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My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked.

Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was.

When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind".

We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out.

After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.5a

Any thoughts?
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
Wow.

Over here, they are much more secretive about it, it seems.
Just no way you would ever see any of them wearing their
symbols on their clothes.

Haha - but where I live, the official town logo itself is a classic
old Faith-Hope-Charity variant :)
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked.

Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was.

When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind".

We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out.

After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.5a

Any thoughts?
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Lots of people are Masons and they aren't all evil. My Grandfather was a Mason. No big deal.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked.

Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was.

When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind".

We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out.

After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.5a

Any thoughts?
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Lots of people are Masons and they aren't all evil. My Grandfather was a Mason. No big deal.
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Definitely not suggesting Evil...but I'd like to know more about it -- and do you really know what your Grandfather was doing also? After all, why so secretive?

Just curious.
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Masons don't know shit about what goes on at the highest levels of such societies. It's like your neighborhood priest doesn't know shit about what goes on in the Vatican.

They are "useful idiots".
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
masons are evil, vile, despicable, ugly and definitely not human
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
Masons don't know shit about what goes on at the highest levels of such societies. It's like your neighborhood priest doesn't know shit about what goes on in the Vatican.

They are "useful idiots".
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Yeah, it is sort of what I had in mind as well. I've read enough to understand not many people realize they are being used these days.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
Evil?

Hmm.

Getting each other not-so-fair advantages
behind locked doors...or in, let's say, court?

You bet your sweet ass.

Is there, btw, one single Finnish chief newspaper
editor who is not a freemason?

And how the hell, in a so called "democracy",
can there be people on high official posts,
at the same time being members of secret
societies, abiding by secret rules..?

Shame on us for letting it go on and on.

Only people questioning it were right wing
military types in the 1930's.
Since then - nothing.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
We know you are foolish slaves and need guidance.

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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
We know you are foolish slaves and need guidance.

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lmao

Among us slaves, it's either you've got something to hide
- or you don't.

Mason or boyscout, slave or king - there's still only one (1)
way to build human integrity.
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Casting pearls before swine doesn't build a greater society.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
So what OP. You must be a conspiracy noob.
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I worked for a freemason and that guy was a kleptomaniac and a pathological liar.
He was a burglar too.
The scum of the earth.
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I worked for a freemason and that guy was a kleptomaniac and a pathological liar.
He was a burglar too.
The scum of the earth.
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In reality you are...and try to blame others.
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Casting pearls before swine doesn't build a greater society.
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Oink.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
I was driving today in pittsburgh and someone had a free mason license plate, symbol and all.. black lodge it said on it as well
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We know you are foolish slaves and need guidance.

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lmao

Among us slaves, it's either you've got something to hide
- or you don't.

Mason or boyscout, slave or king - there's still only one (1)
way to build human integrity.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here..."by living your life as a example?"
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So what OP. You must be a conspiracy noob.
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Definitely not. Just not spewing a thousand conspiracies your way. Wanted to get more thoughts.

It is not normal for one to slip on the Illuminati stuff...hence, my post.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here..."by living your life as a example?"
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Not saying I do not fail, occasionally.

Errare humanum est.

But yeah, I think "Quit lying!" is a pretty good maxim.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
Eventually you get so curious, tired of the disinformation everywhere, that you walk into a Lodge and find out the truth....things are not as they seem

Membership is increasing for people under 30, your boyfriend should join if he thinks the time is right


The misinformation/conspiracies or connections with the 'illuminati' work to keep the secrets guarded....if you are looking for the 'bad guys,' look elsewhere.

I asked a Mason today about Hitler, and all he said Hitler put Masons and Jews in the camps because he was frightened they would over throw him
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked.

Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was.

When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind".

We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out.

After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.5a

Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ItsPat


Holy shite this was posted at various times over the past 2 years, I think we found one of the UK psychiatrist.
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masons are evil, vile, despicable, ugly and definitely not human
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lol
keep enjoying the fantasy, living in your head, thinking reptilians are out to get you ...
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
Masons don't know shit about what goes on at the highest levels of such societies. It's like your neighborhood priest doesn't know shit about what goes on in the Vatican.

They are "useful idiots".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262675



Exactly.

Speaking to a 3rd degree mason about what is behind masonry is like speaking to a 3rd grader about the true purpose of 'public education'.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
So what OP. You must be a conspiracy noob.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259318


Definitely not. Just not spewing a thousand conspiracies your way. Wanted to get more thoughts.

It is not normal for one to slip on the Illuminati stuff...hence, my post.
 Quoting: ItsPat


I have a friend that I have known for over 40 years, and he was an Illuminatus long before he became a 33rd degree Freemason.
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
I'm a Mason. Inactive for several years now, but once a Mason, always a Mason... You can't "unlearn" it.

There's a reason they can't tell you the secrets, and you have to become a Mason to learn them. It's not so much that they won't tell you, it's that they literally can't. It's like explaining a beautiful sunset to a blind person. It's not the same thing as seeing it.

You can look up all the rituals and stuff that goes on online, it's pretty much accurate. But it doesn't mean anything unless you experience it. This is what I mean, it's hard for me to even explain the difference here. Some of the "mind blowing" stuff includes seeing ordinary men, that you may even know outside the lodge, do some extraordinary things. Men that you might have considered to be simple will impart some pretty esoteric knowledge of subjects you probably never heard of.

Anyhow, as in any large organization, there are also going to be a few idiots, which explains why I'm inactive now. Some lodges are genuinely interested and involved in more education and advancing, depending on your jurisdiction you can go on to Royal Arch, or Templar Knights, or Shriners if you're interested. Other lodges aren't that interested but do more community service stuff. All lodges have some charity and community service component. There are a few lodges that are simply all about keeping up with who's in the hospital, who died and trying to raise enough money to keep going, and aren't interested in new people except for their money, nor are the interested in masonic education. That's the type I left.

All I can say is it was a positive part of my life for a few years, all this conspiracy stuff is crap, nobody gets a break anymore just because they're a Mason, nobody really cares if you are a Mason outside the lodge either. It all depends on your lodge - some are crappy old men's clubs and others can be really interesting.
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He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked.

Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was.

When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind".

We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out.

After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.5a

Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ItsPat


stonermason
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
I'm a Mason. Inactive for several years now, but once a Mason, always a Mason... You can't "unlearn" it.

There's a reason they can't tell you the secrets, and you have to become a Mason to learn them. It's not so much that they won't tell you, it's that they literally can't. It's like explaining a beautiful sunset to a blind person. It's not the same thing as seeing it.

You can look up all the rituals and stuff that goes on online, it's pretty much accurate. But it doesn't mean anything unless you experience it. This is what I mean, it's hard for me to even explain the difference here. Some of the "mind blowing" stuff includes seeing ordinary men, that you may even know outside the lodge, do some extraordinary things. Men that you might have considered to be simple will impart some pretty esoteric knowledge of subjects you probably never heard of.

Anyhow, as in any large organization, there are also going to be a few idiots, which explains why I'm inactive now. Some lodges are genuinely interested and involved in more education and advancing, depending on your jurisdiction you can go on to Royal Arch, or Templar Knights, or Shriners if you're interested. Other lodges aren't that interested but do more community service stuff. All lodges have some charity and community service component. There are a few lodges that are simply all about keeping up with who's in the hospital, who died and trying to raise enough money to keep going, and aren't interested in new people except for their money, nor are the interested in masonic education. That's the type I left.

All I can say is it was a positive part of my life for a few years, all this conspiracy stuff is crap, nobody gets a break anymore just because they're a Mason, nobody really cares if you are a Mason outside the lodge either. It all depends on your lodge - some are crappy old men's clubs and others can be really interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212709


Thank you! I'm a fellow Mason of MANY years. I wish I had your eloquence. YOU speak the TRUTH. I too, have seen some extrordinary deeds. I can't imagine a better way to have lived my life! Again, many thanks!!

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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
My Grandfather was a Mason... he never told us anything.
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Some of the "mind blowing" stuff includes seeing ordinary men, that you may even know outside the lodge, do some extraordinary things. Men that you might have considered to be simple will impart some pretty esoteric knowledge of subjects you probably never heard of.

I've exerpted this from a AC's post here. It's true and completley humbling when you experience it.
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My Grandfather was a Mason... he never told us anything.
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You can't "Tell" anything because it's something you "experience". It would be like asking a dead man to explain what life is all about. Think you'd get a answer?
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Re: My boyfriend said he met a Freemason at work yesterday...
He was working in customer service & met a man who had a Free Mason symbol on his hat and was also wearing a Mason ring as well. He told me he helped the guy out and then blatantly said to the man "So I suppose you can't tell me anything about your hat" -- the guy replied "You mean that it's black?" and apparently he smirked.

Now, my boyfriend never used to believe in this stuff, and he doesn't know much about it (then again, who does?) -- but apparently the guy continued talking to him about it, telling him where he could go for more info on "joining" and what not. My boyfriend said "so can you tell me more about the Masons and the Illuminati?" -- He told me the guy made sure to correct him by saying they were NOT the same and that they were in fact DIFFERENT (I'd like to know more?). He told him about how his father and grandfather were in it and would not tell him what it was.

When he turned 20 they asked him to join and he couldn't know what it was. He told my boyfriend "I told my dad, 'why would I join something I didn't know about'." Apparently though, he joined...he also told my boyfriend that there are things you "Won't believe. Things that will blow your mind".

We both thought it was so odd. Apparently the guy came back after shopping more to talk to him and said "Remember what I told you if you go to a Masonic Temple -- listen more talk less." And kept encouraging him to go and check it out.

After he got home we talked about it for a while. It's just strange that he was so open and "slipped up" about the Illuminati/Masons not being the same, therefore admitting the Illuminati...though, I'm also aware anyone can purchase Mason rings/gear, etc. My boyfriend did say the guy looked in his mid-30's though. We thought the whole "why would I join if I didn't know what it was" thing could have been a reach out to him to join or some crazy shit. Well, just more of a speculation.5a

Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ItsPat



Lots of people are Masons and they aren't all evil. My Grandfather was a Mason. No big deal.
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