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Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!

 
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ooops I quoted wrong
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Would you please break this down to laymans terms?

Not all of us here know or have the time to learn the jargon used in this industry but ARE intelligent enough to understand a "simpler" explanation.

Thanks in advance

Idol1
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


Hiya Fred! Not likely to effect power grids themselves but possibly switching. More likely communications especially satellite com, at the moment the ham radio bands are very quiet, no propagation, most likely due to atmospheric absorption.
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Would you please break this down to laymans terms?

Not all of us here know or have the time to learn the jargon used in this industry but ARE intelligent enough to understand a "simpler" explanation.

Thanks in advance

Idol1
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


Hiya Fred! Not likely to effect power grids themselves but possibly switching. More likely communications especially satellite com, at the moment the ham radio bands are very quiet, no propagation, most likely due to atmospheric absorption.
 Quoting: Sovrn

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Buenas Dias amigo

Thanks for your input.

I was just tryn to get a grip on this in case we have an outage today. So I can explain it correctly to the powers that are.

Ya kno

peace
Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy]



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Here a good article: [link to www.news.com.au]

I believe satellites will stop working briefly when they get ionized enough by the charged particles. They will die when an X-ray hits the wrong thing inside. IIRC, satellites blackout for several hours to maybe a whole day, it depends on the storm.

You want doom? How about X-rays (which accompany CMEs) whacking a geosynchronous satellite and it starts to drift. If it hits another satellite then you will have debris moving through that important orbit that will eventually whack all the others making the entire orbit unusable forever. Something in geosynchronous orbit is up there for 100's of thousands of years.
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Re: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!
Would you please break this down to laymans terms?

Not all of us here know or have the time to learn the jargon used in this industry but ARE intelligent enough to understand a "simpler" explanation.

Thanks in advance

Idol1
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


Hiya Fred! Not likely to effect power grids themselves but possibly switching. More likely communications especially satellite com, at the moment the ham radio bands are very quiet, no propagation, most likely due to atmospheric absorption.
 Quoting: Sovrn

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Buenas Dias amigo

Thanks for your input.

I was just tryn to get a grip on this in case we have an outage today. So I can explain it correctly to the powers that are.

Ya kno

peace
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If your the powers that be shouldnt you already know what the hell is going on?
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Re: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!
Here a good article: [link to www.news.com.au]

I believe satellites will stop working briefly when they get ionized enough by the charged particles. They will die when an X-ray hits the wrong thing inside. IIRC, satellites blackout for several hours to maybe a whole day, it depends on the storm.

You want doom? How about X-rays (which accompany CMEs) whacking a geosynchronous satellite and it starts to drift. If it hits another satellite then you will have debris moving through that important orbit that will eventually whack all the others making the entire orbit unusable forever. Something in geosynchronous orbit is up there for 100's of thousands of years.
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Boy your gullible...X rays dont travel with CMEs they are a component of light and travel at the speed of light as does all electromagnetic radiation and only takes 8 minutes to get here from the sun VS 2-3 days usually. Besides the worst of this hit yesterday already. Move along now..
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Would you please break this down to laymans terms?

Not all of us here know or have the time to learn the jargon used in this industry but ARE intelligent enough to understand a "simpler" explanation.

Thanks in advance

Idol1
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


Hiya Fred! Not likely to effect power grids themselves but possibly switching. More likely communications especially satellite com, at the moment the ham radio bands are very quiet, no propagation, most likely due to atmospheric absorption.
 Quoting: Sovrn

==================================================
Buenas Dias amigo

Thanks for your input.

I was just tryn to get a grip on this in case we have an outage today. So I can explain it correctly to the powers that are.

Ya kno

peace
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred



If your the powers that be shouldnt you already know what the hell is going on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266705


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Since when does managment know anything? They leave that to us ,,,, the worker bees,,, remember?

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Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy]



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Re: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!
I thought that was the ATLANTIC ocean
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Well, that is about the stupidist thing I have done in a while, but I am sure it wont be the last! I do know the difference. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It did actually start over Austrailia yesterday before moving over South America, and then out over the pacific as a much smaller area. I don't know why I did that! More coffee! 1rof1
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Here is an update on the position of the degredaded radio frequency field. I will put up the two original images that I posted along with the two most recent ones. Within the last hour a large portion of the area moved up the scale from the 5 to 10 MHZ range. See images below.

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Long-range communications using high frequency (HF) radio waves (3 - 30 MHz) depend on reflection of the signals in the ionosphere. Radio waves are typically reflected near the peak of the F2 layer (~300 km altitude), but along the path to the F2 peak and back the radio wave signal suffers attenuation due to absorption by the intervening ionosphere.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This area started off as very small after this latest round of large Solar Flares, and has continued to grow in size as it has traveled the globe. Below are two images taken within the past few hours that are approximately an hour appart. By comparing these images you can see the rate at which this area is progressing toward the Americas.

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Re: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!
Here is an update on the position of the degredaded radio frequency field. I will put up the two original images that I posted along with the two most recent ones. Within the last hour a large portion of the area moved up the scale from the 5 to 10 MHZ range. See images below.

:blackout1:
:blackout2:
:blackout3:
:blackout4:
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Hello!

Where is the link on NOAA where that map may be found?
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The purpleish blue gumdrop on earth is getting bigger.
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I've always liked the purple gumdrops the best.
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Oooh

gumdrops

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Excellent
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Re: Global "RADIO BLACKOUT ZONE" Marching across the Atlantic toward the Americas!
During an M-1 x flare on March 9, 2011 the ionisphere became saturated. Below is a look at the Global D Absorption Graph shortly after this event.

globaldmar9xflar

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Color me stupid but ...

The gumdrop area is vulnerable to disruption. Am I close ..
Tomato plants are notorious for being obnoxious. They're always like: "Look at me, I'm too sexy for my pot... too sexy for my pot."
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Color me stupid but ...

The gumdrop area is vulnerable to disruption. Am I close ..
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That's it in a nutshell.
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So... our AM radio is gonna be fucked up is all?
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Also some RFID's are in this frequency spectrum. Key fobs, garage door openers, security locking/unlocking mechanisms, key less entry etc. Watch all the folks who can't get into their houses because they can't open the garage door, but in their pocket is a key to the front door !!! Or, they say they can't get into their cars and when you tell them "use the key" they look at you dumbfounded. We're forgetting what we knew by a technical convenience and when that convenience is interrupted we panic.
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Would you please break this down to laymans terms?

Not all of us here know or have the time to learn the jargon used in this industry but ARE intelligent enough to understand a "simpler" explanation.

Thanks in advance

Idol1
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I will - Nibiru's Electromagentic Field is interferring with Radio Waves...
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bump

For a reply hopefully

Idol1
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love the avatar... but next time you want to use a pic of me please ask!!!
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During an M-1 x flare on March 9, 2011 the ionisphere became saturated. Below is a look at the Global D Absorption Graph shortly after this event.

globaldmar9xflar
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Nice date there
resist we much!
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THIS IS CURRENT

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


WOAHDY! [seen it worse]
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Here is an update on the position of the degredaded radio frequency field. I will put up the two original images that I posted along with the two most recent ones. Within the last hour a large portion of the area moved up the scale from the 5 to 10 MHZ range. See images below.

:blackout1:
:blackout2:
:blackout3:
:blackout4:
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Hello!

Where is the link on NOAA where that map may be found?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212835


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

i check this one one via

[link to solarham.com]

scroll down a bunch, it's on the left.
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Looks just like the bad guys on PAC-MAN
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Uhhhhh, this happens every day. Even I know that because I paid attention in school.

I guess they don't teach things like that either anymore.
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Would you please break this down to laymans terms?

Not all of us here know or have the time to learn the jargon used in this industry but ARE intelligent enough to understand a "simpler" explanation.

Thanks in advance

Idol1
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The purpleish blue gumdrop on earth is getting bigger.
 Quoting: antikythera


lolsign
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Long-range communications using high frequency (HF) radio waves (3 - 30 MHz) depend on reflection of the signals in the ionosphere. Radio waves are typically reflected near the peak of the F2 layer (~300 km altitude), but along the path to the F2 peak and back the radio wave signal suffers attenuation due to absorption by the intervening ionosphere.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This area started off as very small after this latest round of large Solar Flares, and has continued to grow in size as it has traveled the globe. Below are two images taken within the past few hours that are approximately an hour appart. By comparing these images you can see the rate at which this area is progressing toward the Americas.

:blackout1:
:blackout2:
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Animals will go into spontaneous rages and may turn on their owners. All cat and dog pet owners be advised to please have your pets on leashes in your homes or preferably outside your homes due to the potential danger of you getting mauled to shreds by your pets.
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