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It began last night when I thought I saw a glitch in the Matrix.
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I couldn't make anything out of this map.
[link to smartin.bol.ucla.edu]

"Note, this is a fictitious map! It represents an alternate Roman history that never happened."
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Somehow, I was temporally blinded. Then CaptianSensible stated the corrections that Rome never conquered all of Germany, or Hibernia (Ireland) or extend so far south into Nubia, I concurred for my sight suddenly cleared-up, and added that ISRAEL is neither mentioned on the map, and of course that couldn't be true because Jesus makes reference to Israel dozens of times as do the Apostles and the Old Testament.

I just thought at this point ISRAEL didn't appear on that fictitious map of the Roman Empire alone and that if I went looking on the real maps, ISRAEL would most definitely be there. I went digging, and saw how far the rabbit hole went.

Historical Roman maps.
[link to www.catholicnewsagency.com]
[link to www.bergbook.com]

This ones the real McCoy.
[link to www.davidrumsey.com]

ISRAEL is not on any Roman maps.

ISRAEL was never a part of the Roman Empire.

ISRAEL never EXISTED!

THE WRATH OF THE LAMB WILL NOT BE POURED OUT ON YOU!

THE LAMB IS A FICTIONAL-CHARACTER.

The elites are INSANE and are trying to fulfill the prophetic destruction and persecution of a Fairytale Book.
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They'll ban you for this y'know.

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Say Palestine on all the ancient maps. wtf?
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Israel was not always called Israel. It is not a name descended from tradition. It was deliberately created and applied to a pre-existing people. They were formerly called Jacob (rarely also Jeshurun). Jacob is both the name of a patriarch and a collective term for the Arameans who migrated to northern Palestine in the latter half of the second millenium.
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No Israel, just Palestine on the maps.
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No Israel, just Palestine on the maps.
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So all this mid east shit is for something that never existed? Are they THAT desperate for the oil?

Sad.

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Look at the map carefully.
[link to smartin.bol.ucla.edu]

The Empire extends further north (Germany,Ireland) then on Historical genuine maps.

And way farther south, Nubia.

I believe this was intentional done by the UCLA Professor.

I believe the UCLA Professor made this map to draw attention to look north first, then south, then, look for other inconsistencies with true historical maps. In doing so anyone born in North American is most probably either baptized Christian or has celebrated Christmas and knows the story that JESUS walked during the days of the Roman empire and that the God of ISRAEL was his father, ergo, ISRAEL was must have been a part of history, part of the Roman Empire. ITS NOT!
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You FOOL.........here is the truth:

The region was originally called Judea ('land of the Jews') and was a province of the Roman empire from 63 BC. Following the unsuccessful Bar Kochba revolt of 132-135 AD, the Roman emperor Hadrian became so annoyed with the Jews that he expelled most of them from the region and renamed it Palestine - the name it retains today.

Geez.......everyone knos Rome is and was an EVIL bastard!!!
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Israel was not always called Israel. It is not a name descended from tradition. It was deliberately created and applied to a pre-existing people. They were formerly called Jacob (rarely also Jeshurun). Jacob is both the name of a patriarch and a collective term for the Arameans who migrated to northern Palestine in the latter half of the second millenium.
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Dude, maybe you should brush up with the Word of the Lamb.

Book of Luke 7
9 -- When Jesus heard this he was amazed at him and, turning, said to the crowd following him, "I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith."
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The list goes on and on in the New Testament.
[link to www.middletownbiblechurch.org]

Then, there is the Old.

This Christian faith has been OFFICIALLY, DE-BUNKED!

R I P

hf
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I think most people realize Israel was founded by evil zionists that are hiding behind jewish people and using their history, just like they are hiding behind anti-semitic notions, anti-defamation, to protect themselves as they set out to deceive the west with the media, AIPAC israeli lobbies, and Mossad false-flags. All the while comitting genocide on the Palestinian people.
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his 'real mccoy' isn't a roman map either
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No Israel, just Palestine on the maps.
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The Romans called the inhabitants by their regional name.

Jew or not....Islam did not exist at the time. They where all Jews and the Roman still pagans.
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You FOOL.........here is the truth:

The region was originally called Judea ('land of the Jews') and was a province of the Roman empire from 63 BC. Following the unsuccessful Bar Kochba revolt of 132-135 AD, the Roman emperor Hadrian became so annoyed with the Jews that he expelled most of them from the region and renamed it Palestine - the name it retains today.

Geez.......everyone knos Rome is and was an EVIL bastard!!!
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Copy paste is all you pretzel brains can muster.

You'll have to change the Old Testament to the Lord God of Judea, instead of the LORD God of ISRAEL.

Book of Isaiah 45
3 -- I will give you treasures out of the darkness, and riches that have been hidden away, That you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who calls you by your name.
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Judea is Judea.

Judea is not ISRAEL.

Its time we do away with dumb religions and usher-in peace instead of War.

PEACE, friend.
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his 'real mccoy' isn't a roman map either
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Whatever, try posting one that you deem "McCoy!"

Oh, and make sure you airbrush "PALESTINA" out first, and ISRAEL in!
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Religion is a mess..Who created it anyway?
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this is not new information, it is a well known fact that the PLO got the term 'Palestine' from the Roman empire.

I guess we'll have to tell all the north africans to pack up as well because their countries aren't on there either.
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Israel was not always called Israel. It is not a name descended from tradition. It was deliberately created and applied to a pre-existing people. They were formerly called Jacob (rarely also Jeshurun). Jacob is both the name of a patriarch and a collective term for the Arameans who migrated to northern Palestine in the latter half of the second millenium.
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Dude, maybe you should brush up with the Word of the Lamb.

Book of Luke 7
9 -- When Jesus heard this he was amazed at him and, turning, said to the crowd following him, "I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith."
----------

The list goes on and on in the New Testament.
[link to www.middletownbiblechurch.org]

Then, there is the Old.

This Christian faith has been OFFICIALLY, DE-BUNKED!

R I P

hf
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Where was this ISRAEL that this JESUS spoke of?

Was it where he walked?

Was it where he talked?

Not in the Roman empire, this is a certainty!

Where then?

What did Moses tell the Children of ISRAEL when he took them out of bondage (Egypt) and into the promised land (ISRAEL) where SOLOMON built the TEMPLE where JESUS "apparently" turned over tables.

The Temple according to History was pulled down in 70AD, therefore, ISRAEL should have appeared on Roman maps, unless, the Elites fabricated this TEMPLE, fabricated this JESUS, fabricated the historical accounts of both.

How fawkin deep does this rabbit hole.

Who the fawk is the Vatican?

How the fawk did they fool so many people?

How, into worshiping Christmas all over the World which at this point is on the same level as Santa Claus?
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this is not new information, it is a well known fact that the PLO got the term 'Palestine' from the Roman empire.

I guess we'll have to tell all the north africans to pack up as well because their countries aren't on there either.
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This is new, Brand new.

The north Africans are there.
[link to www.bergbook.com]

Shilling isn't your strong point friend, trolling is.
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Book of Exodus 6
11 -- Go in, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, that he let the children of Israel go out of his land.

Book of Deuteronomy 26
15 -- Look down from thy holy habitation, from heaven, and bless thy people Israel, and the land which thou hast given us, as thou swarest unto our fathers, a land that floweth with milk and honey.
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Wow, the Elites have super-powers to spin your heads in any direction they choose.

If the Elites say, there, there is your God, you will believe it.

If the Elites say, earth is round, (although you see it flat), you will believe it.

If the Elites say, there, there is your enemy, you will believe it.

All your brains are like Pretzels, wired to their mainframe.
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ISRAEL really is ISIS RA EL

SOLOMON really is SOL MOON
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THEY ARE SETTING US UP -- AND WE ARE ALLOWING THEM!




GOD ISN'T WRATHFUL -- PEOPLE IN POWER ARE!
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Religion is a mess..Who created it anyway?
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Guess.
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One camp created a dark self-serving religion and the other camp encoded their own opposing philosophy within it during translation. Truly, a "light to the Gentiles".
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What's your point? That It doesn't say israel?
The USA has many names. United States, America, The states ect...
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Israel is the name given to Jacob after his fight with the Angel of God (Genesis 32:28).

The meaning of the name Israel is not clear, although Israel is most likely a compilation of the verb (sara 2287) and the noun (El 93a), the common abbreviation of Elohim.

The meaning of the verb (sara 2287) is uncertain and explained in many ways, chiefly because it is limited to contexts which discuss the struggle of Jacob with the Angel of the Lord, insinuating that where our language uses the common verb 'struggle,' the Hebrew uses a word that is specifically reserved for a certain action: the action of struggling with God.

BDB Theological Dictionary reports for (sara 2287) the Arabic cognate of persist, persevere, and relates it to the word (sora 2245a), rows, which only Isaiah uses, in 28:25. More interesting even is the word (misra 2288a), a unique word that probably means rule or dominion, and which Isaiah uses in the highly Messianic passage of 8:6, "...and the government is on His shoulder." Nobody knows what the root of this word is but linguists have arrived at the conclusion that it must be identical to , the word that gave rise to the name Israel.

It gets even better when we look at the verb (sarar 2295), rule, reign, act as prince. Derivative (sar 2295) means prince, and (sarah 2295b) means princess and is (near) equal to the both the name of Jacob's grandmother Sarah and the root-word of Israel.

We can not say with certainty what the name Israel is supposed to mean, although it seems to reflect a certain inability of the Almighty God, namely the not being able to defeat a man like Jacob. We can be sure that God doesn't lack the physical strength to eradicate any human being, so we must conclude that the destruction of Jacob would go against the very nature of God. Perhaps the name Israel denotes God's continuous effort to keep Jacob going, even though Jacob continues to fight God.

The name Israel means God Strives (NOBS Study Bible Name List), or El Persisteth, Persevereth (BDB Theological Dictionary). BDB Theological Dictionary offers an alternative meaning of Let El Persist. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names, uppity as ever, renders He Will Be A Prince With God.
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It began last night when I thought I saw a glitch in the Matrix.
Thread: Something really strange. Its like a glitch in the MATRIX

I couldn't make anything out of this map.
[link to smartin.bol.ucla.edu]

"Note, this is a fictitious map! It represents an alternate Roman history that never happened."
----------

Somehow, I was temporally blinded. Then CaptianSensible stated the corrections that Rome never conquered all of Germany, or Hibernia (Ireland) or extend so far south into Nubia, I concurred for my sight suddenly cleared-up, and added that ISRAEL is neither mentioned on the map, and of course that couldn't be true because Jesus makes reference to Israel dozens of times as do the Apostles and the Old Testament.

I just thought at this point ISRAEL didn't appear on that fictitious map of the Roman Empire alone and that if I went looking on the real maps, ISRAEL would most definitely be there. I went digging, and saw how far the rabbit hole went.

Historical Roman maps.
[link to www.catholicnewsagency.com]
[link to www.bergbook.com]

This ones the real McCoy.
[link to www.davidrumsey.com]

ISRAEL is not on any Roman maps.

ISRAEL was never a part of the Roman Empire.

ISRAEL never EXISTED!

THE WRATH OF THE LAMB WILL NOT BE POURED OUT ON YOU!

THE LAMB IS A FICTIONAL-CHARACTER.

The elites are INSANE and are trying to fulfill the prophetic destruction and persecution of a Fairytale Book.
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yes, please, keep believing this.

Go ahead.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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this is interesting.

what word is in the original OT and NT, that our English Bibles translate as Israel?
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I agree with you OP, religion is propaganda at its finest. I don't believe it's ancient, either.

I think you're on to many things, keep up the good work!
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The 12 Tri\bes were split into 2 kingdoms, Israel and Judah. The Romans changed the name of the land to Palestine (after the Philistines) after the unsuccessful revolt. No rabbit holes here, all is as you've always heard.
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It say Palestine on all the old maps I googled. All of them, going back thousands of years right up to today. Only today it is a tiny speck, it used to be huge.
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It began last night when I thought I saw a glitch in the Matrix.
Thread: Something really strange. Its like a glitch in the MATRIX

I couldn't make anything out of this map.
[link to smartin.bol.ucla.edu]

"Note, this is a fictitious map! It represents an alternate Roman history that never happened."
----------

Somehow, I was temporally blinded. Then CaptianSensible stated the corrections that Rome never conquered all of Germany, or Hibernia (Ireland) or extend so far south into Nubia, I concurred for my sight suddenly cleared-up, and added that ISRAEL is neither mentioned on the map, and of course that couldn't be true because Jesus makes reference to Israel dozens of times as do the Apostles and the Old Testament.

I just thought at this point ISRAEL didn't appear on that fictitious map of the Roman Empire alone and that if I went looking on the real maps, ISRAEL would most definitely be there. I went digging, and saw how far the rabbit hole went.

Historical Roman maps.
[link to www.catholicnewsagency.com]
[link to www.bergbook.com]

This ones the real McCoy.
[link to www.davidrumsey.com]

ISRAEL is not on any Roman maps.

ISRAEL was never a part of the Roman Empire.

ISRAEL never EXISTED!

THE WRATH OF THE LAMB WILL NOT BE POURED OUT ON YOU!

THE LAMB IS A FICTIONAL-CHARACTER.

The elites are INSANE and are trying to fulfill the prophetic destruction and persecution of a Fairytale Book.
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Why would Israel appear on a roman map? At the time there was no Israel, there was Judea, Galille, and Samaria. Israel disappeared roughly 600 years earlier when the asstyrians conquered them.





GLP