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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1272046  Australia02/20/2011 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 997697  United States02/20/2011 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MOID = minimum orbit interception distance, not distance to earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266230It can pass near the Earth's orbit even though the Earth is on the other side of the sun Sorry, the Earth will pass right thru the tail. [link to img4.imageshack.us] |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD Contrarian's Contrarian  User ID: 1222987  Netherlands02/20/2011 10:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MOID = minimum orbit interception distance, not distance to earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266230It can pass near the Earth's orbit even though the Earth is on the other side of the sun Sorry, the Earth will pass right thru the tail. [link to img4.imageshack.us] Cool. Hasn't happened since 1910.  Hatred is a cancer upon the world. It rots the mind and blackens the heart. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1272448 United States02/21/2011 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Comet Elenin is a minor comet with a nucleus about 200 yards across. It's closest approach will be about 14,000,000 miles from earth this fall. Unfortunately, Comet Elenin might not ever become naked eye visible due to its small size and great distance from earth. A brown dwarf between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars would be extremely bright in the night sky and would see be bright enough to be seen during the daytime. If a brown dwarf were to approach to 14,000,000 miles from us, its angular size would be almost as large as the sun: Sun: ~0.5 degrees Brown dwarf @ 14e6 miles (assuming a conservative diameter of 100e6 miles): ~0.4 degrees |
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| Astronut Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 United States02/21/2011 09:27 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the top left you see a "bird-like" object...is that Elenin?? Quoting: DDanNo, that's a bit of crud on a film plate recorded about 20 years ago or more. That's from POSS2, which was a whole sky survey completed in the early 90's. Although that's close to Elenin's current coordinates (at least as of last week) that's nowhere near where it would have been in the sky that long ago, plus it would have been too dim to be seen that far back.  |
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| DDan User ID: 1272900  Germany02/21/2011 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the top left you see a "bird-like" object...is that Elenin?? Quoting: DDanNo, that's a bit of crud on a film plate recorded about 20 years ago or more. That's from POSS2, which was a whole sky survey completed in the early 90's. Although that's close to Elenin's current coordinates (at least as of last week) that's nowhere near where it would have been in the sky that long ago, plus it would have been too dim to be seen that far back. Hi Astronut, basically your saying that the "aladin" site uses imaging from the 90's? Do you know the current coordinates and could you point me to a place on the internet that I could plug the data in there? I unfortunately do not have a telescope handy :-( Kind Regards, Dan |
| DDan User ID: 1272900 Germany02/21/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the top left you see a "bird-like" object...is that Elenin?? Quoting: DDanNo, that's a bit of crud on a film plate recorded about 20 years ago or more. That's from POSS2, which was a whole sky survey completed in the early 90's. Although that's close to Elenin's current coordinates (at least as of last week) that's nowhere near where it would have been in the sky that long ago, plus it would have been too dim to be seen that far back. Also, that picture is "SERC/I/DSS2" in the link...is that the same as the POSSII...images? Kind Regards, Dan |
| Astronut Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 United States02/21/2011 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the top left you see a "bird-like" object...is that Elenin?? Quoting: DDanNo, that's a bit of crud on a film plate recorded about 20 years ago or more. That's from POSS2, which was a whole sky survey completed in the early 90's. Although that's close to Elenin's current coordinates (at least as of last week) that's nowhere near where it would have been in the sky that long ago, plus it would have been too dim to be seen that far back. Hi Astronut, basically your saying that the "aladin" site uses imaging from the 90's? Do you know the current coordinates and could you point me to a place on the internet that I could plug the data in there? I unfortunately do not have a telescope handy :-( Unless you have a subscription to SLOOH or access to a telescope (or are friends with someone who has one) I don't know how you're going to get live images of a specific set of coordinates like that. |
| DDan User ID: 1272900 Germany02/21/2011 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW...good catch...and your right so many dots to connect here...let me try, and look around and see if I can find any data...brb Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249331Hi OP...I can actually see it on ALL the images on the link (bottom/left menu bar). That image is the only one where it stands out...the others show it faint...so faint that it looks like all the other faded dots on the image... Fair to say that Astronut? Also is SERC and POSSII the same imagers?? Sorry for all the dumb questions...definately a new area for me ;-) Kind Regards, Dan |
| Astronut Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 United States02/21/2011 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the top left you see a "bird-like" object...is that Elenin?? Quoting: DDanNo, that's a bit of crud on a film plate recorded about 20 years ago or more. That's from POSS2, which was a whole sky survey completed in the early 90's. Although that's close to Elenin's current coordinates (at least as of last week) that's nowhere near where it would have been in the sky that long ago, plus it would have been too dim to be seen that far back. Also, that picture is "SERC/I/DSS2" in the link...is that the same as the POSSII...images? DSS2 is the digitized version of POSS2. |
| DDan User ID: 1272900 Germany02/21/2011 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you have a subscription to SLOOH or access to a telescope (or are friends with someone who has one) I don't know how you're going to get live images of a specific set of coordinates like that. Quoting: AstronutBummer....I love the stars and after starting to read Quantum books for idiots, I have just been looking at all different things ;-) Last Edited by DDan on 02/21/2011 04:22 PM Kind Regards, Dan |
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| NiNzrez User ID: 1135433 United States02/21/2011 04:25 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is its size? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1268391New data reported 0.3 Dia arcmin, but its far away link please? because i am not finding the size anywhere other than speculation on forums Solar Alerts Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 251 M & 18 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ*** How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? |
| Astronut Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 United States02/21/2011 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fair to say that Astronut? Also is SERC and POSSII the same imagers?? Sorry for all the dumb questions...definately a new area for me ;-) Quoting: DDanSERC is the southern hemisphere counterpart to POSSII. Together they create the whole-sky survey I generally refer to as "POSS2" though really it's two surveys conducted with nearly-identical equipment at an observatory in the northern and one in the southern hemisphere (using the UK Schmidt Telescope in Australia). |
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| Astronut Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 United States02/21/2011 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW...good catch...and your right so many dots to connect here...let me try, and look around and see if I can find any data...brb Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249331Hi OP...I can actually see it on ALL the images on the link (bottom/left menu bar). That image is the only one where it stands out...the others show it faint...so faint that it looks like all the other faded dots on the image... I see a galaxy near, but not on, the same position as the crud in the SERC infrared image. |
| DDan User ID: 1272900 Germany02/21/2011 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is its size? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1268391New data reported 0.3 Dia arcmin, but its far away link please? because i am not finding the size anywhere other than speculation on forums How big is this: 0.3 Dia arcmin ?? Man, I got to learn this stuff...I feel like such an idiot when I ask all these questions (no "if the shoe fits jokes"!!)... Kind Regards, Dan |
| DDan User ID: 1272900 Germany02/21/2011 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW...good catch...and your right so many dots to connect here...let me try, and look around and see if I can find any data...brb Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249331Hi OP...I can actually see it on ALL the images on the link (bottom/left menu bar). That image is the only one where it stands out...the others show it faint...so faint that it looks like all the other faded dots on the image... I see a galaxy near, but not on, the same position as the crud in the SERC infrared image. The first thing I thought of was a nebula...but then I don't think it would be that clear ;-) Kind Regards, Dan |
| upstateny User ID: 750445 United States02/21/2011 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this guy is claiming that Elenin is actually Brown Dwarf?! Quoting: Dumb_Blonde 1268534the 'coincidence' of this comet, coming out of nowhere - and from south of the ecliptic just a px is supposed - is waaay beyond belief. for those who've been studying about px for any length of time .. we understand what this thing really is .. A COVERUP. not looking to get into any pissing contest here. y'all believe what ya want to believe. but i've made up my mind already, and this is the real deal. Prepare whle theres still time left. You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in. |
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| El Quisqueyano User ID: 1280343 United States03/02/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the top left you see a "bird-like" object...is that Elenin?? Quoting: DDanNo, that's a bit of crud on a film plate recorded about 20 years ago or more. That's from POSS2, which was a whole sky survey completed in the early 90's. Although that's close to Elenin's current coordinates (at least as of last week) that's nowhere near where it would have been in the sky that long ago, plus it would have been too dim to be seen that far back. Hi Astronut, basically your saying that the "aladin" site uses imaging from the 90's? Do you know the current coordinates and could you point me to a place on the internet that I could plug the data in there? I unfortunately do not have a telescope handy :-( Unless you have a subscription to SLOOH or access to a telescope (or are friends with someone who has one) I don't know how you're going to get live images of a specific set of coordinates like that. What are the coordinates for SLOOH and comet Elenin? I have a SLOOH membership and would like to follow Elenin. [link to skreened.com] The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17 "Worst come to worst, my peoples come FIRST" Dilated Peoples |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284776 United States03/04/2011 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for lifting the ban on me... ================= New..latest images...March 3rd, 2011... [link to 6888comete.free.fr] note...3 objects...moving in same direction...middle is X1, and ... credit...SOULIER Jean-François..(France) ======= The Two moving objects above Comet X1 are asteriods... Top/left at @ 10 O'Clock is 13414... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] The other is Asteriod 55864... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] |
| Vet/Father User ID: 1284776 United States03/04/2011 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for lifting the ban on me... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284776================= New..latest images...March 3rd, 2011... [link to 6888comete.free.fr] note...3 objects...moving in same direction...middle is X1, and ... credit...SOULIER Jean-François..(France) ======= The Two moving objects above Comet X1 are asteriods... Top/left at @ 10 O'Clock is 13414... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] The other is Asteriod 55864... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] There are more images...brb |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284712 United States03/04/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for lifting the ban on me... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284776================= New..latest images...March 3rd, 2011... [link to 6888comete.free.fr] note...3 objects...moving in same direction...middle is X1, and ... credit...SOULIER Jean-François..(France) ======= The Two moving objects above Comet X1 are asteriods... Top/left at @ 10 O'Clock is 13414... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] The other is Asteriod 55864... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Can't......Stand.....the......Pain. My........ Brain........ is H-U-R-T-I-N-G. |
| Vet/Father User ID: 1284776 United States03/04/2011 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Image of X1... [link to gustavomuler.fotografiaastronomica.com] Credit....Gustavo Muler of Observatonio Nazaret(Spain) ======= 2nd image... [link to 6888comete.free.fr] Diam. coma +/- 0.18' soit pour 2.94UA +/- 27938 km Credit ...SOULIER Jean-François (France) Latest on Feb 26th...with new coma and tail size data, and other great stuff [link to www.amication.de] 3rd Image of X1... [link to www.amication.de] Credit......Bernhard Hausler ...Germany ========================================== New updated path, and minor adjustments with e (obrital plane) [link to www.curtrenz.com] =========================================================== credit... [link to www.curtrenz.com] ----- Instead of 3 days (Sept 10,11,12th) on exact plane as Earth (0.00au)...new data...shows from Sept 10th thur 18th... 8 days now...at 0.00 au... 5 days added..., but don't know if its 0.002, 0.004, 0.006au, etc..? also... At 0.01 au (Above Obrital plane), which is 929 ,558 miles from Sept 18th thur Sept 29th..(11 days) Will pass Above Earth Orbital plane at 0.03 au, which is 2 ,788 ,676 miles ..( 2.78 million miles)...still very far, but putting this down...for future referances...as this path projections keeps changing... =============================================== Orbit Determination Parameters # obs. used (total) 355 data-arc span 75 days first obs. used 2010-12-10 last obs. used 2011-02-23 planetary ephem. DE405 SB-pert. ephem. SB405-CPV-2 fit RMS .63571 data source ORB producer Otto Matic solution date 2011-Feb-24 10:50:16 |
