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"CHALCO, State of Mexico, July 28 .- A new crack about four kilometers long, up to 10 feet wide, opened in the town of Huexoculco, which remains fearful neighbors, as they have also opened tunnels.

The neighbors explained that the new crack is parallel to a line that opened the previous 15 days ago, so some sections are joined by what has been expanded four times.

They believe that the crack is four kilometers long, six deep, 10 meters wide. "

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S4.V157,158 "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
S19.V88 to 93 "And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.You have done an atrocious thing.The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
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 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$

9nania , the same girl that predicted the EQ of Japan.
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funny coincidence that i leave for nature life begin (max middle) september. Divine plan ftw.

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S4.V157,158 "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
S19.V88 to 93 "And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.You have done an atrocious thing.The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
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bump
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I guess the horse, the swinger and their socks have gone preparing their "bugout-bags". happydance
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What is Terral going to do for fun (or maybe a living as a professional debunker) when Comet Elenin passes by this fall and there is NO pole shift and the earth changes only get worse after it goes on by? What then?

Noticed that one of Terral's biggest "fans" is already distancing itself from the Comet Elenin hoax as fast as possible. Why? Because it suddenly dawned on the "ning" owner at the so-called Earth Changes "College" that she and her followers are going to look like total fools and idiots when nothing happens. That's why! And to think that "ning" bashes ZetaTalk which has an incredible prediction track record over any tiny, insignificant discrepancy, but when Elenin passes and there is no pole shift, there will be dead silence and no explanation at all about the many months of pushing Elenin as the cause of earth changes and the pending pole shift. NOTHING will be said there. How can they/she? When nothing happens?

It suddenly dawned on her that the fall is not far off; THAT is the reason for the sudden backing off of the Comet Elenin hoax there!
 Quoting: Not a Coward 588885


Yeah... no one is as good as Nancy at making excuses for failed claims.
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What is Terral going to do for fun (or maybe a living as a professional debunker) when Comet Elenin passes by this fall and there is NO pole shift and the earth changes only get worse after it goes on by? What then?

Noticed that one of Terral's biggest "fans" is already distancing itself from the Comet Elenin hoax as fast as possible. Why? Because it suddenly dawned on the "ning" owner at the so-called Earth Changes "College" that she and her followers are going to look like total fools and idiots when nothing happens. That's why! And to think that "ning" bashes ZetaTalk which has an incredible prediction track record over any tiny, insignificant discrepancy, but when Elenin passes and there is no pole shift, there will be dead silence and no explanation at all about the many months of pushing Elenin as the cause of earth changes and the pending pole shift. NOTHING will be said there. How can they/she? When nothing happens?

It suddenly dawned on her that the fall is not far off; THAT is the reason for the sudden backing off of the Comet Elenin hoax there!
 Quoting: Not a Coward 588885


Yeah... no one is as good as Nancy at making excuses for failed claims.
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You just keep telling yourself that within the next three months.
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You just keep telling yourself that within the next three months.
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He's not the one delusional enough to believe in a nonexistent celestial objects based on YouTube videos.
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if you hear at shills, they will tell you that those never seen before "changes" are due to fairy and unicorns...and they are totally shameless when they spit such B.S...
S4.V157,158 "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
S19.V88 to 93 "And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.You have done an atrocious thing.The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
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...they will tell you that those never seen before "changes" are due to fairy and unicorns...and they are totally shameless when they spit such B.S...
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Perhaps you can point out which "changes" have "never been seen before".
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You just keep telling yourself that within the next three months.
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He's not the one delusional enough to believe in a nonexistent celestial objects based on YouTube videos.
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What is Terral going to do for fun (or maybe a living as a professional debunker) when Comet Elenin passes by this fall and there is NO pole shift and the earth changes only get worse after it goes on by? What then?

Noticed that one of Terral's biggest "fans" is already distancing itself from the Comet Elenin hoax as fast as possible. Why? Because it suddenly dawned on the "ning" owner at the so-called Earth Changes "College" that she and her followers are going to look like total fools and idiots when nothing happens. That's why! And to think that "ning" bashes ZetaTalk which has an incredible prediction track record over any tiny, insignificant discrepancy, but when Elenin passes and there is no pole shift, there will be dead silence and no explanation at all about the many months of pushing Elenin as the cause of earth changes and the pending pole shift. NOTHING will be said there. How can they/she? When nothing happens?

It suddenly dawned on her that the fall is not far off; THAT is the reason for the sudden backing off of the Comet Elenin hoax there!
 Quoting: Not a Coward 588885


Yeah... no one is as good as Nancy at making excuses for failed claims.
 Quoting: Menow 1484674


Well, at least we all know who Nancy is, and she has been sticking her neck out, by being a messenger for the Zetas.

Now, what we do NOT know, is what a "Menow" is, and if an identity has ever been established, in case we want to hold this individual accountable, for all the ridicule it has thrown Nancy's way.

What will happen is this no name identity labeled "Menow" will quietly disappear, when the manure hits the fan, and we will never know who this coward was, who has been hiding behind a computer, and dishing out insults, aimed at Nancy, and her followers, all these years.
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I believe that something is following Elenin, as I have believed ever since one of my first videos ever on youtube.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Fine. I've got no problem with that.

Just know that when you post things on public forums the public reads them. And there are going to be certain members of the public who may disagree with you. Particularly if they assess what you've written and deem it to be....wrong.

I believe it to be any given celestial object or phenomena, not discovered by science yet.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Fine. Just know though, that when you make arguments ilke that...the debate can potentially kind of...end.

I mean....do you see where discussion becomes futile? It's an unfalsifiable claim.

You can claim the Thundercats are riding on jet skis behind Elenin because "science hasn't discovered they're not". You can kind of say anything you want.

Which can leave people wondering how (if at all) to respond.

Still, moving on.

Ranging from star types to bursts from distant super novas or closer black holes.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


These are all rather well-studied objects/phenomena.

I'm NOT saying there COULDN'T be some absolutely unprecedented, mind-bogglingly unexpected "thing" following Elenin which fits into one of the categories you've listed above.

I'd be all ears....if you just gave a bit more than what you've given. Because what you've given is basically...just a single sentence. The sentence I've quoted above.

I've actually read a lot about stars. I'm not a doctor or a scientist, but stars are one of my favorite things to read about in astronomy. If you were to give some kind of comprehensive idea/theory explaining this lethal star-like object following Elenin....I'd be all ears.

I can say though if something "was" following Elenin it wouldn't be a "distant" supernova because supernovae are....distant. And it wouldn't be a black hole because black holes...don't follow around comets. They'd have no reason to. Black holes are among the most-dense objects in nature. It'd swallow up a comet before it'd ever trail behind it, if anything.

Another theory of mine is that Elening might be accompanied by hughe ammounts of dark matter and what is, in fact affecting the solar system, and not the comet itself. I base that assumption on the fact that the comet is hyperbolic, comming from outside the solar system.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Dark energy/dark matter is a tricky thing. It makes up 80-90% (allegedly) of everything that exists....yet we can't see it or detect it.

Well...we can "detect" it, but in very roundabout ways (such as in the motions of spiral galaxies and gravitational lensing, ect...).

But I'm not entirely sold at all on the "mainstream" idea of dark/energy/matter and I think it's going to be "modified" by future discoveries probably sooner than later.

BUT ANYWAY, in relation to what you wrote....I don't know. Maybe.

See- fine. You have these theories. Great. But...be comprehensive. It's one thing to just throw things out there ("I think whatever it is might be something not discovered by science yet"/"I think Elenin might be carrying with it dark energy/matter") it's something ELSE to back it up with....at least a little evidence.

And I'm not sure what you mean by Elenin comes from "outside" the Solar System....(?)

I haven't read anything about Elenin being an interstellar object. Most comets come from the Oort Clouds, which marks a sort of de facto "border" of the Solar System, but is not outside of it.

But yeah, I haven't read anything about that yet...

You can not in any scientifically accepted way prove that I am 100% wrong. There is allways the posibility of something missing to the picture.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


You're right.

But it's a futile point.

If you're expecting ANYTHING to EVER be 100% proven without a shred of doubt...it's never going to happen. There's always something "missing".

But there are degrees of evidence. And sometimes the evidence (though never 100%) is profound.

It's up to you I guess. If you want to not believe anything that isn't 100% airtight...that's your right.

But your "ideas" are subject to the same standard.

I also believe in multiverses and diverse quantum physics theories.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Lots of people a lot smarter than me do also. I've read some. I think it's very interesting.

I think that it is you that is making a fool of yourself
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


lol...

claiming that we today have all relevant information and understand everything about space and our existance in it.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


I've never said that.

Never said that. Never will.

I've actually advocated, in many ways, in many threads, the fact that so much in astronomy is as of yet undiscovered is what makes it SO interesting.

I've posted this before- check out any issue of any monthly astronomy magazine. It will be OVERFLOWING with articles about NEW discoveries. As well as articles raising unanswered QUESTIONS.

This is something I've said countless times on this site. You'd search for a very long time if you were trying to find a post of mine where I say we "have all relevant information and understand everything space and our existence in it."

I've never said that. Never will. Don't believe it. Never will. Never have.

What many of you "believers" can't seem to moderate apparently is this: just because there is lots we DON'T know (and there is lots) it doesn't mean there isn't much we DO.

There ARE aspects of astronomy that are VERY well studied.

Have been for centuries. A millenia.

The research is there. The studies are out there for your scrutiny.

The evidence is there. It's ALL there.

If it doesn't meet your personal standards....then fine.

But I've read a lot. And it makes sense to me.


If you were right, we could stop all space exploring projects today, because they would be a total waste of both time and money.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


lol...again, I've never said that.

One thing I will agree with you is, yes, anyone who DID think that way would be a fool.

Mankind would hence not evolve further, it is thanks to people like myself that are open minded that we continue to evolve and thanks to people like yourself, that we are not evolving fast enough.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


...I have no idea where you got this idea that I thought there was nothing "left to discover".

There's so much.

I really don't expect you to understand the above but I have at least given it my best try.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


lol....Where is this condescension coming from? What's so "difficult" to understand about what you wrote?

I'm not saying what you wrote was "dumb" or "nonsensical". It's just....Jesus, don't flatter yourself. It wasn't a "chore".

Did you know that Elenin is the first documented hyperbolic comet in the history of mankind and what are your thoughts on that?
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


No, I had no idea. If it's true it's news to me (Elenin is not at the top of my daily "to-do list").... and it's totally interesting.

It's certainly probably not the first or the last.

Shit whizzes through the interstellar medium all the time. There are planets and brown dwarves and asteroids and even stars flung out from the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way blasting their way around out there, constantly.

If Elenin did not originate from the Oort Cloud...then I wonder where the hell it came from...? If what you said is true. It's interesting though. I'll go read up on it.

That's what I think though.

(I have to say I don't recall ever seeing the term "hyperbolic" in any of these contexts either....But then again I can't recall ever reading about any extrasolar comets either....I guess I'll read up...)
No one would be happier than me if we could remain in mutual respect of each other despite of diametrically different opinions on reality.
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Ditto.
If you promise to keep the insults to yourself, I promise to behave.
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Cool.


Deal?
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Absolutely. Deal.
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What is Terral going to do for fun (or maybe a living as a professional debunker) when Comet Elenin passes by this fall and there is NO pole shift and the earth changes only get worse after it goes on by? What then?

Noticed that one of Terral's biggest "fans" is already distancing itself from the Comet Elenin hoax as fast as possible. Why? Because it suddenly dawned on the "ning" owner at the so-called Earth Changes "College" that she and her followers are going to look like total fools and idiots when nothing happens. That's why! And to think that "ning" bashes ZetaTalk which has an incredible prediction track record over any tiny, insignificant discrepancy, but when Elenin passes and there is no pole shift, there will be dead silence and no explanation at all about the many months of pushing Elenin as the cause of earth changes and the pending pole shift. NOTHING will be said there. How can they/she? When nothing happens?

It suddenly dawned on her that the fall is not far off; THAT is the reason for the sudden backing off of the Comet Elenin hoax there!
 Quoting: Not a Coward 588885


Yeah... no one is as good as Nancy at making excuses for failed claims.
 Quoting: Menow 1484674


Well, at least we all know who Nancy is, and she has been sticking her neck out, by being a messenger for the Zetas.

Now, what we do NOT know, is what a "Menow" is, and if an identity has ever been established, in case we want to hold this individual accountable, for all the ridicule it has thrown Nancy's way.

What will happen is this no name identity labeled "Menow" will quietly disappear, when the manure hits the fan, and we will never know who this coward was, who has been hiding behind a computer, and dishing out insults, aimed at Nancy, and her followers, all these years.
 Quoting: Volar 1387606


On the top of [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] under the name, you can read; Classification: Hyperbolic Comet

On [link to en.wikipedia.org] you can read; Only a few hundred comets have been seen to achieve a hyperbolic orbit when near perihelion[32] that using a heliocentric unperturbed two-body best-fit suggests they may escape the Solar System. No comets with an eccentricity significantly greater than one have been observed,[32] so there are no confirmed observations of comets that are likely to have originated outside the Solar System.

Sorry about the wiki link, but it was the best I could do.

So what do you think about Elenin now, considering it is not just a small uninteresting dirty snowball, it is actually a once in mankind event.
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I believe that something is following Elenin, as I have believed ever since one of my first videos ever on youtube.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Fine. I've got no problem with that.

Just know that when you post things on public forums the public reads them. And there are going to be certain members of the public who may disagree with you. Particularly if they assess what you've written and deem it to be....wrong.

I believe it to be any given celestial object or phenomena, not discovered by science yet.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Fine. Just know though, that when you make arguments ilke that...the debate can potentially kind of...end.

I mean....do you see where discussion becomes futile? It's an unfalsifiable claim.

You can claim the Thundercats are riding on jet skis behind Elenin because "science hasn't discovered they're not". You can kind of say anything you want.

Which can leave people wondering how (if at all) to respond.

Still, moving on.

Ranging from star types to bursts from distant super novas or closer black holes.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


These are all rather well-studied objects/phenomena.

I'm NOT saying there COULDN'T be some absolutely unprecedented, mind-bogglingly unexpected "thing" following Elenin which fits into one of the categories you've listed above.

I'd be all ears....if you just gave a bit more than what you've given. Because what you've given is basically...just a single sentence. The sentence I've quoted above.

I've actually read a lot about stars. I'm not a doctor or a scientist, but stars are one of my favorite things to read about in astronomy. If you were to give some kind of comprehensive idea/theory explaining this lethal star-like object following Elenin....I'd be all ears.

I can say though if something "was" following Elenin it wouldn't be a "distant" supernova because supernovae are....distant. And it wouldn't be a black hole because black holes...don't follow around comets. They'd have no reason to. Black holes are among the most-dense objects in nature. It'd swallow up a comet before it'd ever trail behind it, if anything.

Another theory of mine is that Elening might be accompanied by hughe ammounts of dark matter and what is, in fact affecting the solar system, and not the comet itself. I base that assumption on the fact that the comet is hyperbolic, comming from outside the solar system.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Dark energy/dark matter is a tricky thing. It makes up 80-90% (allegedly) of everything that exists....yet we can't see it or detect it.

Well...we can "detect" it, but in very roundabout ways (such as in the motions of spiral galaxies and gravitational lensing, ect...).

But I'm not entirely sold at all on the "mainstream" idea of dark/energy/matter and I think it's going to be "modified" by future discoveries probably sooner than later.

BUT ANYWAY, in relation to what you wrote....I don't know. Maybe.

See- fine. You have these theories. Great. But...be comprehensive. It's one thing to just throw things out there ("I think whatever it is might be something not discovered by science yet"/"I think Elenin might be carrying with it dark energy/matter") it's something ELSE to back it up with....at least a little evidence.

And I'm not sure what you mean by Elenin comes from "outside" the Solar System....(?)

I haven't read anything about Elenin being an interstellar object. Most comets come from the Oort Clouds, which marks a sort of de facto "border" of the Solar System, but is not outside of it.

But yeah, I haven't read anything about that yet...

You can not in any scientifically accepted way prove that I am 100% wrong. There is allways the posibility of something missing to the picture.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


You're right.

But it's a futile point.

If you're expecting ANYTHING to EVER be 100% proven without a shred of doubt...it's never going to happen. There's always something "missing".

But there are degrees of evidence. And sometimes the evidence (though never 100%) is profound.

It's up to you I guess. If you want to not believe anything that isn't 100% airtight...that's your right.

But your "ideas" are subject to the same standard.

I also believe in multiverses and diverse quantum physics theories.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Lots of people a lot smarter than me do also. I've read some. I think it's very interesting.

I think that it is you that is making a fool of yourself
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


lol...

claiming that we today have all relevant information and understand everything about space and our existance in it.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


I've never said that.

Never said that. Never will.

I've actually advocated, in many ways, in many threads, the fact that so much in astronomy is as of yet undiscovered is what makes it SO interesting.

I've posted this before- check out any issue of any monthly astronomy magazine. It will be OVERFLOWING with articles about NEW discoveries. As well as articles raising unanswered QUESTIONS.

This is something I've said countless times on this site. You'd search for a very long time if you were trying to find a post of mine where I say we "have all relevant information and understand everything space and our existence in it."

I've never said that. Never will. Don't believe it. Never will. Never have.

What many of you "believers" can't seem to moderate apparently is this: just because there is lots we DON'T know (and there is lots) it doesn't mean there isn't much we DO.

There ARE aspects of astronomy that are VERY well studied.

Have been for centuries. A millenia.

The research is there. The studies are out there for your scrutiny.

The evidence is there. It's ALL there.

If it doesn't meet your personal standards....then fine.

But I've read a lot. And it makes sense to me.


If you were right, we could stop all space exploring projects today, because they would be a total waste of both time and money.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


lol...again, I've never said that.

One thing I will agree with you is, yes, anyone who DID think that way would be a fool.

Mankind would hence not evolve further, it is thanks to people like myself that are open minded that we continue to evolve and thanks to people like yourself, that we are not evolving fast enough.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


...I have no idea where you got this idea that I thought there was nothing "left to discover".

There's so much.

I really don't expect you to understand the above but I have at least given it my best try.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


lol....Where is this condescension coming from? What's so "difficult" to understand about what you wrote?

I'm not saying what you wrote was "dumb" or "nonsensical". It's just....Jesus, don't flatter yourself. It wasn't a "chore".

Did you know that Elenin is the first documented hyperbolic comet in the history of mankind and what are your thoughts on that?
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


No, I had no idea. If it's true it's news to me (Elenin is not at the top of my daily "to-do list").... and it's totally interesting.

It's certainly probably not the first or the last.

Shit whizzes through the interstellar medium all the time. There are planets and brown dwarves and asteroids and even stars flung out from the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way blasting their way around out there, constantly.

If Elenin did not originate from the Oort Cloud...then I wonder where the hell it came from...? If what you said is true. It's interesting though. I'll go read up on it.

That's what I think though.

(I have to say I don't recall ever seeing the term "hyperbolic" in any of these contexts either....But then again I can't recall ever reading about any extrasolar comets either....I guess I'll read up...)
No one would be happier than me if we could remain in mutual respect of each other despite of diametrically different opinions on reality.
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Ditto.
If you promise to keep the insults to yourself, I promise to behave.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Cool.
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Deal?
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Absolutely. Deal.


On the top of [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] under the name, you can read; Classification: Hyperbolic Comet

On [link to en.wikipedia.org] you can read; Only a few hundred comets have been seen to achieve a hyperbolic orbit when near perihelion[32] that using a heliocentric unperturbed two-body best-fit suggests they may escape the Solar System. No comets with an eccentricity significantly greater than one have been observed,[32] so there are no confirmed observations of comets that are likely to have originated outside the Solar System.

Sorry about the wiki link, but it was the best I could do.

So what do you think about Elenin now, considering it is not just a small uninteresting dirty snowball, it is actually a once in mankind event.

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On the top of [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] under the name, you can read; Classification: Hyperbolic Comet

On [link to en.wikipedia.org] you can read; Only a few hundred comets have been seen to achieve a hyperbolic orbit when near perihelion[32] that using a heliocentric unperturbed two-body best-fit suggests they may escape the Solar System. No comets with an eccentricity significantly greater than one have been observed,[32] so there are no confirmed observations of comets that are likely to have originated outside the Solar System.

Sorry about the wiki link, but it was the best I could do, but as you can see on the jpl, the eccentricity is 1.000062959364038. This has never before happened in the world of science and you have missed it. Usually the eccentricity drops below 1 later but Elenin does not!

So what do you think about Elenin now, considering it is not just a small uninteresting dirty snowball, it is actually a once in mankind event.

What are your thoughts on that NASA and the science world are not talking about this - once in mankind event?

This is actually the only claim I can back up.

The rest of the evidence could be purely circumstantial. They are just a gut feeling that something is wrong, same as millions of other people feel. I'm just trying to make sense about it and waking up other people if I'm right. I feel that I am obligated to.

The rest has to wait until the end of this year and perhaps the next year.

I will not go anywhere if I'm wrong, I actually hope nothing will happen.

If nothing happens, I will post a comment here and on youtube admiting I was wrong.

I sure hope I am.

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I believe that something is following Elenin, as I have believed ever since one of my first videos ever on youtube.
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Fine. I've got no problem with that.

Just know that when you post things on public forums the public reads them. And there are going to be certain members of the public who may disagree with you. Particularly if they assess what you've written and deem it to be....wrong.

I believe it to be any given celestial object or phenomena, not discovered by science yet.
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Fine. Just know though, that when you make arguments ilke that...the debate can potentially kind of...end.

I mean....do you see where discussion becomes futile? It's an unfalsifiable claim.

You can claim the Thundercats are riding on jet skis behind Elenin because "science hasn't discovered they're not". You can kind of say anything you want.

Which can leave people wondering how (if at all) to respond.

Still, moving on.

Ranging from star types to bursts from distant super novas or closer black holes.
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These are all rather well-studied objects/phenomena.

I'm NOT saying there COULDN'T be some absolutely unprecedented, mind-bogglingly unexpected "thing" following Elenin which fits into one of the categories you've listed above.

I'd be all ears....if you just gave a bit more than what you've given. Because what you've given is basically...just a single sentence. The sentence I've quoted above.

I've actually read a lot about stars. I'm not a doctor or a scientist, but stars are one of my favorite things to read about in astronomy. If you were to give some kind of comprehensive idea/theory explaining this lethal star-like object following Elenin....I'd be all ears.

I can say though if something "was" following Elenin it wouldn't be a "distant" supernova because supernovae are....distant. And it wouldn't be a black hole because black holes...don't follow around comets. They'd have no reason to. Black holes are among the most-dense objects in nature. It'd swallow up a comet before it'd ever trail behind it, if anything.

Another theory of mine is that Elening might be accompanied by hughe ammounts of dark matter and what is, in fact affecting the solar system, and not the comet itself. I base that assumption on the fact that the comet is hyperbolic, comming from outside the solar system.
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Dark energy/dark matter is a tricky thing. It makes up 80-90% (allegedly) of everything that exists....yet we can't see it or detect it.

Well...we can "detect" it, but in very roundabout ways (such as in the motions of spiral galaxies and gravitational lensing, ect...).

But I'm not entirely sold at all on the "mainstream" idea of dark/energy/matter and I think it's going to be "modified" by future discoveries probably sooner than later.

BUT ANYWAY, in relation to what you wrote....I don't know. Maybe.

See- fine. You have these theories. Great. But...be comprehensive. It's one thing to just throw things out there ("I think whatever it is might be something not discovered by science yet"/"I think Elenin might be carrying with it dark energy/matter") it's something ELSE to back it up with....at least a little evidence.

And I'm not sure what you mean by Elenin comes from "outside" the Solar System....(?)

I haven't read anything about Elenin being an interstellar object. Most comets come from the Oort Clouds, which marks a sort of de facto "border" of the Solar System, but is not outside of it.

But yeah, I haven't read anything about that yet...

You can not in any scientifically accepted way prove that I am 100% wrong. There is allways the posibility of something missing to the picture.
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You're right.

But it's a futile point.

If you're expecting ANYTHING to EVER be 100% proven without a shred of doubt...it's never going to happen. There's always something "missing".

But there are degrees of evidence. And sometimes the evidence (though never 100%) is profound.

It's up to you I guess. If you want to not believe anything that isn't 100% airtight...that's your right.

But your "ideas" are subject to the same standard.

I also believe in multiverses and diverse quantum physics theories.
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Lots of people a lot smarter than me do also. I've read some. I think it's very interesting.

I think that it is you that is making a fool of yourself
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lol...

claiming that we today have all relevant information and understand everything about space and our existance in it.
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I've never said that.

Never said that. Never will.

I've actually advocated, in many ways, in many threads, the fact that so much in astronomy is as of yet undiscovered is what makes it SO interesting.

I've posted this before- check out any issue of any monthly astronomy magazine. It will be OVERFLOWING with articles about NEW discoveries. As well as articles raising unanswered QUESTIONS.

This is something I've said countless times on this site. You'd search for a very long time if you were trying to find a post of mine where I say we "have all relevant information and understand everything space and our existence in it."

I've never said that. Never will. Don't believe it. Never will. Never have.

What many of you "believers" can't seem to moderate apparently is this: just because there is lots we DON'T know (and there is lots) it doesn't mean there isn't much we DO.

There ARE aspects of astronomy that are VERY well studied.

Have been for centuries. A millenia.

The research is there. The studies are out there for your scrutiny.

The evidence is there. It's ALL there.

If it doesn't meet your personal standards....then fine.

But I've read a lot. And it makes sense to me.


If you were right, we could stop all space exploring projects today, because they would be a total waste of both time and money.
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lol...again, I've never said that.

One thing I will agree with you is, yes, anyone who DID think that way would be a fool.

Mankind would hence not evolve further, it is thanks to people like myself that are open minded that we continue to evolve and thanks to people like yourself, that we are not evolving fast enough.
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...I have no idea where you got this idea that I thought there was nothing "left to discover".

There's so much.

I really don't expect you to understand the above but I have at least given it my best try.
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lol....Where is this condescension coming from? What's so "difficult" to understand about what you wrote?

I'm not saying what you wrote was "dumb" or "nonsensical". It's just....Jesus, don't flatter yourself. It wasn't a "chore".

Did you know that Elenin is the first documented hyperbolic comet in the history of mankind and what are your thoughts on that?
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No, I had no idea. If it's true it's news to me (Elenin is not at the top of my daily "to-do list").... and it's totally interesting.

It's certainly probably not the first or the last.

Shit whizzes through the interstellar medium all the time. There are planets and brown dwarves and asteroids and even stars flung out from the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way blasting their way around out there, constantly.

If Elenin did not originate from the Oort Cloud...then I wonder where the hell it came from...? If what you said is true. It's interesting though. I'll go read up on it.

That's what I think though.

(I have to say I don't recall ever seeing the term "hyperbolic" in any of these contexts either....But then again I can't recall ever reading about any extrasolar comets either....I guess I'll read up...)
No one would be happier than me if we could remain in mutual respect of each other despite of diametrically different opinions on reality.
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Ditto.
If you promise to keep the insults to yourself, I promise to behave.
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Cool.
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Deal?
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Absolutely. Deal.





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You better check this out!

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Please support: [link to www.solarham.com] which is the best solar sight out there.
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It appears that this anomaly coincided with a M6 solar flare procuced from sunspot 1261 at 13:47 UT.

It also triggered a R2 radio blackout temporarily and my technical equipment in Sweden flickered for a split second.

The worst hit though, did the Atlantic Ocean take. :o)

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

It also produced a significant CME [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] about the size of the sun itself.

This CME is most likely earth directed and would be geo-effective together with the two earlier m-class flares allready inbound.

Buckle up, we're in for a bumpy ride.

If you like to monitor the solar flux; [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] it updates automatically every minute in real-time.

Here; [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] is the latest STEREO ahead Core2 images with 30 minutes delay.

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Image [link to www.solarham.com]

Image [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Latest updates and images from STEREO AHEAD cor2 [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Latest data from 6-hour GOES X-ray Flux [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Please support [link to www.solarham.com] at [link to www.solarham.com]

The sun is a big mass of energy. The sun produces high energy protons, and the solar wind carries these protons towards our planet. However during solar flare activity, energetic protons are blown violently outwards.. sometimes towards earth. Energetic protons can reach Earth within 30 minutes of a major flare's peak. During such an event (big ones are also known as Solar Proton Events), Earth is showered with highly energetic solar particles (primarily protons) released from the flare site. When these protons arrive at Earth and enter the atmosphere over the polar regions, much enhanced ionization is produced at altitudes below 100 km. Ionization at these low altitudes is particularly effective in absorbing HF radio signals and can render HF communications impossible throughout the polar regions. This effect is called Radio Blackouts. This type of event is also known as a Polar Cap Absorption Event or PCA.

An S1 solar radiation storm is in progress, it is well on its way to reach S2. [link to www.solarham.com]
and [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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As predicted by analysts at the GSFC Space Weather Lab, the first of three CMEs produced by the recent spate of flare activity reached Earth during the late hours of August 4th. The impact was weak and is not expected to produce strong geomagnetic storms. Two more CMEs are still on the way and, as described below, they may have merged into a single cloud that could produce significant storming when they reach Earth on August 5th around 10:00 UT.

Moving at an estimated speed of 1950 km/s, this CME is expected to sweep up an earlier CME already en route. Analysts at the GSFC Space Weather Lab say the combined cloud should reach Earth on August 5th at 10:00 UT plus or minus 7 hours: "The impact on Earth is likely to be major. The estimated maximum geomagnetic activity index level Kp is 7 (Kp ranges from 0 - 9). The flanks of the CME may also impact STEREO A, Mars and Mercury/MESSENGER." High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras.

Remember that an "near S2" Solar Radiation Storm is allready in progress as this hits us.
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[link to spaceobs.org]

Diameter of coma of comet Elenin exceeded 200,000 km
August 4th, 2011 | Author: Leonid Elenin

GFSC / NASA / L. Elenin
A few hours ago I got the first original comet images in FITS format, taken on August 1 (many thanks to Karl Battams, STEREO team member). Several frames was damaged, but the team believes that will solve this problem at the next session. I stacked all images by the comet movement, this has increase the singnal/noise ratio, see the comet with more “details”.

So, the first results. The comet has grown. Now the diameter of it’s outer coma exceeded 200,000 km! Of course, at this time we have only low resolution images, but they still allow us to estimateits current size. I want to remind you that the outer coma, it’s very discharged gas envelope, not the nucleus itself, estimates of the nucleus size has not changed. On the left picture you can see the comet itself, as well as the angular size of the Sun, if it was located at the same distance as comet. Impressive?

IMAGE: [link to spaceobs.org]
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Stockmarkets plunging all over the world as the elites transforms all their investments to physical properties, as gold, silver and stocks up on food and DUMBs.
THEY know what is comming. Do you?

In Sweden, the stock has plunged over 12% the last four days and we are considered one of the most stabile economies in the world.

What do you think will happen as the elites makes their "hit and run" all at once?

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2011-08-05 warning from NASA about incomming CME!



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Prepare your popcorn, take out your cold soda, turn on CNN, and open [link to www.solarham.com] and repeatedly press F5.

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