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Martial law. What would happen?

 
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Martial law. What would happen?
If Obama was to enable Martial law in the United States how would this effect the small Rural areas of America?
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I live in rural America. Am I to see military and law enforcement patrolling my community, country and county roads? Because I truly don't think that kind of stuff would fly here....
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Most importantly, there would be no habeus corpus -- you could be picked up for any reason and detained indefinately. Otherwise, curfews would be implemented. Weapons, food, and precious metals would be likely be seized. Internet would likely be shut down.
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Most importantly, there would be no habeus corpus -- you could be picked up for any reason and detained indefinately. Otherwise, curfews would be implemented. Weapons, food, and precious metals would be likely be seized. Internet would likely be shut down.
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What makes you think this isn't already the case?
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All the components and functions of martial law would be relevant in the rural areas just the same as non-rural areas. The local police/Sherriff would be bound to carry out orders/directives.

I would imagine that at least a majority of "Police" have good intentions and are not the blood thirsty thugs they’re made out to be. So as long as everyone works together and stays civilized, I bet things would not be so bad.

Of course you're going to have the asshole(s) that burn down buildings and steal but that's usually a small percentage of the population, especially in rural areas.

Even whe the SHTF people for the most part will do the right thing.
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Martial law? never!....


Marshall law? yes!
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Martial law? never!....


Marshall law? yes!
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OBAMA LAW... Just a way for the powers TPTB to keep there puppet in power for as long as they want....
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They better be delicate about it. It wont take much to light the fuse.
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They better be delicate about it. It wont take much to light the fuse.
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I'm afraid the fuse is lit and I'm also afraid its a pretty damn short fuse.
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Gives a new meaning to the words ``THE HILLS HAVE EYES``
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I live in rural America. Am I to see military and law enforcement patrolling my community, country and county roads? Because I truly don't think that kind of stuff would fly here....
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Well, according to various emergency directives under FEMA, the govt -- who has been taking farm produce censuses for years now -- can confiscate any food or animals that they want. However, you're correct, they'd have to pry it from our cold dead hands along with our defense mechanisms. My hollow in WV has one way in and a whole lot of good squirrel and deer shooters on the way out. I wouldn't want to run that gauntlet.
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Most importantly, there would be no habeus corpus -- you could be picked up for any reason and detained indefinately. Otherwise, curfews would be implemented. Weapons, food, and precious metals would be likely be seized. Internet would likely be shut down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271877


What makes you think this isn't already the case?
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Yes, thanks to defense laws passed since 9/11, if the President (and presumably his minions) declare you to be a threat to the American govt., all this applies.
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Re: Martial law. What would happen?
All the components and functions of martial law would be relevant in the rural areas just the same as non-rural areas. The local police/Sherriff would be bound to carry out orders/directives.

I would imagine that at least a majority of "Police" have good intentions and are not the blood thirsty thugs they’re made out to be. So as long as everyone works together and stays civilized, I bet things would not be so bad.

Of course you're going to have the asshole(s) that burn down buildings and steal but that's usually a small percentage of the population, especially in rural areas.

Even whe the SHTF people for the most part will do the right thing.
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I don't think you would see much in the way of military patrols in many rural areas that are not close to military bases. I live 3 hours from the nearest large city and I seriously doubt any military units would waste their time pocking around my neck of the woods. Unless of course you have a fema camp in your back yard.
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I live in rural America. Am I to see military and law enforcement patrolling my community, country and county roads? Because I truly don't think that kind of stuff would fly here....
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Well, according to various emergency directives under FEMA, the govt -- who has been taking farm produce censuses for years now -- can confiscate any food or animals that they want. However, you're correct, they'd have to pry it from our cold dead hands along with our defense mechanisms. My hollow in WV has one way in and a whole lot of good squirrel and deer shooters on the way out. I wouldn't want to run that gauntlet.
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But we will be called terrorists, even though we are just protecting our way of life. It will be like the NEW WILD WILD WILD WEST..
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Martial law? never!....


Marshall law? yes!
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It's Mourshall lawl go get a brian.
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I would like to think that our military boys would not take arms against us but I know many young guys from my area that are military and have been truly brain washed, totally different guys than before they enlisted.
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Re: Martial law. What would happen?
All the components and functions of martial law would be relevant in the rural areas just the same as non-rural areas. The local police/Sherriff would be bound to carry out orders/directives.

I would imagine that at least a majority of "Police" have good intentions and are not the blood thirsty thugs they’re made out to be. So as long as everyone works together and stays civilized, I bet things would not be so bad.

Of course you're going to have the asshole(s) that burn down buildings and steal but that's usually a small percentage of the population, especially in rural areas.

Even whe the SHTF people for the most part will do the right thing.
 Quoting: Hack Jammer


I don't think you would see much in the way of military patrols in many rural areas that are not close to military bases. I live 3 hours from the nearest large city and I seriously doubt any military units would waste their time pocking around my neck of the woods. Unless of course you have a fema camp in your back yard.
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This place is close to where I live and is not too farfetched to believe it could hold a few "belligerent" conspiracy theorists. [link to maps.google.com]

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Re: Martial law. What would happen?
It's nice to have discussions with fellow people with brains. Most people want to just stick there head in the sand and ignore the problems.....We all know the truth, or atleast as much as the truth as we can put together with the facts that are provided by fellow GLP'ERS. Thank GOD for you guys. With out you we would not get half the news and facts we do, even though you have to dig through bullshit on here sometimes.
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Sammo Hung would round up the troublemakers.

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Thank you TRIN and ext for providing us a place to crash... :)
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The martial law concept in the U.S. is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is often equated with martial law.[citation needed] Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval. On October 1, 2002 United States Northern Command was established to provide command and control of Department of Defense homeland defense efforts and to coordinate defense support of civil authorities.[13]

The National Guard is an exception, since unless federalized, they are under the control of state governors.[14] This was changed briefly: Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122), was signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, and allowed the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities. Title V, Subtitle B, Part II, Section 525(a) of the JWDAA of 2007 reads "The [military] Secretary [of the Army, Navy or Air Force] concerned may order a member of a reserve component under the Secretary's jurisdiction to active duty...The training or duty ordered to be performed...may include...support of operations or missions undertaken by the member's unit at the request of the President or Secretary of Defense."[15] The President signed the Defense Authorization Act of 2008 on January 13, 2008. However, Section 1068 in the enacted 2008 defense authorization bill (H.R. 4986: "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008") repealed this section of PL 109-364
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