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My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday... | |
| ItsPat Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1170365  United States02/15/2011 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked. Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was. When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind". We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out. After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.  Any thoughts? |
| Accidental Stoner User ID: 1191993  Finland02/15/2011 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Over here, they are much more secretive about it, it seems. Just no way you would ever see any of them wearing their symbols on their clothes. Haha - but where I live, the official town logo itself is a classic old Faith-Hope-Charity variant :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1124843 United States02/15/2011 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked. Quoting: ItsPatNow, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was. When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind". We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out. After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation. Any thoughts? Lots of people are Masons and they aren't all evil. My Grandfather was a Mason. No big deal. |
| ItsPat (OP) User ID: 1170365 United States02/15/2011 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked. Quoting: ItsPatNow, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was. When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind". We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out. After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation. Any thoughts? Lots of people are Masons and they aren't all evil. My Grandfather was a Mason. No big deal. Definitely not suggesting Evil...but I'd like to know more about it -- and do you really know what your Grandfather was doing also? After all, why so secretive? Just curious. |
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| ItsPat (OP) User ID: 1170365 United States02/15/2011 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Masons don't know shit about what goes on at the highest levels of such societies. It's like your neighborhood priest doesn't know shit about what goes on in the Vatican. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262675They are "useful idiots". Yeah, it is sort of what I had in mind as well. I've read enough to understand not many people realize they are being used these days. |
| Accidental Stoner User ID: 1191993 Finland02/15/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evil? Hmm. Getting each other not-so-fair advantages behind locked doors...or in, let's say, court? You bet your sweet ass. Is there, btw, one single Finnish chief newspaper editor who is not a freemason? And how the hell, in a so called "democracy", can there be people on high official posts, at the same time being members of secret societies, abiding by secret rules..? Shame on us for letting it go on and on. Only people questioning it were right wing military types in the 1930's. Since then - nothing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266865 United States02/15/2011 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Accidental Stoner User ID: 1191993 Finland02/15/2011 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know you are foolish slaves and need guidance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266865  Among us slaves, it's either you've got something to hide - or you don't. Mason or boyscout, slave or king - there's still only one (1) way to build human integrity. |
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| Pea Vine User ID: 694444 United States02/15/2011 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know you are foolish slaves and need guidance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266865Among us slaves, it's either you've got something to hide - or you don't. Mason or boyscout, slave or king - there's still only one (1) way to build human integrity. I'm gonna go out on a limb here..."by living your life as a example?" "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| ItsPat (OP) User ID: 1170365 United States02/15/2011 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what OP. You must be a conspiracy noob. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259318Definitely not. Just not spewing a thousand conspiracies your way. Wanted to get more thoughts. It is not normal for one to slip on the Illuminati stuff...hence, my post. |
| Accidental Stoner User ID: 1191993 Finland02/15/2011 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258831  Canada02/15/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eventually you get so curious, tired of the disinformation everywhere, that you walk into a Lodge and find out the truth....things are not as they seem Membership is increasing for people under 30, your boyfriend should join if he thinks the time is right The misinformation/conspiracies or connections with the 'illuminati' work to keep the secrets guarded....if you are looking for the 'bad guys,' look elsewhere. I asked a Mason today about Hitler, and all he said Hitler put Masons and Jews in the camps because he was frightened they would over throw him |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266646 United States02/15/2011 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked. Quoting: ItsPatNow, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was. When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind". We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out. After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation. Any thoughts? Holy shite this was posted at various times over the past 2 years, I think we found one of the UK psychiatrist. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258831 Canada02/15/2011 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 989297 United States02/15/2011 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Masons don't know shit about what goes on at the highest levels of such societies. It's like your neighborhood priest doesn't know shit about what goes on in the Vatican. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262675They are "useful idiots". Exactly. Speaking to a 3rd degree mason about what is behind masonry is like speaking to a 3rd grader about the true purpose of 'public education'. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266263 Canada02/15/2011 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what OP. You must be a conspiracy noob. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259318Definitely not. Just not spewing a thousand conspiracies your way. Wanted to get more thoughts. It is not normal for one to slip on the Illuminati stuff...hence, my post. I have a friend that I have known for over 40 years, and he was an Illuminatus long before he became a 33rd degree Freemason. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212709 Canada02/15/2011 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Mason. Inactive for several years now, but once a Mason, always a Mason... You can't "unlearn" it. There's a reason they can't tell you the secrets, and you have to become a Mason to learn them. It's not so much that they won't tell you, it's that they literally can't. It's like explaining a beautiful sunset to a blind person. It's not the same thing as seeing it. You can look up all the rituals and stuff that goes on online, it's pretty much accurate. But it doesn't mean anything unless you experience it. This is what I mean, it's hard for me to even explain the difference here. Some of the "mind blowing" stuff includes seeing ordinary men, that you may even know outside the lodge, do some extraordinary things. Men that you might have considered to be simple will impart some pretty esoteric knowledge of subjects you probably never heard of. Anyhow, as in any large organization, there are also going to be a few idiots, which explains why I'm inactive now. Some lodges are genuinely interested and involved in more education and advancing, depending on your jurisdiction you can go on to Royal Arch, or Templar Knights, or Shriners if you're interested. Other lodges aren't that interested but do more community service stuff. All lodges have some charity and community service component. There are a few lodges that are simply all about keeping up with who's in the hospital, who died and trying to raise enough money to keep going, and aren't interested in new people except for their money, nor are the interested in masonic education. That's the type I left. All I can say is it was a positive part of my life for a few years, all this conspiracy stuff is crap, nobody gets a break anymore just because they're a Mason, nobody really cares if you are a Mason outside the lodge either. It all depends on your lodge - some are crappy old men's clubs and others can be really interesting. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222831  Australia02/15/2011 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked. Quoting: ItsPatNow, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was. When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind". We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out. After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation. Any thoughts? stonermason |
| Pea Vine User ID: 694444 United States02/15/2011 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Mason. Inactive for several years now, but once a Mason, always a Mason... You can't "unlearn" it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212709There's a reason they can't tell you the secrets, and you have to become a Mason to learn them. It's not so much that they won't tell you, it's that they literally can't. It's like explaining a beautiful sunset to a blind person. It's not the same thing as seeing it. You can look up all the rituals and stuff that goes on online, it's pretty much accurate. But it doesn't mean anything unless you experience it. This is what I mean, it's hard for me to even explain the difference here. Some of the "mind blowing" stuff includes seeing ordinary men, that you may even know outside the lodge, do some extraordinary things. Men that you might have considered to be simple will impart some pretty esoteric knowledge of subjects you probably never heard of. Anyhow, as in any large organization, there are also going to be a few idiots, which explains why I'm inactive now. Some lodges are genuinely interested and involved in more education and advancing, depending on your jurisdiction you can go on to Royal Arch, or Templar Knights, or Shriners if you're interested. Other lodges aren't that interested but do more community service stuff. All lodges have some charity and community service component. There are a few lodges that are simply all about keeping up with who's in the hospital, who died and trying to raise enough money to keep going, and aren't interested in new people except for their money, nor are the interested in masonic education. That's the type I left. All I can say is it was a positive part of my life for a few years, all this conspiracy stuff is crap, nobody gets a break anymore just because they're a Mason, nobody really cares if you are a Mason outside the lodge either. It all depends on your lodge - some are crappy old men's clubs and others can be really interesting. Thank you! I'm a fellow Mason of MANY years. I wish I had your eloquence. YOU speak the TRUTH. I too, have seen some extrordinary deeds. I can't imagine a better way to have lived my life! Again, many thanks!! Peavine  "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| ray16309 User ID: 1052410 United States02/15/2011 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Grandfather was a Mason... he never told us anything. "If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultus, who is imposing the program of a group of 'Extreme Bankers' and finance oligarchs... That's Fascism". ~Webster G. Tarpley~ My KA-BAR is SHARP! |
| Pea Vine User ID: 694444 United States02/15/2011 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of the "mind blowing" stuff includes seeing ordinary men, that you may even know outside the lodge, do some extraordinary things. Men that you might have considered to be simple will impart some pretty esoteric knowledge of subjects you probably never heard of. I've exerpted this from a AC's post here. It's true and completley humbling when you experience it. Pea "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| Pea Vine User ID: 694444 United States02/15/2011 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Grandfather was a Mason... he never told us anything. Quoting: ray16309You can't "Tell" anything because it's something you "experience". It would be like asking a dead man to explain what life is all about. Think you'd get a answer?  "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| VulpesInculta (PTM) User ID: 727223 United States02/15/2011 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked. Quoting: ItsPatNow, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was. When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind". We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out. After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation. Any thoughts? Lots of people are Masons and they aren't all evil. My Grandfather was a Mason. No big deal. Don't let zakk find out. Always in a moment of extreme danger things can be done which had previously been thought impossible. - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel |
