat, imaged right. The comet responded with a "kink" that propagated down the tail.

While astronomers were quick to call this possible mutual interaction "coincidental", it was not the first time such apparent exchanges between the Sun and the comets had been recorded. In 1998, another CME was preceded immediately by the destruction of two Sun grazing comets.

The comet "suprises" stretch back over decades, and far outnumber any confirmations of the standard model. Certainly, no one who views comets as "dirty snowballs" ever imagined that they would be found to generate x-rays!

In 1996, Comet Hyakutake radiated x-rays as intense as those detected from stars. The x-rays flickered over a matter of hours like a failing fluorescent lamp. From the Electric Universe perspective, the analogy is apt: A comet is a light producing load in the circuit of an electrically powered Sun.

X-rays were also detected from the Comet Linear as it experienced its strange, explosive demise. As linear approached perihelion, it suddenly brightened more than 50 percent in 4 hours. It threw off large quantities of dust - much more than the expected WATER of a "dirty snowball"!

In fact, there have been many unexplained "explosions" of comets, sometimes at great distances from the Sun. In 1976, Comet West suddenly split into four fragments, although it never approached closer than 30 million kilometers from the Sun.

And then there was the astonishing disintegration of Comet Schwassman-Wachmann 3. Some proposed that the comet disintegrated due to "thermal stress" - inconceivable even if one ignores the deep freeze of the vacuum through which the comet was moving, with its sunward face continually changing due to rotation.

Other explanations included "the outburst of trapped volatile gases. " and the suggestion that the comet flew apart from the "rapid rotation of the nucleus. " One astronomer even prposed that the comet "was shattered by a hit from a small interplanetary boulder."

Astronomers must also stretch credulity in their attempts to explain the supersonic jets of material seen exploding from the comet nucleus.

In the case of
Comet Wild 2, some of its nearly two dozen jets emanated from the dark, UNHEATED side of the comet. And as seems to be the case with most come jets, they remained intact across great distances - they did not disperse in the fashion of a gas in a vacuum.

The Comet Hale-Bopp began discharging (seven jets) while it was still too far from the Sun for a "snowball" to "melt". Four years after Hale-Bopp left the inner solar system, it was still active. It displayed a coma, a fan-shaped dust tail, and an ion tail -- even though it was farther from the Sun than Jupiter, Saturn or even Uranus.

On the question of what comets are made of and from where they came, the evidence simply does not support the notion(s) either of an ancient "Oort cloud", nor of comets as "dirty snowballs". They appear to be burnt rocks, physically little different from asteroids.

When the Stardust craft tested dusty particles from Comet Wild 2, it found minerals that can only form at superhot temperatures of THOUSANDS OF DEGREES. Since this discovery, astronomers have sought desperately to adjust comet theory - but only in an 'acceptable' manner (i.e. theories that continue to exclude electricity, and a "catastrophic" view of recent solar system history.)

Another "unsolved mystery" is presented by the main-belt comets -- according to mainstream theorists, these alleged "dirty snowballs" have existed in close proximity to the sun for BILLIONS of years!! But why have they not "melted"?

The best guess of astronomers is that these comets are somehow protected by "dirt coatings". Such wild implausibilities would be unnecessary if astronomers were simply willing to allow the evidence to speak for itself.

Indeed, in a court of law, the evidential case for the electric comet would easily defeat the wishful thinking of "dirty snowball" proponents. But in this era of "science by press release", objective evidence is often overpowered by political maneuverings.

While the Space Age has produced many stupendous feats, the cost of misdirection in the theoretical sciences has proved catastrophic - both financially and in terms of human knowledge and progress.

Scientists continue to spend billions of taxpayer dollars chasing "black holes" and other chimeras - and the public remains unaware that another, better cosmology is being willfully ignored. The time has come for the truth to prevail over political self-interests and intellectual prejudice.

"Rather than love, than money, than fame give me truth. " - Henry Thoreau


Michael Goodspeed.


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I will be highlighting more important information regarding past comet events, their prominence in ancient texts, and the potential effects we could see from Comet Elenin.

Stay tuned!

Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 08/12/2011 04:43 PM
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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What can Electric Comets Do?

We're going to start with a very popular example.

The Chicago Fires of 1871.

I'm going to be quoting from the article off of Thunderbolts.info

[link to thunderbolts.info]

Sunday evening, October 8, 1871 marked the beginning of one of the most devastating fires in U.S. history. Legend has it that “The Great Chicago Fire” resulted from an agitated cow kicking over a lantern in “Mrs O’Leary’s barn”. The dry leaves and parched wood of Illinois in early autumn were the perfect kindling for a wildfire, and the fire spread with extraordinary rapidity, consuming homes and buildings, leaping from rooftop to rooftop with the speed of a locomotive. Between October 8 and 10, an estimated 350 people perished. The fire destroyed the homes of up to one-third of the city's population, about 1,600 stores, 60 factories, and 28 public buildings. Four square miles of the city burned to the ground.

Contrary to popular folklore, the Chicago fire is not the worst in U.S. history. It was not even the worst to occur on October 8 that year. The same evening—in fact, at the same time, about 9:30—a fierce wildfire struck in Peshtigo, Wisconsin, over 200 miles to the north of Chicago, destroying the town and a dozen other villages. Estimates of those killed range upward from 1200 to 2500 in a single night. It was not the Chicago fire but the simultaneous “Peshtigo Fire” that was the deadliest in U.S. history.

And there is more. On the same evening, across Lake Michigan, another fire also wreaked havoc. Though smaller fires had been burning for some time—not unusual under the reported conditions—the most intense outburst appears to have erupted simultaneously with the Chicago and Peshtigo fires. The blaze is said to have then burned for over a month, consuming over 2,000,000 acres and killing at least 200.
 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


You might be asking what does the Chicago fire have to do with Comets?

Perhaps everything..

Allow me to introduce you to Comet Biela.

The comet was named after Austrian officer W. von Biela, who observed the body in February 1826. By following the path of Biela, the French astronomer Marie-Charles-Théodore de Damoiseau estimated the time of its return. He said the comet would cross the orbit of the Earth about one month ahead of our planet’s arrival at the same spot.

Donnelly does not mention that ten days after Biela’s announcement, a French astronomer John Felix Adolphe Gambart also sighted the comet. Both Biela and Gambert calculated the orbit, recognizing that earlier comet apparitions in 1772 and 1805 were the same object that appeared in 1826. And Gambert, along with other astronomers, predicted that the comet would strike the earth on its return, which he projected for October 29, 1832.

Damoiseau’s prediction was correct. Earth missed the comet by about a month.

On its anticipated 1846 return, Biela was first sighted in late 1845 as it moved toward perihelion (its closest approach to the Sun), astronomers were surprised to see that the head of the comet had acquired a faint satellite. It had split in two

splitdrawing

(picture above)

,something we now know to be fairly common for comets, but still mysterious to cometologists. In 1845, the event seemed unprecedented. As noted by Carl Sagan and Nancy Druyan in their book Comet, “the finding was so bizarre that the first astronomer to note this twinning dismissed it as some internal reflection in his telescope”.

In Robert Chapman’s and John Brandt’s The Comet Book certain details of Biela’s return are fascinating. The discovery of a partner occurred on January 13, 1846, when “a faint satellite comet was observed a small distance from the main comet”. Two tails were seen parallel to each other. “Over the next month the fainter of the two comets increased in brightness and finally became brighter than the ‘main’ comet. The situation then reversed and the main comet became the brighter one again. In addition, the main comet grew a second tail and a luminous bridge of material joined the two comets”. At this time the two nuclei were apart an estimated 250,000 kilometers, about two thirds of the distance separating Earth and the Moon.

Amazingly, and with the aid of a startling and unpredicted meteor shower on November 27, 1872, Professor W. Klinkerfues of Berlin, calculated the trajectories of the meteoric falls, concluding that they were the remains of the comet. This, in turn led him to send instructions to Norman Pogson, Government Astronomer at the Madras Observatory in India (far enough south to allow a good view). Pogson’s answer to Klinkerfues, dated December 6, said he “found Biela immediately” on the first clearing of the sky, and on the second day he saw it again. It showed no tail, he said.

As Chapman and Brandt put it, this was either an “incredible coincidence”, or it was the actual last view of the comet.

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


We now see the remains of this comet as the annual meteor shower called the Andromedids and it is well known even among scientists that this is the remains of comet Biela.

I hope you're starting to get where I'm going with this. Let's explore how this annual meteor shower first affected our planet.

It remains to be asked, then, whether the fragmentation of Biela, a comet on a path intersecting the orbit of the Earth, and predicted by some astronomers to collide with the Earth in 1832, might have been the source of the “great conflagration” in 1871. The comet had split at least 25 years earlier (the 1846 appearance), and the two partners had separated by more than 2 million kilometers by 1852. So whether or not Klinkerfues observed Biela after the spectacular shower of November 1872, we know he did not report seeing two bodies. Hence, at least one of the partners intersecting Earth’s path had presumably already disintegrated entirely, leaving the possibility that on a subsequent orbit the Earth moved into debris left by the body.

...

But of all the scientific details about comet Biela, perhaps none stands out more dramatically than the fact almost never mentioned—a jet forming between the two nuclear fragments when they were 2 million kilometers apart. In the purely gravitational and mechanical terms that astronomers have sought to apply to comets, this jet is inconceivable. But when we remember how inconsequential is gravity in the presence of the electric force, the improbability disappears.

In fact, the jet is a clue more vital by far than the popular “scientific” commentary on Donnelly’s hypothesis. By directing our attention to the electrical nature of comets, it also invites us to look again at the historic testimony, with an eye to details long unnoticed or forgotten.

..

On the evening of October 8, 1871 devastating fires erupted at virtually the same moment in three different states in the region of the Great Lakes—Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan. The outbursts included the notorious “Chicago fire”, but also an even more devastating fire in Wisconsin, the worst in U.S. history, covering some 400 square miles. At the same time, wildfires also erupted across much of Michigan. In his book Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel, published in 1883, Ignatius Donnelly proposed that the simultaneous outbursts were no coincidence; they were the effect of our Earth meeting up with a fragment, or fragments, of comet Biela, a body that had disintegrated a few years earlier while on an Earth-threatening path.

As Donnelly reports it, in the Wisconsin fire near Lake Michigan, a large area including the town of Peshtigo and several neighboring cities was "swept bare by an absolute whirlwind of flame”. His review of the event, based on eyewitness accounts, was taken primarily from the book "History of the Great Conflagration", by James W. Sheahan and George P. Upton (1871). It includes the following report:

"At sundown there was a lull in the wind and comparative stillness. For two hours there were no signs of danger; but at a few minutes after nine o'clock, and by a singular coincidence, precisely the time at which the Chicago fire commenced, the people of the village heard a terrible roar. It was that of a tornado, crushing through the forests. Instantly the heavens were illuminated with a terrible glare. The sky, which had been so dark a moment before, burst into clouds of flame. A spectator of the terrible scene says the fire did not come upon them gradually from burning trees and other objects to the windward, but the first notice they had of it was a whirlwind of flame in great clouds from above the tops of the trees, which fell upon and entirely enveloped everything”.


 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


"For many of the witnesses it seemed as if the biblical "last days" had come. Though well accustomed to wildfires, they had seen nothing like this before. "They could give no other interpretation to this ominous roar, this bursting of the sky with flame, and this dropping down of fire out of the very heavens, consuming instantly everything it touched".

It came in great sheeted flames from heaven', says another. 'There was a pitiless rain of fire and SAND. The atmosphere was all afire'. Some speak of 'great balls of fire unrolling and shooting forth, in streams’. The fire leaped over roofs and trees, and ignited whole streets at once".


...

A writer in the New York "Evening Post" says he saw "buildings far beyond the line of fire, and in no contact with it, burst into flames from the interior”.

To these references, Donnelly adds a quote from The Annual Record of Science and Industry" for 1876, page 84:

"The flames that consumed a great part of Chicago were of an unusual character and produced extraordinary effects. They absolutely melted the hardest building-stone, which had previously been considered fire-proof. Iron, glass, granite, were fused and run together into grotesque conglomerates, as if they had been put through a blast-furnace. No kind of material could stand its breath for a moment."

Another quote from Sheahan & Upton's Work:

"The huge stone and brick structures melted before the fierceness of the flames as a snow-flake melts and disappears in water, and almost as quickly. Six-story buildings would take fire and disappear for ever from sight in five minutes by the watch. . . . The fire also doubled on its track at the great Union Depot and burned half a mile southward in the very teeth of the gale--a gale which blew a perfect tornado, and in which no vessel could have lived on the lake. . . . Strange, fantastic fires of blue, red, and green played along the cornices of buildings".

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


These are the eyewitness reports of what occured during a simultaneous meteor shower noted by astronomers elsewhere.

Stay tuned!

Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 02/20/2011 01:16 PM
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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Wallace Thornhill breaks down the Electric Comet

The following information will be quoted off of [link to www.holoscience.com] which is Wallace Thornhills website.

The electric comet.

On October 24th, periodic Comet Holmes (17P) brightened by nearly a million times overnight. For no apparent reason, it erupted from a very dim magnitude 17 to about magnitude 2.5 and its coma expanded to 2 million km diameter. Formerly, the Sun was the largest object in the Solar System. Briefly, Comet 17P/Holmes held that distinction.

cometcomparison

Image of comet Holmes from the 3.6-meter Canada-France-Hawaii telescope on Mauna Kea showing the 1.4 million km diameter coma approximately 5 months after perihelion (the point in an orbit that is closest to the Sun). The white ''star'' near the center of the coma is in fact the dust-shrouded nucleus. (Right) the Sun and planet Saturn shown at the same scale for comparison. (Sun and Saturn images courtesy of ESA/NASA's SOHO and Voyager projects). Credit: D. Jewitt and R. Stevenson,
Institute for Astronomy, University of Hawaii.

Comets will remain an enigma to astronomers as long as they insist that the star-size comas can be controlled in the solar 'wind' by the gravity of a tiny nucleus and that the energetic performances can be explained by solar heating. Comets are highly charged bodies moving radially in the electrical domain of the Sun. The comas and ion tails are an electrical phenomenon. And the dust is finely divided because it has been electrically 'sputtered' from the nucleus.

 Quoting: Holoscience.com


Let's take a little side step here and post some other relevant information.

Electric current from the Sun powers auroras.

On March 23, 2007 an auroral substorm erupted over Alaska and Canada, producing vivid auroras for more than two hours. Substorms are sudden bursts of energy in Earth's atmosphere that turn the undulating curtains of the Northern Lights into hyperactive light shows lasting from minutes to hours. Estimates of the total energy of the two-hour event were put at five hundred thousand billion (5 x 1014) Joules. That's approximately equivalent to the energy of a magnitude 5.5 earthquake.

Where does all that energy come from? THEMIS may have found an answer: "The satellites have found evidence for magnetic ropes connecting Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the Sun," says Dave Sibeck, project scientist for the mission at the Goddard Space Flight Center. "We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras."

This report was written within days of the 140th anniversary of the birth of the Norwegian-born physicist Kristian Birkeland. Birkeland correctly hypothesized and demonstrated experimentally in the early 20th century that electric current from the Sun powers the earth's auroras. The 'magnetic ropes' connecting the Sun and the Earth are more correctly named after him- 'Birkeland currents.' The solar wind is not a mechanical 'wind' of particles, it is an electric current from the Sun that takes the form of twisted filament pairs and plasma sheets.

"We have much more to learn about all these things," says Angelopoulos. "I can't wait to see what comes next." Reading Birkeland's century-old works would be a good start for NASA scientists. Terry Pratchett's wry remark applies to science, "Most of what you get taught is lies. It has to be. Sometimes if you get the truth all at once, you can't understand it."

"It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds."
— Kristian Birkeland
 Quoting: Holoscience.com


So the same energy responsible for causing auroras on planets within the whole solar system, will be responsible for any resulting affect we get from Comet Elenin.

I think it also affects more than just the weather, it possibly affects conciousness if fields are involved.. just ask anyone involved in astrology.


So what's the point of all this? Where Am I going? Allow me to give a summary of where a comet comes from..

From an Electric Universe point of view, a comet's tail arises from the INTERACTION between the electric charge of the comet and the solar discharge plasma. The comet spends most of its time far from the Sun, where the plasma charge density is low. The comet moves slowly and its charge easily comes into balance with that region. On the other hand, as the comet approaches the Sun, the nucleus moves at a furious speed through regions of increasing charge density and varying electrical characteristics. The comet's surface charge and internal polarization, developed in deep space, responds to the new environment by forming cathode jets and a visible plasma sheath, or coma. The jets flare up and move over the nucleus irregularly, and the comet may shed and grow anew several tails. Or the comet may explode like an overstressed capacitor, breaking into separate fragments or simply giving up the ghost and disappearing.

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


The following are pictures STRAIGHT FROM NASA JPL Small Body Browser. This is the currently estimated trajectory for Comet Elenin

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]


[March 15th has come and gone]

Despite MISINFORMATION, the date you have to worry about is not March 15th 2011 and I will explain why.

cometabove

This picture is from the NASA JPL Small Body Browser from the link I gave you above. Note the Date March 15th, 2011. The distance is 2.099 Astronical Units (distance between earth and sun) As you can see from the angle I have provided, the comet is below the ecliptic (sun's equator, extending out past all the planets) indicated by the dark blue line, and quite far away from earth. This will have little impact on us directly, maybe indirectly via magnetic disturbances because any foreign electric field will disturb the solar system.

At it's point of closest approach to EARTH, it will be 0.24 AU from us. That's 1/4 the distance between us and the sun.

Here is a picture of its closest point.

cometapproach

As you can see by the light blue line, that means that the comet has PASSED above the ecliptic. But it hasn't gone very far. If you look at the comet's path in 3D it's very shallow, just above the surface of the ecliptic.
At this point the cometary tail won't be pointing at us, because it is pointing directly away from the sun. If you draw a line from the sun - to the comet, that is the direction the tail is going. As you can see it's not pointing at us.

But when will it?

On September 26th, 2011 (according to this calculation at 1:06 AM on 2/9/2011) the cometary tail will be bathing us in all its glory, and maybe even the coma too if it does anything like comet 17/P Holmes did.

pointingatus

This is the same angle that you had for the March 15th picture.

As you can see here in this picture the path of the comet is indicated by the blue lines. When the line changes color that is when it has gone ABOVE the ecliptic. As you can see from this date that it hasn't been above the ecliptic long, giving it a very good angle toward earth. We will be looking DOWN THE BARREL of the cometary tail on this day.

What will occur? I can't say. I can't say we have had a comet like this EVER come this close in recorded history, and be pointing its barrel right at us. The moon being in between us and the cometary tail is another factor to consider.

Due to stress the comet could fracture into multiple pieces also.

It's been set in motion for a very very long time though.. and I don't think there is anything we can do about it right now.

Stay tuned!

Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 06/01/2011 12:40 PM
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(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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I'm guessing this is leading up to a pole shift prediction like the other thread, or at least some kind of terrestrial catastrophe. Is that a straightforward prediction of the electric comet theory? In other words, if it doesn't happen, would that be a falsification of the electric model?
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I'm guessing this is leading up to a pole shift prediction like the other thread, or at least some kind of terrestrial catastrophe. Is that a straightforward prediction of the electric comet theory? In other words, if it doesn't happen, would that be a falsification of the electric model?
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This is not a pole shift prediction. This is going to describe to you past events involving comets and present catastrophe potential.

According to Wallace Thornhill, all comets are electric and long period comets obtain the charge of interstellar space when they leave the sun.

I'm hypothesizing (note my word usage please) that a long period comet such as Comet Elenin who has a period of 38,000 YEARS is going to produce events that we have not seen EVER in recent man kind. We could be feeling the effects of it RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A DIRECT TEST OF THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE HYPOTHESIS. I realize this and I'm betting on it. If comets are electric, expect things coming from this that NASA will not be close to predicting.

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"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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I'm guessing this is leading up to a pole shift prediction like the other thread, or at least some kind of terrestrial catastrophe. Is that a straightforward prediction of the electric comet theory? In other words, if it doesn't happen, would that be a falsification of the electric model?
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This is not a pole shift prediction. This is going to describe to you past events involving comets and present catastrophe potential.

According to Wallace Thornhill, all comets are eletric and long period comets obtain the charge of interstellar space when they leave the sun.

I'm hypothesizing (note my word usage please) that a long period comet such as Comet Elenin who has a period of 38,000 YEARS is going to produce events that we have not seen EVER in recent man kind. We could be feeling the effects of it RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A DIRECT TEST OF THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE HYPOTHESIS. I realize this and I'm betting on it. If comets are electric, expect things coming from this that NASA will not be close to predicting.
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So we're doing Popperian science here - if comets are electric, this comet will do something unusual. Which means that if nothing unusual happens with the comet, comets are not electric. Good good. I'll be interested to see what happens.
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I'm guessing this is leading up to a pole shift prediction like the other thread, or at least some kind of terrestrial catastrophe. Is that a straightforward prediction of the electric comet theory? In other words, if it doesn't happen, would that be a falsification of the electric model?
 Quoting: Marquis


This is not a pole shift prediction. This is going to describe to you past events involving comets and present catastrophe potential.

According to Wallace Thornhill, all comets are eletric and long period comets obtain the charge of interstellar space when they leave the sun.

I'm hypothesizing (note my word usage please) that a long period comet such as Comet Elenin who has a period of 38,000 YEARS is going to produce events that we have not seen EVER in recent man kind. We could be feeling the effects of it RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A DIRECT TEST OF THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE HYPOTHESIS. I realize this and I'm betting on it. If comets are electric, expect things coming from this that NASA will not be close to predicting.
 Quoting: SaveTheOceans

So we're doing Popperian science here - if comets are electric, this comet will do something unusual. Which means that if nothing unusual happens with the comet, comets are not electric. Good good. I'll be interested to see what happens.
 Quoting: Marquis


I'm going beyond that. I'm stating that comets ARE electric and that something WILL happen. I'm in the process in writing up some more information to support this me.. bear with me as information will be coming.

I will demonstrate what has happened in the past and what how that can SCALE up. The difference between an F1 Tornado and an F5.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

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"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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Well done OP.

It is more than obvious now that electrical currents flow thru the "vacuum" of space despite conventional science laughing at it. Hannes Alfven was right. Birkeland was right. Electrified plasma effects are seen everywhere telescopes look... and yet they are still blinded... by science.

Is there any wonder why I am a disillusioned old man? Science has failed us, and I trusted in it my whole life.

Bah. Scienc, like religion, is not pure. It is not true, It is not honest with itself about its flaws.
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I'm guessing this is leading up to a pole shift prediction like the other thread, or at least some kind of terrestrial catastrophe. Is that a straightforward prediction of the electric comet theory? In other words, if it doesn't happen, would that be a falsification of the electric model?
 Quoting: Marquis


This is not a pole shift prediction. This is going to describe to you past events involving comets and present catastrophe potential.

According to Wallace Thornhill, all comets are eletric and long period comets obtain the charge of interstellar space when they leave the sun.

I'm hypothesizing (note my word usage please) that a long period comet such as Comet Elenin who has a period of 38,000 YEARS is going to produce events that we have not seen EVER in recent man kind. We could be feeling the effects of it RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A DIRECT TEST OF THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE HYPOTHESIS. I realize this and I'm betting on it. If comets are electric, expect things coming from this that NASA will not be close to predicting.
 Quoting: SaveTheOceans

So we're doing Popperian science here - if comets are electric, this comet will do something unusual. Which means that if nothing unusual happens with the comet, comets are not electric. Good good. I'll be interested to see what happens.
 Quoting: Marquis


I'm going beyond that. I'm stating that comets ARE electric and that something WILL happen. I'm in the process in writing up some more information to support this me.. bear with me as information will be coming.

I will demonstrate what has happened in the past and what how that can SCALE up. The difference between an F1 Tornado and an F5.
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I thought you were hypothesizing? You put a lot of emphasis on that. "I am right, 100%, full stop" isn't a hypothesis.

Anyway, the semantics don't matter as long as you're deriving a falsifiable prediction from the electric comet theory. If the prediction fails then the theory is false, by modus tollens. I know you're confident enough that you won't have any problem accepting the conditional.
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This is not a pole shift prediction. This is going to describe to you past events involving comets and present catastrophe potential.

According to Wallace Thornhill, all comets are eletric and long period comets obtain the charge of interstellar space when they leave the sun.

I'm hypothesizing (note my word usage please) that a long period comet such as Comet Elenin who has a period of 38,000 YEARS is going to produce events that we have not seen EVER in recent man kind. We could be feeling the effects of it RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A DIRECT TEST OF THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE HYPOTHESIS. I realize this and I'm betting on it. If comets are electric, expect things coming from this that NASA will not be close to predicting.
 Quoting: SaveTheOceans

So we're doing Popperian science here - if comets are electric, this comet will do something unusual. Which means that if nothing unusual happens with the comet, comets are not electric. Good good. I'll be interested to see what happens.
 Quoting: Marquis


I'm going beyond that. I'm stating that comets ARE electric and that something WILL happen. I'm in the process in writing up some more information to support this me.. bear with me as information will be coming.

I will demonstrate what has happened in the past and what how that can SCALE up. The difference between an F1 Tornado and an F5.
 Quoting: SaveTheOceans

I thought you were hypothesizing? You put a lot of emphasis on that. "I am right, 100%, full stop" isn't a hypothesis.

Anyway, the semantics don't matter as long as you're deriving a falsifiable prediction from the electric comet theory. If the prediction fails then the theory is false, by modus tollens. I know you're confident enough that you won't have any problem accepting the conditional.
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You are correct. I am hypothesizing scientifically, but I am KNOWING within that it is electrical. It's not a question to me. It's a question to you. That is why it is a "hypothesis".

What will occur is the thing I cannot say. I don't know all the variables. We don't know how long comet Elenin's orbital period REALLY is, we don't know how long it was out there.

If comets pick up negative charge in interstellar space then the orbital period REALLY matters because it determines how much charge the comet picks up.
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(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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i'm not knocking you or anything, but what would KNOWING do to stop you getting hurt?

if even a fraction of the apocalyptic things that could happen in some of the scenarios surrounding this actually happen, i think a few of us may well end up with a grazed knee or two.
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i'm not knocking you or anything, but what would KNOWING do to stop you getting hurt?

if even a fraction of the apocalyptic things that could happen in some of the scenarios surrounding this actually happen, i think a few of us may well end up with a grazed knee or two.
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Knowing allows me to prepare mentally, and with sufficient supplies. It does not give me magical foresight. I do not know what will happen or where I will be in relation to the potential damage. I believe in a higher guidance that will see me through it, but to each their own..

I don't know exactly what to expect, but catastrophe is almost a certainly in some part.. I will elaborate shortly.. working on 2nd post right now.
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(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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No I'm not BEHIND the electric universe. I'm just an observer who has taken their information to heart and absorbed it. I'm sharing the information in a manner in which you can prepare to see if it is true or not.

This is a once in a 38,000 year event, we have front row seats. We are about to find out if Comets are really electric!

Evidence points that they are, but what will come with Comet Elenin will be undeniable proof in one way or the other! I'm betting on it being electric with reactions that doesn't account for standard dirty snowball theory!
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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i'm not knocking you or anything, but what would KNOWING do to stop you getting hurt?

if even a fraction of the apocalyptic things that could happen in some of the scenarios surrounding this actually happen, i think a few of us may well end up with a grazed knee or two.
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Stock up on food, travel away from any impact zone, especially if it hits ocean etc...
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i'm not knocking you or anything, but what would KNOWING do to stop you getting hurt?

if even a fraction of the apocalyptic things that could happen in some of the scenarios surrounding this actually happen, i think a few of us may well end up with a grazed knee or two.
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Stock up on food, travel away from any impact zone, especially if it hits ocean etc...
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I do not expect the comet to IMPACT us. More on this later. I expect us (OUR WHOLE PLANET) to pass through its IONIZED tail that always points away from the sun (toward us on its closet approach sometime in October)
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(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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Wow serendipity is a beautiful thing. I wonder what made everyone think Electric Cosmos today.

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when will it become visible?
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i'm not knocking you or anything, but what would KNOWING do to stop you getting hurt?

if even a fraction of the apocalyptic things that could happen in some of the scenarios surrounding this actually happen, i think a few of us may well end up with a grazed knee or two.
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Stock up on food, travel away from any impact zone, especially if it hits ocean etc...
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yeah, but everyone else will be up there too, on top of every mountain, with their 'preps'

it'd be bedlam.

nah, not for me. like that bird and her old man, down to the beach for a grandstand view for me I think.

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Comet = cosmic messanger
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Comet = cosmic messanger
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That's true. I have been receiving cosmic messages lately. I watched Marko Rodins videos again today and it all finally made sense. It didn't make sense 2 years ago, but it did Saturday..

I have also had renewed spiritual inspiration.
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(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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I have posted my 2nd section under the first section linked here Thread: ### THE ELECTRIC COMET THEORY ### AN ENCOUNTER WITH A COMETARY TAIL.

I have reposted below for convenience. It can be removed if necessary.

What can Electric Comets Do?

We're going to start with a very popular example.

The Chicago Fires of 1871.

I'm going to be quoting from the article off of Thunderbolts.info

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Sunday evening, October 8, 1871 marked the beginning of one of the most devastating fires in U.S. history. Legend has it that “The Great Chicago Fire” resulted from an agitated cow kicking over a lantern in “Mrs O’Leary’s barn”. The dry leaves and parched wood of Illinois in early autumn were the perfect kindling for a wildfire, and the fire spread with extraordinary rapidity, consuming homes and buildings, leaping from rooftop to rooftop with the speed of a locomotive. Between October 8 and 10, an estimated 350 people perished. The fire destroyed the homes of up to one-third of the city's population, about 1,600 stores, 60 factories, and 28 public buildings. Four square miles of the city burned to the ground.

Contrary to popular folklore, the Chicago fire is not the worst in U.S. history. It was not even the worst to occur on October 8 that year. The same evening—in fact, at the same time, about 9:30—a fierce wildfire struck in Peshtigo, Wisconsin, over 200 miles to the north of Chicago, destroying the town and a dozen other villages. Estimates of those killed range upward from 1200 to 2500 in a single night. It was not the Chicago fire but the simultaneous “Peshtigo Fire” that was the deadliest in U.S. history.

And there is more. On the same evening, across Lake Michigan, another fire also wreaked havoc. Though smaller fires had been burning for some time—not unusual under the reported conditions—the most intense outburst appears to have erupted simultaneously with the Chicago and Peshtigo fires. The blaze is said to have then burned for over a month, consuming over 2,000,000 acres and killing at least 200.
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You might be asking what does the Chicago fire have to do with Comets?

Perhaps everything..

Allow me to introduce you to Comet Biela.

The comet was named after Austrian officer W. von Biela, who observed the body in February 1826. By following the path of Biela, the French astronomer Marie-Charles-Théodore de Damoiseau estimated the time of its return. He said the comet would cross the orbit of the Earth about one month ahead of our planet’s arrival at the same spot.

Donnelly does not mention that ten days after Biela’s announcement, a French astronomer John Felix Adolphe Gambart also sighted the comet. Both Biela and Gambert calculated the orbit, recognizing that earlier comet apparitions in 1772 and 1805 were the same object that appeared in 1826. And Gambert, along with other astronomers, predicted that the comet would strike the earth on its return, which he projected for October 29, 1832.

Damoiseau’s prediction was correct. Earth missed the comet by about a month.

On its anticipated 1846 return, Biela was first sighted in late 1845 as it moved toward perihelion (its closest approach to the Sun), astronomers were surprised to see that the head of the comet had acquired a faint satellite. It had split in two

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,something we now know to be fairly common for comets, but still mysterious to cometologists. In 1845, the event seemed unprecedented. As noted by Carl Sagan and Nancy Druyan in their book Comet, “the finding was so bizarre that the first astronomer to note this twinning dismissed it as some internal reflection in his telescope”.

In Robert Chapman’s and John Brandt’s The Comet Book certain details of Biela’s return are fascinating. The discovery of a partner occurred on January 13, 1846, when “a faint satellite comet was observed a small distance from the main comet”. Two tails were seen parallel to each other. “Over the next month the fainter of the two comets increased in brightness and finally became brighter than the ‘main’ comet. The situation then reversed and the main comet became the brighter one again. In addition, the main comet grew a second tail and a luminous bridge of material joined the two comets”. At this time the two nuclei were apart an estimated 250,000 kilometers, about two thirds of the distance separating Earth and the Moon.

Amazingly, and with the aid of a startling and unpredicted meteor shower on November 27, 1872, Professor W. Klinkerfues of Berlin, calculated the trajectories of the meteoric falls, concluding that they were the remains of the comet. This, in turn led him to send instructions to Norman Pogson, Government Astronomer at the Madras Observatory in India (far enough south to allow a good view). Pogson’s answer to Klinkerfues, dated December 6, said he “found Biela immediately” on the first clearing of the sky, and on the second day he saw it again. It showed no tail, he said.

As Chapman and Brandt put it, this was either an “incredible coincidence”, or it was the actual last view of the comet.

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


We now see the remains of this comet as the annual meteor shower called the Andromedids and it is well known even among scientists that this is the remains of comet Biela.

I hope you're starting to get where I'm going with this. Let's explore how this annual meteor shower first affected our planet.

It remains to be asked, then, whether the fragmentation of Biela, a comet on a path intersecting the orbit of the Earth, and predicted by some astronomers to collide with the Earth in 1832, might have been the source of the “great conflagration” in 1871. The comet had split at least 25 years earlier (the 1846 appearance), and the two partners had separated by more than 2 million kilometers by 1852. So whether or not Klinkerfues observed Biela after the spectacular shower of November 1872, we know he did not report seeing two bodies. Hence, at least one of the partners intersecting Earth’s path had presumably already disintegrated entirely, leaving the possibility that on a subsequent orbit the Earth moved into debris left by the body.

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But of all the scientific details about comet Biela, perhaps none stands out more dramatically than the fact almost never mentioned—a jet forming between the two nuclear fragments when they were 2 million kilometers apart. In the purely gravitational and mechanical terms that astronomers have sought to apply to comets, this jet is inconceivable. But when we remember how inconsequential is gravity in the presence of the electric force, the improbability disappears.

In fact, the jet is a clue more vital by far than the popular “scientific” commentary on Donnelly’s hypothesis. By directing our attention to the electrical nature of comets, it also invites us to look again at the historic testimony, with an eye to details long unnoticed or forgotten.

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On the evening of October 8, 1871 devastating fires erupted at virtually the same moment in three different states in the region of the Great Lakes—Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan. The outbursts included the notorious “Chicago fire”, but also an even more devastating fire in Wisconsin, the worst in U.S. history, covering some 400 square miles. At the same time, wildfires also erupted across much of Michigan. In his book Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel, published in 1883, Ignatius Donnelly proposed that the simultaneous outbursts were no coincidence; they were the effect of our Earth meeting up with a fragment, or fragments, of comet Biela, a body that had disintegrated a few years earlier while on an Earth-threatening path.

As Donnelly reports it, in the Wisconsin fire near Lake Michigan, a large area including the town of Peshtigo and several neighboring cities was "swept bare by an absolute whirlwind of flame”. His review of the event, based on eyewitness accounts, was taken primarily from the book "History of the Great Conflagration", by James W. Sheahan and George P. Upton (1871). It includes the following report:

"At sundown there was a lull in the wind and comparative stillness. For two hours there were no signs of danger; but at a few minutes after nine o'clock, and by a singular coincidence, precisely the time at which the Chicago fire commenced, the people of the village heard a terrible roar. It was that of a tornado, crushing through the forests. Instantly the heavens were illuminated with a terrible glare. The sky, which had been so dark a moment before, burst into clouds of flame. A spectator of the terrible scene says the fire did not come upon them gradually from burning trees and other objects to the windward, but the first notice they had of it was a whirlwind of flame in great clouds from above the tops of the trees, which fell upon and entirely enveloped everything”.


 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


"For many of the witnesses it seemed as if the biblical "last days" had come. Though well accustomed to wildfires, they had seen nothing like this before. "They could give no other interpretation to this ominous roar, this bursting of the sky with flame, and this dropping down of fire out of the very heavens, consuming instantly everything it touched".

It came in great sheeted flames from heaven', says another. 'There was a pitiless rain of fire and SAND. The atmosphere was all afire'. Some speak of 'great balls of fire unrolling and shooting forth, in streams’. The fire leaped over roofs and trees, and ignited whole streets at once".


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A writer in the New York "Evening Post" says he saw "buildings far beyond the line of fire, and in no contact with it, burst into flames from the interior”.

To these references, Donnelly adds a quote from The Annual Record of Science and Industry" for 1876, page 84:

"The flames that consumed a great part of Chicago were of an unusual character and produced extraordinary effects. They absolutely melted the hardest building-stone, which had previously been considered fire-proof. Iron, glass, granite, were fused and run together into grotesque conglomerates, as if they had been put through a blast-furnace. No kind of material could stand its breath for a moment."

Another quote from Sheahan & Upton's Work:

"The huge stone and brick structures melted before the fierceness of the flames as a snow-flake melts and disappears in water, and almost as quickly. Six-story buildings would take fire and disappear for ever from sight in five minutes by the watch. . . . The fire also doubled on its track at the great Union Depot and burned half a mile southward in the very teeth of the gale--a gale which blew a perfect tornado, and in which no vessel could have lived on the lake. . . . Strange, fantastic fires of blue, red, and green played along the cornices of buildings".

 Quoting: Thunderbolts.info


These are the eyewitness reports of what occured during a simultaneous meteor shower noted by astronomers elsewhere.

Stay tuned!

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"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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If it will be visible come fall... What the hell does tis got to do w/ 3/3/11?
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If it will be visible come fall... What the hell does tis got to do w/ 3/3/11?
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I don't know. My thread has nothing to do with the March date. My thread has to do with when comet Elenin makes its closet approach and the direction its ionized tail will be pointing at that time, and where earth will be.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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when will it become visible?
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Comet Elenin (comet C/2010 X1) is approaching from our south and is due to pass through the ecliptic (from south to north) on or around March 3, 2011.

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you are being tested....
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If it will be visible come fall... What the hell does tis got to do w/ 3/3/11?
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I get the impression that comet Elenin is visible now if you are using a telescope in an observatory and you are located in the southern hemisphere.

Then, it appears to me that comet Elenin will be visible with the aid of a telescope from anywhere on earth once it has finished crossing the ecliptic (from south to north) which is ecpected to occur on March 3rd.

Lastly, comet Elenin will be visible with the naked eye once it has achieved a sufficiently brighter magnitude which is expected to occur around mid-August.
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Wallace Thornhill breaks down the Electric Comet

The following information will be quoted off of [link to www.holoscience.com] which is Wallace Thornhills website.

The electric comet.

On October 24th, periodic Comet Holmes (17P) brightened by nearly a million times overnight. For no apparent reason, it erupted from a very dim magnitude 17 to about magnitude 2.5 and its coma expanded to 2 million km diameter. Formerly, the Sun was the largest object in the Solar System. Briefly, Comet 17P/Holmes held that distinction.

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Image of comet Holmes from the 3.6-meter Canada-France-Hawaii telescope on Mauna Kea showing the 1.4 million km diameter coma approximately 5 months after perihelion (the point in an orbit that is closest to the Sun). The white ''star'' near the center of the coma is in fact the dust-shrouded nucleus. (Right) the Sun and planet Saturn shown at the same scale for comparison. (Sun and Saturn images courtesy of ESA/NASA's SOHO and Voyager projects). Credit: D. Jewitt and R. Stevenson,
Institute for Astronomy, University of Hawaii.

Comets will remain an enigma to astronomers as long as they insist that the star-size comas can be controlled in the solar 'wind' by the gravity of a tiny nucleus and that the energetic performances can be explained by solar heating. Comets are highly charged bodies moving radially in the electrical domain of the Sun. The comas and ion tails are an electrical phenomenon. And the dust is finely divided because it has been electrically 'sputtered' from the nucleus.

 Quoting: Holoscience.com


Let's take a little side step here and post some other relevant information.

Electric current from the Sun powers auroras.

On March 23, 2007 an auroral substorm erupted over Alaska and Canada, producing vivid auroras for more than two hours. Substorms are sudden bursts of energy in Earth's atmosphere that turn the undulating curtains of the Northern Lights into hyperactive light shows lasting from minutes to hours. Estimates of the total energy of the two-hour event were put at five hundred thousand billion (5 x 1014) Joules. That's approximately equivalent to the energy of a magnitude 5.5 earthquake.

Where does all that energy come from? THEMIS may have found an answer: "The satellites have found evidence for magnetic ropes connecting Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the Sun," says Dave Sibeck, project scientist for the mission at the Goddard Space Flight Center. "We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras."

This report was written within days of the 140th anniversary of the birth of the Norwegian-born physicist Kristian Birkeland. Birkeland correctly hypothesized and demonstrated experimentally in the early 20th century that electric current from the Sun powers the earth's auroras. The 'magnetic ropes' connecting the Sun and the Earth are more correctly named after him- 'Birkeland currents.' The solar wind is not a mechanical 'wind' of particles, it is an electric current from the Sun that takes the form of twisted filament pairs and plasma sheets.

"We have much more to learn about all these things," says Angelopoulos. "I can't wait to see what comes next." Reading Birkeland's century-old works would be a good start for NASA scientists. Terry Pratchett's wry remark applies to science, "Most of what you get taught is lies. It has to be. Sometimes if you get the truth all at once, you can't understand it."

"It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds."
— Kristian Birkeland
 Quoting: Holoscience.com


So the same energy responsible for causing auroras on planets within the whole solar system, will be responsible for any resulting affect we get from Comet Elenin.

I think it also affects more than just the weather, it possibly affects conciousness if fields are involved.. just ask anyone involved in astrology.

Stay tuned!

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"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION

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