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It appears to have been shot somwhere around 12-13 local time on August 5th in Auckland New Zealand, the position is somewhere around Saturn at that time according to Stellarium.
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I challenged the creator of this video to take another video,
and he did not come through.

Why should we believe this object is in space? It's moving
way too fast.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


no its not ...... the Earth revolves @ 1000 mph , you obviously have never operated a telescope before

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It appears to have been shot somwhere around 12-13 local time on August 5th in Auckland New Zealand, the position is somewhere around Saturn at that time according to Stellarium.
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its shot late afternoon , sun is setting
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Great thread OP! Thanks for sharing.
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It appears to have been shot somwhere around 12-13 local time on August 5th in Auckland New Zealand, the position is somewhere around Saturn at that time according to Stellarium.
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its shot late afternoon , sun is setting
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


its a jet. there have been dozens of these contrails in the

sun vids used by the nibiru hoaxers as support for their lies.
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Huge, hidden object in space...today on CNN

yt vid says nibiru but cnn reports about a brown dwarf

anyway watch yourself


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76

That is rather obviously about the Tyche Hypothesis.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
book
Four Jupiter masses would be a superjovian planet, not a brown dwarf.
Reaching for the sky makes you taller.

Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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Huge, hidden object in space...today on CNN

yt vid says nibiru but cnn reports about a brown dwarf

anyway watch yourself


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76

That is rather obviously about the Tyche Hypothesis.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
book
Four Jupiter masses would be a superjovian planet, not a brown dwarf.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

A superjovian planet is any planet larger than Jupiter. Many superjovian planets have been discovered outside Earth's solar system, in part because superjovian planets are easier to detect than smaller planets. While there is no hard dividing line between superjovian planets and brown dwarf stars, anything above a mass of 15 Jupiters would likely be classed as a star.

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Four Jupiter masses would be a superjovian planet, not a brown dwarf.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

A superjovian planet is any planet larger than Jupiter. Many superjovian planets have been discovered outside Earth's solar system, in part because superjovian planets are easier to detect than smaller planets. While there is no hard dividing line between superjovian planets and brown dwarf stars, anything above a mass of 15 Jupiters would likely be classed as a star.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$

I disagree.

So does the IUA.
Brown Dwarfs are not stars.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Where is the crazy horse and the singing swayer?
Packing their bug-out bag?

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It appears to have been shot somwhere around 12-13 local time on August 5th in Auckland New Zealand, the position is somewhere around Saturn at that time according to Stellarium.
 Quoting: highwic


its shot late afternoon , sun is setting
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


its a jet. there have been dozens of these contrails in the

sun vids used by the nibiru hoaxers as support for their lies.
 Quoting: highwic


it is not a jet, its exactly where comet Elenin is on Stellarium
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The visible rays from a black hole is the particles unable to reach speeds above the speed of light and thus never entering dimensions 4-6.

I also believe the angels to live in dimensions 7-9 and God living in dimension 10.

Everything accelerates exponentially through every trio of diemensions and that's why they say that 1000 years on earth is like one day in heaven (dimensions 7-9) Our soul is made out of particles much like the "wimps" and are vibrating at speeds far above the speed of light but are not able to free itself from the body until after death, due to laws of physics.

This is also what CERN is for, to accelerate particles so fast, that you get a glimpse of what's happening in the higher dimensions, even if they do not understand it themselves fully just yet. Using the same kind of technology studying black holes, you would actually be able to "see" them in infinitesonic wavelengths.

In dimension 10, where God lives, and also where the "god-particle" exists, time is infinite, as God is infinite.

Particles in that dimension has accelerated so fast that time stands still.

(1-3+ 4-6+ 7-9 +10 = 4) (with God) + (1-3+ 4-6+ 7+9 = 3) (without God) = 7 which is the holy number.
(1-3+ 4-6+ 7-9 = 3) (without God) + (1-3+ 4-6+ 7+9 = 3) (without God) = 6 times 3 equals 666, the number of the beast, a universe without God, which also could be concidered hell, since it would be a universe without love.
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really nice thought / hypothesis.. can it be proven mathematically??
or it has already, is it not called "the M theory"..
each dimension is very close to each other but ours cant see them, they can see us..
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The visible rays from a black hole is the particles unable to reach speeds above the speed of light and thus never entering dimensions 4-6.

I also believe the angels to live in dimensions 7-9 and God living in dimension 10.

Everything accelerates exponentially through every trio of diemensions and that's why they say that 1000 years on earth is like one day in heaven (dimensions 7-9) Our soul is made out of particles much like the "wimps" and are vibrating at speeds far above the speed of light but are not able to free itself from the body until after death, due to laws of physics.

This is also what CERN is for, to accelerate particles so fast, that you get a glimpse of what's happening in the higher dimensions, even if they do not understand it themselves fully just yet. Using the same kind of technology studying black holes, you would actually be able to "see" them in infinitesonic wavelengths.

In dimension 10, where God lives, and also where the "god-particle" exists, time is infinite, as God is infinite.

Particles in that dimension has accelerated so fast that time stands still.

(1-3+ 4-6+ 7-9 +10 = 4) (with God) + (1-3+ 4-6+ 7+9 = 3) (without God) = 7 which is the holy number.
(1-3+ 4-6+ 7-9 = 3) (without God) + (1-3+ 4-6+ 7+9 = 3) (without God) = 6 times 3 equals 666, the number of the beast, a universe without God, which also could be concidered hell, since it would be a universe without love.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


really nice thought / hypothesis.. can it be proven mathematically??
or it has already, is it not called "the M theory"..
each dimension is very close to each other but ours cant see them, they can see us..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990640


Great guess but in M-Theory you deal with the eleventh dimension and parallel universes (multiverses).

Personally I don't believe in an eleventh dimension and I believe the branes, strings and multiverses to exist in dimensions 7-9, accessable from dimension 10 (God).

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In dimensions 4-6 the speed of what we percieve as light would be 299 792 458 ^ 299 792 458 = x

In dimensions 7-9 the speed of what we perceive as light would be

x ^ x = y

In Gods realm it woud be y ^ infinite = 0

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[This Timeline is modified on April 07, 2011]

The timeline below tracks the movement of the ELEnin dwarf star in our solar system through 2011 using the NASA Jet Propulsion Laborator Data for their ELEnin Comet Psyop Thread: Comet ELEnin Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Brown Dwarf .

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

==============

[link to i29.photobucket.com]

Feb 20 Nibiru between Jupiter and Mars orbits. 2.48 AU from Earth.

March 4 Nibiru breaks through ecliptic plane for earth change symptoms to gradually increase. 2.261 AU from Earth.

March 11 Saturn, Nibiru, Earth, Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus are in alignment creating gravity trench for volcano/earthquake/tidal events to escalate. First Alignment. 2.1 AU from Earth.

May 11 Earth, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter are in alignment to create optimum conditions for seismic activity. [link to i29.photobucket.com]

June 27 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 1.789 AU from Earth.

[link to i29.photobucket.com]

July 7 Saturn, Nibiru and Sun are in alignment where Saturn should show signs of the dwarf star assuming polarity control. 1.74 AU from Earth. [link to i29.photobucket.com]

Aug 3 Nibiru crosses Earth orbit and Earth reaches Nibiru perigee orbit angle position. 1.489 AU from Earth.

Aug 21 Nibiru crosses Venus orbit. 1.198 AU from Earth.

Sept 11 Nibiru reaches perigee position at Mercury orbit. 0.708 AU from Earth.

Sept 19 Nibiru equidistant from Sun And Earth. 0.523 AU from Earth.

Sept 26 Nibiru passes between Sun and Earth for second alignment for anticipated Geological Pole Shift Event. Second Alignment. 0.396 AU from Earth.

[link to i29.photobucket.com]

Oct 2 Nibiru at Venus orbit. 0.316 AU from Earth.

Oct 17 Nibiru at Earth orbit and nearest position. 0.232 AU from Earth @ 21.57 million miles.

Nov 14 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 0.46 AU from Earth.

Nov 22 Nibiru, Earth and Sun alignment for Pole Shift Reversal Event. Third Alignment 0.58 AU from Earth.

Nibiru will finally be farther from the Earth than the Sun on Feb 29, 2012 marking 163 days from Sept. 19, 2011 that Nibiru is nearer our planet than the Sun.
======================

A dwarf star between Jupiter and Sun mass is approaching Earth from 11 03 56.4 +04 23' 37" [link to ubasti.cfa.harvard.edu] coordinates at 100,000 miles per hour covering 2.4 million miles each day from the Leo Constellation moving towards Orion's lower-left belt location and expected to break through the ecliptic plane on March 4, 2011. The dwarf star with multiple moons [link to i29.photobucket.com] is currently on an inbound trajectory between Jupiter orbit and Mars orbit.

The dwarf star being currently tracked by NASA as the Psyop Leonid ELEnin Comet that came into alignment with Sun and Earth at the first of three alignments on March 11, 2011; which is what all the false flag psyop disinformation is calling the pole shift. The dwarf star was still too far away (2.1 AU) to assume polarity control of the Earth from the Sun. This first alignment coincides with the February 27, 2010 ELE/Earth/Sun alignment that shifted earth aquifers and shifted Earth axis 3 inches with the 8.8 Chile Quake. The magnetic poles of our planet are not shifting, but are 'migrating' from the approach of the dwarf star mini solar system and the powerful magnetic field and polarity entering our inner solar system; which has been going on since 2004. The dynamic gravitational Tug-of-War between the Sun, Earth and Dwarf Star is enhanced by the near-alignment of seven planetary/solar bodies at this alignment shown in the first diagram above and demonstrated by a red alignment line depicting extreme gravitational force. These orbiting objects are connected to the Sun by magnetic portals [link to science.nasa.gov] , which the Earth passed through on 2/27/2010 and 3/11/2011 that connects the dwarf star to the Sun. The next major event for Nibiru is June 27, 2011, when the dwarf star crosses the Mars orbit. Then on July 7, 2011 the ELEnin dwarf star passes between the Sun and Saturn orbiting high above the ecliptic plane, which should tilt Saturn backwards to reveal some evidence of disturbance in Saturn's rings.

Diagram 2 starts at August 3, 2011 when the dwarf star crosses Earth orbit to then cross Venus orbit on August 21, 2011. Then we see the ELEnin dwarf star reach perigee position nearest the Sun on September 11, 2011 exactly ten years from the 9/11 attacks [link to www.usmessageboard.com] when the dwarf star begins the 3600-year orbit once again. September 26, 2011 marks the day of the next alignment, when Nibiru is only 0.396 AU from Earth (36.8 million miles); when the dwarf star is expected to gain polarity control over the Earth and cause the Geological Pole Shift. This marks the time when the Earth will bow to the dwarf star's awesome magnetic field/polarity, so the northern hemisphere experiences many days of darkness; while the southern hemisphere is drawn nearer the Sun. There are 14 days between the dwarf star reaching perigee position and this alignment with the Earth and Sun being equidistant to the dwarf star on the 7th day (Sept. 18).

October 2 is the day that the ELEnin dwarf star crosses Venus orbit again to begin trekking in the direction of Earth. Our planet is still being pulled towards the Sun, but by this time we are also being pulled forward into the massive dwarf star gravity well. Two weeks go by (Oct. 17) and the dwarf star crosses the Earth orbit line to pass directly in front of our planet at just 21.57 million miles away, which is the nearest point in our encounter. The dwarf star crosses the Mars orbit line on November 14, 2011 on way to the third alignment on November 22 where the Earth passes directly between the two once again like on March 11. This marks the time of the Geological Pole Shift Reversal that tips the Earth back to near the current position, as the Sun regains polarity control from the dwarf star racing away from the inner solar system.

Related videos:

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

Related links:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

[link to www.usmessageboard.com]

[link to dprogram.net]

GL,

Terral
 Quoting: Terral


Is this timeline correct or this one? [link to www.usmessageboard.com]

Tons of disinfo on this event, wonder why...
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[This Timeline is modified on April 07, 2011]

The timeline below tracks the movement of the ELEnin dwarf star in our solar system through 2011 using the NASA Jet Propulsion Laborator Data for their ELEnin Comet Psyop Thread: Comet ELEnin Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Brown Dwarf .

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

==============

[link to i29.photobucket.com]

Feb 20 Nibiru between Jupiter and Mars orbits. 2.48 AU from Earth.

March 4 Nibiru breaks through ecliptic plane for earth change symptoms to gradually increase. 2.261 AU from Earth.

March 11 Saturn, Nibiru, Earth, Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus are in alignment creating gravity trench for volcano/earthquake/tidal events to escalate. First Alignment. 2.1 AU from Earth.

May 11 Earth, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter are in alignment to create optimum conditions for seismic activity. [link to i29.photobucket.com]

June 27 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 1.789 AU from Earth.

[link to i29.photobucket.com]

July 7 Saturn, Nibiru and Sun are in alignment where Saturn should show signs of the dwarf star assuming polarity control. 1.74 AU from Earth. [link to i29.photobucket.com]

Aug 3 Nibiru crosses Earth orbit and Earth reaches Nibiru perigee orbit angle position. 1.489 AU from Earth.

Aug 21 Nibiru crosses Venus orbit. 1.198 AU from Earth.

Sept 11 Nibiru reaches perigee position at Mercury orbit. 0.708 AU from Earth.

Sept 19 Nibiru equidistant from Sun And Earth. 0.523 AU from Earth.

Sept 26 Nibiru passes between Sun and Earth for second alignment for anticipated Geological Pole Shift Event. Second Alignment. 0.396 AU from Earth.

[link to i29.photobucket.com]

Oct 2 Nibiru at Venus orbit. 0.316 AU from Earth.

Oct 17 Nibiru at Earth orbit and nearest position. 0.232 AU from Earth @ 21.57 million miles.

Nov 14 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 0.46 AU from Earth.

Nov 22 Nibiru, Earth and Sun alignment for Pole Shift Reversal Event. Third Alignment 0.58 AU from Earth.

Nibiru will finally be farther from the Earth than the Sun on Feb 29, 2012 marking 163 days from Sept. 19, 2011 that Nibiru is nearer our planet than the Sun.
======================

A dwarf star between Jupiter and Sun mass is approaching Earth from 11 03 56.4 +04 23' 37" [link to ubasti.cfa.harvard.edu] coordinates at 100,000 miles per hour covering 2.4 million miles each day from the Leo Constellation moving towards Orion's lower-left belt location and expected to break through the ecliptic plane on March 4, 2011. The dwarf star with multiple moons [link to i29.photobucket.com] is currently on an inbound trajectory between Jupiter orbit and Mars orbit.

The dwarf star being currently tracked by NASA as the Psyop Leonid ELEnin Comet that came into alignment with Sun and Earth at the first of three alignments on March 11, 2011; which is what all the false flag psyop disinformation is calling the pole shift. The dwarf star was still too far away (2.1 AU) to assume polarity control of the Earth from the Sun. This first alignment coincides with the February 27, 2010 ELE/Earth/Sun alignment that shifted earth aquifers and shifted Earth axis 3 inches with the 8.8 Chile Quake. The magnetic poles of our planet are not shifting, but are 'migrating' from the approach of the dwarf star mini solar system and the powerful magnetic field and polarity entering our inner solar system; which has been going on since 2004. The dynamic gravitational Tug-of-War between the Sun, Earth and Dwarf Star is enhanced by the near-alignment of seven planetary/solar bodies at this alignment shown in the first diagram above and demonstrated by a red alignment line depicting extreme gravitational force. These orbiting objects are connected to the Sun by magnetic portals [link to science.nasa.gov] , which the Earth passed through on 2/27/2010 and 3/11/2011 that connects the dwarf star to the Sun. The next major event for Nibiru is June 27, 2011, when the dwarf star crosses the Mars orbit. Then on July 7, 2011 the ELEnin dwarf star passes between the Sun and Saturn orbiting high above the ecliptic plane, which should tilt Saturn backwards to reveal some evidence of disturbance in Saturn's rings.

Diagram 2 starts at August 3, 2011 when the dwarf star crosses Earth orbit to then cross Venus orbit on August 21, 2011. Then we see the ELEnin dwarf star reach perigee position nearest the Sun on September 11, 2011 exactly ten years from the 9/11 attacks [link to www.usmessageboard.com] when the dwarf star begins the 3600-year orbit once again. September 26, 2011 marks the day of the next alignment, when Nibiru is only 0.396 AU from Earth (36.8 million miles); when the dwarf star is expected to gain polarity control over the Earth and cause the Geological Pole Shift. This marks the time when the Earth will bow to the dwarf star's awesome magnetic field/polarity, so the northern hemisphere experiences many days of darkness; while the southern hemisphere is drawn nearer the Sun. There are 14 days between the dwarf star reaching perigee position and this alignment with the Earth and Sun being equidistant to the dwarf star on the 7th day (Sept. 18).

October 2 is the day that the ELEnin dwarf star crosses Venus orbit again to begin trekking in the direction of Earth. Our planet is still being pulled towards the Sun, but by this time we are also being pulled forward into the massive dwarf star gravity well. Two weeks go by (Oct. 17) and the dwarf star crosses the Earth orbit line to pass directly in front of our planet at just 21.57 million miles away, which is the nearest point in our encounter. The dwarf star crosses the Mars orbit line on November 14, 2011 on way to the third alignment on November 22 where the Earth passes directly between the two once again like on March 11. This marks the time of the Geological Pole Shift Reversal that tips the Earth back to near the current position, as the Sun regains polarity control from the dwarf star racing away from the inner solar system.

Related videos:

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

Related links:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

[link to www.usmessageboard.com]

[link to dprogram.net]

GL,

Terral
 Quoting: Terral


Is this timeline correct or this one? [link to www.usmessageboard.com]

Tons of disinfo on this event, wonder why...
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Yeah which one is it? bump
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Is this timeline correct or this one? [link to www.usmessageboard.com]

Tons of disinfo on this event, wonder why...
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Yeah which one is it? bump
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just look at "last edited" date

u still can watch terrals videos on his youtube account to see where he actually posts since he left glp.
S4.V157,158 "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
S19.V88 to 93 "And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.You have done an atrocious thing.The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
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[link to www.liss.org] helioplots are down. Check it out.

The helioplots normally look like this; [link to chemtrailsnorthnz.files.wordpress.com]

Moved site: [link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]

Broken link: [link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]

Jpl changed data: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

And of course I meant 1 Astronomical Unit = 149 598 000 kilometers.

Hence the orbit has been changed to 299196 km further away from us.

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Repent NOW!!! Use the links below:

[link to www.creationtips.com]
[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[link to www.jesus-is-lord.com]
[link to www.heartlandbaptist.org]
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It's going to be super hilarious when all you "nibiru" idiots are standing around with your thumbs up your ass when nothing happens. You've fallen for a fairy tale!
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It's going to be super hilarious when all you "nibiru" idiots are standing around with your thumbs up your ass when nothing happens. You've fallen for a fairy tale!
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wimps will always prefer to deny than to face reality.

when the shtf, we will laugh at you when you run like a rabbit for a shelter

punks as you are countless in the world, in the past and in the future, you are the same kind of punk as those that denied doom Prophet Noah (puh) warned them of...while building his Arch to escape the so called doom, he was right and the punks all died.

so just you wait, wimp.

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S4.V157,158 "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
S19.V88 to 93 "And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.You have done an atrocious thing.The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
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tell us more
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hey did you remove from you tube or did they
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I believe that something is following Elenin, as I have believed ever since one of my first videos ever on youtube.
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Fine. I've got no problem with that.

Just know that when you post things on public forums the public reads them. And there are going to be certain members of the public who may disagree with you. Particularly if they assess what you've written and deem it to be....wrong.

I believe it to be any given celestial object or phenomena, not discovered by science yet.
 Quoting: H4LFß4CK$


Fine. Just know though, that when you make arguments ilke that...the debate can potentially kind of...end.

I mean....do you see where discussion becomes futile? It's an unfalsifiable claim.

You can claim the Thundercats are riding on jet skis behind Elenin because "science hasn't discovered they're not". You can kind of say anything you want.

Which can leave people wondering how (if at all) to respond.

Still, moving on.

Ranging from star types to bursts from distant super novas or closer black holes.
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These are all rather well-studied objects/phenomena.

I'm NOT saying there COULDN'T be some absolutely unprecedented, mind-bogglingly unexpected "thing" following Elenin which fits into one of the categories you've listed above.

I'd be all ears....if you just gave a bit more than what you've given. Because what you've given is basically...just a single sentence. The sentence I've quoted above.

I've actually read a lot about stars. I'm not a doctor or a scientist, but stars are one of my favorite things to read about in astronomy. If you were to give some kind of comprehensive idea/theory explaining this lethal star-like object following Elenin....I'd be all ears.

I can say though if something "was" following Elenin it wouldn't be a "distant" supernova because supernovae are....distant. And it wouldn't be a black hole because black holes...don't follow around comets. They'd have no reason to. Black holes are among the most-dense objects in nature. It'd swallow up a comet before it'd ever trail behind it, if anything.

Another theory of mine is that Elening might be accompanied by hughe ammounts of dark matter and what is, in fact affecting the solar system, and not the comet itself. I base that assumption on the fact that the comet is hyperbolic, comming from outside the solar system.
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Dark energy/dark matter is a tricky thing. It makes up 80-90% (allegedly) of everything that exists....yet we can't see it or detect it.

Well...we can "detect" it, but in very roundabout ways (such as in the motions of spiral galaxies and gravitational lensing, ect...).

But I'm not entirely sold at all on the "mainstream" idea of dark/energy/matter and I think it's going to be "modified" by future discoveries probably sooner than later.

BUT ANYWAY, in relation to what you wrote....I don't know. Maybe.

See- fine. You have these theories. Great. But...be comprehensive. It's one thing to just throw things out there ("I think whatever it is might be something not discovered by science yet"/"I think Elenin might be carrying with it dark energy/matter") it's something ELSE to back it up with....at least a little evidence.

And I'm not sure what you mean by Elenin comes from "outside" the Solar System....(?)

I haven't read anything about Elenin being an interstellar object. Most comets come from the Oort Clouds, which marks a sort of de facto "border" of the Solar System, but is not outside of it.

But yeah, I haven't read anything about that yet...

You can not in any scientifically accepted way prove that I am 100% wrong. There is allways the posibility of something missing to the picture.
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You're right.

But it's a futile point.

If you're expecting ANYTHING to EVER be 100% proven without a shred of doubt...it's never going to happen. There's always something "missing".

But there are degrees of evidence. And sometimes the evidence (though never 100%) is profound.

It's up to you I guess. If you want to not believe anything that isn't 100% airtight...that's your right.

But your "ideas" are subject to the same standard.

I also believe in multiverses and diverse quantum physics theories.
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Lots of people a lot smarter than me do also. I've read some. I think it's very interesting.

I think that it is you that is making a fool of yourself
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lol...

claiming that we today have all relevant information and understand everything about space and our existance in it.
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I've never said that.

Never said that. Never will.

I've actually advocated, in many ways, in many threads, the fact that so much in astronomy is as of yet undiscovered is what makes it SO interesting.

I've posted this before- check out any issue of any monthly astronomy magazine. It will be OVERFLOWING with articles about NEW discoveries. As well as articles raising unanswered QUESTIONS.

This is something I've said countless times on this site. You'd search for a very long time if you were trying to find a post of mine where I say we "have all relevant information and understand everything space and our existence in it."

I've never said that. Never will. Don't believe it. Never will. Never have.

What many of you "believers" can't seem to moderate apparently is this: just because there is lots we DON'T know (and there is lots) it doesn't mean there isn't much we DO.

There ARE aspects of astronomy that are VERY well studied.

Have been for centuries. A millenia.

The research is there. The studies are out there for your scrutiny.

The evidence is there. It's ALL there.

If it doesn't meet your personal standards....then fine.

But I've read a lot. And it makes sense to me.


If you were right, we could stop all space exploring projects today, because they would be a total waste of both time and money.
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lol...again, I've never said that.

One thing I will agree with you is, yes, anyone who DID think that way would be a fool.

Mankind would hence not evolve further, it is thanks to people like myself that are open minded that we continue to evolve and thanks to people like yourself, that we are not evolving fast enough.
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...I have no idea where you got this idea that I thought there was nothing "left to discover".

There's so much.

I really don't expect you to understand the above but I have at least given it my best try.
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lol....Where is this condescension coming from? What's so "difficult" to understand about what you wrote?

I'm not saying what you wrote was "dumb" or "nonsensical". It's just....Jesus, don't flatter yourself. It wasn't a "chore".

Did you know that Elenin is the first documented hyperbolic comet in the history of mankind and what are your thoughts on that?
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No, I had no idea. If it's true it's news to me (Elenin is not at the top of my daily "to-do list").... and it's totally interesting.

It's certainly probably not the first or the last.

Shit whizzes through the interstellar medium all the time. There are planets and brown dwarves and asteroids and even stars flung out from the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way blasting their way around out there, constantly.

If Elenin did not originate from the Oort Cloud...then I wonder where the hell it came from...? If what you said is true. It's interesting though. I'll go read up on it.

That's what I think though.

(I have to say I don't recall ever seeing the term "hyperbolic" in any of these contexts either....But then again I can't recall ever reading about any extrasolar comets either....I guess I'll read up...)
No one would be happier than me if we could remain in mutual respect of each other despite of diametrically different opinions on reality.
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Ditto.
If you promise to keep the insults to yourself, I promise to behave.
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Cool.
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Deal?
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Absolutely. Deal.
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Wow!


Every once in a while, something truly amazing happens on this playground.







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This is why I come here! This is what truth is all about so kudos to you both for having the balls to do this.

i won't push it & ask for a group hug, but seriously, this is big...
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tell us more
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hey H4LFß4CK$ why did you remove the above
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tell us more
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hey H4LFß4CK$ why did you remove the above
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Nothing to see here. Move on. hiding
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