Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,459 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 2,210,027
Pageviews Today: 3,034,320Threads Today: 666Posts Today: 13,844
11:18 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Illinois trolls for home schooled children

 
mopar28m
Lev. 23:23-25

User ID: 1264587
United States
02/13/2011 01:01 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Illinois trolls for home schooled children
[link to biggovernment.com]

Recently Illinois Senator Ed Maloney (D) introduced SB136 which would require “the parents or legal guardians of children attending non-public schools, a defined term, or private or parochial schools to annually register their children with the State Board of Education, in conformance with procedures prescribed by the State Board of Education.”



Basically homeschoolers and anyone else who has deemed the public education system a failure would have to register their children with the State, since apparently Senator Maloney believes “that since the State was responsible for the education of our children, the State should know who was being homeschooled,” according to Pastor James McDonald who met with the Senator along with several homeschooling advocates.

I hate to burst the Senator’s progressive utopian bubble, but as Pastor McDonald points out “in the eyes of most home educators, the responsibility to ensure our children receive a competent education belonged to parents, not the State.” I don’t think registering children, like licensing a dog, was exactly what Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he envisioned public education.

,Jefferson trusted the people closest to the issue to care most for the outcomes. Regarding education he stated in a letter to Joseph Cabell, “But if it is believed that these elementary schools will be better managed by the Governor and Council, the commissioners of the literary fund, or any other general authority of the government, than by the parents within each ward, it is a belief against all experience.”

[snip]
vaccinefreehealth.spam

vaccinefreehealth@hushmail.com

Racin​g to end vaccinations.
Karu

User ID: 826286
United States
02/13/2011 01:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Illinois trolls for home schooled children
snip:

Homeschool leaders met with Sen. Maloney recently, but he has refused to withdraw his bill. In fact, he plans to amend it so children in institutional private schools are exempt from registering--so it would impact only homeschoolers.

He also plans to amend the bill to require families to register with the regional office of education rather than the state Department of Education. Obviously, this makes no meaningful difference.

On Feb. 8, the Illinois Review quoted Sen. Maloney as admitting "he doesn't understand" why homeschoolers are so opposed to SB 136. A big crowd at the hearing this Tuesday may help him understand!

Right now, Illinois homeschools are not required to register because they are classified as private schools. Many other states likewise do not require homeschoolers to register, including New Jersey, Indiana, Oklahoma, Missouri, Alabama, Michigan, Texas, etc.

There is a common myth that Illinois homeschools are unregulated. While Illinois homeschools don't waste time processing bureaucratic red tape, they must comply with significant substantive mandates, including the requirement that they teach the branches of education taught to children of corresponding age and grade in the public schools, that they teach in the English language, and, if challenged, meet the burden of showing that they have in good faith provided an adequate course of instruction in the prescribed branches of learning.

This sensible combination of no red tape plus meaningful mandates has protected freedom in Illinois and produced outstanding academic results.

SB 136 would give the Illinois Department of Education literally unlimited power to dictate what information homeschoolers must submit. Since the Department is composed exclusively of staff who are appointed or hired, rather than elected, they have little or no
incentive to respond to the voice of citizens. In other states, when education departments have been given power to act against citizens' wishes, they have sometimes brushed aside overwhelming opposition and done as they pleased to homeschoolers.

[link to www.hslda.org (secure)]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1253704
United States
02/13/2011 01:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Illinois trolls for home schooled children
.
... prayers to you Illinois home educators! ...
.
... we escaped MN and fled to WI when our children got beyond grade school ...
.
... and when the children reached 18 we celebrated! ...
.
... really stressful with the encroachment of the state! ...
.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1144159
United States
02/13/2011 01:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Illinois trolls for home schooled children
Very interesting.

I think one should tag this as "Illinois SB 136" so that it can be distinguished from say, "Kansas SB 136". Just saying, it would be a decent enought thing to attach a State's Name to their own bills... when we all go to discuss it. Just a thought.

Perhaps even better would be, "Purposed Illinois SB 136".

The State does in fact have a responsibility to see to it that all the children that the Parent's of that State have entrusted to its schools receive a top notch education. But that is where the State's responsibility should end.

The State by setting up and funding Libraries for instance works under a 'general well-fare' clause, in that "private schoolers", "public schoolers", and even "home-schoolers" have access to the resources of such State (and even County funded) libraries and other educational materials... as does the Private Individual.

I find it interesting that the most private of all schooling, that done by the family at home, now has to be called by the term "Home Schooling" because the term "Private Schooling" was already long ago co-opted. The so called "Private Schools" should really be termed as "Commerical Schools" or even "Industrial Schools", and Parochial Schools should really be relabeled as "Religious Schools"... but alas, I am not in control of the dictionaries and public lexicons being used by those that come up with such terms and their definitions for public consumption and circulation.

There is a difference in concept and scope better the Federal Government and that of the STATES.

The registering of our children as to what sort of school they are in is just another aspect of the "States power to call a census"... yet it is more than mere head counting.

Again the entire issue falls under the domain of the 10th Amendment. Most often the phrase, ".. or to the People" is not megaphoned to the skies when one hears the discussions of the 10th. The STATE government only has that grant of Power explictly granted to it by the People of that State as found in the State's Constitution... of course there are also Prohbitions upon that State government laid down in the US Constitution as well.

Not being a 'resident citizen' of the State of Illinois, I can only hope and pray that the 'resident citizens' of that State see to it that these forms of bills are very closely examined and considered piece by piece as to the unintended consequences upon the life, liberties, and pursuit of happiness of those 'resident citizens'.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1141935
Canada
02/13/2011 01:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Illinois trolls for home schooled children
.
... prayers to you Illinois home educators! ...
.
... we escaped MN and fled to WI when our children got beyond grade school ...
.
... and when the children reached 18 we celebrated! ...
.
... really stressful with the encroachment of the state! ...
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253704

They always target these kids for removal. It's becoming a huge issue in many states.

News








We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!