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CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".

 
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CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
Now TPTB and MSM have started the official disinformation campaign about Nibiru. Lots of lame articles with confused information or lack of:

You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.

And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.

Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.

Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.

The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.

Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth, scientists say.
 Quoting: [link to news.blogs.cnn.com]


So far, they said that Tyche:

Is 15.000 UA from our Sun.
Is 4 times the size of Jupiter.
Has a 27.000 year orbit.

I assume they also know at what speed this object is traveling and probably they know where it is NOW and when will occur its perihelion.

Any astronomers here???

Where the hell is retiredafb???
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
I wouldn't believe anything coming out of Lafayette Louisiana.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
Hammond and Lafayette are really interesting. So is Avery Island. Louisiana is a wonder, clay, swamps, salt domes, the river, the gulf, all the elements...
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
I wouldn't believe anything coming out of Lafayette Louisiana.
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[link to www.theepochtimes.com]
Matthew Holman, a planetary scientist at the Harvard Smithsonian Institute of Astrophysics, says Tyche probably does not exist, or at least within our solar system.

"Based on past papers that I've seen looking at where long-period comets came from in the sky, and finding signatures of large perturbers of the Oort cloud, I was not persuaded by the evidence,” he told Life’s Little Mysteries.

Planetary scientist Hal Levison with Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo., made a similar statement.

"What Matese claims is that he sees an excess of comets coming from a particular place, which he attributes to the gravitational effects of a large planet in the Oort cloud,” he told the website. “I have nothing against the idea, but I think the signal that he claims he sees is very subtle, and I'm not sure it's statistically significant.”

The Independent noted that the planet, which would likely comprise hydrogen and helium gases, should push comets from the inner Oort cloud, but this has not been observed.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
I wouldn't believe anything coming out of Lafayette Louisiana.
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Do you really believe that Nibiru or whatever MSM is calling it, was discovered by Louisiana's astronomers??? These guys are scapegoats. No official astronomy entity or space agency came to public to corroborate them. TPTB are leaving these guys messing around with weak information, taking the responsibility off the authorities shoulders.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
oh and they left with there round weather sattelite ufo ?

or did they stay i still don't know who is evil with all that mind control.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
I wouldn't believe anything coming out of Lafayette Louisiana.
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[link to www.theepochtimes.com]
Matthew Holman, a planetary scientist at the Harvard Smithsonian Institute of Astrophysics, says Tyche probably does not exist, or at least within our solar system.

"Based on past papers that I've seen looking at where long-period comets came from in the sky, and finding signatures of large perturbers of the Oort cloud, I was not persuaded by the evidence,” he told Life’s Little Mysteries.

Planetary scientist Hal Levison with Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo., made a similar statement.

"What Matese claims is that he sees an excess of comets coming from a particular place, which he attributes to the gravitational effects of a large planet in the Oort cloud,” he told the website. “I have nothing against the idea, but I think the signal that he claims he sees is very subtle, and I'm not sure it's statistically significant.”

The Independent noted that the planet, which would likely comprise hydrogen and helium gases, should push comets from the inner Oort cloud, but this has not been observed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263711


Don't forget that NASA made an official statement in 1984, about Nemesis aka "Planet X", being a brown dwarf star located at the same Oort cloud.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
How in the hell can they spot planets 10 lightyears away, but this huge massive thing in our solar systems goes unnoticed?? Seems very fishy to me.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
So far, they said that Tyche:

Is 15.000 UA from our Sun.
Is 4 times the size of Jupiter.
Has a 27.000 year orbit.

I assume they also know at what speed this object is traveling and probably they know where it is NOW and when will occur its perihelion.

Any astronomers here???

Where the hell is retiredafb???
 Quoting: NIBIRU PSY-OPS 1262483


AS I've said already..

'THEY' are 2 MORANS, who are making shit up, have NO proof, AND ARE IGNORING THE EVIDENCE that strongly disputes their claims.

Simply, they are STUPID!!

Believe them, and YOU are stupid too!!!




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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
I wouldn't believe anything coming out of Lafayette Louisiana.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263711

Do you really believe that Nibiru or whatever MSM is calling it, was discovered by Louisiana's astronomers???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262483

They don't claim to have discovered anything.
They hypothesised its existence.

Tyche definitely doesn't match Nibiru.
Nibiru doesn't exist for the very simple reason such an object cannot exist without being observable.
It's a fantasy.

Don't forget that NASA made an official statement in 1984, about Nemesis aka "Planet X", being a brown dwarf star located at the same Oort cloud.
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NASA did no such thing.

In 1984 two groups of astronomers proposed Nemesis as a hypothesis.
One of those groups included Daniel Whitmire.

Tyche basically is a new version of the same idea.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
How in the hell can they spot planets 10 lightyears away, but this huge massive thing in our solar systems goes unnoticed?? Seems very fishy to me.
 Quoting: One Of My Names


The astronomers are using two methods of discovering planets.One is looking for the host stars "woble" from the planets gravity. The second is watching for the host suns "light" to wink as the planet passes between the host sun and us. Neither of these methods would detect a planet or dwarf sun in the Ort cloud. Hope this helps. Funny how now we have a NEW name for a planetesimel thats been hinted about for a millenia,and new indaviduals caiming it's discovery.Whats that now, 2 or 3? The fact this is in the main stream is troubleing IMHO.

Last Edited by NervousNJerky on 02/15/2011 11:17 PM
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
Where's the 'nut? I haven't seen him comment on any of the threads about this new "discovery".
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
the Nibiru/PlanetX/Tyche/Nemisis/Wormwood/Destroyer/DarkTwin/Seco​ndSun/Sundog/ZetaTard genie is out of the bottle and i'm afraid it will never go away now

ever.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
[link to www.youtube.com]



I've seen it several times on LASCO C3.

It's on the right, usually see it as a half circle.

It's incredibly large.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
astute analysis, OP.

please note that there were sufficiently advanced
astronomical civilizations during the last 2 nibiru
passages - the last time was during the israelite
exodus, and the nibiru passage before that was noah's
famed flood. in each instance, nibiru caught all major
advanced civilizations completely by surprise -
otherwise, they would have made better preparations
for nibiru's passage. for example, if pharoah's
astronomers/astrologers had known and been able
to track nibiru in the skies, pharoah would have
never let his israelite slaves free to exodus.

today, we are in a similar situation. mainstream
astronomers tell us that there is no such thing as
nibiru - a brown dwarf with 7 moons in a highly
eccentric clockwise orbit that crosses the solar
system's ecliptic somewhere between mars and jupiter.
despite the known and documented gravitational
anomolies (voyager), the current (and predicted) disruption
in the sunspot cycle, and the dramatic magnetic
anamolies we are experiencing on earth (the earth
is just a big bar magnet in space - what then is
causing the bar magnet poles to tilt? is there
another massive bar magnet out there nearby that we
are not seeing?!?!?), nasa will never admit the
truth up until the time our skies are dominated by
the leopard sun with 7 eyes.

now, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE between now and previous
nibiru cycles is that we have a global secret
society, the illuminati, who know about nibiru
from their ancient esoteric libraries and who have
confirmed its existence through classified telemetry
from their IR telescopes and sats. for over 25
years, the illuminati has made preparations to
preserve themselves through the coming tumult to
emerge later from their underground lairs and
establish their new world order after nibiru completes
its slingshot around the sun and back into the deep
darkness of space.

as with the facebook riots in the middle east, there
is a great global awakening aided by the info sharing
power of the internet. it's only a matter of time,
in my opinion, when we reach a critical mass of
people globally on the coming of second sun, the
destroyer...

"the truth points to itself" = www.shepherdschapel.com
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02/16/2011 01:22 AM
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
Is there any chance that Elenin is Nibiru?

No one will state the size and we do cross paths in September.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
Where's the 'nut? I haven't seen him comment on any of the threads about this new "discovery".
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Be careful on what Nut you wish for. lol
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
Now TPTB and MSM have started the official disinformation campaign about Nibiru. Lots of lame articles with confused information or lack of:

You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.

And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.

Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.

Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.

The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.

Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth, scientists say.
 Quoting: [link to news.blogs.cnn.com]


So far, they said that Tyche:

Is 15.000 UA from our Sun.
Is 4 times the size of Jupiter.
Has a 27.000 year orbit.

I assume they also know at what speed this object is traveling and probably they know where it is NOW and when will occur its perihelion.

Any astronomers here???

Where the hell is retiredafb???
 Quoting: NIBIRU PSY-OPS 1262483


"Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years..."

We might just wait for confirmation from WISE... What they have presented so far is nothing more than a THEORETICAL OBJECT or did you all miss that part.

All that said, even though one knows the orbital speed, mass, size, and distance from the Sun, that is not enough inforation to tell one about the shape of an orbit... and things like its inclination, perihelion, and apohelion.

If we were using those 20 AU / Year spacecraft engines, and knew where to send that, with this thing being out 15,000 AUs -- well do that math.. it would still take around 750 years to get a space craft out there... and actually even more, perhaps.

Even if this planet exists, its more like the theorized Planet-X than it is Nibiru, as "everyone knows" because of Stichin that Nibiru has a 3,600 year orbit, not a 27 Million year orbit.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
astute analysis, OP.

please note that there were sufficiently advanced
astronomical civilizations during the last 2 nibiru
passages - the last time was during the israelite
exodus, and the nibiru passage before that was noah's
famed flood. in each instance, nibiru caught all major
advanced civilizations completely by surprise -
otherwise, they would have made better preparations
for nibiru's passage. for example, if pharoah's
astronomers/astrologers had known and been able
to track nibiru in the skies, pharoah would have
never let his israelite slaves free to exodus.

today, we are in a similar situation. mainstream
astronomers tell us that there is no such thing as
nibiru - a brown dwarf with 7 moons in a highly
eccentric clockwise orbit that crosses the solar
system's ecliptic somewhere between mars and jupiter.
despite the known and documented gravitational
anomolies (voyager), the current (and predicted) disruption
in the sunspot cycle, and the dramatic magnetic
anamolies we are experiencing on earth (the earth
is just a big bar magnet in space - what then is
causing the bar magnet poles to tilt? is there
another massive bar magnet out there nearby that we
are not seeing?!?!?), nasa will never admit the
truth up until the time our skies are dominated by
the leopard sun with 7 eyes.

now, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE between now and previous
nibiru cycles is that we have a global secret
society, the illuminati, who know about nibiru
from their ancient esoteric libraries and who have
confirmed its existence through classified telemetry
from their IR telescopes and sats. for over 25
years, the illuminati has made preparations to
preserve themselves through the coming tumult to
emerge later from their underground lairs and
establish their new world order after nibiru completes
its slingshot around the sun and back into the deep
darkness of space.

as with the facebook riots in the middle east, there
is a great global awakening aided by the info sharing
power of the internet. it's only a matter of time,
in my opinion, when we reach a critical mass of
people globally on the coming of second sun, the
destroyer...

 Quoting: grimmlord


Yellow text on white back ground? Be serious.
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
How in the hell can they spot planets 10 lightyears away, but this huge massive thing in our solar systems goes unnoticed?? Seems very fishy to me.
 Quoting: One Of My Names


Perhaps the weird accellerations and decellerations of Pioneer and V'ger have been trying to tell us its there out in the Ort Could.

They say 4 times the size, is that 4 times the diameter of Jupiter, or 4 times the Mass?
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Re: CNN: "Tyche is either a gas giant or a dwarf star with a 27 million-year orbit".
How in the hell can they spot planets 10 lightyears away, but this huge massive thing in our solar systems goes unnoticed?? Seems very fishy to me.
 Quoting: One Of My Names


Perhaps the weird accellerations and decellerations of Pioneer and V'ger have been trying to tell us its there out in the Ort Could.

They say 4 times the size, is that 4 times the diameter of Jupiter, or 4 times the Mass?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144159


Can you provide a link for this data? I would like to take a look at it. If so , thankyou in advance.
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