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>>> LEONID ELENIN is NOT a REAL PERSON, IT'S A CODED MESSAGE <<<

 
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OP, does this mean if nothing happens and comet passes without a problem then your theory and all claculations regarding movies etc was load of BS?

Will you come back and accept being full of it?
just a thought
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More than meets the eye, this deserves a pin... Another bump
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EleNIn = Eleven, 9/11
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whatever it is don't pay too much attention
Don't ask. Don't think. Don't question. Just run.
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Whoever Leonid Elenin is, it's highly unlikely that he discovered the comet in December. It's far more likely that there's been an eye on it for quite some time and that only in December was its discovery unceremoniously released with this amateur astronomer given credit.
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Based on what exactly?
'Cause you say so?

For instance, determining the orbital parameters and projected path of a December-discovered comet is not left to the whim of some amateur buying time at the New Mexico observatory and then released to the public right away. The information was put together well ahead of the public 'release date'.

No authority owns such data. He didn't 'hire' the telescope.* Calculating ephemerals is trivial these days.
Sorry to bust your Conspiracy Fantasy, but astronomy just doesn't work like that.

The fact that there has been no real official announcement from NASA or other world space agencies/astronomical observatories is a sign that they don't want the larger public to know about it at the moment.

rolleyes
How many comets do you think are discovered every year?
Everybody who keeps track of astronomy knows about it, the rest of the world doesn't really care.

Considering what we're seeing erupt on Saturn right now as it approached and passed in the region of the planet from December to today, this may be for good reason.

Correlation != causation.

The only mainstream mention of it that's out there is a brief paragraph at the end of a Guardian article dated Jan. 17th.

One of the view papers that care about science.
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* Arguing from a position of ignorance, i.e. not even bothering to read the articles, is guaranteed to have you end with egg on your face.

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I don't need to speak Russian to determine that Elenin is a very rare Russian surname.


So what?
Rare != Doesn't exist.
ETA: Russian citizen != Ethnic Russian.

I never said the name didn't exist just that it is a highly unusual surname for a Russian. It is an extremely rare surname in general. FACT.

Why is that relevant.
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I also pointed out that the article was written in native Russian language and the astronomer's name is supposedly native Russian, but it did not translate out correctly on all three attempts. Why is that?

Because surnames are often not regular words, machines suck at transliterating those.
You could have figured this out for yourself.

If the surname is native to the Russian language there shouldn't be a problem translating it to English and back without it changing. Elenin does not appear to be a proper translation from Russian to English. His last name should read Yelenin in English.

Some surnames aren't proper words. You can't translate them.
Transliteration depends on the system one uses. And this is still a mindless machine doing it.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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You have not answered my question but instead discounted it. People like you are dangerous because you sweep legitimate questions under the rug in typical shill style.

WHAT legitimate questions?
Your just FUDing around.

See above and below.

More FUD. Spit it out.
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I don't need to be an expert in controlled demolition to know that WTC7 was controlled demolition also. Get it?

This phenomenon is know as the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
You are ignorant of your ignorance.
Opinions based on ignorance are next to worthless.

No sir, you are the one most incredibly ignorant and quite frankly brain dead if you believe a modern 47 story skyscraper can collapse symmetrically into its own foot print in under 7 seconds due to an office fire and NOT due to a carefully planned and executed controlled demolition. Common sense trumps bull shit coming out of anyone's mouth PHD or XYZ any day of the week.

If you are ignorant of the discipline how can you know it is bullshit.
Common sense relates to personal experiences on a personal scale.
It doesn't translate well, nor does it scale.

I'll take the well reasoned and supported professional opinion of every expert over anybodies 'common sense', including my own, any day.
If I want to get my car fixed I go to a auto-mechanic, NOT a dentist.

Anyhoo, if you have evidence of a crime having been committed it is your civic duty to report it to the police.
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Yes, it is possible buy remote telescope time but it is expensive.

He was partaking in a Citizen Scientist project.
Why didn't you read the bloody article?

You need to know what the fuck you are doing first before they allow you to burn through expensive telescope time. You can't just play around with these instruments and then voila, hey I found a comet. It takes years of education and field experience to know what the hell you are doing which your boy "Elenin" did not have.

I know...
You already had an opinion and couldn't be bothered with them pesky facts.

And you need to know what you are doing in order to effectively use it otherwise you burn through a lot of money. Someone who got his first telescope in 2006 is not going to have the sophistication to find comets that quickly on his own. He works in a completely different field.

It is a ROBOT telescope.
You CAN'T fuck it up.
If you had READ the article you'd know that.
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More 'expert opinion'.

I would characterize it as common logic.

Garbage In, Garbage Out.
If you don't know the facts logic is useless.
___________________________

There are many full time avid astronomers including professionals who have not found this comet let alone any comets, yet this young prodigy did so early in his career?

Most astronomers aren't comet/asteroid hunters.
It requires a specific approach. And luck.
For your homework assignment, how many comets were named after professional astronomers?
(Not counting McNaught, he's a freak.)


So your boy "Elenin" got incredibly lucky? Or was it skill? Or neither because he did not have the field experience or educational background to find a comet in the first place.


You still haven't read the article, haven't you.
Yes, he was lucky. Serendipitous discoveries are like that.
He also had an awful lot of shots at it.
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I don't buy it.

Who fucking cares.
What matters is what your evidence shows.

See above. And where is your evidence asshole? Some news story you read that said told you so? sheep

Trying to shift the burden of proof again.
The comet exists. Others can see it.
The discoverer exists. Others spoke to him. He himself has published online as LeonidOS.
The telescope exists. It has a website.
All the reported facts are consistent and coherent and match all previously know facts.
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Baa... baa... baa..
You are a black sheep.
With only wild speculations and doom-mongering paranoid fantasies to support you.

You got nothing.
And you have learned nothing from the literally dozens of times Doom-from-the-skies was predicted on this very website.
One day our planet is going to be hit by a comet again, but it wont be by this one.
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And, as icing on the cake, here is a mention of Mr. (Y)Elenin on the SpaceWeather.com page for 24 October 2008.
[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD = asshole.
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I have to admit that you can do a lot of hocus-pocus with this name...Elenin...it is damn interesting...but probably just a name...I don't know....9/11 good find....extincion level event...person(Jap) also very nice...but than again , it is always said ...we know these people (illumanati) communicate in codewords....how do we know that...probably just an invention of some con-nut....than again...maybe not..
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Anonymous Coward 1261023:
I don't need to speak Russian to determine that Elenin is a very rare Russian surname.


So what?
Rare != Doesn't exist.
ETA: Russian citizen != Ethnic Russian.

I never said the name didn't exist just that it is a highly unusual surname for a Russian. It is an extremely rare surname in general. FACT.

Why is that relevant.
___________________________
I also pointed out that the article was written in native Russian language and the astronomer's name is supposedly native Russian, but it did not translate out correctly on all three attempts. Why is that?

Because surnames are often not regular words, machines suck at transliterating those.
You could have figured this out for yourself.

If the surname is native to the Russian language there shouldn't be a problem translating it to English and back without it changing. Elenin does not appear to be a proper translation from Russian to English. His last name should read Yelenin in English.

Some surnames aren't proper words. You can't translate them.
Transliteration depends on the system one uses. And this is still a mindless machine doing it.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
___________________________
You have not answered my question but instead discounted it. People like you are dangerous because you sweep legitimate questions under the rug in typical shill style.

WHAT legitimate questions?
Your just FUDing around.

See above and below.

More FUD. Spit it out.
___________________________
I don't need to be an expert in controlled demolition to know that WTC7 was controlled demolition also. Get it?

This phenomenon is know as the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
You are ignorant of your ignorance.
Opinions based on ignorance are next to worthless.

No sir, you are the one most incredibly ignorant and quite frankly brain dead if you believe a modern 47 story skyscraper can collapse symmetrically into its own foot print in under 7 seconds due to an office fire and NOT due to a carefully planned and executed controlled demolition. Common sense trumps bull shit coming out of anyone's mouth PHD or XYZ any day of the week.

If you are ignorant of the discipline how can you know it is bullshit.
Common sense relates to personal experiences on a personal scale.
It doesn't translate well, nor does it scale.

I'll take the well reasoned and supported professional opinion of every expert over anybodies 'common sense', including my own, any day.
If I want to get my car fixed I go to a auto-mechanic, NOT a dentist.

Anyhoo, if you have evidence of a crime having been committed it is your civic duty to report it to the police.
___________________________
Yes, it is possible buy remote telescope time but it is expensive.

He was partaking in a Citizen Scientist project.
Why didn't you read the bloody article?

You need to know what the fuck you are doing first before they allow you to burn through expensive telescope time. You can't just play around with these instruments and then voila, hey I found a comet. It takes years of education and field experience to know what the hell you are doing which your boy "Elenin" did not have.

I know...
You already had an opinion and couldn't be bothered with them pesky facts.

And you need to know what you are doing in order to effectively use it otherwise you burn through a lot of money. Someone who got his first telescope in 2006 is not going to have the sophistication to find comets that quickly on his own. He works in a completely different field.

It is a ROBOT telescope.
You CAN'T fuck it up.
If you had READ the article you'd know that.
___________________________
More 'expert opinion'.

I would characterize it as common logic.

Garbage In, Garbage Out.
If you don't know the facts logic is useless.
___________________________

There are many full time avid astronomers including professionals who have not found this comet let alone any comets, yet this young prodigy did so early in his career?

Most astronomers aren't comet/asteroid hunters.
It requires a specific approach. And luck.
For your homework assignment, how many comets were named after professional astronomers?
(Not counting McNaught, he's a freak.)


So your boy "Elenin" got incredibly lucky? Or was it skill? Or neither because he did not have the field experience or educational background to find a comet in the first place.


You still haven't read the article, haven't you.
Yes, he was lucky. Serendipitous discoveries are like that.
He also had an awful lot of shots at it.
___________________________
I don't buy it.

Who fucking cares.
What matters is what your evidence shows.

See above. And where is your evidence asshole? Some news story you read that said told you so? sheep

Trying to shift the burden of proof again.
The comet exists. Others can see it.
The discoverer exists. Others spoke to him. He himself has published online as LeonidOS.
The telescope exists. It has a website.
All the reported facts are consistent and coherent and match all previously know facts.
___________________________
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
sheepsheepsheep

Baa... baa... baa..
You are a black sheep.
With only wild speculations and doom-mongering paranoid fantasies to support you.

You got nothing.
And you have learned nothing from the literally dozens of times Doom-from-the-skies was predicted on this very website.
One day our planet is going to be hit by a comet again, but it wont be by this one.
___________________________
And, as icing on the cake, here is a mention of Mr. (Y)Elenin on the SpaceWeather.com page for 24 October 2008.
[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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It is not a question of "hitting" us ..is it...it is more what i does without hitting us....
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Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....
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whatever it is don't pay too much attention
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Saw an interview yesterday with this Japanese guy concerning the possible blow up of the Yellowstone supervolcano....the interview lady asked wether we should't prepare for it...imho there is nothing much we can do...so, like in this case...don't pay much attention...there is not much we can do...btw I think this whole Elenin thing, including the interpretaion of this name, is going to hit MSM in a big way the next few months...media will love it....
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Such a well reasoned and eloquent rebuttal.


It is not a question of "hitting" us ..is it...it is more what i does without hitting us....
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In 1910 Earth passed through the tail of Comet Halley, nothing happened.
Lots of gas-masks were sold though...


Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....

In 2008 a 16-year-old girl in India committed suicide over the LHC will kill us all crap.
That is hardly a unique story.
A poster here on GLP lost is family and threatened self-harm over Nancy's Planet X.
Doom mongering isn't harmless

The problems and dangers that are real are worrisome enough, worrying about things that are not real is just a distraction from the things that matter.

Also: [link to imgs.xkcd.com]
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Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 02/10/2011 08:34 AM
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Hey OP...why not just ask?

l.elenin[at]gmail.com

[link to spaceobs.org]
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that, and also can contact him thru this page, but you have to sign up..

[link to ru.linkedin.com]
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I already contacted him. Here's a snippet:

************

ME: Is your birth given name "Leonid Elenin" and did you discover a comet on Dec. 10, 2010?

LEONID ELENIN: Yes.

ME: Okie dokey. Have a good day!

************

You see doomtards this guy is FOR REAL suckers!
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I have to admit that you can do a lot of hocus-pocus with this name...Elenin...it is damn interesting...but probably just a name...I don't know....9/11 good find....extincion level event...person(Jap) also very nice...but than again , it is always said ...we know these people (illumanati) communicate in codewords....how do we know that...probably just an invention of some con-nut....than again...maybe not..
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It's more than that. If TPTB have not been honest with us about who actually discovered the "comet" and when it was discovered and what it actually is, how can we believe anything they tell us including the size and trajectory of this comet and potential damage to Earth?

It's an issue of trust, not just a silly name game. More than likely TPTB knows something we don't and they won't tell us. But their sick minds like to pass clues as some kind of self-gratifying joke. That's why solving the name game is important so we know what's really going on.

If TPTB were honest and transparent with us then this thread would not even exist. So don't blame the OP.
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Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....
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Exactly, just agree to disagree and move on rather than pollute this thread.
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Anonymous Coward 941862:
Halcyon Dayz, FCD = asshole.


Such a well reasoned and eloquent rebuttal.


It is not a question of "hitting" us ..is it...it is more what i does without hitting us....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923740

In 1910 Earth passed through the tail of Comet Halley, nothing happened.
Lots of gas-masks were sold though...


Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....

In 2008 a 16-year-old girl in India committed suicide over the LHC will kill us all crap.
That is hardly a unique story.
A poster here on GLP lost is family and threatened self-harm over Nancy's Planet X.
Doom mongering isn't harmless

The problems and dangers that are real are worrisome enough, worrying about things that are not real is just a distraction from the things that matter.

Also: [link to imgs.xkcd.com]
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I'd rather be prepared and have nothing happen than the other way around. So I welcome people who warn us even if nothing ends up happening. As for the people who would kill themselves over a doomsday hypothesis, they only have themselves to blame. Don't blame the messenger.
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Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....
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Exactly, just agree to disagree and move on rather than pollute this thread.

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The hell why?

Are you afraid to have your ideas tested?
Then how are ever going to know they are true?

If it weren't for the skeptics this place would turn into a mutual ego-affirmation circle.

"I'll believe in your Nibiru if you believe in my Ninja Demolition Team."

That's not Truth Seeking, that is sheepleism of a different colour.
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Anonymous Coward 941862:
Halcyon Dayz, FCD = asshole.


Such a well reasoned and eloquent rebuttal.


It is not a question of "hitting" us ..is it...it is more what i does without hitting us....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923740

In 1910 Earth passed through the tail of Comet Halley, nothing happened.
Lots of gas-masks were sold though...


Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....

In 2008 a 16-year-old girl in India committed suicide over the LHC will kill us all crap.
That is hardly a unique story.
A poster here on GLP lost is family and threatened self-harm over Nancy's Planet X.
Doom mongering isn't harmless

The problems and dangers that are real are worrisome enough, worrying about things that are not real is just a distraction from the things that matter.

Also: [link to imgs.xkcd.com]
book
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Ok...valid point...can't do much about it tough...a lot of people are into doom...and it's addictive...still, you mention some casualties of doom...it's a fraction of casualties of invented wars, bad food habits promoted by bigcorp etc....
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I'd rather be prepared and have nothing happen than the other way around. So I welcome people who warn us even if nothing ends up happening.
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Disasters, natural and man-made, will always happen, they belong to the real things worth fretting about.
One can and should prepare for them.

But how does one prepare for a vague, magical occurrence.
If it's a physical pole shift don't even bother, you'd be dead, dead, dead...

As for the people who would kill themselves over a doomsday hypothesis, they only have themselves to blame. Don't blame the messenger.

You're such a humanitarian.
And don't call it hypothesis. Doom-mongers never 'hypothesise', they always claim to know.
The messengers lie.
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Ok...valid point...can't do much about it tough...a lot of people are into doom...and it's addictive...still, you mention some casualties of doom...it's a fraction of casualties of invented wars, bad food habits promoted by bigcorp etc....
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Those are the real things.
Governments are short-sighted, callous, and stupid.
Corporations are short-sighted, callous, and greedy.
No conspiracy theories required.

To do something about it requires real political action, not pretending to be a revolutionary on the internet.
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Interesting thread.
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Btw Halcyon....why are you so angry/fucked up....if, in your opinion it's a lot of crap...let them....
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Exactly, just agree to disagree and move on rather than pollute this thread.

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The hell why?

Are you afraid to have your ideas tested?
Then how are ever going to know they are true?

If it weren't for the skeptics this place would turn into a mutual ego-affirmation circle.

"I'll believe in your Nibiru if you believe in my Ninja Demolition Team."

That's not Truth Seeking, that is sheepleism of a different colour.
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It's not about ego but finding the truth. You will never find truth in what the TPTB tell you. Some people don't believe that TPTB exist yet the proof is right in front of them. It's called media censorship. There is no need to waste time debating something that can be proven.

You suggest that everything we have been told about Elenin is factual. Is that correct? Where is your evidence? Have you personally authenticated every piece of evidence? No, you trust the word of people whom you don't know or never met. Some people say a magazine interview proves this guy exists and he was the discoverer, but they don't realize these interviews are not given in person. Anyone can be answering the questions. It's not proof and easy to fake.

What I believe is that this comet will be used by MSM as a PR stunt for a doomsday scenario in the future. They are just planting the seed now and that is why the name was fabricated to make the doomsday connection with Deep Impact movie. And that is why the discovery was announced on a specific date. Do I have proof of it? No more proof than what you have brought forward. But I know from experience not to trust what I am told by TPTB. They always have ulterior motives.

Regarding you dodging my 9/11 statement. You are more than welcome to present my hypothesis to any reputable controlled demolition company and see how they respond. Ask them if it's possible to implode a skyscraper by starting an office fire and letting it burn. They will laugh you off the phone. Ask them if it's possible to implode a skyscraper without the use of a controlled demolition company and they will answer no. Go ahead and verify that my hypothesis is correct rather than discounting it because I am not an expert in the industry. I work in construction and build condo towers up to 20 stories which are not skyscrapers but the basic fundamental structural physics is the same. I know what I am talking about.
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I'd rather be prepared and have nothing happen than the other way around. So I welcome people who warn us even if nothing ends up happening.
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Disasters, natural and man-made, will always happen, they belong to the real things worth fretting about.
One can and should prepare for them.

But how does one prepare for a vague, magical occurrence.
If it's a physical pole shift don't even bother, you'd be dead, dead, dead...

As for the people who would kill themselves over a doomsday hypothesis, they only have themselves to blame. Don't blame the messenger.

You're such a humanitarian.
And don't call it hypothesis. Doom-mongers never 'hypothesise', they always claim to know.
The messengers lie.
book

Ok...valid point...can't do much about it tough...a lot of people are into doom...and it's addictive...still, you mention some casualties of doom...it's a fraction of casualties of invented wars, bad food habits promoted by bigcorp etc....
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Those are the real things.
Governments are short-sighted, callous, and stupid.
Corporations are short-sighted, callous, and greedy.
No conspiracy theories required.

To do something about it requires real political action, not pretending to be a revolutionary on the internet.
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No, I'm a realist.
Go ahead and keep responding. It helps bump my thread. he he
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OP, does this mean if nothing happens and comet passes without a problem then your theory and all claculations regarding movies etc was load of BS?

Will you come back and accept being full of it?
just a thought
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IMO the comet will be used as a PR stunt by MSM to incite doomsday fear sometime in the future when they need it. The comet may also be blamed for strange weather anomalies created by HAARP. Do I think this comet is anything to fear? NO. Other than it will be used to create fear at a later date.

The point of the OP is that I believe we are being lied to by TPTB (as usual) regarding this comet. I believe the name of the discoverer is not his real birth given name, but purposefully changed to reflect a coded message that ties in with a scripted Hollywood movie Deep Impact. But I don't think the comet itself will be a real threat. Instead it will be used as cover for some type of man made disaster or war. JMHO.
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OP, does this mean if nothing happens and comet passes without a problem then your theory and all claculations regarding movies etc was load of BS?

Will you come back and accept being full of it?
just a thought
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IMO the comet will be used as a PR stunt by MSM to incite doomsday fear sometime in the future when they need it. The comet may also be blamed for strange weather anomalies created by HAARP. Do I think this comet is anything to fear? NO. Other than it will be used to create fear at a later date.

The point of the OP is that I believe we are being lied to by TPTB (as usual) regarding this comet. I believe the name of the discoverer is not his real birth given name, but purposefully changed to reflect a coded message that ties in with a scripted Hollywood movie Deep Impact. But I don't think the comet itself will be a real threat. Instead it will be used as cover for some type of man made disaster or war. JMHO.

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Ya gotta ask urself why are the commodity markets in grains and foods opening almost daily limit up? Is this due to economic/financial fundamentals or are the informed Nations prepping for a disaster, secondly, gold and silver demand is raging, yet the little people are not driving demand, thus demand is coming from small groups of very wealthy people! Thirdly, oil/energy is trading sideways, it would appear that the nations strategic oil reserves are topped off, fourthly, FEMA is prepping for a contingent disaster!

Hmmmm!
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remember a few years back(2006/07), the winners of two consecutive X Factor's in the UK were LEONa Lewis, then LEON Jackson.

Leona, a highly talented singer, an obvious PLANT in that year's show, then Leon, a talentless tit, who beat a much better singer in the final?

I remember a few threads on here at the time about the LEO aspect of those two winners.

hmmm

and then of course, we have THIS..

''why does the X Factor theme show a supernova explosion, and more specifically, one in Orion?''

Thread: why does the X Factor theme show a supernova explosion, and more specifically, one in Orion?

connections forming in my brain......ahhh

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~BREAKING NEWS, PREPARE FOR A MASS DECLOAKING AND THE CHANGES TO COMMENCE. ITS A FAMILY REUNION~~













~LOVE REPORTER MOTHER SEKMAT~

~FAMILY REUNION~

Greetings. Welcome to “Nibiru”.

We have some friends here at the Nibiru Council:

With me are Alcyone, St Germain, Lady Master Nada and KOS, Captain Ashtar and Admiral Sananda, Rama, Tom the RingTail Cat and some of our other Paschat Friends. The are the ones you have met before, and the other Members of our Council you will become more familiar with.

We welcome you all. Thank you for joining us here on Nibiru. We come to you tonight to bring a message about family reunions. Many of you have been to Nibiru or originated from Nibiru. There is much about your own ancient history you do not yet remember.

NASA has come out with a lengthy discourse denying the existence of Nibiru. I assure you, Nibiru exists and it is very real [Check out pictures of Niburu from NASA! [link to www.welcomethelight.com] Tony]. We are here because Earth is ascending. We are here to assist all the inhabitants on Earth in their ascension.



There are millions of Galactics now living on Nibiru. Our MotherShip is in your Earth’s orbit. We each have a job to carry out which assists in bringing Earth to this change point. We work with the Sirian Commander, U.S. President Barack Obama. He has prepared many lifetimes for the role he now plays.

He has special abilities and will carry Earth into a new era of One Race. We help coordinate the Master Plan for Worldwide Peace.

I have lived before on Earth, for thousands of years, during the Golden Age in Egypt. I am known as Mother Sekhmet, the Lion Goddess [see Robert Masters book"The Goddess Sekhmet"].

I am joined here with the Galactics, your family. We are the lion people, the bird people, and the reptile people. We are all humanoids, we are hybrids.

We are joined by the Kumaras of Shamballa, the peoples from Inner Earth, in the Argatha Network, and the Council of 4 and 20. We are also joined by Councils from Planets in your Solar System and beyond your Solar System.

All of us are meeting together and we will be meeting with you on Earth. We have been working with the people of Earth on Ascension.

As Earth vibration raises up to the Higher Dimensions, there are some who have chosen to leave the Planet rather than make the changes needed to ascend with everyone else. These Ones have volunteered to wear the Dark Hats and teach about duality. They got so into their role-playing,that they were unable to turn the Dark Hat to a White Hat.

Their time is up. We love them, because they lovingly played these roles so each one of us could experience life’s lessons.

The Ones who are leaving now have volunteered to be returned to the Source. That is my role, to help them go. For too long the Dark Hats have controlled, lied, and manipulated their fellow humanity on Earth. They have kept your true origin from you. They have manipulated you into forced slavery for their own benefit. They have kept you in a place where you are unable to see you are all Creator Gods. The only way to bring World Peace on Earth is to bring all the Councils, working together, to make it happen. Many of you here now are lightworkers and starseeds who incarnated at this time for the sole purpose of turning Earth back to a Planet of Love where all races live together in harmony.

Mother Earth [Gaia], with her Twin Flame, Vywamus, has requested an end to her destruction and nothing can stop these changes from coming to pass.

We have Galactic Technologies on our Ships which support this effort along with millions of Galactics here to play roles in bringing about Earth Ascension. We have transportation, communication, intel, computer systems, imaging abilities, and healing capabilities which far surpass anything you have ever been aware of in recent memory.


[link to soundofheart.org]
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voice chats working again. how bout all alien transmissions (thats what this is supposed to be right?) now be done through the voicechat option hmmm?
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Ya gotta ask urself why are the commodity markets in grains and foods opening almost daily limit up? Is this due to economic/financial fundamentals or are the informed Nations prepping for a disaster, secondly, gold and silver demand is raging, yet the little people are not driving demand, thus demand is coming from small groups of very wealthy people! Thirdly, oil/energy is trading sideways, it would appear that the nations strategic oil reserves are topped off, fourthly, FEMA is prepping for a contingent disaster!

Hmmmm!
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No question something is brewing in the pot. However it could be as simple as preparing for a currency collapse and civil unrest and not necessarily a natural doomsday. Time will tell.
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remember a few years back(2006/07), the winners of two consecutive X Factor's in the UK were LEONa Lewis, then LEON Jackson.

Leona, a highly talented singer, an obvious PLANT in that year's show, then Leon, a talentless tit, who beat a much better singer in the final?

I remember a few threads on here at the time about the LEO aspect of those two winners.

hmmm

and then of course, we have THIS..

''why does the X Factor theme show a supernova explosion, and more specifically, one in Orion?''

Thread: why does the X Factor theme show a supernova explosion, and more specifically, one in Orion?

connections forming in my brain......ahhh

1rof1
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You actually watch that shit??? Well that explains your idiotic comment then.

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