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So who is this Mahdi?

The Mahdi (also Mehdi or Mihdi), in Islamic eschatology, is a prophecy about a redeemer of Islam, who will change the world into a perfect society just before Yaum al-Qiyamah (the end times).

The Mahdi in Sunni traditions
The exact nature of the Mahdi is not completely clear, but according to Sunni traditions a basic overview is as follows:

The Mahdi will appear during the last days of the world, and will precede the second coming of Jesus, whom Muslims believe to be the messiah. The two are different individuals, but they will work together to fight evil in the world and to cement justice on Earth. Mahdi means "the guided one" and he will apparently come from Mecca and rule from Damascus. He will not defeat the false Messiah or anti-christ, known as the Dajjal (liar); that will be done by Jesus. Once the Dajjal is defeated, Jesus and the Mahdi will live on Earth for many years. According to some traditions, Jesus will get married and have a family, and then die. There are claims that a grave is dug for him next to Muhammad´s in the Masjid al-Nabawi in Medina, but this is not a universal Sunni belief.

Ali ibn Abi Talib, the fourth caliph, reported that the Prophet Muhammad said, "Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah (Day of judgement) to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression."


The Mahdi in Shiite traditions
Twelver Shia Muslims believe that the Mahdi is the last (i.e. 12th) of the Imams.

The Mahdi was actually born in 868, but went into occultation when he was five. See also: Muhammad al-Mahdi

As in the Sunni tradition, Shiites believe that the Mahdi will return to Earth at the end of times and will usher in a new age of peace and help defeat the false messiah.

Many of the prophecies concerning the Mahdi come from Hadiths, which can vary greatly between Sunni and Shi´a traditions. Shi´a Muslims have references to the Promised One from the Imams, which aren´t accepted by Sunni Muslims.


Features of the Mahdi
According to other reported sayings of Muhammad some of the features of al-Mahdi are:

He will be tall
He will be fair-complexioned
He will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. ...
His facial features will be similar to those of the Prophet Muhammad
His character will be like that of the Prophet Muhammad
He will be a member of the Prophet Muhammad´s Ahlul-Bayt Household.
He will be a descendent of Hazrat Hassan (ra)
His father´s name will be Abdullah [same as Prophet Muhammad´s father]
His mother´s name will be Aamina [same as Prophet Muhammad´s mother]
His name will be "Muhammad"
He will speak with a slight stutter
He will occasionally hit his hand upon his thigh when he stutters
His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years (like Muhammad)
He will be born in Medina (literally a city or township)
He will receive knowledge from Allah


So could Osama be this man.

He is tall very tall 6´ 6"
He is of fair complexion for a Muslim
He will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. ... Osama has this.
His name will be "Muhammad"
Bin Laden´s full name is
"Usāmah bin Muhammad bin `Awad bin Lādin"

His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years

Bin Laden is currently 48 years old.

When he issued his fatwa against the Zionist he was roughly 40 years old.

In 1998, bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri (a leader of Egyptian Islamic Jihad) co-signed a fatwa (binding religious edict) in the name of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, declaring, "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies – civilians and military – is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Makka) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, ´and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,´ and ´fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah.´"


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I do know with lips like that, he must suck a lot of dick on the side.
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Seeing that the Christian world has lined it self up for the final battle´s against Muslims, would it not be wise to understand what the other side believe´s?
I just thought I´d put some of it out there.
It is interesting though to see the similarities between the 2 in end time beliefs.
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Qiyamah
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Yaum al-Qiyâmah (يوم القيامة; literally: "Day of the Resurrection" (Qur´an 71.18), also known as "the Hour (Qur´an 31.34, 74.47)," "Day of the Account," (Qur´an 72.130 "Day of the Gathering," "Day of the Reckoning," "Day of Distress," (Qur´an 74.9) and the "Great Announcement") is the Arabic name for the Last Judgement. Belief in Qiyâmah is part of Aqidah and is a fundamental tenet of faith in Islam. The trials and tribulations of Qiyâmah are detailed in both the Qur´an and the Hadith, as well as in the commentaries of the Islamic expositors and scholarly authorities such as al-Ghazali, Ibn Kathir, Ibn Maja, Muhammad al-Bukhari, and Ibn Khuzaimah who explain them in detail. Every human, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, is held accountable for his or her deeds and are judged by God accordingly (Qur´an 74.38).

Contents [hide]
1 Overview
2 The Gathering
3 Rejection of false Gods
4 Personification in Qiyamah
5 Barzakh
6 Al-Kawthar
7 "Seeing" Allah
8 Judgement
9 Jahannam and Jannah
10 Redemption
11 The Mahdi and ad-Dajjal
11.1 Mark of the Beast
12 Sources
13 See also
14 External links



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Overview
At a time unknown to man, but preordained (Qur´an 17.49-51, 34.28-30, 72.25-26, 79.42-44, Sahih Bukhari, book 2 "book of faith", number 47), when people least expect it, Allah will give permission for the Qiyâmah to begin. The archangel Israfil, referred to as the Caller, will sound a horn sending out a "Blast of Truth" (Qur´an 50.37-42, 69.13-18, 74.8, 78.18). All men and women will fall unconcious. The first to awake will be Muhammad who will see Moses, who may or may not have awoken prior, holding up the Throne of Allah at the mountain of Tur (Sahih Bukhari, book 55 "accounts of the prophets", numbers 610, 620, 626.) Those who distorted or ignored the Qur´an will be engulfed in hellfire (Qur´an 2.174-6, 72.4, 72.15, 73.12, 74.26-27, 74.42-46, 79.36-39). On the other hand, those who truly believed in Allah, referred to as Al-Ghurr-ul-Muhajjalun (Sahih Bukhari, book 4 "Ablution", number 133; 138 in another edition) due to the trace of ritual ablution performed during their lives, will repent their sin and will return to "the Garden beneath which rivers flow," (Qur´an 58.21, 61.2, 64.9, 65.11, 66.8-11, 68.17-32, 69.21-24, 70.32-38, 71.12, 74.40, 76.12-14, 78.32, 79.40-41, 80.28-31, 85.11, 88.8-11). The world will be destroyed, or folded, the dead will rise from their graves and will gather, waiting to be judged for their actions (Qur´an 11.102-7). The ayat "And the moon is buried in darkness. And the sun and moon are joined together," (75.8-9) can be interpreted in many ways. The classical commentators Al-Jalalayn, Al-Tabari and Al-Qortobi explain this verse as meaning that the sun and moon are joined in being darkened (which may be a possible reference to a lunar eclipse), rather than truly merged together.

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The Gathering
Alamin (humankind, the Jinn, and all other living beings), will be gathered upon a vast, white, featureless ground, under the intense heat of the Sun overhead. They will be naked, uncircumcised and crowded together to the point where some are submerged in their own sweat, as in the beginning of creation (Qur´an 21.104, Sahih Bukhari, book 55 "accounts of the prophets", number 656; Qur´an 5.117-118). The degree to which one is submerged in sweat depends on the extent of his or her piety and goodness. The faces of those who practiced good adab by following the Five Pillars of Islam in their daily lives are nadirah, shining and radiant, whereas the faces of disbelievers are basirah, dark, sad and frowning (Qur´an 75.22-24). Despite being unclothed the anxiety and fear of the situation will be so great that no one would think to look at another´s nudity. The creatures thus wait to be brought before God for their judgement. Humans will be so fearful on this "day" that the prophets themselves will repeatedly address God with the phrase sallim, sallim, or spare, spare — that is, "spare your followers, O God," and followers of Muhammad during his lifetime who strayed from Islam after his passing will be engulfed in fire (Qur´an 5.117-118, Sahih Bukhari, book 55 "accounts of the prophets", number 568). Even the angels are fearful, as some hadiths state that on that day, Allah will be angrier than he has been or ever will be.

The Qu´ran mentions the duration of the day of judgement as 50,000 years (Qur´an 70.4) and that it may have already begun (Qur´an 42.17, 47.18, 70.6-7). People will beseech the prophets to intercede on their behalf, first Abraham, then Moses, then Adam, and finally Noah, all of whom decline to do so and instead point to the prophet Muhammad, who will intercede behalf of the world (Qur´an 74.48; Sahih Bukhari, book 55 "accounts of the prophets", number 555, 569). Abraham will meet his father Azar whose face will be basirah. When Abraham demands that his father not be disgraced he is informed that on this day no one is above reproach (Sahîh al-bokhârî, book 55 "accounts of the prophets", number 581). Abraham finds a blood-stained Dhabh beneath his feet and throws him into Jahannam.

Other notable relatives who are among those cast into Jahannam include the wives of Noah (Nuh) and Lut (Qur´an 66.10). When Lut and his family left Sodom and Gomorrah, his wife disobeyed the commands of the two angels not to look back at the burning city, thus she is not among Al-Ghurr-ul-Muhajjalun.

Adam is ordered by Allah to bring all of those who rejected Islam to Jahannam. He asks how many he should bring and Allah answers, "From every one thousand, take out nine-hundred-and ninety-nine." At that time children will become hoary headed (Qur´an 73.12), previously healed wounds will reappear (Sahih Bukhari, book 4 "Ablution", number 238), every pregnant female will have a miscarriage, and one will see mankind as drunken, yet they will be sober, but dreadful will be the Wrath of God (Qur´an 69.47, Sahih Bukhari, book 55 "accounts of the prophets", number 567.)

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Rejection of false Gods
Idols will assert that only God is Lord, and that they were wrongfully worshipped. The Qur´an and Hadith state that the prophet Jesus will return and will deny he claimed he was Lord (Qur´an 43.61). In regard to idolatry, Muhammad said, "If any religious man dies amongst those people they would build a place of worship at his grave and make these pictures in it. They will be the worst creature in the sight of God on the Day of Resurrection," (Sahih Bukhari, book 8 "Prayers", number 409 (419 in the USC MSA database.)

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Personification in Qiyamah
The personification of objects that are not normally considered anthropomorphic is a recurrent motif in Kalam (Islamic theology) regarding the wa´dul akhirati (afterlife). For instance, artists who depict living creatures are tormented by their creations. Allah infuses each with a soul due to the Islamic prohibition against aristists depicting beings that have "souls," interpreted as meaing all mammals including humans. In the grave one faces either a reassuring man (his or her good deeds), or a foul-looking creature (his or her sins) (Qur´an 82.4). Again, this recurs in the subject of the Qiyâmah. For instance, the Qu´ran appears as an anthropomorphic being that greets those who loved it in their lives and offers them some solace. In the same vein, accounts in primary Islamic literature mention that at some point (perhaps after creatures are confined to either paradise (al-firdaus) or hell) Death will be brought forth and slain, and a proclamation that there is no more death will be sounded.

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Barzakh
Barzakh is a sequence that happens after death, in which the archangel Azrael with the help of other less significant angels will separate the soul from the body, either harshfully or painlessly depending on how righteous the person was during their lifetime (Qur´an 79.1-2). Three main events take place chronologically which constitute the Barzakh sequence:

The separation of the soul and the body.
Nakir and Munkar´s (two Islamic Angels) interrogation of the soul in its grave.
"Who is your Lord?"
"What is your way of life?"
"Who is your Prophet?"
The "Waahsh" or the horror of the grave, the pressure of the grave depending on whether the person was righteous or not.
Muhammad referred to the interrogation as, "...the worst hours of a man´s life".

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Al-Kawthar
Believers will be led by the prophet Muhammad to a vast basin or lake-fount called al-kawthar الكوثر, where their thirst will be sated with a white-colored drink that tastes like sweetened milk. Whosoever drinks it, never thirsts thereafter. In one hadith al-kawthar is said to be a river of paradise (al-Bukhari, book 76, hadith 583.) Sahih Bukhari, in book 76 (the book of tenderness), the chapter on the basin contains at least 14 hadiths regarding it.

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"Seeing" Allah
Islam also addresses the question of whether believers will be able to see Allah on that day. According to one or more Hadith classified as sahîh (trustworthy), God will reveal a "leg" or "shin" for the believers. According to Imam Muslim and Muhammad al-Bukhari believers will not see Allah until they have died. Again, classical commentators, with the notable exception of Ibn Taymiya, prefer the safe route of interpreting that Hadith as neither literal (haqiqi) nor figurative, but most if not all agree that it answers the question in the affirmative; believers will see God. Another Hadith states that believers will be able to see their Lord, just as we are able to see the sun or the moon in the sky. When God reveals Himself to the faithful, a Hadith states that those who during their life would not pray of their own free will will be made to fall on their backs.

Since most of those hadith are on the authority of Abu Huraira, most Shia dismiss them as a sad examples of what happens when all Sahaba are counted as trustworthy: A clear breach in Tawhid, the belief that God is above its creation.

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Judgement
During judgement, a man´s or a woman´s own book of deeds will be opened, and they will be apprised of every action they did and every word they spoke (Qur´an 54.52-53). Actions taken during childhood are not judged. The account of deeds is so detailed that the man or woman will wonder at how comprehensive the account is, that even minor and trivial deeds are included. When the Hour is at hand, some will deny that al-Qiyamah is taking place and will be warned that al-Qiyamah precedes the Day of Pining (distress) (Qur´an 30.55-57, 19.39). If one denies a deed he or she committed, or refuses to acknowledge it, his or her body parts will testify against him or her.

Throughout judgement, however, the underlying principle is that of a complete and perfect justice administered by God. The accounts of judgement are also replete with the emphasis that God is merciful and forgiving, and that mercy and forgiveness will be granted on that day insofar as it is merited.

This is similar to some Protestant theologies that state that salvation is by the grace of God, and not by deeds. Islam, however, emphasizes that grace does not conflict with perfect justice.

Animals are also judged, but separately, and they are avenged from humans and other animals. They are then made to perish. The animals (or other creatures) in paradise are thus different than the animals of our world.

There is indication also that nations are collectively called to account for their deeds. And there are Hadiths that indicate that on judgement day people are made to join the races or communities with which they associated themselves, which points to a definition of society in ideological — not racial — terms.

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Jahannam and Jannah
After judgement all men and women are made to cross over a deep abyss, whence the flames of Jahannam (Hell) leap up, on al-Sirât (الصراط), a thorny bridge so thin that it cannot be seen. The believers and those destined for Jannah are able to cross quickly and safely, whereas others fall off this hair-thin bridge into hell.

Concerning the matter of reward or Heaven (paradise) and Hell (punishment), there is the subject of the Intercession (الشفاعة). Hadiths classified as sahih state that the prophet Muhammad will be allowed to intercede on behalf of all of mankind, as opposed to the prophets who preceded him who were only able to appeal to nations (Sahîh al-bukhari, book 7 "Tayammum (rubbing hands and feet with dust)", number 331.) Furthermore, a believer will be allowed to plead for members of his family and for his loved ones. Throughout the discourse regarding the ultimate destiny, the consistent tenet is that being sent to paradise or to hell is a matter in God´s hands alone (or, in Christian parlance, a matter determined by grace). God is thus the ultimate arbiter and qadi (judge) as to who remains in hell and who is rescued.

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Redemption
In one Hadith, it is related that after the Intercession of the prophet Muhammad, God himself intercedes, repeatedly ordering his angels to fetch out of hell any who sincerely professed the Shahada (Sahih Bukhari, book 3 "book of learning or knowledge", number 97 (98 in another edition)) until the angels are ordered to return and find anyone with even an atom´s measure of goodness in his or her heart. Those who have worshipped false gods, or have participated in idol worship are not rescued from hell and instead remain there eternally. After the Intercession, life resumes, either in paradise or in hell.

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The Mahdi and ad-Dajjal
The coming of the Mahdi (also Mehdi or Mihdi and meaning "the guided one"), which precedes the Second Coming of Jesus, triggers the redemption of Islam and the defeat of its enemies. The exact nature of the Mahdi differs between Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims, but both agree that Jesus and the Mahdi work together to fight evil in the world and to cement justice on Earth.

"Even if the entire duration of the world´s existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left before Doomsday (Day of Judgment), Allah will expand that day to such a length of time, as to accommodate the kingdom of a person out of my Ahlul Bayt who will be called by my name. He will then fill out the earth with peace and justice as it will have been full of injustice and tyranny before then."

Sahih Tirmidhi, V2, P86, V9, P74-75.

The Mahdi comes from Mecca and rules from Damascus, Syria. Jesus will defeat ad-Dajjal (literally: liar; the false Messiah or antichrist,) and then shall live on Earth for many years. According to some traditions Jesus will get married and have a family, and then die. Throughout history many have claimed Mahdiship; most notably Syed Mohammad Jaunpuri, Siyyid Mírzá ´Alí-Muhammad, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Muhammad Ahmad, Mohammed bin Abdullah, and Juhayman ibn-Muhammad ibn-Sayf al-Utaibi.

The Dajjal is physically misshapen, and blind in one eye. He deceives the faithful, teaching them that Jannah is Jahannam and vice versa through his power to work miracles. Upon his head are the Arabic letters kaf, fa and ra (kafir). He will revive the dead, and claim to be a god. Some traditions of Islam relate that he will appear at Isfahan, and that he will rally Jews to his support. However, that is not necessarily a majority view.

Muhammad asked his followers to recite the first and last ten verses of Chapter ´The Cave´ as protection from the Dajjal. These ayat deal with the beliefs and activities of the Christian nations. He also taught his followers to pray, "O Allah! I seek refuge in Thee from the trial of the Dajjal." He also said, There is no tribulation greater than that of the Dajjal from the creation of Adam to the day of resurrection.

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Mark of the Beast
In the text, Signs of Qiyamah, it is redacted by Muhammad Ali Ibn Zubair Ali that after the arrival of the Enlightened One, Imam Mahdi, "the ground will cave in, fog or smoke will cover the skies for forty days (ayah). A night three nights long will follow the fog. After the night of three nights, the sun will rise in the west. The Beast of Earth shall emerge. The beast will talk to people and mark the faces of people. A breeze from the south shall cause sores in the armpits of Muslims which they will die from. The Qur´an will be lifted from the hearts of the people."

Afterwards, the Imam "... will create a world state ... He will teach you simple living and high thinking. With such a start he will establish an empire of Allah in this world. He will be the final demonstration and proof of Allah´s merciful wish to acquaint man with the right ways of life."
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So you see the mark of the beast is believed by the Muslims too and the Anti-Christ will be a Liar. (Bush)
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Here: Facts about the losers of Islam.

[link to factsaboutislam.r8.org]
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makes sense.

Whom he is opposing? The only two real rogue nations on earth.
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from Gaia man

saudi arabia , please =?
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When the King is gone, The Kingdom will fall.
He who hides will return. He will bring the Law of Allah. The Kingdom, will turn into The Republic of Islam after the revolution. The children of the old King will be killed or will flee. The American "friend" will be forced to leave the country, but will return. Not as a friend anymore. Many will fight the westerns.
The road is long and hard. The fight will end after the Ka´ba is destroyed. That will be close after the Vatican is destroyed.
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Could it be? Maytria??pennywise
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"The fight will end after the Ka´ba is destroyed."


What is Ka´ba?
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The Kaabah is a large black meteorite in a mosque in Mecca that is so important to moslems that they try to make a pilgrimage to see it at least once in their lives. Sounds like they would destroy the Vatican and then the Xtians would destroy the Kaabah. Boom. Two major religions up in smoke.
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OP, After reading the first paragraph of your post, I knew that it wasn´t talking about Osama. You should have too!!
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The answer is NO, but there is more.
Very bad neews for the Muslims.
Those stories, either you accept them integrally, or they have no meaning.
One essential element in the coming of the Mahadi is that he must arrive from the desert in plain view of everybody, on a white horse and with another guy, AT THE END OF A RAMADAN WITH TWO ECLYPSES, Moon and Sun.
Such a double eclypse happened on last ramadan, november 2004.
No Mahadi.
For the next chance they must wait another 5000 years.
Very good.
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DEBKA: BIN LADEN PLANNING TO COME INTO "BABYLON" ????



IF, IF, IF....the story below is true and indeed comes to past at this late hour...THEN...I personally believe that Bin Laden will turn out to be "THE MHADI" who is the "ISLAMIC MESSIAH" who will ride in FROM THE DESERT "ON THE WHITE HORSE" and be FIRST....... the antichrist...AND LATER..... THE BEAST !!!! THIS MAN....will be the ONE and ONLY who will be able to handle, quell and subdue the maniacal Islamic Jihahist enemy against the nation of Israel....right at the beginning of the Tribulation...bringing with him, his deceptive covenant for ´peace and security´ !!! Because this event is planned for NOW....I FEEL IT IS TOO CONINCIDENTAL NOT TO BE PROPHETICALLY PROFOUND !!!! M ]

Osama bin Laden Looks Like Heading for Iraq(ASSYRIA/BABYLON)

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 8, 2005, 11:52 PM (GMT+02:00)
Coded electronic signals bandied in recent days among al Qaeda Middle Eastern elements across secret Internet sites all carry the same message: the supreme leader, Osama bin Laden, has come out of hiding in Afghanistan and set out, or is about to set out, for Iraq. This is the sense gained from this correspondence by DEBKAfile’s exclusive counter-terror sources.

Some of the signals schedule his date of arrival as the second half of September when Ramadan is estimated to begin.

His arrival in Iraq is planned to signal the launching of the biggest offensive his organization has ever launched against the US army. If these signals are a true representation of bin Laden’s plans and not a red herring, what is planned is a dramatic landmark battle in the global war on terror and the Iraqi conflict.

The signals cap a secret exchange of messages in recent weeks in which al Qaeda’s Iraq commander Abu Musab al –Zarqawi attempted to persuade bin Laden to leave Afghanistan and take command of the Ramadan offensive in Iraq. Zarqawi argued the importance of his transferring from Afghanistan to Iraq on two grounds: to boost al Qaeda’s standing as it embarks on an “offensive whose scale and importance rival the September 2001 operation.” and in the interests of his own personal safety.

Zarqawi stressed, according to our sources, that bin Laden will be safer in Iraq than in Afghanistan – an indication of Jordanian terrorist’s inflated self-confidence.

DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s experts have authenticated the messages as emanating from Zarqawi. Their secret contents have begun to leak out and set up a huge flap in al Qaeda networks, cells and affiliates in many countries and talk of “A NEW JIHAD TO HONOR THE LEADER.”

If bin Laden was indeed swayed by Zarqawi and aims to reach Iraq by mid-September, he has little time to lose and must already have set out on his winding secret journey, or be about to depart. One of his options would be the long way round through Pakistani and Iranian Baluchistan and across the border into Iraq.

But there is an alternative route from Pakistan which he might find easier. DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources revealed last May that al Qaeda had established a new marine base in the remote Gawatar Bay, a Persian Gulf inlet down the middle of which runs the Pakistani-Iranian border. Al Qaeda operatives are known to be active on both shores – on the Pakistani side, they use as sanctuaries the Baluchi villages strung along the River Dasht which empties into the divided bay; on the Iranian side, the move around the Baluchi port of Chah-Bahar (Bandar Beheshti).

From both these places, al Qaeda has for months been running a sea corridor of smugglers’ vessels into the southern Iraqi port of Basra. There, they clandestinely drop arms and fighters and collect injured men on the return trip for treatment in Pakistan.

Al Qaeda’s marine traffic from Baluchistan was first revealed by DEBKA-Net-Weekly 211 on June 24.



The al Qaeda leader may choose to enter Iraq by sea rather than take the long, overland route, in which case his people will have arrived at Gawatar Bay and making preparations for his journey. He would have reason to believe it is safer. Intelligence of al Qaeda’s Baluchi sea smugglers has reached the American and British naval forces operating in the northern reaches of the Persian Gulf, the Shatt al Arb, Basra and the southern Iraqi oil terminals. Yet neither has been able to put a stop to the traffic.

Bin Laden has proved himself an undercover escape artist par excellence. In the five years since he escaped the Bora Bora siege, he and his party, including his close tribe, have managed to flit from place to place undetected - even when his pursuers were close and watching out for him.

IF HE DOES HE DOES MAKE IT TO IRAQ (BABYLON),THE PUBLIC AIRING OF HIS PRESENCE IN THE LAND OF THE TWO RIVERS, would have a radical impact on the nature of the Iraq conflict. No longer a mere guerrilla campaign, it would escalate to a full-scale fight to the finish against al Qaeda in Iraq, analogous to the all-out hostilities in Afghanistan.

Bin Laden’s organization has begun referring to the Iraq conflict in these ultimate terms.
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The MOST IMPORTANT thing YOU don´t know is that Osama Bin-Laden has been DEAD, DEAD as in NOT LIVING, for a long time. WTF do you think Bushturd "isn´t concerned with Bin-Laden"?
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I am glad the muslims think that Christ is a messiah, hopefully when he comes back he can set them right on a few things.
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yeah and I´m the pope.
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It can´t be Osama, Osama is dead, prove me wrong.
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"The MOST IMPORTANT thing YOU don´t know is that Osama Bin-Laden has been DEAD, DEAD as in NOT LIVING, for a long time. WTF do you think Bushturd "isn´t concerned with Bin-Laden"?"

Said it for me.
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Sounds like they would destroy the Vatican and then the Xtians would destroy the Kaabah. Boom. Two major religions up in smoke.

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Nonsense. Most Christians have nothing to do with the Vatican.

Talk about stupid!
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I heard that the Mahdi was supposed to be very young. For this reason, many thought that Osama´s son was ripe for this position.
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I am glad the muslims think that Christ is a messiah, hopefully when he comes back he can set them right on a few things.

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Muslims do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
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The Dajjal is physically misshapen, and blind in one eye. He deceives the faithful, teaching them that Jannah is Jahannam and vice versa through his power to work miracles. Upon his head are the Arabic letters kaf, fa and ra (kafir). He will revive the dead, and claim to be a god. Some traditions of Islam relate that he will appear at Isfahan, and that he will rally Jews to his support. However, that is not necessarily a majority view.
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I have read up on the Dajjal some. He will have red hair - one eye, is a hunchback.

He is also a ´Trinitarian´ meaning he believes in what Christians call the Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - three persons and one God.
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