All those who are interested in NESARA read this, and I mean the notorious bashers too: | |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I only point out that it is mainly those who see their wealth and power removed by NESARA that would try to block its progress. There are also those who for different reasons cannot yet accept that NESARA is real, and others who cannot grasp how such a vast undertaking can be brought to manifestation. The latter are not necessarily against the benefits of NESARA, but sometimes do not give their support because of the fear of disappointment if it were not true." |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Words mean nothing to certain personalities and so they cannot get the difference between benevolent and evil teachings. For them it´s just the way they talk self --------> hollow. These also the same who sinply cannot feel. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC17 you can be sure that this was a false St.Germain. Judge the words by your heart and consider that the dark side uses many channellers for their agenda. All I can say is that I completely trust Mike Quinsey. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I must address the recent claim that NESARA is a scam. As one of those who have been given charge of the setting up of NESARA and its benefits I must refute such claims that I see as part of the ongoing campaign to discredit it." The scammer promising it´s not a scam. Classic. God forbid people try to discredit a scam that sucks money and energy out of the gullible. "It was envisaged as the means to return to you those rights which we knew would gradually have been eroded by this time." No respect for free will and non-interference: teh callsign of self-serving entities. "Many of you are aware, that along with other Master’s I was present at the formation and signing of The Constitution" Masters? Jedi Masters? WTF? " and NESARA is an act by which those rights will be restored." Which rights are those? How deliciously vague! "You have been warned that much disinformation is being circulated, and it is finally up to you as to what you are prepared to believe." Yes, be prepared to believe messages posted on the internet without any evidence backing them whatsoever. "I only point out that it is mainly those who see their wealth and power removed by NESARA that would try to block its progress." You can´t block the progress of a non-existent work of fiction. "It was always known that the Illuminati would try hard to de-rail the procedures necessary to put the benefits into being." Yes, the Illuminati are always derailing the procedures to pass laws. That´s why no laws are ever introduced, voted on, or passed anymore. "As many of you are already aware, the extremes to which they will go have no boundaries even where human life is concerned." How charmingly ambiguous! "There are also those who for different reasons cannot yet accept that NESARA is real, and others who cannot grasp how such a vast undertaking can be brought to manifestation." Oh oh, that´s me! Something may be deemed ´real´ when there is evidence to support it. Otherwise it´s probably just a product of someone´s colorful imagination. "Michael has acquainted himself with various aspects of NESARA, and on my behalf is able to refer those who wish more detail to go to the Internet address [link to nesara.us] it is one of many excellent sites." PLEASE SEND US MONEY. "Much work has already been carried out to establish the framework within which NESARA can operate." More ambiguous fluff. "The benefits have been carefully explained and it is clear that it WILL restore your freedom, justice and sovereignty." Which benefits are those? Ignoring free will and non-interference? "NESARA will not only bring changes to the Government and the Financial World, but also a New Age of Enlightenment, and an Age of Peace." What about those people who don´t want changes, enlightenment, or peace? Oh that´s right, free will went out the window a while ago in this discourse. "The greatest changes will come in Banking and Monetary Reform, and this is the largest section within the NESARA Act. Debt release both on a personal and public level will do much to alleviate the hardships that many are experiencing." Debt release? This is laughable. The law of power: Once power is taken it is never relinquished voluntarily. Debt is a type of power companies hold over people, by which they make money. The banks will not give up their profits for charity, sorry. "The Prosperity Programs are overseen by me, and with the advent of First Contact there will be very quick developments in this area." Prosperity Programs? Sounds like social welfare where the government steals your money and gives it to someone else. FDR did enough damage with his social programs. Please no more. "[incredibly vague New Age fluff ...] This is a unique period, and all negative energies will be dissolved well before you enter the final phase of Ascension." Negative energies will not be magically dissolved, no matter how much wishful thinking you employ. "Dear Ones, think clearly about what you read and hear, and rely upon those sources that are considered to be proven as honest and reliable." I´ll be sure to avoid this source then. "I am both a Master, and a Man of your Earth of many adventures in recent times." Master of what? Why is this even being said other to imply a sense of awe and authority over the reader? I can´t even finish this. The rest of the message is so vague and ambiguous as to not even warrant a response. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I´m certainly not wealthy enough to want to discredit this but I am poor enough to see a pipe dream when I see one. This is like planning your retirement on winning the lottery. Even if it wasn´t a hoax, its to unbelievable to become reality. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reality is that regardless of the true fact that the Bible is NOT intact, has been messed with enormously, etc, etc, it remains the ONLY dependable truth. All through history, people have tried to deny it, but where DO we stand today? Does our present situation, these thousands of years later sound anything like this?...The Nations Judged: 1 "In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. [a] There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land. 3 They cast lots for my people and traded boys for prostitutes; they sold girls for wine that they might drink. 4 "Now what have you against me, O Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5 For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples. 6 You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland. 7 "See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away." The LORD has spoken. 9 Proclaim this among the nations: Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men draw near and attack. 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" 11 Come quickly, all you nations from every side, and assemble there. Bring down your warriors, O LORD! 12 "Let the nations be roused; let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, for there I will sit to judge all the nations on every side. 13 Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, trample the grapes, for the winepress is full and the vats overflow— so great is their wickedness!" 14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. 15 The sun and moon will be darkened, and the stars no longer shine. 16 The LORD will roar from Zion and thunder from Jerusalem; the earth and the sky will tremble. But the LORD will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Israel. Blessings for God´s People 17 "Then you will know that I, the LORD your God, dwell in Zion, my holy hill. Jerusalem will be holy; never again will foreigners invade her. 18 "In that day the mountains will drip new wine, and the hills will flow with milk; all the ravines of Judah will run with water. A fountain will flow out of the LORD´s house and will water the valley of acacias. 19 But Egypt will be desolate, Edom a desert waste, because of violence done to the people of Judah, in whose land they shed innocent blood. 20 Judah will be inhabited forever and Jerusalem through all generations. 21 Their bloodguilt, which I have not pardoned, I will pardon." The LORD dwells in Zion! |
nolomolistari 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ***I must address the recent claim that NESARA is a scam I must refute such claims*** Well, I would expect so. But other than ´talking about going to talk about´...you never do. I saw no refutation, just more of the usual speechafying... Refutations are point by point solid answers backed by verifiable facts that can be researched by others. This is simple -- even science is based on this.... Please don´t tell me your science is like your philosophy -- If that was so, there is no way that you´d be parked in orbit above our planet, much less your own... Science is not a consensus of what a group of people LIKE, or what ´resonates´ with them... Answers are not ´within´ you -- they are verifiable principles of external phenomenon that can be repeatedly demonstrated. You imply that you´re in the Creator God´s pocket, and move galaxies at whim.....and yet, you have a most miserable time trying to hook the internet up to your ships.... You have vast plans that balance the needs of multiple civilizations, and yet are totally stymied by our military system that Radar O´Riely had no trouble running circles around, on MASH.....(and if you think that was fiction, you´re wrong -- I was there, and I had Radar´s job at one point as battery clerk, the only one for the entire island....) You quote being at pivotal points in human history, and yet your part only seems to be as a bystander tourist...You imply that your presence was crucial..... Please tell me I´m wrong, and maybe drop some hints as to some of the details of the negotiations Franklin was having with the French...... Please tell me what cohort the centurion at the cross was assigned to before he drew Palestine duty....It would have been on his breastplate, and probably be all he would talk about in conversation.... Please give a simple outline of the economic system of the Doge in Italy....and who were the secret players? Should I go on? I don´t think so, I think it´s pointless.....The ´messages´ being ramblings concocted out of imagination......and severely limited by the channeler´s own data base and bias.... What can he do but claim unverifiable things? There´s no way I can go back in time and see if he was actually there....I have no way to actually check on what´s in orbit about our planet.....I have to rely on people´s honesty for confirmation of telepathy....I find no descriptions of the hierarchy as the GF describes it, so again must take his ´word´ for it.... So step up to the plate, drop the indoctrination speeches, and in plain speech refute your critics. Rise to the occasion, tell us of concrete things that can be verified by documents, or a phone call.....a photo, maybe....(yeah, rightttt.....thinking of Wio and her Photoshop...).... Names, dates, solid places and events that you manipulated as they transpired.....Surely you overlords don´t intend to keep us in the dark do you? After all, this is our planet and society.....Are we to have no say, or no inkling of what goes on ´behind the scenes´? You gots the power, put the equivalent of a galactic beercan on my doorstep..... |
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nolomolistari 12/08/2005 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 14410 -- ***PEACE ON EARTH*** Yes, there is peace in the hearts of some people on earth....But peace itself doesn´t reside here yet. ***NESARA ALLREADY DONE*** Yes it is, for all intents and purposes....they will continue to embellish...and add on more outlandish things just to keep interest alive... But the root premise is as done as it will ever be... ***NESARA ANNOUNCED NOW*** Yes, you´ve been ´announcing´ it....What you don´t seem to realize is that the whole thing is nothing but an ´announcement´....There was never anything beyond that... |