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Washington State House Bill 1716 Will Require Fingerprinting, Photo ID, Signature, Time and Date of ALL PRECIOUS METALS Transactions!

 
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Washington State House Bill 1716 Will Require Fingerprinting, Photo ID, Signature, Time and Date of ALL PRECIOUS METALS Transactions!
"Bill Introduced To Washington Legislature Shames Honest Money Holders

From the government loves you and that is why it is beating you file, legislation has been introduced to the Washington state legislature to track any sale of gold and silver above $100 by collecting every piece of biometric data they can. You can collect honest money, but the government will know everything about you, including what you eat for breakfast. And of course this is for informational purposes only! This has nothing to do with building a registry for confiscation of your precious metals later. Nope!

Honest money is being demonized because it puts power into the hands of the holder, and not in the hand of a bureaucrat who wants to control everything you do in life. An exerpt:

(2) ((This)) For any transaction involving property consisting of
a precious metal, every secondhand dealer or temporary, transient
secondhand dealer doing business in this state shall maintain wherever
that business is conducted a record in which shall be legibly written
in the English language, at the time of each transaction, the following
information:
(a) The signature and photo of the person with whom the transaction
is made. If the amount paid is greater than one hundred dollars, then
the signature, photo, and fingerprint of the person with whom the
transaction is made;
(b) The time and date of the transaction;
(c) The name of the person or employee or the identification number
of the person or employee conducting the transaction, as required by
the applicable chief of police or the county’s chief law enforcement
officer. If the amount paid is greater than one hundred dollars, then
the name of the person or employee or the identification number of the
person or employee conducting the transaction;
(d) The name, date of birth, sex, height, weight, race, and
residential address and telephone number of the person with whom the
transaction is made;"


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The fingers are closing, one at a time. The Mark of the Beast draweth nigh.

No man will be able to buy, or sell, unless he taketh the mark.

Cameras everywhere... Satellites... Computer databases... Check Points... And now you won't be able to purchase silver or gold, without the stamp of approval (and tracking) of the beast.
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ahhh
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ahhh
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wtf
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ahhh
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. . . good way for Senior Citizens to make money: buy gold for people . . .
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They want to know where the precious metals are so they can come and collect (confiscate) it from those who were wise enough to buy it.
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wtf, fingerprinting, mugshot, etc..,thats so much trouble for a measly 100 bucks.

And it seems very very similar to what the cops do to criminals they catch.
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ahhh
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You won't be so snide when reality finally sets in.

Sarcasm will be the very last thing on your mind.

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They did this during the Great Depression too. People started losing faith in the dollar and started buying gold and silver. So Congress passed a bill making it temporarily illegal to own gold or silver to stop the bleeding and then went and bought it back from everyone. Me thinks they might be setting up to do the same thing. Once the Depression was over they allowed gold and silver sales to continue. What they are doing with this law is tracking who buys precious metals so they can go do the same thing if need be and with this record it'd be hard to hide it. They will keep you in prison till they find it or you turn it over if they make it illegal to own again.
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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
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Guess if you really wanted to get around the new law you could always make lots of small purchases. That is what I would do. Screw them.
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If they want to make you go through all of this for just $100 (can't be too much actual metal, at today's prices), I wonder if/when you'll have to go through the same procedure if you buy over a certain dollar amount of food (so they can find the people with food stashes)?
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Does lead count? They can come and try to confiscate that from me.
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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257685


How is that going to help catch the criminals? They will just melt the gold jewerly down and then bring it to the seller.
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Are you trying to tell me that it will be easier to qualify to be the president of the United States than it will be to get some cash for some gold jewelry???
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Pfft. Doesn't surprise me.

Hometown is WA state and mother lives there.

They are broke.

They just made cuts to education and health care and a spew of other things that even Gregoire says is "immoral".

Everything is freakin regulated in the state - their liquor stores are all state regulated, cigarettes are taxed up the wazoo as well, Spokane County outlawed a few years ago laundry and soap materials containing phosphorus (all but KINDA expensive brands), lots of my friends escape 15 minutes over the border to Idaho to buy various things, hell, even gas sometimes.....

It's ironic, actually, because we have the highest minimum wage in the nation, BUT, the COL in most cities makes up for it. At least we don't have income tax, BUT, if they passed a bill for that, well, I'm not about to give them any ideas,but one wonders....
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So get your gold and silver before these cocksuckers have a chance to implement this crap. Then take it with you when you leave the US!

Fuck em!
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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257685



This doesn't make any sense to me! Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but wouldn't a thief be SELLING the metals, like at a pawn shop or something? I've never heard of a thief BUYING stuff! And how would my property value go down because of a burglary? Sorry for my ignorance!
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Pretty bad when your own government forces the only real world currency to go underground and into the black market. The shit is bananas.

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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
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bsflagThose who give up their freedoms for security will have neither.
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Washington is a beta test state to see if the residents will fight this bill. Anyone on GLP who lives in Washington state needs to contact their reps. and scream bloody murder about this bill. Hey, if you bother them enough maybe they will leave the state like Wisconsin's legislatures. Not a bad thing imo.
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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
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This would be the definition of false flag.
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Washington is a beta test state to see if the residents will fight this bill. Anyone on GLP who lives in Washington state needs to contact their reps. and scream bloody murder about this bill. Hey, if you bother them enough maybe they will leave the state like Wisconsin's legislatures. Not a bad thing imo.
 Quoting: ac 78573


If WA state is a beta test state, this is a losing battle.

WA state is a blue state because of one reason- King County, Sea-Tac area.

King County is HIGHLY liberal in view. Filled with technophiles who care more about their Starbucks and Amazon.com over anything else. Also have a really bad sense of entitlement and NIMBY-ism.

Granted, things are getting worse there anyways, as a result of those liberal problems meets budget cuts. The homeless population is rising and also not being served with appropriate services. Education got cut and there were rallies at state universities like UW about it. I remember when I went to the dentist in December, there were TONS of people there because Gregoire was about to cut vision and dental to tons of low-income workers until "at least 2014" (which is another word for "indefinitely")

Yessiree, the one thing I enjoy about Spokane, despite it being the "armpit of WA state"...if I ever need to bug out, the hills of Idaho where things are a little more sane are only 15 minutes away....Seattle can keep the crazy rioting.
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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257685



Uh uh, give them an inch and they will take a yard.

They are just getting the foot in the door.

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Washington is a beta test state to see if the residents will fight this bill. Anyone on GLP who lives in Washington state needs to contact their reps. and scream bloody murder about this bill. Hey, if you bother them enough maybe they will leave the state like Wisconsin's legislatures. Not a bad thing imo.
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If WA state is a beta test state, this is a losing battle.

WA state is a blue state because of one reason- King County, Sea-Tac area.

King County is HIGHLY liberal in view. Filled with technophiles who care more about their Starbucks and Amazon.com over anything else. Also have a really bad sense of entitlement and NIMBY-ism.

Granted, things are getting worse there anyways, as a result of those liberal problems meets budget cuts. The homeless population is rising and also not being served with appropriate services. Education got cut and there were rallies at state universities like UW about it. I remember when I went to the dentist in December, there were TONS of people there because Gregoire was about to cut vision and dental to tons of low-income workers until "at least 2014" (which is another word for "indefinitely")

Yessiree, the one thing I enjoy about Spokane, despite it being the "armpit of WA state"...if I ever need to bug out, the hills of Idaho where things are a little more sane are only 15 minutes away....Seattle can keep the crazy rioting.
 Quoting: RogueA007


Yea, i'm from the Spokane area as well. North Idaho is one of my bugout destinations, but now i'm second guessing it, everyone and their dog will be going up that way it seems.

resist
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Pretty bad when your own government forces the only real world currency to go underground and into the black market. The shit is bananas.

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Indeed.
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We've been teling you this forever...

www.gunsgrubandgold.com/forum/
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We've been teling you this forever...

www.gunsgrubandgold.com/forum/
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Telling us what exactly?

I've never heard of that website.
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Washington is a beta test state to see if the residents will fight this bill. Anyone on GLP who lives in Washington state needs to contact their reps. and scream bloody murder about this bill. Hey, if you bother them enough maybe they will leave the state like Wisconsin's legislatures. Not a bad thing imo.
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Roger that. Folks shouldn't stand for this type of fascism.
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The law makes more sense when you read the whole text.

Here's a little snippet that pretty much sums it up...

"The increasing number of "cash for gold" type transactions in
communities and neighborhoods throughout Washington has been linked to increased crimes involving the theft of gold and other precious metal objects, including home burglaries, robberies, and other crimes, resulting in depressed home values and other threats to the health, safety, and welfare of Washington state residents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257685


WOW.Do you really believe that.Wise up.
I am a bigger asshole than you can ever hope to be.God put me on this earth to let you know if your being a douche bag.If i bust your balls i am sorry,i am just doing my job.

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