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NOAA WARNING...THREE CMEs TO ARRIVE...POSSIBLE G3 STORM!.***UPDATE***...STORM IN PROGRESS!

 
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
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bitch please
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I still have to say, no matter WHAT is going on with the sun, it has never resulted in something I have noticed IRL. so if this is a HUGE deal, is there a way I will detect an effect somewhere outside my home? Will there be a news report about ANYTHING significant?

Or is this like reading about weather on Mars. Exciting if you're a martian, but otherwise, who cares?

Not that I'm anti-doom. Far from it. It's just that I never see anything interesting happening no matter what the sun does or doesn't do. KWIM?
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I'm just curious, and I asked this question in another thread. Does anyone remember last decade something similar occurred and a fairly large chunk of our electrical grid was wiped out, as well as part of Canada? I remember because I was living in Houston and we were diverting electricity to the affected states. I also remember a big fuss in the news about cell phone outages.
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
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No.

A G2 or G3 geomagnetic storm won't do anything to electronics. They happened on a regular basis in the last solar cycle.
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Re: NOAA WARNING...THREE CMEs TO ARRIVE...POSSIBLE G3 STORM!.***UPDATE***...STORM IN PROGRESS!
NASA Issued Alert Data on CME and X Flare and other flares

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Understanding that X flares are much stronger and faster than other flares and there were 10 C Flares along with a M flare before the X flare and CME happened. The X flare can/does catch up with the other flares, to where they can all hit at the same time.

NASA had issued and Alert with their estimated time of arrival. They had issued it for 2:57 UTC on the 17th with a + 6 hour confidence.

That time has come and gone.

So that means now the U.S - S. America - Canada will be sun facing today and will have the most impact if any impact from the CME.

NASA's Site

Event Issue Date: 2011-02-15 05:47:44.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2011-02-17 02:57:50.0 GMT
Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 6 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 5.5 Re



[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]


the above site is absolutely fabulous - it has everything on it for the Earth and Sun with data and information about all the various aspects. It is a place to keep bookmarked, for knowledge for those interested in Solar and Earth events. Just go to the various tabs for information - the tab about the CME arrival and expectations is under "Alerts".



Magnetosphere Stand off - is suppose to be 5.5 RE as the CME hits - from what NASA says - look at the graph above for what that means and how close the magnet field will come to the Earth in pressure.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

The above link is a view/simulation of what is happening with the magnetosphere as it happens.

The NASA site linked above - also has a magnetosphere tab to see the field's reactions to the flares.

Just wanted to give this information for all those who are interested in this subject.
 Quoting: Smoky2 1128143


Hmmm.... None of those links are working. Perhaps everyone needs to buy one of these:

[link to www.brookstone.com]

Last Edited by Kat Mama on 02/17/2011 10:13 AM
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[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

is the last link.... it was truncated for some reason...

real time magnetosphere page.
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The Carrington Event Relived, total electrical Fry!
Now available on MSM everywhere....

I sure am glad I didn't stay up all night waiting for this beeeoch to get here.....
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
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I wish I knew what the truth was. There are some people who say we have a weakened magnetosphere and these things are coming in one after another which further weakens it ready for the awful X cme one to run right over us all which would pretty much devastate everything. But then there are those who say no big deal, pretty lights, get on with your day...

That's my take on it.
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The Carrington Event Relived, total electrical Fry!
Now available on MSM everywhere....

I sure am glad I didn't stay up all night waiting for this beeeoch to get here.....
 Quoting: OpenEnded


I was up late enough to get cranky then i had a hot milk and went to bed and then i get up and its repeating all over again. the angst. the horror. the fear. the where-the-hell-is-it? by the time the thing gets here i'll be completely insane and they'll have to find a way to get me to the nuthouse.
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more...

Huge solar flare jams radio, satellite signals: NASA
[link to news.yahoo.com]

Last Edited by Phree Non-Phixion on 02/17/2011 10:23 AM
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what happened to the simulator?????

Is it broken???

Edit: I finally got it..The magnetic field looks like a heart <3

Last Edited by Nothing2C on 02/17/2011 10:28 AM
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Could someone explain what this chart is indicating? Looks intense, but I'm not an expert

[link to www.solen.info]

Solar Terrestrial Activity Report:

[link to www.solen.info]
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It's a graph for Jan., and Feb, of this year correlating the number of sunspots with the amount of X-Rays(X-Ray Flux), and the A index, which measures Geomagnetic activity.
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what happened to the simulator?????

Is it broken???
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No. It's up and very normal so far.
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Hi Tom! So what exactly does this mean? Should we stay indoors all day or what? :)
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more...

Huge solar flare jams radio, satellite signals: NASA
[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Phree Non-Phixion


So either the mainstream media waited until today to warn people or it didn't find out until today but why it took so long to go mainstream i'll never know.
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We should get a sudden impulse warning from NOAA right here [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] just before it starts. I will try to keep an eye out for it. You guys do the same.
 Quoting: tomasgod1

OP - I'm not sure what all this means in terms of its actual effects on our area (northeastern US). I've heard of such 'warnings' before and never .. EVER .. has anything serious ever come to pass. (I do understand there's always a 'first time', but ..)

Not sure if this is related, but I notice that there's been more static electricity present when I touch my car door after driving around. I've been getting zapped pretty good lately.
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what happened to the simulator?????

Is it broken???
 Quoting: Nothing2C


No. It's up and very normal so far.
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So what is 0300 GMT in EST? Just so we can do another countdown and make ourselves even crazier as the day goes on.
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I still have to say, no matter WHAT is going on with the sun, it has never resulted in something I have noticed IRL. so if this is a HUGE deal, is there a way I will detect an effect somewhere outside my home? Will there be a news report about ANYTHING significant?

Or is this like reading about weather on Mars. Exciting if you're a martian, but otherwise, who cares?

Not that I'm anti-doom. Far from it. It's just that I never see anything interesting happening no matter what the sun does or doesn't do. KWIM?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1183343


this is absolutely my feelings as well. in fact, i'm starting to get a bit annoyed at the solar doom threads getting pinned and jack shit real world events happening over it.

with so much real news out there, having 2-3 threads reporting a solar flare or CME that does absolutely nothing to the real world is pretty much DISINFORMATION as far as i'm concerned.

i mean if this will take out radio coms, cause earth quakes, power outages, etc and this gives people time to prepare then by all means, promote the information. However, if all that happens is that the northern areas see the same northern lights and auras they normally see, then why is that crap pinned?

don't get me wrong - i think the information is fine for the site, just not entirely justified as taking up 20-30% of the pins at the top of the page.
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Hi Tom! So what exactly does this mean? Should we stay indoors all day or what? :)
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lol
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Here's a link to today's news stories regarding this

[link to news.google.com]

there 163 of them now..
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what happened to the simulator?????

Is it broken???
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No. It's up and very normal so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137071

So what is 0300 GMT in EST? Just so we can do another countdown and make ourselves even crazier as the day goes on.
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[link to www.spectrum-research.com]
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The sun has been fine for billions of years.

You idiots are dogs chasing cars.

Nothing will happen with the sun, I promise you all.

Just another boring "Doom Free Day" here on GLP

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i mean if this will take out radio coms, cause earth quakes, power outages, etc and this gives people time to prepare then by all means, promote the information. However, if all that happens is that the northern areas see the same northern lights and auras they normally see, then why is that crap pinned?

 Quoting: ifSHTF




You know... the funny thing about this site is precisely the fact that we can't predict shit about these phenomenas.

read this... it could happen or not... and that's the funny part to think of

Thread: ALERT - M6.6 and X2.2 CME's can merge into one BIG HIT


And btw... if it really happens i'm sure that the all of us would regret for wanting some real doom!!! LOL

peace
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NASA Issued Alert Data on CME and X Flare and other flares

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Understanding that X flares are much stronger and faster than other flares and there were 10 C Flares along with a M flare before the X flare and CME happened. The X flare can/does catch up with the other flares, to where they can all hit at the same time.

NASA had issued and Alert with their estimated time of arrival. They had issued it for 2:57 UTC on the 17th with a + 6 hour confidence.

That time has come and gone.

So that means now the U.S - S. America - Canada will be sun facing today and will have the most impact if any impact from the CME.

NASA's Site

Event Issue Date: 2011-02-15 05:47:44.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2011-02-17 02:57:50.0 GMT
Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 6 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 5.5 Re



[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]


the above site is absolutely fabulous - it has everything on it for the Earth and Sun with data and information about all the various aspects. It is a place to keep bookmarked, for knowledge for those interested in Solar and Earth events. Just go to the various tabs for information - the tab about the CME arrival and expectations is under "Alerts".



Magnetosphere Stand off - is suppose to be 5.5 RE as the CME hits - from what NASA says - look at the graph above for what that means and how close the magnet field will come to the Earth in pressure.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

The above link is a view/simulation of what is happening with the magnetosphere as it happens.

The NASA site linked above - also has a magnetosphere tab to see the field's reactions to the flares.

Just wanted to give this information for all those who are interested in this subject.
 Quoting: Smoky2 1128143


Hmmm.... None of those links are working. Perhaps everyone needs to buy one of these:

[link to www.brookstone.com]
 Quoting: Kat Mama


You may want to take a look at this thread as well

Thread: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!

Last Edited by tomasgod1 on 02/17/2011 10:43 AM
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
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I wish I knew what the truth was. There are some people who say we have a weakened magnetosphere and these things are coming in one after another which further weakens it ready for the awful X cme one to run right over us all which would pretty much devastate everything. But then there are those who say no big deal, pretty lights, get on with your day...

That's my take on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1267578


At this point all we can really do is watch the data stream, then see for ourselves what happens as a result so we can at least have a benchmark to go from.. isn't there a matter of polarity as well? positive vs negative in the charge of the CME? if so would they have differing effects?
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003086


CRIPES, this pisses me off....dunno why...lol

LOOSE - not tight, "These pants are too loose."

LOSE - To be unsuccessful in retaining possession of, "I hope we don't lose power."
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003086


I wish I knew what the truth was. There are some people who say we have a weakened magnetosphere and these things are coming in one after another which further weakens it ready for the awful X cme one to run right over us all which would pretty much devastate everything. But then there are those who say no big deal, pretty lights, get on with your day...

That's my take on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1267578


At this point all we can really do is watch the data stream, then see for ourselves what happens as a result so we can at least have a benchmark to go from.. isn't there a matter of polarity as well? positive vs negative in the charge of the CME? if so would they have differing effects?
 Quoting: Two-R-one


Thats correct if the storm has a N charge it will not be as strong as a S charged storm. Remember how magnets work?, a S charged storm will make a better connection with our magnetic field and cause a larger storm.
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Hi Tom! So what exactly does this mean? Should we stay indoors all day or what? :)
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Hi watcher!

No way!..Go lay out! get a tan! You may want to listn to your ipod though as we have a radio blackout area headed in our direction....

Thread: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!
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so what does this mean?!?! are we going to loose power in the US?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003086


I wish I knew what the truth was. There are some people who say we have a weakened magnetosphere and these things are coming in one after another which further weakens it ready for the awful X cme one to run right over us all which would pretty much devastate everything. But then there are those who say no big deal, pretty lights, get on with your day...

That's my take on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1267578


At this point all we can really do is watch the data stream, then see for ourselves what happens as a result so we can at least have a benchmark to go from.. isn't there a matter of polarity as well? positive vs negative in the charge of the CME? if so would they have differing effects?
 Quoting: Two-R-one


Thats correct if the storm has a N charge it will not be as strong as a S charged storm. Remember how magnets work?, a S charged storm will make a better connection with our magnetic field and cause a larger storm.
 Quoting: tomasgod1


So what pretty picture do we follow to see this?
There must be a website with a box with lines and numbers and things?

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