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I can prove the Illuminati does not exist, ask me anything

 
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ohh yeah then PROVE IT!
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Yes, the One Life also expresses itself as all other humans, all of the living world, and all of the non-living world as well. The aliveness is there in humans, cats, great white sharks, elephants, cuddly little lambs, one called animals, insects, etc. It is the same life. There is no distinction or separation between any of the life forms. None have more Aliveness than any other. Non have less Aliveness...as it is a quality of Aliveness, rather than quantity.

The One Life is educated in dualistic manner so reality is observed to create stories of light vs dark, this is right, no this is wrong, hot-cold, yes-no, girl-boy, up-down, love-hate, bad-good, to deeply understand the psychological play of words was formed. Our True Nature is not any of these words, labels, concepts, used to blame or praise. To have compassion toward this authentic education system, to enjoy this One Divine Conscious Life of being...being...wherever this One Life being takes you, here to there, to the beginning or to the end, in the cycles of birth-death, etc. lol~ well which one life is it? One Life is this invisible energy-space force between them-us, you-me, and the beat goes on.....beat goes on...Thanks Cher-Bono for this terrific song!

Natural functioning of a human is functioning in the absence of the "Me", the Reference Point, which is a Product of conceptual thought. Living without an identity crisis. No illusory "ME" claiming Life.

Natural Functioning in the human way includes the full range of opposites in all their glory (Duality), as it does for all living forms.5a
It is an error to expect that Natural Functioning only includes the "Good Stuff". It includes all the so called "Bad Stuff" as well. No cherry picking here.

Our true nature is not the 'me'.
Our true nature is not the 'human' with its Natural Functioning either.
Our true nature is not a form of Life--it is Life itself.

Life Lives Us. We are Lived!5a Dance, Love, Live, Laugh!!
Right!!
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Just want to say a couple things - it's unlikely the illuminati exist.. if it's based on the mayan calendar which didn't account for Caesar creating the leap year then the new world order would have been put in place 4 years ago.
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Buddy, the illuminati is not "based on the mayan calendar", and more importantly the Mayan Calendar does NOT need to account for the leap year because it was more ACCURATE than our Gregorian calendar (which is why WE had to create the leap year in the first place). Get a clue.
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There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
 Quoting: Conspiracy debunker 1224153

Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

rockon
 Quoting: Xibalbá be


My point was not to argue the existance of good and evil.

Please follow the topic.

Also, evil is just the abscence of good, and since God is Good, evil is the abscence of God. Unless you want to argue that God created his nonexistance? In which case I will assume you're mentally incompetent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1224153


Who says god is good?

Prove me that god is good and i will follow the "topic"

If you try to disprove the existence of an evil organization that CLEARLY exists by challenging a fact proposed by some david wilcock(nutjob) then you are OBVIOUSLY on the wrong path.

The illuminati are tied in with the Skull and bones 322 fraternity.

Oh...322?

Let me "enlighten" you then.

Genesis 3:22

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"...

You have no fucking idea who rules our planet mate...

I'm sorry but trying to find a purpose for your existence is futile,of course this is gods divine plan.

But he won't intervene with it...so what happens,happens.

We can only HOPE that it will turn out for the good.

But in the grand scheme of things,our lives might not be worth anything at all...especially if we were designed to be slaves to a superior race.

The best evidence of illuminati is the music industry.

Now i hope your not ignorant,if you do some research you will see.

DMX was staged and put to jail because he started singing about jesus and making "anti illuminati" songs.

Michael jackson was killed for this.

Eminem is struggling with depression and all the wrong decisions he made in his life...(joining the illuminati)

Jay-z admits selling his soul to the devil along with rihanna and Kanye west.

When they "sell their soul to the devil" they sign a contract where they agree to promote the lyrics and messages and illuminati symbolism in their songs.(this is why you see SEX,DRUGS,MONEY in almost every rap-hip hop music genre and music videos)

If they refuse to do this,their image is destroyed by the illuminati(they are put in magazines with drugged up faces and the headline always says they got busted with weed or some kind of animal cruelty)

If they still don't learn eventually they will be killed like MJ.

Sigh...every day you live under the spell,it's called money:




 Quoting: Xibalbá be

i am answering a bit late,but as a secret organisation,why would the music industry show so much of the illuminati? so they would be more famous? they were supposed to be secret...enlighten me please.
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The evolution we know is not complete, we miss the part of the annunaki
Those who came to earth from planet nibiru planed x ,
the annukai they made us from monkey to human they failed
Cause we supposed to be talent suppior knowledge, they playd with
Are DNA , Marie the virgin , the same way we make a virgin pregnant now
Is the way she did, the ark of Noah is a DNA bank the pyramids is the same story all those Bibles or holly books are based on one story that's bin secret until you've got internet search please.. Is one of the reasons why the illuminati started in the begin 1600 like that, the reptilians symbolism all one part of the beginning of the first superior society
Before that we were the smarted kind of animal not,as human searh for proof
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The evolution we know is not complete, we miss the part of the annunaki
Those who came to earth from planet nibiru planed x ,
the annukai they made us from monkey to human they failed
Cause we supposed to be talent suppior knowledge, they playd with
Are DNA , Marie the virgin , the same way we make a virgin pregnant now
Is the way she did, the ark of Noah is a DNA bank the pyramids is the same story all those Bibles or holly books are based on one story that's bin secret until you've got internet search please.. Is one of the reasons why the illuminati started in the begin 1600 like that, the reptilians symbolism all one part of the beginning of the first superior society
Before that we were the smarted kind of animal not,as human searh for proof
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Re: I can prove the Illuminati does not exist, ask me anything
There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
 Quoting: Conspiracy debunker 1224153

Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

rockon
 Quoting: Xibalbá be


My point was not to argue the existance of good and evil.

Please follow the topic.

Also, evil is just the abscence of good, and since God is Good, evil is the abscence of God. Unless you want to argue that God created his nonexistance? In which case I will assume you're mentally incompetent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1224153


Who says god is good?

Prove me that god is good and i will follow the "topic"

If you try to disprove the existence of an evil organization that CLEARLY exists by challenging a fact proposed by some david wilcock(nutjob) then you are OBVIOUSLY on the wrong path.

The illuminati are tied in with the Skull and bones 322 fraternity.

Oh...322?

Let me "enlighten" you then.

Genesis 3:22

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"...

You have no fucking idea who rules our planet mate...

I'm sorry but trying to find a purpose for your existence is futile,of course this is gods divine plan.

But he won't intervene with it...so what happens,happens.

We can only HOPE that it will turn out for the good.

But in the grand scheme of things,our lives might not be worth anything at all...especially if we were designed to be slaves to a superior race.

The best evidence of illuminati is the music industry.

Now i hope your not ignorant,if you do some research you will see.

DMX was staged and put to jail because he started singing about jesus and making "anti illuminati" songs.

Michael jackson was killed for this.

Eminem is struggling with depression and all the wrong decisions he made in his life...(joining the illuminati)

Jay-z admits selling his soul to the devil along with rihanna and Kanye west.

When they "sell their soul to the devil" they sign a contract where they agree to promote the lyrics and messages and illuminati symbolism in their songs.(this is why you see SEX,DRUGS,MONEY in almost every rap-hip hop music genre and music videos)

If they refuse to do this,their image is destroyed by the illuminati(they are put in magazines with drugged up faces and the headline always says they got busted with weed or some kind of animal cruelty)

If they still don't learn eventually they will be killed like MJ.

Sigh...every day you live under the spell,it's called money:




 Quoting: Xibalbá be


There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
 Quoting: Conspiracy debunker 1224153

Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

rockon
 Quoting: Xibalbá be


My point was not to argue the existance of good and evil.

Please follow the topic.

Also, evil is just the abscence of good, and since God is Good, evil is the abscence of God. Unless you want to argue that God created his nonexistance? In which case I will assume you're mentally incompetent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1224153


Who says god is good?

Prove me that god is good and i will follow the "topic"

If you try to disprove the existence of an evil organization that CLEARLY exists by challenging a fact proposed by some david wilcock(nutjob) then you are OBVIOUSLY on the wrong path.

The illuminati are tied in with the Skull and bones 322 fraternity.

Oh...322?

Let me "enlighten" you then.

Genesis 3:22

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"...

You have no fucking idea who rules our planet mate...

I'm sorry but trying to find a purpose for your existence is futile,of course this is gods divine plan.

But he won't intervene with it...so what happens,happens.

We can only HOPE that it will turn out for the good.

But in the grand scheme of things,our lives might not be worth anything at all...especially if we were designed to be slaves to a superior race.

The best evidence of illuminati is the music industry.

Now i hope your not ignorant,if you do some research you will see.

DMX was staged and put to jail because he started singing about jesus and making "anti illuminati" songs.

Michael jackson was killed for this.

Eminem is struggling with depression and all the wrong decisions he made in his life...(joining the illuminati)

Jay-z admits selling his soul to the devil along with rihanna and Kanye west.

When they "sell their soul to the devil" they sign a contract where they agree to promote the lyrics and messages and illuminati symbolism in their songs.(this is why you see SEX,DRUGS,MONEY in almost every rap-hip hop music genre and music videos)

If they refuse to do this,their image is destroyed by the illuminati(they are put in magazines with drugged up faces and the headline always says they got busted with weed or some kind of animal cruelty)

If they still don't learn eventually they will be killed like MJ.

Sigh...every day you live under the spell,it's called money:




 Quoting: Xibalbá be


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, the One Life also expresses itself as all other humans, all of the living world, and all of the non-living world as well. The aliveness is there in humans, cats, great white sharks, elephants, cuddly little lambs, one called animals, insects, etc. It is the same life. There is no distinction or separation between any of the life forms. None have more Aliveness than any other. Non have less Aliveness...as it is a quality of Aliveness, rather than quantity.

The One Life is educated in dualistic manner so reality is observed to create stories of light vs dark, this is right, no this is wrong, hot-cold, yes-no, girl-boy, up-down, love-hate, bad-good, to deeply understand the psychological play of words was formed. Our True Nature is not any of these words, labels, concepts, used to blame or praise. To have compassion toward this authentic education system, to enjoy this One Divine Conscious Life of being...being...wherever this One Life being takes you, here to there, to the beginning or to the end, in the cycles of birth-death, etc. lol~ well which one life is it? One Life is this invisible energy-space force between them-us, you-me, and the beat goes on.....beat goes on...Thanks Cher-Bono for this terrific song!

Natural functioning of a human is functioning in the absence of the "Me", the Reference Point, which is a Product of conceptual thought. Living without an identity crisis. No illusory "ME" claiming Life.

Natural Functioning in the human way includes the full range of opposites in all their glory (Duality), as it does for all living forms.5a
It is an error to expect that Natural Functioning only includes the "Good Stuff". It includes all the so called "Bad Stuff" as well. No cherry picking here.

Our true nature is not the 'me'.
Our true nature is not the 'human' with its Natural Functioning either.
Our true nature is not a form of Life--it is Life itself.

Life Lives Us. We are Lived!5a Dance, Love, Live, Laugh!!
 Quoting: bouncingbear


Sure sure Stop Thinking This life as we know it is The realist. Ill uminati exsist and they live by the draconis law. Loooong looong time ago they where called tempelars, Satanic Vloodlines they are ,@ this time they Lost all. " They failed to be what they claimed to be. If they did not existed , we would had lived on the other timeline, Now we lived full of shit , always some war going on , some crisis ( visual cirkel of crap) and this in the garden of eden. Well they almost made all of humanity ---> slaves , by taking bit by bit away from us, and putting nasty laws we cant fight against .Lucky Genuis(ses) saw it and spread their knowledge. Its time to wake up , but without fear , since their name is spread out to far for them to clear it , ENJOY what is going to come one of these days ;o).. if you dont understand me Just w8 that moment ( sooner then you think) to see it for yourself(s). If you still dont believe , have a nice Trip for many years the start Open your mind and learn what people allready have done , before you
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Illuminati are thousands of years old. Initiations are based on the planetary degrees and transits.
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illuminati exist and they rule the world
also op is a fag

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Why don't we just go play minecraft :3
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...

Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

rockon
 Quoting: Xibalbá be


My point was not to argue the existance of good and evil.

Please follow the topic.

Also, evil is just the abscence of good, and since God is Good, evil is the abscence of God. Unless you want to argue that God created his nonexistance? In which case I will assume you're mentally incompetent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1224153


Who says god is good?

Prove me that god is good and i will follow the "topic"

If you try to disprove the existence of an evil organization that CLEARLY exists by challenging a fact proposed by some david wilcock(nutjob) then you are OBVIOUSLY on the wrong path.

The illuminati are tied in with the Skull and bones 322 fraternity.

Oh...322?

Let me "enlighten" you then.

Genesis 3:22

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"...

You have no fucking idea who rules our planet mate...

I'm sorry but trying to find a purpose for your existence is futile,of course this is gods divine plan.

But he won't intervene with it...so what happens,happens.

We can only HOPE that it will turn out for the good.

But in the grand scheme of things,our lives might not be worth anything at all...especially if we were designed to be slaves to a superior race.

The best evidence of illuminati is the music industry.

Now i hope your not ignorant,if you do some research you will see.

DMX was staged and put to jail because he started singing about jesus and making "anti illuminati" songs.

Michael jackson was killed for this.

Eminem is struggling with depression and all the wrong decisions he made in his life...(joining the illuminati)

Jay-z admits selling his soul to the devil along with rihanna and Kanye west.

When they "sell their soul to the devil" they sign a contract where they agree to promote the lyrics and messages and illuminati symbolism in their songs.(this is why you see SEX,DRUGS,MONEY in almost every rap-hip hop music genre and music videos)

If they refuse to do this,their image is destroyed by the illuminati(they are put in magazines with drugged up faces and the headline always says they got busted with weed or some kind of animal cruelty)

If they still don't learn eventually they will be killed like MJ.

Sigh...every day you live under the spell,it's called money:




 Quoting: Xibalbá be


...

Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

rockon
 Quoting: Xibalbá be


My point was not to argue the existance of good and evil.

Please follow the topic.

Also, evil is just the abscence of good, and since God is Good, evil is the abscence of God. Unless you want to argue that God created his nonexistance? In which case I will assume you're mentally incompetent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1224153


Who says god is good?

Prove me that god is good and i will follow the "topic"

If you try to disprove the existence of an evil organization that CLEARLY exists by challenging a fact proposed by some david wilcock(nutjob) then you are OBVIOUSLY on the wrong path.

The illuminati are tied in with the Skull and bones 322 fraternity.

Oh...322?

Let me "enlighten" you then.

Genesis 3:22

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"...

You have no fucking idea who rules our planet mate...

I'm sorry but trying to find a purpose for your existence is futile,of course this is gods divine plan.

But he won't intervene with it...so what happens,happens.

We can only HOPE that it will turn out for the good.

But in the grand scheme of things,our lives might not be worth anything at all...especially if we were designed to be slaves to a superior race.

The best evidence of illuminati is the music industry.

Now i hope your not ignorant,if you do some research you will see.

DMX was staged and put to jail because he started singing about jesus and making "anti illuminati" songs.

Michael jackson was killed for this.

Eminem is struggling with depression and all the wrong decisions he made in his life...(joining the illuminati)

Jay-z admits selling his soul to the devil along with rihanna and Kanye west.

When they "sell their soul to the devil" they sign a contract where they agree to promote the lyrics and messages and illuminati symbolism in their songs.(this is why you see SEX,DRUGS,MONEY in almost every rap-hip hop music genre and music videos)

If they refuse to do this,their image is destroyed by the illuminati(they are put in magazines with drugged up faces and the headline always says they got busted with weed or some kind of animal cruelty)

If they still don't learn eventually they will be killed like MJ.

Sigh...every day you live under the spell,it's called money:




 Quoting: Xibalbá be


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"DMX was staged and put to jail because he started singing about jesus and making "anti illuminati" songs."
-that is still part of the conspiracy without proof so you cant use that as a strong point to proove something as fact

"Michael jackson was killed for this."
you cannot prove that either.

"Eminem is struggling with depression and all the wrong decisions he made in his life...(joining the illuminati)"
porve that? or is everyone else who is changing there lives from drugs(something he started well before being famous) do not become depressed.

"Jay-z admits selling his soul to the devil along with rihanna and Kanye west."
selling their should has been a metaphor used since literature for a very long time. He also has said he is not in the Illuminati. Now why would he say both things. Maybe controversy=sales

"When they "sell their soul to the devil" they sign a contract where they agree to promote the lyrics and messages and illuminati symbolism in their songs.(this is why you see SEX,DRUGS,MONEY in almost every rap-hip hop music genre and music videos)"
-now i cannot dissprve this but as long as their has never been a video footage that has surfaced to the masses which in this time would not be very difficult i do not think it is in the more logical side



"If they refuse to do this,their image is destroyed by the illuminati(they are put in magazines with drugged up faces and the headline always says they got busted with weed or some kind of animal cruelty)"

people get busted with drugs and animal cruelty. If you are a celebrity this becomes news, and negative news last longer and is more popular. Bad to say but people do not care as much about happy stories as they are less intense


"who says god is good?

"Prove me that god is good and i will follow the "topic""


-this is the problem of evil.
how can a all-loving god and all-powerful God have a world with so more evil and sufffering.

NOONE can answer this. this is a philosophical debate that no one can win.
however, to try and use it to prove atheism i think atheism is not as logical as people try and make it seem.

Problem of evil. If there is a God he is an infinite being how can a human who is a finite being understand all things a God can. it would be impossible

Also if there is no God then how can you argue the first Cause theory. For every thing there must have been a cause. Sort of which came first the chicken or the Egg. There had to of been a first cuase. It must have been infinite some say that could be the big bang. but what caused the big bang, and what cuased what cuased it etc.
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The Illuminati are actually good people, sided with Light Beings but well...you are too bullheaded and worthless to realize this.
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There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
 Quoting: Conspiracy debunker 1224153



I can't wait til you idiots learn.yodayoda
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The Illuminati are actually good people, sided with Light Beings but well...you are too bullheaded and worthless to realize this.
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oh really??? is that why bohemian grove exists? is that what all the symbolism is for? so everyone they've threatened the lives of and everyone who mysteriously and suddenly "disappeared" when they spoke of the illuminati is just coincidental? oh so they dont want to take over the world? give me a fucking break. had they not started shit with the galactic federation over this planet the past 2 million + years would have been completely different than this hell we live in now. o, and if they are "light" beings, why do they promote darkness, sex, rituals, incest, rape, murder, control, food & dna manipulation. please explain how these genetic masters of evil are light beings.wtf
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I also hope you all realize that all religion is complete bullshit. there is no man in the sky, there is no god. this thing that you rely on to judge us, have a divine plan, all that crap mixed together = nothing. WE ARE GOD, OUR SOULS HAVE THE GOD POWER, WE HAVE MANIPULATED DNA SO EVERY TIME WE REBIRTH WE FORGET EVERYTHING SACRED AND MEANINGFUL. WE ARE OUR OWN GOD, WE MAKE OUR OWN RULES AND REALITY, AND WE JUDGE OURSELVES. QUIT KIDDING YOURSELF AND THROW AWAY YOUR SECURITY BLANKET. YOU DON'T NEED IT
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There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
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Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

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Xibalbá be >>> !!! READ ALL OF THIS !!! <<<



God did not himself create Evil. According the the Christian Religion, Adam and Eve were the first to sin, God did not choose this or make them to do this because God chooses to not mess with free will.

He let's us make our own choices, for if he fixed everything we did wrong, we would learn nothing from our mistakes.

God did not create the Devil. Satan was an angel in Heaven who wanted the power God did, so God banished him from Heaven to Hell, which God did create, but God did not make the Devil evil or what Hell actually is.(Fire, torture, etc)

There can be good without evil, that's the world God expects and is why he sends the atheists or non-worshipers to Hell so they can be punished. God is a violent god and will happily punish/kill atheists.

Some people, like you, think that the phrase "God cannot exist without the Devil" means "Good cannot exist without Evil". That is not what it means. It means you cannot believe in God and not believe in the Devil because the Devil exists if God does, for God banished the Devil to Hell.

Good without Evil means, in order for there to be Good, there has to be Evil. But that phrase is untrue for that is God's expectation of the World.

Therefore, YOUR point is utterly and completely destroyed.

P.S The Eye of Horus or the "One Eye" symbol is not a bad symbol. It is the Eye of an Egyptian God, Horus. He was said to be the God of War and Hunting, and became a model of Majesty and Power. The Devil may have little power, but is he majestic? No.

Some people say the All Seeing Eye is referring to Satan, but he spectates the World as much as God does, so this cannot be confirmed, but either way, if it was referring to Satan, he is just a spectator.

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Shadowkiller 58, if God does not exist, how do you believe we got here? Evolution, (why are monkeys still not evolving into men), Big bang theory ( oh come on now!). So, if you are smart enough to "know" there is no God, what do you believe? There have been many people a whole lot more itelligent than you try to prove the Bible untrue. Know what, many of them ended up with more proof it is true! Check it out. Don't lose your soul blindly.
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Evolution is a scientific fact. It's you creationist idiots that call it a "theory'. It does't state that we evolved directly from chimps, but that we evolved from a common ancestor. Chimps don't evolve because they are well suited to they're environment. Plus evolution isn't a magic wand that changes shit instantly. shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about. how do you expect to disprove anything when you're a moron. Go fuck yourself, and have a nice day.
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i qoute ""The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil" thats what you said, so why the fuck was the greek GOD HADES the lord of the DAMNED hes not a good GOD but he is a GOD the Illuminati DOES exist but your christian mind CANT accept that fact because once again i quote (not you) "GOD will save us all" if thats the case then why the fuck didnt he stop the civil war? WWI? WWII? the korean war? THE FUCKING WAR IN IRAQ? why does he let THOUSANDS DIE for no reason... Oh thats right THERE IS NO FUCKING GOD
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God does indeed exist. Want to know the reason God does not prevent the violence himself? For one thing....he is not a controlling god. If he fixes the terrible deeds.....then what? He gave everyone free will. The bad will continue to do bad.

God doesn`t fix things for us, nor does he hold our hand. He gives us the ability to do things ourselves. Take Sampson, for instance, who had great strength. God did not instantly bestow super strength onto Sampson. Merely, he allowed Sampson to live a lifestyle which demanded enormous strength.

God doesn`t stop the violence, but instead, gives us the strength to stop doing the dirty deed, and/or gets a disciple to persuade them to do otherwise. Whether we choose to listen, or not, is up to us, as we have free will.
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True enough... There is no such thing as an enlightened despot. But that doesn't keep a whole heap of pretenders from trying their little souls into oblivion.

Or rather, I should say, there is only one enlightened despot, and God has more than enough fools crowding his spot already.
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Shadowkiller 58, if God does not exist, how do you believe we got here? Evolution, (why are monkeys still not evolving into men), Big bang theory ( oh come on now!). So, if you are smart enough to "know" there is no God, what do you believe? There have been many people a whole lot more itelligent than you try to prove the Bible untrue. Know what, many of them ended up with more proof it is true! Check it out. Don't lose your soul blindly.
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Evolution is a scientific fact. It's you creationist idiots that call it a "theory'. It does't state that we evolved directly from chimps, but that we evolved from a common ancestor. Chimps don't evolve because they are well suited to they're environment. Plus evolution isn't a magic wand that changes shit instantly. shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about. how do you expect to disprove anything when you're a moron. Go fuck yourself, and have a nice day.
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Evolution doesn`t disprove the notion of God. It is my belief that it is God who created this world, as it will grow and spit out life all it`s own. God did not just snap his fingers and create life. Life, of course, has to evolve. We (and other creatures), constantly change to suit our environment/habits.

I believe that, just as the bible says.....we came out of the earth. Before there was life on the planet, something upon this earth said that it could, basically, support life. And so it did. If a planet has all the necessary ingredients to support life.....it will.

There must be some greater force behind all of this, because, where does the material come from necessary to create life, and how did it become 'designed', basically, to do this?

What i mean is.....how and why is a planet capable of producing life? Does this prove the existence of God? No, but it does leave us with a ton of questions.

Likewise, how did this universe come into existence? How did some cosmic explosion cause the material within the universe to expand, shape itself, and produce life?

Don`t tell me it just.....happened? Are you saying the universe formed itself and produced life without some influence to get it going?
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True enough... There is no such thing as an enlightened despot. But that doesn't keep a whole heap of pretenders from trying their little souls into oblivion.

Or rather, I should say, there is only one enlightened despot, and God has more than enough fools crowding his spot already.
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I agree, but, to get back on topic....i don`t think there is an illuminati of today. It just seems to me that it would be impossible for them to function as a group for much too long. Why would they attempt to destroy the thing that put money in their own pockets?
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There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
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Your right and wrong at the same time....

Lucifer is the author of the coming NWO/Tribulation....and lucifer's agent is the Illuminati...and God is using Lucifer to bring about HIS AGENDA.

Jesus wins.
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True archeology suspects that planet earth was settled by advanced beings 430,000 years ago, in South Africa, in desperate need of gold, for the sake of their own planet. They had to step up, the then evolving homosapiens, genetically, to create slaves and do the hard labor.
Illuminati are descendants of a blood line of the so called creator gods interbreeding with their own creation. Our creators were not gods, they were more likely a little more advanced than we are now, but great geneticists.
We inherited all their problems and the Illuminati surely can represent them well. This planet needs desperately cosmic help, and some of the new souls, born the past few generations, are doing just that.
You are nothing but a super intelligent robot, my friend, and perhaps trilled by your abilities to manipulate and enslave others, but our problems, on this planet are are real, and they must be solved.
I wish you well and pray to the creator of the universe, for your soul, with all my heart.
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There is no secret society controlling world affairs. Everything that is happening is part of the divine plan. We were meant to go through eveything that is happening right now, it is all part of the great cleansing. There is no single group of people in charge of this.
Ddavid Wilcock says "The Illuminati are Gods seeking power and wealth"
Gods are nelightened beings, that means they have no ego and are in touch with the Good. Enlightened beings cause good, not evil. Why would they be interested in power and wealth?

There is no such thing as the Illuminati and I can counter any argument about this.
 Quoting: Conspiracy debunker 1224153

Mate,god created both good and evil.

If it wasn't for god,there would be no evil.

If there was no evil,people wouldn't know the meaning of good.

Your point is utterly and completely destroyed.

Have a nice day!

rockon
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My point was not to argue the existance of good and evil.

Please follow the topic.

Also, evil is just the abscence of good, and since God is Good, evil is the abscence of God. Unless you want to argue that God created his nonexistance? In which case I will assume you're mentally incompetent
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You can't even write your own language....
and besides assumption is the mother of all fuckups.

Sorta proofs the illuminati exists as you are their product.
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Why would a sane human being waste time trying to prove the non-existence of an existing organisation??? I wonder... The freemasons exist, the skull and bone exist, the bohemian grove/club, all of these secret socities are all part of the illuminatti/satanists/devil worshippers. So why would we even waste time discussing whether they exist or not when they obviously exist, and there are entire websites devoted to spreading their (evil) messages. If you are one of those still wondering whether they exist or not then u nid help. Atheists????? I pity them all. How can a sane human being believe that there is no God??? Psalms 14:1 'The fool says to himself that there is no God'. Why does evil come back at the evildoers??? Who keeps the record of your evil deeds??? Oxygen? Soil? Are you sick? God(Jehovah) keeps the record and you, my friend will give an account to Him, on Judgement Day of every useless word you have ever spoken (Matthew 12:36), so too bad for the atheist coz you will also be judged for not believing, jus saying
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Yes, the One Life also expresses itself as all other humans, all of the living world, and all of the non-living world as well. The aliveness is there in humans, cats, great white sharks, elephants, cuddly little lambs, one called animals, insects, etc. It is the same life. There is no distinction or separation between any of the life forms. None have more Aliveness than any other. Non have less Aliveness...as it is a quality of Aliveness, rather than quantity.

The One Life is educated in dualistic manner so reality is observed to create stories of light vs dark, this is right, no this is wrong, hot-cold, yes-no, girl-boy, up-down, love-hate, bad-good, to deeply understand the psychological play of words was formed. Our True Nature is not any of these words, labels, concepts, used to blame or praise. To have compassion toward this authentic education system, to enjoy this One Divine Conscious Life of being...being...wherever this One Life being takes you, here to there, to the beginning or to the end, in the cycles of birth-death, etc. lol~ well which one life is it? One Life is this invisible energy-space force between them-us, you-me, and the beat goes on.....beat goes on...Thanks Cher-Bono for this terrific song!

Natural functioning of a human is functioning in the absence of the "Me", the Reference Point, which is a Product of conceptual thought. Living without an identity crisis. No illusory "ME" claiming Life.

Natural Functioning in the human way includes the full range of opposites in all their glory (Duality), as it does for all living forms.5a
It is an error to expect that Natural Functioning only includes the "Good Stuff". It includes all the so called "Bad Stuff" as well. No cherry picking here.

Our true nature is not the 'me'.
Our true nature is not the 'human' with its Natural Functioning either.
Our true nature is not a form of Life--it is Life itself.

Life Lives Us. We are Lived!5a Dance, Love, Live, Laugh!!
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Yes, the One Life also expresses itself as all other humans, all of the living world, and all of the non-living world as well. The aliveness is there in humans, cats, great white sharks, elephants, cuddly little lambs, one called animals, insects, etc. It is the same life. There is no distinction or separation between any of the life forms. None have more Aliveness than any other. Non have less Aliveness...as it is a quality of Aliveness, rather than quantity.

The One Life is educated in dualistic manner so reality is observed to create stories of light vs dark, this is right, no this is wrong, hot-cold, yes-no, girl-boy, up-down, love-hate, bad-good, to deeply understand the psychological play of words was formed. Our True Nature is not any of these words, labels, concepts, used to blame or praise. To have compassion toward this authentic education system, to enjoy this One Divine Conscious Life of being...being...wherever this One Life being takes you, here to there, to the beginning or to the end, in the cycles of birth-death, etc. lol~ well which one life is it? One Life is this invisible energy-space force between them-us, you-me, and the beat goes on.....beat goes on...Thanks Cher-Bono for this terrific song!

Natural functioning of a human is functioning in the absence of the "Me", the Reference Point, which is a Product of conceptual thought. Living without an identity crisis. No illusory "ME" claiming Life.

Natural Functioning in the human way includes the full range of opposites in all their glory (Duality), as it does for all living forms.5a
It is an error to expect that Natural Functioning only includes the "Good Stuff". It includes all the so called "Bad Stuff" as well. No cherry picking here.

Our true nature is not the 'me'.
Our true nature is not the 'human' with its Natural Functioning either.
Our true nature is not a form of Life--it is Life itself.

Life Lives Us. We are Lived!5a Dance, Love, Live, Laugh!!
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sorry bouncingbear (u seem lyk a freemason) refusing the 'me' is trying to escape responsibility for your own actions, which is redikulas, coz u will still have to face the judgement for them, so pliz stop hiding in some philosophical, somewhat confused, big words, u r jus kidding yourself
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Shadowkiller 58, if God does not exist, how do you believe we got here? Evolution, (why are monkeys still not evolving into men), Big bang theory ( oh come on now!). So, if you are smart enough to "know" there is no God, what do you believe? There have been many people a whole lot more itelligent than you try to prove the Bible untrue. Know what, many of them ended up with more proof it is true! Check it out. Don't lose your soul blindly.
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Evolution is a scientific fact. It's you creationist idiots that call it a "theory'. It does't state that we evolved directly from chimps, but that we evolved from a common ancestor. Chimps don't evolve because they are well suited to they're environment. Plus evolution isn't a magic wand that changes shit instantly. shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about. how do you expect to disprove anything when you're a moron. Go fuck yourself, and have a nice day.
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actually scientific facts are stuff proved by experiments, while i do believe in natural selection i don't believe in evolution, for the first animal or plant to come about there first had to be a cell and for there to be a cell there first had to be dna and for there to be dna there had to be proteins,and for a protein to come about a series of amino acids would have to have been formed without being disrupted whatsoever, the whole idea of inorganic reactions creating organic molecules might have a little truth but you again misjudge the complexity of proteins in that they need to be kept in very pristine conditions to maintain its shape and the theorized reaction that would make these proteins would destroy them at the very same instant, also with the production of the amino acids to make certain proteins for life the production for each amino acids enantiomers comes into play and while the regular amino acids have affects that are productive for life there is also the high chance that the enantiomers would have negative effects. the chance for your theory of evolution is very unlikely and the only way for life to be possible is in fact the creationist theory.
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God created good. Evil arose when lucifer decided to act because of his jealous. When he got kicked out of heaven, he decided to act more on his envy because he wanted almighty power. Even though he was an angel, he had the will to think negatively about it. Now the mentality of people now is going from being the subordinate under God to becoming powerful. Evil has the potential to rise just as well as good. The war rages on but everyone is contradicting their stand point about who worships who. I do believe that the illuminati is there because the idea didn't rise up in thin air. I believe some of them are trying to hide the fact that they were exposed. Wouldn't you believe that if the illuminati exists as rebellions to God being the almighty ruler He because they want the subliminal power over everyone? Just saying.
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