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Tramadol-Ultram is terrible

 
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I live a life where I have out lived my usefullness. I am married and have three kids, one grown and just married and two still 11 and 12 to raise. I got my neck broken on a oil rig years ago and have had surgery's on it three times. I Have have had the worst pain and headache for a love time, to the point I am sick of it. I see a pain doctor and I now take 5 methadone and 7-10 loratab 10Mg a day. I was just told my liver is starting to show signs of trouble. I am in a bad place, I hurt so bad and need the meds but at the same time they are killing me. I didn't start out on so much but as the years go by it takes more and more to get the same kind of help from it.
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I'm so sorry.
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I live a life where I have out lived my usefullness. I am married and have three kids, one grown and just married and two still 11 and 12 to raise. I got my neck broken on a oil rig years ago and have had surgery's on it three times. I Have have had the worst pain and headache for a love time, to the point I am sick of it. I see a pain doctor and I now take 5 methadone and 7-10 loratab 10Mg a day. I was just told my liver is starting to show signs of trouble. I am in a bad place, I hurt so bad and need the meds but at the same time they are killing me. I didn't start out on so much but as the years go by it takes more and more to get the same kind of help from it.
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Marijuana + Hot water bottle + acupuncture. For quick relief.

Long term would be too do your own research on herbal treatments/vitamins/enzymes that help with your condition.
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This stuff is so weak it should be given to children for minor cuts and bruises.

If you're a man you'll snort oxycontin or even better roxicontin. Try an stay awake doing that with 1/4 of a 80mg pill. Preferable to heroin because you know how much you're getting, and that it isn't cut with god knows what.

If your doctor gives you some weak shit and labeling you as a drug abuser it's time to find Dr. Feelgood. There is always one in your town, just ask around.

Doc writes script 4 xanax bars a day along with adderall and seroquel. Most of the time just replace seroquel with oxycontin.


Good luck.
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No kidding saying "Tramadol-Ultram" is terrible is such a blanket statement

We have no idea who you are, how old you are, whether you maintained your body over the years.

Blanket statements like these ruin good things for other people because the sheeple will thoughtlessly agree.

Well no shit taking X drug for X amount of years is bad for you.

If conditions persist you should find better/alternative treatment on your own.

Your Dr. is just making a pay check I can't see him working round the clock to help you or anybody else out.

If you want help you gotta do it yourself.

It's not an attack on you, but you guys seem WAAAYY too trusting. Trust is a good thing but when it comes to your health you seriously need to weigh your research backed opinion vs the Dr.
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Plus.

All synthetic drugs are crap.

Look at methylphenidate (Ritalin)
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stay well away from that shit,real "LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS"stuff.
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ultram does nothing for pain for me. makes me itch like crazy though..
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I've been taking Tramadol (with Tramadol ER at night) and Flexeril and enteric aspirin for several months for a herniated disk. No relief from Percocet or oral corticosteroids and Naprosen is too hard on my stomach. Now taking less Tramadol than at onset of injury. I have been able to go for 4-5 days without the meds and without experiencing any withdrawl symptoms, but with reduced daily activities that might provoke back pain. When trying to return to moderate activities, I need the meds for the pain.
TENS has also been very helpful for acute episodes and for moderate-severe chronic pain.

I am not a licensed medical professional. The above should not be construed to be medical advice. You should consult with a medical professional for any medical advice.
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I have chronic pain. Tramadol used to work for me but nowadays it does nothing for my pain and then gives me nausea the following day. I prefer opioids but doctors are less willing to prescribe them--other than when I lived in Spain and a doctor told me flat out to stop messing about with crap that doesn't work and to take codeine when I need it. He said that it was far less harmful than any of the synthetics and that he thought that I was intelligent enough to not become addicted.

What really works for my type of pain is deep massage and osteopathy but I don't have the means to pay for them and the medical system prefers that you take their drugs rather than deal with the root cause of the problem.
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Tramal kicked me hard with my teeth pain.
After 100mg i was flying and after some hours i had to puke.
Terrible ^^

I suggest you go with Diclofenac, mutch less sideeffects, but everyone its own painkiller.
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All opiates make you puke.

It triggers a switch in your brain to do so.

No matter the amount or drug.
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Well I am off the opiates, have been for a while now. I take tramodol 50 mg. I use to take 8 a day now I am down to 5 or 6 a day. I have tons of nodes all over my body very painful also the on both hips on the sides. I can only more or less just sleep on my right side and on my back. I toss and turn.
If you sit by me you will hear my bones snap crackle pop.

These nodes are very hard and hurt some the size of a quarter if not bigger, we have two areas of black mold in the house. I would just like take a break from this atmosphere here, I know my whole disposition would get better. So much mold here, wet and damp, don't like cold.

My son was a real terrible addict, I talked him into going to this doctor and advised maybe if he tries the tramodol he might be able to get off of everything else. So he went to that doctor and he ended up putting him on methadone. Which that was the worst mistake ever. I quit going to him he knows I was PO, he knows that I have been working my own program.
See the hardest thing I have ever faced is when one wants to turn there life around but doesn't leave their sick inviornment its harder, but yet I am still doing good, but its
doing something to my spirit.

See people are sick as their secrets, Addiction has a very ugly face. I even dream about just living alone with my granddaughter and give her the best up bringing I can possibly do. I have it in me. But something I never did is move on with my life, but its a sad shame that money has to be the issue for me to raise my frequencies. Everytime I have went a way for a couple of days my whole disposition changes.

I even think living in this swamp area is not good for me either as far as pain. But I have come a long way from 8 tramodol to 5 or six a day. I can't wait till I am down to 4 and then two, then I will have the last demon gone, besides being an emotional eater, which wow thats gone too.

But I want to thank starfleet in working withme, I know they are, because I feel it, my body is changing.

But in order for one to change it is imperative to leave that sick enviornment, ( the enviornment where it lacks disipline, divine love, hopes and dreams, and a house that is divided) a house that is divided just cannot stand. And I am living proof, it will make one sick truly it will.

If there was a place that I could join my granddaughter and I were it is a positive establishment to teach her all the skills I would be there right along with her doing it with her. Oh my goodness if you could see this girl draw she is truly an artist. And sooooooo bright, has spiritual insight she is deep ver deep. I prayed to God years back and I was lonely and I asked for a grandchild and I got one.

Her name is Kaydence Reign and she does reign.....she is my rythmic beat, she is made of gold but she does deserve the best...I wish I could give it to her. Her and I lived all alone for a year and she told me how much fun it was jsut her and I living together.
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yea... i used to buy shitloads of that stuff. loved it. for me it was eight solid hours or more of synthetic opioid bliss. Got to the the point where I could take 900-1000mg in one sitting. Then the brain zaps started and I quit doing that shit.
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well with me opiates always made me want to clean house, you know I know alot of people like myself in the past use to enjoy cleaning house, my floors would be so clean a baby could crawl on the floor. I was what you would term a functional addict. No one knew that I was because it didn't show.

Many people want to judge people for taking pain medicine. You know it hurts most people with pain, get a kick just to clean house. When I was on the pain medicine I could even think better, does that make sense? I could organize everything, I could focus what needed cleared out.

Which I think I might be suffereing from some chemical imbalance.

But back to my granddaughter is I feel that she deserves both worlds. If I could influence her with my qualities she will benefit, and when she sees her Papaw she will benefit with him. We are two opposites, he is with no boundaries as I am with boundries. And poor girl is caught in the middle.

But her real mothers pain is very deep, she has never bonded with her mother or father, I tired giving her all the love I oculd for 10 years only to be spat at in the face. So I take my past and learn from it.

But the second time around now with my granddaughter I cringe with the fact that round two is coming up with this generation. Dont want to make the same mistakes twice.
Yeshua/Christ Jesus/Esu Sananda/Christ Michael Aton/CM/ATON was Jesus Christ oversoul as he walked the earth,set up the Kingdom of Heaven within. To get to Father/Mother God is through your own Heart Portal, we have been gifted the HOly Spirit/HigherSelf as our guide.

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Love yourself, and your world will heal around you like the waves in the ocean. When ONe unites with the Holy Spirit/HigherSelf, it becomes your mate, you are inlove with the Divine within, then comes the relationship for he is the direct line to Father Source so you experience that connection, so then it becomes your rule of measure as to who knows the FAther, The kingdom is within...
The Path to the New World is guilt, shame, and regret free.

Dear Father Mother God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can (Me) and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM getting better everyday. Truly.......


God's dream is our Destiny...Light and Life. We can do it.
Spirituality + Technology= Balance into Light and Life.

A personal decree " That I will be harmless to myself and others"

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Wait till you get itchy legs trying to get off the stuff. Nightmare.
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If people's spirit are being judged by their experiences and drugs then maybe some higher evolved beings need to come down her and try this life out too. Becuase I feel that there are highly beautiful people on drugs that are the most miss understood people in the world, if they could be given the opportunity to prove this fact and with God on their side nothing could come between them or God.

Many years ago when I was 17 and my husband was their for me he rescued me from a very addictive home only to go into another addictive home. I knew and had the vibes "do not walk down that isle with him" for your life will surely suffer, but I did it anyway because it was a way out of my sadden home life.

So many people judge too harshley, all my life I always walked searching for God in the eyes of stranger, always been searching for him in everyone. And a voice always told me you never know who you might meet for we will entertain an Angel un aware.

I don't care if a person is showing me the worse or if someone says that person is bad. All people are good, they just need to remember that goodness is the only ingredient to heal thyself. They have to beleive that.

See when I forget to thank my Father, it is when I see something in myself that I am ashamed of and I don't want to let him see my pain.

But crying is my only release of releasing all this pain.

Some may wonder why I struggle so, but if one has lived their whole lives in addiction, they would know my pain the worlds pain, we all are in pain of a never ending seeking to gratify our senses. I know that pain.

But now I am at a place where I could dream of that possiblity to help someone heal than I have done what I came here to do. For I have suffered right along with you for I know your pain.
Yeshua/Christ Jesus/Esu Sananda/Christ Michael Aton/CM/ATON was Jesus Christ oversoul as he walked the earth,set up the Kingdom of Heaven within. To get to Father/Mother God is through your own Heart Portal, we have been gifted the HOly Spirit/HigherSelf as our guide.

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Thread: Starships above my home

Love yourself, and your world will heal around you like the waves in the ocean. When ONe unites with the Holy Spirit/HigherSelf, it becomes your mate, you are inlove with the Divine within, then comes the relationship for he is the direct line to Father Source so you experience that connection, so then it becomes your rule of measure as to who knows the FAther, The kingdom is within...
The Path to the New World is guilt, shame, and regret free.

Dear Father Mother God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can (Me) and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM getting better everyday. Truly.......


God's dream is our Destiny...Light and Life. We can do it.
Spirituality + Technology= Balance into Light and Life.

A personal decree " That I will be harmless to myself and others"

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yea... i used to buy shitloads of that stuff. loved it. for me it was eight solid hours or more of synthetic opioid bliss. Got to the the point where I could take 900-1000mg in one sitting. Then the brain zaps started and I quit doing that shit.
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You do realise 700mg in one sitting is considered a lethal dose. I was taking 1600 to 1800 per day.

1mg of Subutex SNORTED will soon get you off Tramadol.
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Sounds like opiate-induced hyperalgesia, but it's usually associated only with long-term use of opioids. Have you been on other opioids (codeine, for instance) before you got this prescription?

Your body could also be having an abnormal reaction to opioids. My wife can't use paracetamol (non-opioid; it just doesn't do anything for her) or codeine (makes her nauseous even after the initial phase). It's just the way her body works.
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Tramadolum belongs to a group of so called narcotic-analgesics. That is why you are not allowed to drive under its influence. Also, it is not designed for all kinds of pains, it is completely ineffective for certain types. As is the case with most synthetic opiates, it is highly addictive and causes many unpleasant withdrawal symptoms, even after a very limited period of usage. One of its side effects are also headaches, especially after high dosages.

Stay away from it.
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Oh I love it. It was the only painkiller that made me not to care about my pains. The pains where still there but i just did not care. I was on200mg in the morning and 200mg at night for 6 month. Then i met a kiropraktor who treated me 3 times a week for 1year and now i maby need a tramadol 100mg once a month or less.Its not so nice when you quit, but hey what to do when you are in hell and wants to die because the pain is just beyond torture. Its god for taking you from a to b but dont stay on them longer than you need.
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Oh I love it. It was the only painkiller that made me not to care about my pains. The pains where still there but i just did not care. I was on200mg in the morning and 200mg at night for 6 month. Then i met a kiropraktor who treated me 3 times a week for 1year and now i maby need a tramadol 100mg once a month or less.Its not so nice when you quit, but hey what to do when you are in hell and wants to die because the pain is just beyond torture. Its god for taking you from a to b but dont stay on them longer than you need.
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They still dare to prescribe narcotic painkillers over there? Here the doctors are too afraid of being listed as Dr. Feelgoods and, unless you've got a loose limb or a terminal phase cancer, they keep peddling paracetamol and ibuprofen.
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tramadol hydrochloride and grapefruit juice!!

liver does not breakdown tramadol until it has finished with the grapefruit. allowing the blood level of tramadol to increse.

have fun but be careful!
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Also works with xanax and valium. Have fun and act like you have some sense :)
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Years ago, I was prescribed ultram for right "shoulder pain". I was in my early 20's & didn't know what the pain was actually from until later. It turns out the pain was from an ulcerated gallbladder which was full of stones. The Dr. Was treating it as shoulder pain/injury. I was even having physical therapy until my health worsened alarmingly. I was the one who figured out what it probably was and asked for an ultrasound. Dr has treated me like a hypochondriac until he saw the readings; then he was like: surgeon time...

So when I take a new medication, I only take half. I do this with all medication. Iam the kind of person who only takes something if I really need it, and I am able to keep doses low. I can be trusted with safekeeping of opiates and such. One thing I hate with a neurotic passion is vomiting, so drugs/alcohol needs to be kept in moderation. Don't get me wrong, I have a pill or drink every now and then, but I am always a lightweight. If you think your value as a person is based on how many drugs you can 'function' on then we won't get along well. I believe impulse control and ego moderation is the major flaw with most humans.

Anyhow, I took half of an ultram (the 1st on I had ever taken), and it was like some of you said, got sweaty, itchy burning sensations, dizzy, fuzzy headed, and felt like my ears had been boxed. Strange sensations all over, pain seemed to get worse. I am a female, and I started violently cramping and bleeding off schedule in reaction to the second half, taken the next morning. I felt weird, like my body was a poorly fitted suit. Pain became worse, and more generalized. I tried to call the Dr after the second dose, but found I lacked the coordination to dial the phone. I was scared because i was starting to wheeze a little.I found I couldn't even make a simple call, or control an old cordless phone. I felt like I was burning all over, and my skin was raised in hives all over my body, which I had never experienced before. I was puffy too. So I staggered outside and down the front steps hoping someone would see me, since I lived in a close knit community in the city. Luckily, my friend/ neighbor was outside and came up to me and exclaimed that, " you look terrible, are yo ok?" She took me to the emergency room, where I was treated for an allergic reaction. Since then, it is on every medical form I fill out as an allergy. The plus side, is that allergy prevents them from prescribing other synthetic opiates, and weird drugs like toreadol. When I remind them of the allergy, which they have a bad habit of overlooking in the interest of "preventing addiction", I get demerol or the real deal.
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Tramadol works great for my pain. Only real risk it brings is possibility of seizures if you use too much. No itchiness -- unlike the true opiates.

Here's a really interesting thing -- 50mg tramadol about 0.5-1 hours prior to sex is an effective treatment for premature ejaculation. See [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] :

RESULTS:

Fifty-seven (89%) completed the whole treatment schedule. The mean intravaginal ejaculatory latency time after tramadol and placebo increased from 19 and 21 seconds to approximately 243 and 34 seconds, respectively (P < 0.001). The mean weekly intercourse episodes increased from pretreatment values of 1.07 and 1.1 to 2.3 and 1.3, for tramadol and placebo, respectively (P < 0.05). Baseline mean intercourse satisfaction domain values of International Index of Erectile Function 10 and 11 reached to 14 and 10 at 8-week treatment in groups 1 and 2, respectively (P < 0.05). There was no withdrawal caused by adverse effects with tramadol or placebo, but more adverse events were associated with tramadol treatment (P < 0.05).
CONCLUSIONS:

Tramadol seems to provide significantly better results in terms of intravaginal ejaculatory latency time and intercourse satisfaction versus placebo. Further studies are required to draw final conclusions on the efficacy of this drug in premature ejaculation.
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if your on an opiate an take tramadol it will send you into withdrawl,make sure you aint taken codeiene or any opiate if you take tramadol. and yes they are last i sacked them on day one same reason
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Actually Tramadol is being used to help opiate withdrawal symptoms. If you are trying to get off narcotics tramadol will help tremendously. It does have dual purpose though. It is a mild pain reliever and anti depressant combined. You don't want to take in high doses for sure.

On another note, I would use narcotics any day over the deadly over the counter meds like ibuprofen and Tylenol. Those are what is killing people way more. Liver and kidney damage.
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Tramadol is fun as fuck just don't take over 400mg you will die.
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So, anybody else have terrible side effects from this crappy drug? I was only given 50 mg, once I took it, my pain got worse. Stupid me, I thought my condition was getting worse. So I took more, what a bad decision.
My abdomen and lungs starting hurting something terrible. I couldn't go to sleep because of the fear of losing consciousness or dying. I literally felt like I was going to stop breathing. I finally realized wth was going on and stopped. 1 week after stopping, I still have chest pain and am kind of twitchy.
These synthetic narcotics are crap,..I've heard some people do well with them. But they are still really addictive. If your Dr. trys to give Tramadol in lieu of morphine, don't do it. Messes with the serotonin too much.
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it made my pain worse too and had strange effects You must use ONLY those pain meds which NATURE herself has made. The body is not accostomed to handling laboratory constructions. Morphine is one of nature's true pain relief drugs and it gave me back my life. I have been on morphine now for 13 years. I do have medical reasons for my severe chronic pain. It does not muck serotonin. Unless one is one of the rare people allergic to it, morphine does not muck anything. It does not harm the liver or kidneys.

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if your on an opiate an take tramadol it will send you into withdrawl,make sure you aint taken codeiene or any opiate if you take tramadol. and yes they are last i sacked them on day one same reason
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Actually Tramadol is being used to help opiate withdrawal symptoms. If you are trying to get off narcotics tramadol will help tremendously. It does have dual purpose though. It is a mild pain reliever and anti depressant combined. You don't want to take in high doses for sure.

On another note, I would use narcotics any day over the deadly over the counter meds like ibuprofen and Tylenol. Those are what is killing people way more. Liver and kidney damage.
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To get off oopieates, one should not cold turkey them. they should gradually withdraw over weeks. Tiny amounts every few days. works for those trying to stop smoking too.. Smoke say 20ciggies a day for a week, 19 a day for a week.

Do this to get off any drug producing withdrawal if you have on it chronically. This is how I got off Klonopin that I was given for restless legs. A much better doctor that knew that most of restless legs is mineral deficiency and usually magnesium, discovered I was terribly deficient in magnesium so natuarally when that proved to be the cause I did not want to continue on klonopin. Because I have MS and also stenosis of my spine, causing pressure on nerves, the doc assumed my restless legs were nerve related. They were not.

I did attempt to withdraw the klonopin to rapidly and went thru hell so went back on it, and then dropped 1/4 tab a week at a time until I was off the stuff. by that I mean 1/4 tab of my daily dose for a whole week, like the cigarette example above. I only used it at bedtime ever, and never had a known addiction to it. No craving, no increasing dose etc. I think I was on 3 at bedtime, may have been 4, but I don't know what size of tablet , its been too many years, but even after I was off in about 3 months, I had minor symptoms for another 3, so the process was totally 6 months until I was normal again.
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11/20/2012 11:46 AM
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Re: Tramadol-Ultram is terrible
I don't mind them, they do give me a bit of headache and make me twitch like a crackhead though.
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11/20/2012 11:51 AM
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Re: Tramadol-Ultram is terrible
I've been on tramadol for a few months for ankle pain. It seems to be working well. When I told someone in the pharma field I was on it he told me it is essentially made of PLASTIC.

Is this true? Also, is tramadol considered an opiate or not?
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