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The Samson Option: Israel's "Last Resort"

 
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The Samson Option: Israel's "Last Resort"
>>> [link to en.wikipedia.org] <<<

The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.

As early as 1976, the CIA believed that Israel possessed 10 to 20 nuclear weapons. By 2002 it was estimated that the number had increased to between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range. Kenneth S. Brower has estimated as many as 400 nuclear weapons. These can be launched from land, sea and air. This gives Israel a second strike option even if much of the country is destroyed.


So far, so good. Now listen to this... yeahsure


The original conception of the Samson Option was only as deterrence. According to US journalist Seymour Hersh and Israeli historian Avner Cohen, Israeli leaders like David Ben-Gurion, Shimon Peres, Levi Eshkol and Moshe Dayan coined the phrase in the mid-1960s. They named it after the Biblical figure Samson, who pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself and thousands of Philistines who had gathered to see him humiliated. They contrasted it with ancient siege of Masada where 936 Jewish Sicarii greatly outnumbered by Roman legions committed mass suicide rather than be defeated and enslaved by the Romans.

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Too bad those nukes don't work no more...

Samsonic fail.
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Too bad those nukes don't work no more...
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How's that? rofl
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02/19/2011 08:10 PM
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You have to be kidding, not work anymore? Really? considering half of them were built in the last 20 years, enrichment continues to this day and some missiles could be as new as 1-2 years old particulary the ones being outfitted for Israels new subs.

Israel probably has the highest number of missiles that would fly... next to China perhaps who is also building new missiles regularly

no, they work, that whole region is doomed
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Well even at 400 nukes that aint enough to kill everyone. However in the aftermath it would be the end to all jews.
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02/19/2011 08:21 PM
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Very interesting post OP; so even if Israel is nuclear attacked 1st, she'll still be able to retaliate.

I think you're accurately describing the next war here.

This gives Israel a second strike option even if much of the country is destroyed. This sentence you quoted is striking because it's written about in Isaiah 17.

I feel safe referring to scripture because the article itself does.

Keep reading in Isaiah 17. Notice it decribes the war as a 1 Day War. Israel will be severely damaged, passage describes strong cities and crop damage, but Damascus will be "wiped off the map". Precisely what the Arabs wanted for Israel, but it appears to happen to them instead.

Verse 14 is where it indicates a 1 day war.

Does this sound reasonable to you after reading Isaiah?

Thanks for the post!
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Too bad those nukes don't work no more...

Samsonic fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1160448


Yes. This is technology that is more than half a century old, it is now considered obsolete for every concievable strategic purpose. Slightly interesting still for tactical purposes in the downsized variants but there are much better options.

Some states realized this earlier than others.
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well, end of israel maybe and you have to say maybe because 400 nukes is alot, let's face it if they took out cairo, mecca, medina, riyadh, bagdad, tripoli, tehran, dimashq and beirut for all intents and purposes they would have used 9 of 400 nukes and in all reality vanquished any effective response from any nearby enemy and have 391 nukes left

what would the world actually do, could Pakistan send a response? without war with India and the USA? Would Russia or China step in with military action being within range of 300 nukes? Lets face it, which ever side wins the conflict is over that moment, forever, within an hr and the Israelis have missile defense and the Iranians at best have a handful of missiles, Israel could survive and be sanctioned for the next 20 years but it's unlikely world leaders would take israel out, it's a card carrying NWO member with it's role to be realistic, we went into a huge economic mess over 2 buildings let alone a whole city

what world power is going to risk loosing a few cities to take Israel down, maybe the end of Israel but it would be a slow guilt ridden political thing TPTB worry about the environment too much they wont fly any nukes nor push Israel to have to launch more.

Consider the Samson option to be real the governments in the region are being overthrown, the people are taking out our pawns in power we will use Israel to get rid of the region entirely, their governments wont be NWO soon, the orders to destroy them can't be far behind
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Very interesting post OP; so even if Israel is nuclear attacked 1st, she'll still be able to retaliate.
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She? crazy

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Second-strike capability

* A first strike must not be capable of preventing a retaliatory second strike or else mutual destruction is not assured. In this case, a state would have nothing to lose with a first strike; or might try to preempt the development of an opponent's second-strike capability with a first strike (i.e., decapitation strike). To avoid this, countries may design their nuclear forces to make decapitation strike almost impossible, by dispersing launchers over wide areas and using a combination of sea-based, air-based, underground, and mobile land-based launchers.
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what would the world actually do, could Pakistan send a response? without war with India and the USA? Would Russia or China step in with military action being within range of 300 nukes?
 Quoting: superdave


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China is the NWO's main player.
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02/19/2011 08:37 PM
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actually I ouldn't agree more.

I think when we lost the spyplane over China during the Clinton administration it was actually an offering of technology and information and we have been allies ever since.

China wouldn't do squat if you ask me, I think the whole reason they have funded us was to soften the region, the only thing they will give a hoot about is being able to build a land based oil pipeline stretching from the gulf to the end of afghanistan to keep them fueled
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Israel will nuke New York. 911 the false flag part two.

Except this time they won't be detonated underground like on 911.
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